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  • #31
    Re: THE 80-0 BASEBALL SYSTEM

    Ease up Ned....I am a fan of your work and get what you are saying but just because other posters weigh in with opposite view points is no reason to run off.

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    • #32
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      i have gambled for a few years and have realized the difference between gambling and investing.when you find someone like ned it sure helps the learning curve speed up.there is no book out there that teaches experience.the trouble with this it is hard to find someone with experience to share.thanks ned and hope you continue to help those of us who want to learn!

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      • #33
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        Ned what the units won-lost in round 1? It might actually be more profitable to sit out the first game and only start the chase if the team loses in round 1
        That way the chase will at worst be 3 games deep, the ROI will be higher and the risk of loosing lower?
        NFLX 2009 record: 17-12-2
        CFL 2009 record: 2-0
        MLB 2009 record: not that pretty, but hey, football is on :-)

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by Ned View Post
          This is the reason I stay out of forums. The people that critisize are the most likely ones that are gamblers pure and simple, they are unteachable, I have won every single year at sports wagering, not a single year exception, but when you try to share some knowledge, it is best suited stuffed up under your cap, for those that made money, I left you with something to move forward, for those that just want to spray like a skunk, keep spraying, because the ears are no longer here. I wish you the best gentlemen!
          absolutely ridiculous.

          Ned is trying to help gamblers win. I am too. We are all in this together trying to find a way to win.

          Ned has an idea, I and some others disagree. For this we are called immature names like "bashers" and ned is complaining saying things like he is spending too much time on this. Correct there, the amount of time he should be spending suggesting people martingale public favorites who if anything are likely to be early overrated teams is ZERO.

          But the "hero" to the squares is the guy with the easy to follow system, touting results that do not matter gambling wise since we cannot retroactively bet the last 10 years and its all based on a tiny sample. I am not going to spend time pointing out all the flaws in this, the holes in the bucket are obvious to anyone with a clue. Squares will judge on whether it wins over a few games of this year anyway.

          But just very foolish to say someone is being the bad guy for suggesting people not martingale public favorites early in the season. How in the hell is that bad advice? unbelievable.

          I could hardly think of a WORSE way to bet baseball.

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          • #35
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            smitty. word.

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by joeybagadonuts View Post
              Ok, fair enough. I read back over it and understand the rationale, however, the flaw is the same as every trend system- it is backfitted. I could find plenty of threads that would hit at smiliar percentages. What has happened in the past has zero barring on the present nor the future. There in is the flaw of the system. The sample size in this case is also way too small and doesn't take into account off season changes to last season's play off teams. I wish anyone who follows the best. Just remember- each game is an independent event. They don't have memories and no team is ever "due" to win any game. Just my opinion.
              Definitely an informed opinion, and one to consider.
              ---may the odds be ever in your favor.

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              • #37
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                I'll leave you with one thought. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but isn't every bet ever made backfitted? You take into account what a teams strengths and weaknesses are, vs a given opponent and utilize the information, based on what they did in the past, and speculate how it applies to the present!

                QUOTE: The sample size in this case is also way too small and doesn't take into account off season changes to last season's play off teams

                The sample size is 80 games, how many do you suggest their need be. Do you create an opinion of an NBA game during an 82 game season? Isn't that too small a sample size?

                Do you create an opinion on an NFL team in a 16 game season, because through 15 games, that is 18.75% the sample size I am talking about here.

                QUOTE: I could find plenty of threads that would hit at smiliar percentages

                OK, you made a statement, please post many threads that hit 90% in a 2 game chase over 80 games, if you find the many you claim to have, I'll shut up, but I would bet my last dollar, you will find ZERO!!!!!

                The system is 80-0 to a 4 game stretch

                HERE IS WHAT I WROTE, but apparently you only chose to read and respond to what you read into it, ot what you read:

                I agree with your thoughts on "martingale", my first line of explanation attested to that.

                I agree with you wholeheartedly on playing something that doubles up going 4 deep, the risk is extremely high, no arguement.

                I will however suggest you respond to the following?

                What about the subset of playing a system that doubles up 1 time, and wins 90% of the time? Is that "martingale"?

                Please respond to that.

                Before you come in and bombard with thoughts, that are to be nice, not well thought out, if you have so many great systems, and you can find so many, I'll issue you a challenge. I'll put up whatever money you want to put up, HUGE, or tiny, 100 games, any kind of wager you want to make, straight bets, ATS, ML, teasers, any bets you wish, you make the rules, and after 100 bets whoever has the most units won, all bets worth 1 unit, the winner will donate the amount you choose to bet to the charity of his choice, and the moderators at EOG, if they are so inclined, will hold the money we send them for the wager in escrow til we each amass 100 wagers. If you want to come in here and spill your poison, your certainly free to do so, but if you want to back up the words you speak, then anytime, any place, anywhere, any type, your choice, 100 games, any amount you want, and I have no limit! I"M ALL IN!

                If you lose, I'll give you rematches, for as long as you choose. I have not a dime to profit, it all goes to charity, my profit will be showing you, that the words you type, have absolutely ZERO value or understanding of what you are talking about!

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                • #38
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                  ABOUT Backfitting:

                  Do you even understand what you said? Backfitting meaningless data such as the Vikings are 12-0 on Thursday, when it is 55-60 degrees, on the road, in January, is meaningless backfitted "noise".

                  Meaningful backfitting runs the world!

                  Your doctor uses it, when he examines something that is wrong with you, because he has 100s of cases worth of experiences that lead him to a diagnosis.

                  Weather computers are all backfitted with data of 850mb charts, and past storm behaviors, to create the "most likely" scenerio to occur from a storm forming.

                  The stockmarket is backfitted, to help predict the future bull or bear market based on the sever, not 80 events of similarity that occured before.

                  the Real Estate market is backfitted by interest rates, the economy, and what has happened under similar circumstances before.

                  BULLETIN:

                  EVERYTHING, EVERY VOCATION, with few exceptions, is backfitted with what has happened in the past.

                  Sports wagering is 100% backfitted! Your looking at teams, what they have done, strength, weakness. Why does the totals in NFL games go down when the weather report is for horrible game conditions? Because the past has indicated (at least many believe) that it will effect scoring!

                  BULLETIN:

                  No matter what your style of handicapping, your opinion is backfitted into what has happened before.

                  Those that learn how to use it most effectively, WIN, those that don't LOSE!!!

                  The object isn't to win 100%. Backfitting I agree 100% does not guarantee future results, absolutely no arguement there. What it does do, if learned how to use properly, and learn how to differentiate the "noise", the "anomolies", the "binomial distribution", from the crap, it helps you find what is most likely to occur, over what is least likely to occur.

                  Please explain to me how you handicap a game, and if you take anything into account from a past game, you have become a product of your own credo of calling backfitting eronious, and for most it is, but for those that are successful, they learn to find market inefficiencies, and win!

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                  • #39
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                    ned,

                    why dont you ignore these idiots. post the winners so we can all make some money and let these idiots fade you and lose their shirts. good luck and looking forward to your picks which have made me a nice sum over the last few years.

                    nydoc

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                    • #40
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                      there will be no more picks, best of luck to all!

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                      • #41
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                        Originally posted by Ned View Post
                        there will be no more picks, best of luck to all!
                        I am really sad to hear that. While you have every right to do as you wish, there are a great number of people on this board (myself included) who have enjoyed and profited from your systems.

                        Your method of sports investing and the rationale behind it have been very thought-provoking, and far more interesting than the average poster on this site.

                        To let a few idiots run you off is very frustrating to those of us who hold you in high regard.

                        I would humbly ask you to reconsider.

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by ouch View Post
                          I am really sad to hear that. While you have every right to do as you wish, there are a great number of people on this board (myself included) who have enjoyed and profited from your systems.

                          Your method of sports investing and the rationale behind it have been very thought-provoking, and far more interesting than the average poster on this site.

                          To let a few idiots run you off is very frustrating to those of us who hold you in high regard.

                          I would humbly ask you to reconsider.

                          I have the same request

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                          • #43
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                            Hogan just looked at this Ned..going to try starting tonight..guess I was lucky and missed Phill last night..but will double on them tomorrow.

                            Tonight we got

                            Cubs -115

                            Dodgers +110

                            Angels -125

                            W Sox are rained out

                            Rays /Red Sox are no play...do we play them in their second series..this was never answered?

                            Milw vs SF on Tuesday

                            Philly (double play) vs Atlanta on Tuesday

                            Here we go Ned

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by Hennessey View Post
                              I have the same request
                              Ditto.
                              ---may the odds be ever in your favor.

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by ouch View Post
                                I am really sad to hear that. While you have every right to do as you wish, there are a great number of people on this board (myself included) who have enjoyed and profited from your systems.

                                Your method of sports investing and the rationale behind it have been very thought-provoking, and far more interesting than the average poster on this site.

                                To let a few idiots run you off is very frustrating to those of us who hold you in high regard.

                                I would humbly ask you to reconsider.
                                I also have learned so much from you. I have not followed everything but it has helped me put something else in capping and learn some new things.. Would really be bummed that you leave here...

                                Y let one or two a-holes get under your skin, you have a large amount of fans/followers here who like what you bring to the table and appreciate it..

                                Don't really understand sometimes why people let one/two people run them off when there are many more people who appreciate and like posters on here...

                                So I ask that you reconsider also and forget about the bashers, they obviously have a different agenda and it is not winning...

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