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    Report: Penn State leaders, including ex-coach Joe Paterno, concealed JerrySandusky's activities to avoid bad publicity.

    Report: Most powerful men at Penn State failed to take steps to protect Sandusky victims, report author Louis Freeh says.

    Text of Joe Paterno's letter (delusional old man!) (move mouse over "text" for link)

    Here's is the official report of the Penn State Investigation (move mouse over Penn St for link)

  • #2
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    This is like a proverbial bomb dropping on this state. Another sad day in a year of sad days for Penn State.
    ---may the odds be ever in your favor.

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    • #3
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      Munson....do you think the PSU football program could get the death penalty as a result of this scandal?

      I'm not even sure what the attributes are for a program receiving the death penalty, but it would seem to me that this situation would fit.

      Sad day for those who have connections with PSU.

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      • #4
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        I don't think so, Bowler. Most of the people known to be involved are either dead, fired or in jail. Seems to me plenty of karmic punishment has been meted out already.
        ---may the odds be ever in your favor.

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        • #5
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          Other schools, especially elementary schools, should take a long, hard look at their athletic departments in light of the Penn State findings.

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          • #6
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            All that was right about Penn State not that long ago is practically down the toilet now...Joe Pa's legacy is down the drain....Penn State athletics will never be the same.....all the good Joe Paterno did is out the window....Sandusky needs to rot in prison...
            Everyone dies......but not everyone lives.....

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            • #7
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              Looks like Joe was apart of the conspiracy and cover up.

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              • #8
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                I was pleasantly surprised with this report. I really expected it to be a half assed effort at a cover up. As an outsider, it has seemed pretty obvious that alot of things were swept under the rug to protect the football program and coach, Im glad this report didnt insult our intelligence.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                  Other schools, especially elementary schools, should take a long, hard look at their athletic departments in light of the Penn State findings.
                  More pedophiles in boy scouts than athletics.

                  Creepy.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by railbird View Post
                    More pedophiles in boy scouts than athletics.

                    Creepy.
                    And don't forget the clergy.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                      And don't forget the clergy.
                      true

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by munson15 View Post
                        I don't think so, Bowler. Most of the people known to be involved are either dead, fired or in jail. Seems to me plenty of karmic punishment has been meted out already.
                        An assistant coach could be aware of a booster giving a car to a single player, and that team receives the death penalty. A head coach not only covers for a pedophile but provides his football program as an environment in which the predator can spin his web, and you think they don't deserve the death penalty..........this is the closest I've been to using an emoticon, the one that shoots himself in the head.
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by 2W2P2S View Post
                          An assistant coach could be aware of a booster giving a car to a single player, and that team receives the death penalty. A head coach not only covers for a pedophile but provides his football program as an environment in which the predator can spin his web, and you think they don't deserve the death penalty..........this is the closest I've been to using an emoticon, the one that shoots himself in the head.
                          There should never be football at PSU again. They had their chance. They failed worse than any program in the history of college athletics. This is not SMU. This is a million times worse. Let the athletes transfer. The students can concentrate on going to classes.

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                          • #14
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                            Absolute power corrupts. I wonder if the networks will put them on tv? Oh maybe just every week, a sad state of affairs and nobody gives a damn about any of the kids. Money, money, is all anyone cares about. I wish we could take them off the betting board, but that won't happen and i don't have the power but maybe stations could do the right thing and not book them!

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                            • #15
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                              Removing the statue of Paterno seems like the right thing to do.

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                              • #16
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                                If you were a Big 10 school, would you want them in your conference? As a Big East fan, I wouldnt want them anywhere near my conference. And I agree with you TF, the statue should come down.

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                                • #17
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                                  Yep...Would you send your son there???
                                  Not me..
                                  Team won't see a bowl game in the next fifty years.
                                  They should also knock out that statue of Paterno ASAP

                                  Originally posted by Viejo Dinosaur View Post
                                  All that was right about Penn State not that long ago is practically down the toilet now...Joe Pa's legacy is down the drain....Penn State athletics will never be the same.....all the good Joe Paterno did is out the window....Sandusky needs to rot in prison...

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                                  • #18
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                                    The only checks and balances involving the Penn State football program were checks the banks cashed and huge bank balances the administration coveted.

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                                    • #19
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                                      Originally posted by 2W2P2S View Post
                                      An assistant coach could be aware of a booster giving a car to a single player, and that team receives the death penalty. A head coach not only covers for a pedophile but provides his football program as an environment in which the predator can spin his web, and you think they don't deserve the death penalty..........this is the closest I've been to using an emoticon, the one that shoots himself in the head.
                                      I'll do it for you.

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                                      • #20
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                                        Florida St: FSU finds out students including non-football players were cheating on an on-line music exam. Bowden, when finding out about it, FSU self reports the violation to NCAA and suggests a list of penalties. NCAA decides self imposed penalties not harsh enough and HAMMERS FSU declaring this a "major violation" and makes Bowden forfeit all victories from 2006 and 2007 when FSU and Bowden was unknowingly using students cheating on the test in games.

                                        This causes Bowden to fall too far behind Paterno to ever catch in in the most coaching victories race.

                                        Penn St: I won't rehash or compare what they and Paterno did. So far, no NCAA penalties

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                                        • #21
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                                          I cant see the NCAA allowing Paterno to have the most wins in light of everything there.

                                          Nike has already annouced that they are taking Paternos name off the child care building (the irony is sad) at Nike's headquarters.

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                                          • #22
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                                            I believes that's what they call in psychology "sublimation" where one channels socially unacceptable behavior into acceptable behavior avenues .

                                            So child molestors become priests, pediatricians, scout leaders, PE coaches, etc. to be accepted by the community.

                                            The downside of this in 2012 is that the 99% of those who pursue these areas are perfectly well-intentioned, but may be regarded with a suspicious eye.

                                            "Hmmmm, I don't know about that guy...."

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                                            • #23
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                                              My sister in law is a 3rd generation PSU alumnus. Her family is shell shocked over this scandal. They want to put this behind them and move forward. PSU charges $2,000 annual seat license donation...we shall see if that continues. I suppose at the end of the day, come football game day, football will continue on at PSU, they will still get 100,000 people in the stands, etc. After all, isn't PSU football larger and matters more than life itself? (Being sarcastic)

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                                              • #24
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                                                It's just so disappointing that these men who had the power to do something didn't. I think the cover up and conspiracy are as disgusting as the crime. It's sickning to think how these individuals so nonchalantly took the seriousness of the offenses. It's disturbing to think 3 intelligent individuals (Spaniard, Curley and Paterno), could turn a blind eye and harbor a monster like this. It's just blows my mind.

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                                                • #25
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                                                  Why doesn't the government go after the clergy as strong as they went against Penn State football? Does the Pope have more pull than Paterno?
                                                  Everyone dies......but not everyone lives.....

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                                                  • #26
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                                                    Originally posted by Viejo Dinosaur View Post
                                                    Does the Pope have more pull than Paterno?
                                                    Well, yeah.

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                                                    • #27
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                                                      Wow I just spent like a half hour reading the report. It was worse than I even thought. The statue should absolutely be destroyed.
                                                      "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." -- Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (1841)

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                                                        Originally posted by IrishTim View Post
                                                        Wow I just spent like a half hour reading the report. It was worse than I even thought. The statue should absolutely be destroyed.
                                                        I couldn't finish it. Like the quote by Mackay.

                                                        Of all the things that I've read about the Sandusky thing, this is one of the best since it's by a former assistant football coach at Penn State who was also the victim of sexual abuse as a child.

                                                        Joe knew everything and it started before 1999.

                                                        http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/452834...lege_football/

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                                                          Buy the rumor sell the news?....
                                                          overmedicatedun... Thu, 07/12/2012 - 17:06 | 2611110

                                                          ....rumor has it sandusky was never jailed years ago because of "big game rigging with the bookies" he had the goods on the saintly paterno and co. paterno had millions but kept a low profile much like buffett. joe protected him to keep the lid on the things(mob money pay offs to pols & law) that would have come out.
                                                          From:
                                                          http://www.zerohedge.com/news/btfd-no-more#comments

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                                                          • #30
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                                                            I haven't read the report guys, so hold your fire. I was reacting to the question based on what I knew prior to today.
                                                            ---may the odds be ever in your favor.

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                                                            • #31
                                                              Re: Report Findings....."Penn State had "total disregard" for child sex abuse victims"

                                                              Originally posted by IrishTim View Post
                                                              Wow I just spent like a half hour reading the report. It was worse than I even thought. The statue should absolutely be destroyed.
                                                              You read 256 pages in a half hour? You really are a genius.

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                                                              • #32
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                                                                Originally posted by Timely Hero View Post
                                                                You read 256 pages in a half hour? You really are a genius.
                                                                "executive summary"

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                                                                • #33
                                                                  Re: Report Findings....."Penn State had "total disregard" for child sex abuse victims"

                                                                  No I didn't read the whole report and didn't mean to imply I did. I spent 30 minutes reading different sections. Think I got a pretty good picture and was disgusted.

                                                                  And I'm very pleased we have another ZH reader on the site. According to my laptop, it's my number 1 most visited site.
                                                                  "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." -- Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (1841)

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                                                                  • #34
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                                                                    Originally posted by IrishTim View Post
                                                                    No I didn't read the whole report and didn't mean to imply I did. I spent 30 minutes reading different sections. Think I got a pretty good picture and was disgusted.
                                                                    haha obviously Tim. I was just joking. It took me nearly all day to read the whole thing - on and off at work. It's disturbing and the type of conspiracy type cover up that everyone fears money causes. Janitors were fearing for their jobs and safety if they exposed Sandusky - that looks pretty bad on the University. That being said, everyone who thinks Joe Pa is just as bad as Sandusky in this is borderline retarded.

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                                                                    • #35
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                                                                      Its a very fine line TH

                                                                      A lot of times victims grow up and are as upset with the people who knew who didnt do anything than the people who caused the act.

                                                                      They view the person as mental but dont understand why people in their right mind would allow them to be tortured.

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                                                                      • #36
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                                                                        Originally posted by Timetopay View Post
                                                                        Its a very fine line TH

                                                                        A lot of times victims grow up and are as upset with the people who knew who didnt do anything than the people who caused the act.

                                                                        They view the person as mental but dont understand why people in their right mind would allow them to be tortured.
                                                                        OK, but that doesn't mean the enabler is as bad as the actual person who committed the crime. To say otherwise is laughable and embarrassing. Joe Paterno's goal wasn't to hurt children and farm kids for Sandusky to rape - his goal was selfish, but it wasn't to hurt children. That was a result of his selfish attitude and the fact that he became an enabler. As I said in the other thread, it's very simply logic.

                                                                        The enabler does not exist without the rapist (or whatever crime was committed). The rapist still exists without the enabler. To say the two are equal is an asinine statement.

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                                                                        • #37
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                                                                          Originally posted by Viejo Dinosaur View Post
                                                                          Why doesn't the government go after the clergy as strong as they went against Penn State football? Does the Pope have more pull than Paterno?
                                                                          As I recall in the documentary "deliver us from evil", the Catholic Church has spent over 0ne billion dollars in "settlements" with victims and or families of victims of clergy child abuse.

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                                                                          • #38
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                                                                            Irish Tim...If I was to believe other people, you would think that Notre Dame should be shut down because of acts perpetrated by priests and nuns....seems to me that people are taking it out on others and not the other way around...you cannot deny the good that Joe Paterno did during his lifetime...because of the magnitude of the program and the man itself, Joe Paterno's name is mud and whatever good he did is washed down the drain...if you go after Joe Pa, you must go after the Catholic Religion and its congregation...
                                                                            Everyone dies......but not everyone lives.....

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                                                                            • #39
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                                                                              This has always peaked my curiosity:


                                                                              "It is strange that Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar never prosecuted
                                                                              Jerry Sandusky on child-rape charges 13 years ago,
                                                                              some speculate, because Gricar was known for being fiercely independent and hard on crime.

                                                                              But it is even stranger that we cannot ask Gricar why Sandusky was not put behind bars, because the tough-as-nails district attorney disappeared in 2005. And though he was declared dead July of this year, his body has never been found."








                                                                              The art of learning is learning who to ignore ~LeAnn Rimes

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                                                                              • #40
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                                                                                It makes me sick reading these old threads and can't believe there are people that actually still believe JOE and PSU were involved in a cover up ( of course the second mile must have been In it too)

                                                                                Well, I guees here is the fairy tail story you must belive

                                                                                Enjoy


                                                                                It's impossible to read this without just laughing out loud

                                                                                Funny,....... but in a pathetic , sorta way

                                                                                ( I'm sure most of you wont read it, but will dig in, regarding your attacks )

                                                                                Hasn't enough time past to put emotions aside and deal with the facts?

                                                                                Cover up ??? Seriously ??
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