Jojo-Rex
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Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
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The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
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rainbow
EOG Master
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
IF THEY ARE NOT THIEVES, WHAT ARE THEY? WHO KNOWS IF THIS PLAYER REALLY GOT PAID, REAL SIMPLE THEY SEND SOMEONE ON THE FORUM TO SAY THEY GOT PAID, YOU ARE EITHER YOUNG IN THIS BUSINES OR YOU ARE JUST NAIVE....
Jojo-Rex
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Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Sports Interaction= They Fucken robbed me of $400 last year on that boxing match on HBO that the scorecards were originally mis-counted..First it was ruled a draw..Minutes later the decision was given to the favorite on the ruling the scorecards were mis-counted...Well of the 7 SBs I bet the fight, 6 honored the CORRECT ruling..Damn even BOS and Gibralter paid me..Well because a draw was in their best interest..SI stuck to the draw..For this i tell hem-GO FUCK YOURSELVES BASTARDS..
Aside from those shenanigans..SI has always paid me in their usual 2-3 day manner..AND I STILL PLAY THEIR..-Jojo
Sports Interaction= They Fucken robbed me of $400 last year on that boxing match on HBO that the scorecards were originally mis-counted..First it was ruled a draw..Minutes later the decision was given to the favorite on the ruling the scorecards were mis-counted...Well of the 7 SBs I bet the fight, 6 honored the CORRECT ruling..Damn even BOS and Gibralter paid me..Well because a draw was in their best interest..SI stuck to the draw..For this i tell hem-GO FUCK YOURSELVES BASTARDS..
Aside from those shenanigans..SI has always paid me in their usual 2-3 day manner..AND I STILL PLAY THEIR..-Jojo
Jojo-Rex
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Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
How does a SB know a guys poster name on forums most of the time:+clueless ..I respect your post and know you are one of the most informed in this business..But I dont think this is the case
TOW
EOG Enthusiast
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
tsk tsk tsk JC....same old, same old
Next year at this time you'll be again wasting your valuable time starting threads on BetUS.com and Royal.....who will probably be around, BetUS.com giving you ammos because they'll shut down their processing dept for Christmas and Royal because....Tej is Tej.
One thing might change a year from now though...your good buddy Kaye McDonald will probably have some white hair, and she might have become the fall guy (gal in her case) because of Betonsports....
Damn Jay, you know everyone there, from Aziz to Kaye....why don't you waste a TENTH of the valuable time you throw after the Rizzos and Tej to make the REAL CROOKS and stiffs of Antigua PAY.... the Alladin Gold victims and tell your Antiguan buddies to to QUIT covering up for BETonSPORTS with their useless restraining order? Ya know, ain't gonna work...
Your valuable time would be better spent, trust me on this...and please...spare me that since Aziz and Kaye are crooks but friends they deserve immunity from your forum boutades....
Happy New year my Friend. I'm off to Geneva Monday...will be interesting, very interesting....
TOW
tsk tsk tsk JC....same old, same old
Next year at this time you'll be again wasting your valuable time starting threads on BetUS.com and Royal.....who will probably be around, BetUS.com giving you ammos because they'll shut down their processing dept for Christmas and Royal because....Tej is Tej.
One thing might change a year from now though...your good buddy Kaye McDonald will probably have some white hair, and she might have become the fall guy (gal in her case) because of Betonsports....
Damn Jay, you know everyone there, from Aziz to Kaye....why don't you waste a TENTH of the valuable time you throw after the Rizzos and Tej to make the REAL CROOKS and stiffs of Antigua PAY.... the Alladin Gold victims and tell your Antiguan buddies to to QUIT covering up for BETonSPORTS with their useless restraining order? Ya know, ain't gonna work...
Your valuable time would be better spent, trust me on this...and please...spare me that since Aziz and Kaye are crooks but friends they deserve immunity from your forum boutades....
Happy New year my Friend. I'm off to Geneva Monday...will be interesting, very interesting....
TOW
JC
EOG Veteran
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Roberto,
I guess your opinion of BetUS changed after they started paying you money and buying your endorsement.
Posted by Roberto (TOW) at the Rx in Novemer of 2005:
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TOW
No gossip, just news
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 749
BetUS should be avoided like a plague. Period.
I'm glad MFG finally got his money, but he was once again forced into a "deal" under extreme duress, only because Joey "weasel" Rizzo didn't want to admit he tried to scam him by continuing to increase his rollover requirements three years ago.
Mike Foreman is certainly doing his best, but Rizzo still holds the stick. he screwed players once, he certainly would do it again should the occasion present itself.
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Something change since then Roberto, other than them paying you money???
You held similar positions on Bet Royal and Tej until they started bailing out your Crookie Bookies and started paying you advertising money.
You are not only what is the worst about this industry, you are the most transparent.
Roberto,
I guess your opinion of BetUS changed after they started paying you money and buying your endorsement.
Posted by Roberto (TOW) at the Rx in Novemer of 2005:
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BETUS - Another No Pay - Online Sportsbooks & Sports Picks at Therx.com Offshore Betting Forum
TOW
No gossip, just news
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 749
BetUS should be avoided like a plague. Period.
I'm glad MFG finally got his money, but he was once again forced into a "deal" under extreme duress, only because Joey "weasel" Rizzo didn't want to admit he tried to scam him by continuing to increase his rollover requirements three years ago.
Mike Foreman is certainly doing his best, but Rizzo still holds the stick. he screwed players once, he certainly would do it again should the occasion present itself.
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Something change since then Roberto, other than them paying you money???
You held similar positions on Bet Royal and Tej until they started bailing out your Crookie Bookies and started paying you advertising money.
You are not only what is the worst about this industry, you are the most transparent.
SBR_John
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Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Good post. I did mention they will never be safe as long as Tej owns them.
Its a dam shame that these serial scammers find places and sites willing to let them lure in new victims. They should be isolated and new players constantly warned.
I'd trust Tej way ahead of the crooks at BetUS who by all accounts are in the middle of taking a standing 8 count. And even one poster in this thread called Jay Cohen the boy who cried wolf! Progress in this industry seems like its 2 steps forward and a step and a half back.
Good post. I did mention they will never be safe as long as Tej owns them.
Its a dam shame that these serial scammers find places and sites willing to let them lure in new victims. They should be isolated and new players constantly warned.
I'd trust Tej way ahead of the crooks at BetUS who by all accounts are in the middle of taking a standing 8 count. And even one poster in this thread called Jay Cohen the boy who cried wolf! Progress in this industry seems like its 2 steps forward and a step and a half back.
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
We're not arguing semantics; you made the accusation that BetUs was stealing; I simply corrected you; no semantic argument involved, by definition, it is not stealing. A little boy repeatedly crying wolf does not make a wolf appear!
And your analogy is incorrect; BetUs didn't steal Mr. Smith's wallet; Mr. Smith voluntarily sent his money to BetUs; BetUs informed Mr. Smith that he would not be able to make withdrawls of his money for the period between the holidays but that it would be safe until he could withdraw it on Jan. 3rd. BetUs sent Mr. Smith his money just like they promised. I can not only defend BetUs, but I can commend them on doing exactly what they promised to do.
It takes a big man to apologize when he is proven wrong...I did not expect an apology from the little boy who cried wolf!
We're not arguing semantics; you made the accusation that BetUs was stealing; I simply corrected you; no semantic argument involved, by definition, it is not stealing. A little boy repeatedly crying wolf does not make a wolf appear!
And your analogy is incorrect; BetUs didn't steal Mr. Smith's wallet; Mr. Smith voluntarily sent his money to BetUs; BetUs informed Mr. Smith that he would not be able to make withdrawls of his money for the period between the holidays but that it would be safe until he could withdraw it on Jan. 3rd. BetUs sent Mr. Smith his money just like they promised. I can not only defend BetUs, but I can commend them on doing exactly what they promised to do.
It takes a big man to apologize when he is proven wrong...I did not expect an apology from the little boy who cried wolf!
BigDaddy
EOG Master
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
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i called betus during the holidays like on the 27th and said i was interested in betting some bowl games maybe sending a deposit i asked if i got lucky and won today could i withdraw my winnings the next day the customer service rep said sure as long as you dont accept any bonuses on your deposit i said thanks i will think about it
so they didint seem to mention i would have to wait a week to get paid? do you consider that false information to a customer
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
i called betus during the holidays like on the 27th and said i was interested in betting some bowl games maybe sending a deposit i asked if i got lucky and won today could i withdraw my winnings the next day the customer service rep said sure as long as you dont accept any bonuses on your deposit i said thanks i will think about it
so they didint seem to mention i would have to wait a week to get paid? do you consider that false information to a customer
Jojo-Rex
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Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
This thread is entertaining and informative..Thanks Guys
IN MY HAND I HOLD- A DVD I got in the mail TODAY from BETUS.."THE MAKING OF THE SWIMSUIT CALENDER..I gotta admit- I`ll give er a looksee:houra
This thread is entertaining and informative..Thanks Guys
IN MY HAND I HOLD- A DVD I got in the mail TODAY from BETUS.."THE MAKING OF THE SWIMSUIT CALENDER..I gotta admit- I`ll give er a looksee:houra
TOW
EOG Enthusiast
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
tsk tsk tsk Jay....I was expecting something better than this from you....
Let me tell you this.... and lets start with BetUS.com.
At the time I made that post I had just missed closure on the MFG deal. After that post Mike got slightly upset but still went thru and fixed the wrong to MFG's consent and satisfaction.
Think about it Jay....you guys barked for three years at the moon and in less than a month the "cancer of the industry" contributed to get it resolved.
sometime went by and we then met in cr.... I was there, Ken was there, the dude from sbr was there.
we jointly visited the place, saw that things were changing and all came to our own conclusions.
Two months after that meeting I took them onboard as sponsors. With the exception of a couple of very old cases who found closure this year the only one chopping their balls has been..... JC :houra
Now Royal. Lots of people talk about Royal and its current ownership but hardly anyone knows them better than I do.
They have done their good deed of mistakes and have been exposed because of them.
In April they agreed to work within industry standards and have been doing so since. I took some ad deal from them in September, few months after their initial committment and after having verified they were abiding to it.
Meanwhile the only one constantly chopping their nuts has been .... JC :houra
Now back to us. Even the dude from sbr agrees to the fact that only idiots never change their opinion, blinded by their own agendas and unable to appreciate changes...:cheers
To be honest Jay, I don't pretend to be a Saint nor ever claimed to be one.
But protecting Antigua and omitting their misdoings like you do makes you no better than anyone in the biz, certainly not the White Knight you used to be.
Cheers.
tsk tsk tsk Jay....I was expecting something better than this from you....
Let me tell you this.... and lets start with BetUS.com.
At the time I made that post I had just missed closure on the MFG deal. After that post Mike got slightly upset but still went thru and fixed the wrong to MFG's consent and satisfaction.
Think about it Jay....you guys barked for three years at the moon and in less than a month the "cancer of the industry" contributed to get it resolved.
sometime went by and we then met in cr.... I was there, Ken was there, the dude from sbr was there.
we jointly visited the place, saw that things were changing and all came to our own conclusions.
Two months after that meeting I took them onboard as sponsors. With the exception of a couple of very old cases who found closure this year the only one chopping their balls has been..... JC :houra
Now Royal. Lots of people talk about Royal and its current ownership but hardly anyone knows them better than I do.
They have done their good deed of mistakes and have been exposed because of them.
In April they agreed to work within industry standards and have been doing so since. I took some ad deal from them in September, few months after their initial committment and after having verified they were abiding to it.
Meanwhile the only one constantly chopping their nuts has been .... JC :houra
Now back to us. Even the dude from sbr agrees to the fact that only idiots never change their opinion, blinded by their own agendas and unable to appreciate changes...:cheers
To be honest Jay, I don't pretend to be a Saint nor ever claimed to be one.
But protecting Antigua and omitting their misdoings like you do makes you no better than anyone in the biz, certainly not the White Knight you used to be.
Cheers.
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
My biggest problem with JC has been the fact that he constantly points fingers at others yet if he was really out for players, why doesn't he take care of the stuff in his own backyard? Exactly the same sediment TOW has.
In regards to SBR's statement:
"Its a dam shame that these serial scammers find places and sites willing to let them lure in new victims."
You can call websites out for taking ad dollars from BetUS and Royal, but you took ad money from BoS. This in and of itself is not so bad, but the fact that you deceived everyone about that fact makes you worse than the people you are bitching about taking ad dollars from Royal and BetUS.
My biggest problem with JC has been the fact that he constantly points fingers at others yet if he was really out for players, why doesn't he take care of the stuff in his own backyard? Exactly the same sediment TOW has.
In regards to SBR's statement:
"Its a dam shame that these serial scammers find places and sites willing to let them lure in new victims."
You can call websites out for taking ad dollars from BetUS and Royal, but you took ad money from BoS. This in and of itself is not so bad, but the fact that you deceived everyone about that fact makes you worse than the people you are bitching about taking ad dollars from Royal and BetUS.
JC
EOG Veteran
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Roberto,
Assuming Royal does everything right now, which I don't believe, but assuming they do. How do you justify supporting a place that was finaced with stolen money from prior operations and all of the money is still controlled by the same said thief, Tej Kohli?
Second, do you find BetUS's latest shenanigan of closing the withdrawal window but not the deposit window for two weeks acceptable behavior? (And not pblicly notifying anyone until they requested a withdrawal.)
Roberto,
Assuming Royal does everything right now, which I don't believe, but assuming they do. How do you justify supporting a place that was finaced with stolen money from prior operations and all of the money is still controlled by the same said thief, Tej Kohli?
Second, do you find BetUS's latest shenanigan of closing the withdrawal window but not the deposit window for two weeks acceptable behavior? (And not pblicly notifying anyone until they requested a withdrawal.)
SBR_John
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Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Makes a worse? We were offering to pay up $10,000 to pay the legal fees of the victims that BOS was stealing from before they went belly-up. We rated them at a D- and thats what you call "ad money"? I have a letter from Clive Archer threating to sue us which we responded to bring it on. Is that what you call promoting them? LOL. We get paid when anyone uses our site to join a book but we call them like we see them and we called BOS crooks and rated them a nice D-.
Makes a worse? We were offering to pay up $10,000 to pay the legal fees of the victims that BOS was stealing from before they went belly-up. We rated them at a D- and thats what you call "ad money"? I have a letter from Clive Archer threating to sue us which we responded to bring it on. Is that what you call promoting them? LOL. We get paid when anyone uses our site to join a book but we call them like we see them and we called BOS crooks and rated them a nice D-.
JC
EOG Veteran
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Please do a search here and at other sites. You will see I have done more than my share of calling out the crooks at Alladin's Gold and BOS.
Please do a search here and at other sites. You will see I have done more than my share of calling out the crooks at Alladin's Gold and BOS.
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Yes, of course.
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Yes, of course.
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Johnny boy. Give it up. You earned money off them as an affiliate. A partner. That is my point. You offered up 10k in legal bills yet you earned much more off them over the years.
If you truly cared about being a watchdog, you would have never had an affiliate deal in place with BoS. Now would you?
Johnny boy. Give it up. You earned money off them as an affiliate. A partner. That is my point. You offered up 10k in legal bills yet you earned much more off them over the years.
If you truly cared about being a watchdog, you would have never had an affiliate deal in place with BoS. Now would you?
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
If anyone could help with Antigua it is you Jay. So before you start "calling out" other operations, try doing something in your own back yard. Otherwise the license WSEX has from the rock it resides on is WORTHLESS!
If anyone could help with Antigua it is you Jay. So before you start "calling out" other operations, try doing something in your own back yard. Otherwise the license WSEX has from the rock it resides on is WORTHLESS!
TOW
EOG Enthusiast
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Good question Jay.
Lets start with Royal.
As you may be aware, or maybe you are not, the biggest cash cow of the Royal group is their casinos.
As far as the past goes, the pioneer days of Tej in the industry, yes he has made some serious mistakes but he also got wronged by others. Not that doing wrong and being wronged offset each other, but its always good to remain objective.
I've known the man since mid 2003. He has had more than one opprtunity of running away with the purse. He hasn't. Is that a sign of redemption? Maybe.
After all everyone has made mistakes in his or her life. Some have made them bigger, some smaller. Normally speaking an individual should be evaluated on his mistakes AND his following actions.
I believe everyone here, especially the long time posters, concurs that despite being trashed (and most of the times rightly so) Royal has been paying out (sometime slow paying) for the past three years.
Does that make them the ideal out for a gambler? probably not, but we've seen worse, while Tej kept paying....
BetUS - some books used to stop processing over the All Stars Break, others slowed down for a few days. As long as customers are kept informed and are aware of the suspension its fine. If not its certainly not correct.
Good question Jay.
Lets start with Royal.
As you may be aware, or maybe you are not, the biggest cash cow of the Royal group is their casinos.
As far as the past goes, the pioneer days of Tej in the industry, yes he has made some serious mistakes but he also got wronged by others. Not that doing wrong and being wronged offset each other, but its always good to remain objective.
I've known the man since mid 2003. He has had more than one opprtunity of running away with the purse. He hasn't. Is that a sign of redemption? Maybe.
After all everyone has made mistakes in his or her life. Some have made them bigger, some smaller. Normally speaking an individual should be evaluated on his mistakes AND his following actions.
I believe everyone here, especially the long time posters, concurs that despite being trashed (and most of the times rightly so) Royal has been paying out (sometime slow paying) for the past three years.
Does that make them the ideal out for a gambler? probably not, but we've seen worse, while Tej kept paying....
BetUS - some books used to stop processing over the All Stars Break, others slowed down for a few days. As long as customers are kept informed and are aware of the suspension its fine. If not its certainly not correct.
rainbow
EOG Master
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
THE REASON I DONT RESPECT BETUS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY OWE TWO PEOPLE I KNOW REAL WELL AND THEY HAVE BEEN OWEING IT FOR QUITE SOMETIME, BUT AS FAR AS A BOOK GETTING SHORT OF MONEY, I SEEN A MANY IN MY LIFE THAT GOT SHORT AND SOME OF THEM ARE ON THE DONBEST, I WILL NOT MENTION WHO THE BOOKS ARE, THAT?S ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS,
SOME BAD BOOKS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TURN IT AROUND FOR THE BEST, I DONT THINK JC KNOWS THAT, BUT ITS ALL TRUE I?VE SEEN BOOKS GO COMPLETLY BROKE AND THEM SAME BOOKS HAVE AS GOOD AS NAME IN THE WHOLE INDUSTRY, TRUST ME IT DOES HAPPEN, JC YOU WOULD BE SURPRIZED THAT SOME OF THE BOOKS ON THE DONBEST SCREEN HAS BEEN BROKE AND REBOUNDED, I JUST CAN?T NAME THEM, BUT ITS THE TRUTH...
THE REASON I DONT RESPECT BETUS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY OWE TWO PEOPLE I KNOW REAL WELL AND THEY HAVE BEEN OWEING IT FOR QUITE SOMETIME, BUT AS FAR AS A BOOK GETTING SHORT OF MONEY, I SEEN A MANY IN MY LIFE THAT GOT SHORT AND SOME OF THEM ARE ON THE DONBEST, I WILL NOT MENTION WHO THE BOOKS ARE, THAT?S ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS,
SOME BAD BOOKS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TURN IT AROUND FOR THE BEST, I DONT THINK JC KNOWS THAT, BUT ITS ALL TRUE I?VE SEEN BOOKS GO COMPLETLY BROKE AND THEM SAME BOOKS HAVE AS GOOD AS NAME IN THE WHOLE INDUSTRY, TRUST ME IT DOES HAPPEN, JC YOU WOULD BE SURPRIZED THAT SOME OF THE BOOKS ON THE DONBEST SCREEN HAS BEEN BROKE AND REBOUNDED, I JUST CAN?T NAME THEM, BUT ITS THE TRUTH...
SBR_John
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Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Its guys like Inside Guy, TOW and theRx who claimed all along that BOS was a perfect 10 or a Platinum book and that hurt the industry and destroyed so many players bankroll. Every one of them knew BOS was stealing money. The cases were right here on the forums.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />
Now we have BetUS in play and the same guys are back trying to backstab JC and the others trying to warn players. Look how they try to change the subject or dredge up something unrelated. Who are these guys looking out for anyway?
Its really the never ending story of greed, lies and deception by those on the take.
Its guys like Inside Guy, TOW and theRx who claimed all along that BOS was a perfect 10 or a Platinum book and that hurt the industry and destroyed so many players bankroll. Every one of them knew BOS was stealing money. The cases were right here on the forums.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
fficeffice" />Now we have BetUS in play and the same guys are back trying to backstab JC and the others trying to warn players. Look how they try to change the subject or dredge up something unrelated. Who are these guys looking out for anyway?
Its really the never ending story of greed, lies and deception by those on the take.
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
You should add yourself to the list Johnny. You took AD MONEY from BoS too!
Also, you use to LIE and DECEIVE on your website by saying SBR did not accept ads from sportsbooks. Give it a rest.
My point of bringing up the past about you is to simply point out to the rest of the forum community here at EOG is that you are one of the biggest hypocrites on the web. You are the pot calling the kettle black.
You should add yourself to the list Johnny. You took AD MONEY from BoS too!
Also, you use to LIE and DECEIVE on your website by saying SBR did not accept ads from sportsbooks. Give it a rest.
My point of bringing up the past about you is to simply point out to the rest of the forum community here at EOG is that you are one of the biggest hypocrites on the web. You are the pot calling the kettle black.
TOW
EOG Enthusiast
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Jay,
To be honest I'm unaware of such event, which, generally speaking and as you well know, is unfortunately quite common practice in the industry.
sbr dude, I'll invest 3 of the 60 minutes of time I allocated towards interaction with you for 2007.
You, Mr., are taking money from an operation that is involved in loan sharking, money laundering and other criminal activities.
You, Mr, know who I am talking about, yes, the same buddy that wanted to kill me at the CRIS fights. but I guess it don't matter, since they have to "pay for the traffic you send them."
It doesn't matter if they are murderers as long as they pay you, right sbr dude?
Now on BetUS....could the reason of your anger be that they CATEGORICALLY refuse to pay your ransom? Yeah, I figure that could be the reason, or probably one of the two main ones.
As far as backstabbing goes...realx dude...the entire industry learned the practice from you.
Wish you a happy and prosperous 2007.
Cheers.
Jay,
To be honest I'm unaware of such event, which, generally speaking and as you well know, is unfortunately quite common practice in the industry.
sbr dude, I'll invest 3 of the 60 minutes of time I allocated towards interaction with you for 2007.
You, Mr., are taking money from an operation that is involved in loan sharking, money laundering and other criminal activities.
You, Mr, know who I am talking about, yes, the same buddy that wanted to kill me at the CRIS fights. but I guess it don't matter, since they have to "pay for the traffic you send them."
It doesn't matter if they are murderers as long as they pay you, right sbr dude?
Now on BetUS....could the reason of your anger be that they CATEGORICALLY refuse to pay your ransom? Yeah, I figure that could be the reason, or probably one of the two main ones.
As far as backstabbing goes...realx dude...the entire industry learned the practice from you.
Wish you a happy and prosperous 2007.
Cheers.
JC
EOG Veteran
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Rainbow,
I realize that there are places thath have got "short" before and emerged stronger than ever. I look at the old Grand Central as an example. They got into slow pay mode, but hund in there and eventually got everyone paid. They rebuilt their operation and sold out to VIP.
The problem with BetUS besides what they did to MFG and your friends are their slippery tactics. For example, closing the withdrawal window without notice from December 22nd to January 3rd. That's just not right.
Rainbow,
I realize that there are places thath have got "short" before and emerged stronger than ever. I look at the old Grand Central as an example. They got into slow pay mode, but hund in there and eventually got everyone paid. They rebuilt their operation and sold out to VIP.
The problem with BetUS besides what they did to MFG and your friends are their slippery tactics. For example, closing the withdrawal window without notice from December 22nd to January 3rd. That's just not right.
Mr. Smith
EOG Master
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
pioneer, I have nothing to do with this other than seeing hte thread I requested a withdraw on the 31st. they paid on the 3rd. I never called and asked when I would get paid. if I hadnt gotton it by now I would be worried. If I had been waiting for a payout since before Christmas I would be upset.
to me it isnt a problem if a book takes a couple days to pay, so long as they do what they say they will. if they told me Jan 1 "We will pay you on the 3rd" and then they dont, it gets scary.
I understand others have had problems with them, I can only say for myself I have not had any.
pioneer, I have nothing to do with this other than seeing hte thread I requested a withdraw on the 31st. they paid on the 3rd. I never called and asked when I would get paid. if I hadnt gotton it by now I would be worried. If I had been waiting for a payout since before Christmas I would be upset.
to me it isnt a problem if a book takes a couple days to pay, so long as they do what they say they will. if they told me Jan 1 "We will pay you on the 3rd" and then they dont, it gets scary.
I understand others have had problems with them, I can only say for myself I have not had any.
Chuck Sims
EOG Dedicated
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
JC, just ignore the sleaze. You are arguing with the same posters that ripped on you for warning people about BetOnSports.
The audacity of "TOW". The man who has no shame. Rated BetOnSports a perfect "10" weeks leading into them closing their doors and stiffing everyone. His reasoning for raising BOS to a perfect 10 even though posters were warning people to stay away from those crooks was that the BOS bashers as he called them had an "agenda".
JC, just ignore the sleaze. You are arguing with the same posters that ripped on you for warning people about BetOnSports.
The audacity of "TOW". The man who has no shame. Rated BetOnSports a perfect "10" weeks leading into them closing their doors and stiffing everyone. His reasoning for raising BOS to a perfect 10 even though posters were warning people to stay away from those crooks was that the BOS bashers as he called them had an "agenda".
rainbow
EOG Master
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
ITS NOT AS EASY AS PEOPLE THINK TO KNOW FOR SURE THAT A BOOK IS FIXING TO GO UNDER, ALOT OF PEOPLE SPECULATE BEFORE THEY KNOW 100% A BOOK IS GOING UNDER, I KNOW QUITE A FEW BOOKS IN THE PAST THAT GOT BAILED OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU NEVER KNOW 100% WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN NEXT, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO ALOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT CASCADE WAS GOING DOWN AND ALOT THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD RISK TO BET THEM, LOOK AT CASCADE THESE DAYS, NOBODY BUT NOBODY KNOWS 100% THAT A BOOK IS GOING TO GO BANKRUPT TILL IT HAPPENS, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE BOAT WILL SINK IN THIS BUSINES, I SEEN SOME CRAZY THINGS HAPPEN TO SOME BOOKS, I THOUGHT FOR SURE THEY WERE GONE, AS SOON AS I THOUGHT THAT, THEY CLIMBED BACK TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN...
ITS NOT AS EASY AS PEOPLE THINK TO KNOW FOR SURE THAT A BOOK IS FIXING TO GO UNDER, ALOT OF PEOPLE SPECULATE BEFORE THEY KNOW 100% A BOOK IS GOING UNDER, I KNOW QUITE A FEW BOOKS IN THE PAST THAT GOT BAILED OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU NEVER KNOW 100% WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN NEXT, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO ALOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT CASCADE WAS GOING DOWN AND ALOT THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD RISK TO BET THEM, LOOK AT CASCADE THESE DAYS, NOBODY BUT NOBODY KNOWS 100% THAT A BOOK IS GOING TO GO BANKRUPT TILL IT HAPPENS, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE BOAT WILL SINK IN THIS BUSINES, I SEEN SOME CRAZY THINGS HAPPEN TO SOME BOOKS, I THOUGHT FOR SURE THEY WERE GONE, AS SOON AS I THOUGHT THAT, THEY CLIMBED BACK TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN...
The General
Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Yeah, for sure. Most of the time except for the close insiders.
Yeah, for sure. Most of the time except for the close insiders.
Chuck Sims
EOG Dedicated
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Here is what these crooks are doing to a player that wants his money. BetUS blames FedEx for losing his money. Do not promote crooks by sending them your money.
BetUs (SBR rating D) casino player waiting for $30,000 since 12/8/06. BetUs customer service states that the first payment of $10,000 was lost by FedEx and subsequent withdrawal requests must be approved by top management who hasn?t been present for over two weeks. The bettor?s last five online payout request have been canceled.
Request Date Amount Method Status
Dec 18, 2006 01:20 PM $5,000.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Dec 16, 2006 01:14 PM $4,975.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Dec 15, 2006 09:52 PM $5,000.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Dec 14, 2006 05:51 AM $4,975.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Dec 11, 2006 03:42 AM $5,000.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Here is what these crooks are doing to a player that wants his money. BetUS blames FedEx for losing his money. Do not promote crooks by sending them your money.
BetUs (SBR rating D) casino player waiting for $30,000 since 12/8/06. BetUs customer service states that the first payment of $10,000 was lost by FedEx and subsequent withdrawal requests must be approved by top management who hasn?t been present for over two weeks. The bettor?s last five online payout request have been canceled.
Request Date Amount Method Status
Dec 18, 2006 01:20 PM $5,000.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Dec 16, 2006 01:14 PM $4,975.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Dec 15, 2006 09:52 PM $5,000.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Dec 14, 2006 05:51 AM $4,975.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
Dec 11, 2006 03:42 AM $5,000.00 FedEx Cancelled (As per management)
dirty
EOG Master
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
Where were the godsends of John, Chicky, and JC when WWTS was Flat out Robbing people for Well over 30 days with no warning....Oh I forgot....they endorsed that book ..... Can't have that happening.... Stealing is stealing doens't matter who it is from...if it were not for BODOG noone knows what would have happened...those poor people were Held in Limbo for Way Too Long and not one word from our 3 Knights in shining Armour.... If you are going to be a players advocate then God damn be one..... don't pick and choose which ones you bash and which ones you dont'......How any of you other than JC has credibility after that one with any posters is beyond me..... JC is the only one that came on here and responded to my questions about it...He had the Balls too....Noone else did ... Chicky dodged the questions at least 5 times.... he can't do anything but jump on the same 2-3 books and yell the sky is falling... bash people who have good experiences at questionable books and it is all just for his Ego... He is not a Players advocate.... He is a ego maniac that Likes to dogpile Royal, BoS, and Betus... Sure these books did wrong and they deserve their reputation....but there are more that have as well and never get a word said about them.... Quite funny to hear that WWTS got a pass because of Past Rep.... I almost pissed myself in Laughter.... so it is OK to Steal Money and Not tell the players they were shutting down to the Americans for Well over 45 Days ....the first few weeks no Buyer in site.... No news to tell the American PLayers...But it is fine because they had a great Rep in the Past... That gives them the Liscense to Steal..... Now Betus... holds payouts for 10 days over the Holidays and JC goes Apeshit...John Right behind him...then their Betus and Royal dogpiling on POS Chick sims...who loves To Call women ****s when they don't agree with him jumps in....Man.... what a team here....
IMO...JC is the Only one of these 3 that has the right to say a damn word...and He is biased and has an agenda....But he has earned it..... for what He has done for this Industry, for what he is still doing for this Industry, and The way WSEX is ran and earned it Reputation..... This is in No way a slam on JC...but when he posts something the dredges of the dogpilers come out of the woodwork...Not to be found until JC posts...And it is Not JCs Fault these guys don't have the Balls to stand on their own....John has taken the same money he bashes others for...Sure he gives bad ratings...but we allow people to speak about our sponsors... John is not better than Ken or anyone else that doesn't censor speach....
JC we may not always agree....But you always have my respect... as you should have everyones...
enough of the Soapbox.... But people who think Chicky is out for the player need to wake up.... He is a ego maniac who loves to start trouble, Call women ****s and cuss them out, and bash people who don't agree with Him....
Guys do your research before you deposit....Shrink has a top 10 list and you can't go wrong there...
Where were the godsends of John, Chicky, and JC when WWTS was Flat out Robbing people for Well over 30 days with no warning....Oh I forgot....they endorsed that book ..... Can't have that happening.... Stealing is stealing doens't matter who it is from...if it were not for BODOG noone knows what would have happened...those poor people were Held in Limbo for Way Too Long and not one word from our 3 Knights in shining Armour.... If you are going to be a players advocate then God damn be one..... don't pick and choose which ones you bash and which ones you dont'......How any of you other than JC has credibility after that one with any posters is beyond me..... JC is the only one that came on here and responded to my questions about it...He had the Balls too....Noone else did ... Chicky dodged the questions at least 5 times.... he can't do anything but jump on the same 2-3 books and yell the sky is falling... bash people who have good experiences at questionable books and it is all just for his Ego... He is not a Players advocate.... He is a ego maniac that Likes to dogpile Royal, BoS, and Betus... Sure these books did wrong and they deserve their reputation....but there are more that have as well and never get a word said about them.... Quite funny to hear that WWTS got a pass because of Past Rep.... I almost pissed myself in Laughter.... so it is OK to Steal Money and Not tell the players they were shutting down to the Americans for Well over 45 Days ....the first few weeks no Buyer in site.... No news to tell the American PLayers...But it is fine because they had a great Rep in the Past... That gives them the Liscense to Steal..... Now Betus... holds payouts for 10 days over the Holidays and JC goes Apeshit...John Right behind him...then their Betus and Royal dogpiling on POS Chick sims...who loves To Call women ****s when they don't agree with him jumps in....Man.... what a team here....
IMO...JC is the Only one of these 3 that has the right to say a damn word...and He is biased and has an agenda....But he has earned it..... for what He has done for this Industry, for what he is still doing for this Industry, and The way WSEX is ran and earned it Reputation..... This is in No way a slam on JC...but when he posts something the dredges of the dogpilers come out of the woodwork...Not to be found until JC posts...And it is Not JCs Fault these guys don't have the Balls to stand on their own....John has taken the same money he bashes others for...Sure he gives bad ratings...but we allow people to speak about our sponsors... John is not better than Ken or anyone else that doesn't censor speach....
JC we may not always agree....But you always have my respect... as you should have everyones...
enough of the Soapbox.... But people who think Chicky is out for the player need to wake up.... He is a ego maniac who loves to start trouble, Call women ****s and cuss them out, and bash people who don't agree with Him....
Guys do your research before you deposit....Shrink has a top 10 list and you can't go wrong there...
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rainbow
EOG Master
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH ALOT DIRTY WAS SAYING, AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF, IF JC WOULD HAVE NOT STARTED THIS THREAD NO PILING ON BY JOHN OR MR SIMS, IT?S ALMOST AS IF THEY TAKE JC?S WORD WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THE FACTS, AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT, IT?S VERY, VERY, VERY STRANGE THEY NEVER EVER START A THREAD, JC STARTS IT AND THEY PILE ON, IF JC WOULD NEVER START A THREAD WE WOULD NEVER HARDLY HEAR FROM JOHN OR MR SIMS, WITHOUT A DOUBT IN MY MIND, NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME DIFFERENT ON THAT, JOHN DOES HAVE GOOD RATINGS WITH MOST BOOKS, BUT WE ALL BEEN KNOWN TO MAKE A MISTAKE OR TWO IN THIS BUSINES, JC USUALLY HAS GOOD INFO WHENEVER HE POST SOMETHING, BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THE PILING ON COMES WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS, IF ITS NOT TRUE, WHY THEY NEVER START THREADS? I HOPE THEY BOTH COME IN AND ENLIGHTEN ME WHY THEY DONT START THREADS...
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH ALOT DIRTY WAS SAYING, AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF, IF JC WOULD HAVE NOT STARTED THIS THREAD NO PILING ON BY JOHN OR MR SIMS, IT?S ALMOST AS IF THEY TAKE JC?S WORD WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THE FACTS, AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT, IT?S VERY, VERY, VERY STRANGE THEY NEVER EVER START A THREAD, JC STARTS IT AND THEY PILE ON, IF JC WOULD NEVER START A THREAD WE WOULD NEVER HARDLY HEAR FROM JOHN OR MR SIMS, WITHOUT A DOUBT IN MY MIND, NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME DIFFERENT ON THAT, JOHN DOES HAVE GOOD RATINGS WITH MOST BOOKS, BUT WE ALL BEEN KNOWN TO MAKE A MISTAKE OR TWO IN THIS BUSINES, JC USUALLY HAS GOOD INFO WHENEVER HE POST SOMETHING, BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THE PILING ON COMES WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS, IF ITS NOT TRUE, WHY THEY NEVER START THREADS? I HOPE THEY BOTH COME IN AND ENLIGHTEN ME WHY THEY DONT START THREADS...
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Thanks for keeping it real.
BetUS = shit book.
:fishing:
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Thanks for keeping it real.
BetUS = shit book.
:fishing:
cincy_
EOG Veteran
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
If you guys are going to get into a pissing match in public, the MOST important thing for the audience is credibility. There are reasons we trust people and there are reasons that we do NOT trust people.
TOW posted this ONE WEEK BEOFRE RCS WENT BELLY UP. This was not a post in a thread - this was a NEW THREAD opened by TOW to endorse his Top 5 book.
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2005 Best payout performance Award- list them in this thread
<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->There's no better "advertisement" tool than an impeccable and fast payout track record in the gaming industry. None.
For most players winning is already a challenge. Having to sweat a payout is too much of a frustration to go through.
I myself would never play at a sportsbook that takes more than 24 hours (which in my opinion is already too long when it comes to neteller payout) to process a withdrawal.
In my personal experience this year (2005) I would rate (in the order) Pinnacle, Legendz, BetCRIS, RichCoastSports and Hollywood as top five best payout performance.
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Now, TOW if you could post something like this about JC, that would maybe help enlighten people like me who trust Jay Cohen. I am not "challenging" you - just asking for something substantial if its available. It would beat "this happened in Antigua" and "ken was there, SBR was there" and all that.
If you guys are going to get into a pissing match in public, the MOST important thing for the audience is credibility. There are reasons we trust people and there are reasons that we do NOT trust people.
TOW posted this ONE WEEK BEOFRE RCS WENT BELLY UP. This was not a post in a thread - this was a NEW THREAD opened by TOW to endorse his Top 5 book.
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No gossip, just news
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 749
</TD><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_2442544><!-- icon and title -->
2005 Best payout performance Award- list them in this thread <HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->There's no better "advertisement" tool than an impeccable and fast payout track record in the gaming industry. None.
For most players winning is already a challenge. Having to sweat a payout is too much of a frustration to go through.
I myself would never play at a sportsbook that takes more than 24 hours (which in my opinion is already too long when it comes to neteller payout) to process a withdrawal.
In my personal experience this year (2005) I would rate (in the order) Pinnacle, Legendz, BetCRIS, RichCoastSports and Hollywood as top five best payout performance.
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Now, TOW if you could post something like this about JC, that would maybe help enlighten people like me who trust Jay Cohen. I am not "challenging" you - just asking for something substantial if its available. It would beat "this happened in Antigua" and "ken was there, SBR was there" and all that.
Chuck Sims
EOG Dedicated
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Hi WOOF. We need more posters to speak up. Real posters, not sleaze that are in bed with these crooks. With JC, SBR, and myself being lone wolves, with hardly anyone else speaking out, it gives the dirtbags the courage to side with BetUS and challenge us as if we are bashing a safe and enjoyable sportsbook.
I said to stay away from BetOnSports. Now I am saying to stay away from BetUS.
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Hi WOOF. We need more posters to speak up. Real posters, not sleaze that are in bed with these crooks. With JC, SBR, and myself being lone wolves, with hardly anyone else speaking out, it gives the dirtbags the courage to side with BetUS and challenge us as if we are bashing a safe and enjoyable sportsbook.
I said to stay away from BetOnSports. Now I am saying to stay away from BetUS.
cincy_
EOG Veteran
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Like I said, people seek CREDIBILITY. Once you lose it by touting a shit book, you lose it forever. Once Tej loses it by stiffing and stealing, he loses it forever. Once BetUS loses it by pulling the shit they have, they lose it forever.
Many, many times I got into debates on these forum with people regarding BOS. Once BOS stiffed them, we were placed in a no-win situation. It wouldn't be nice to say "serves you right" but they actually did get what they deserved.
Two months before the debacle, I tried to get a friend to stop playing at BOS ... but he went on a rambling monolgue about how we just are just HATERS. When I saw him after BOS folded, I couldn't say anything about it because I knew he must have lost a shitload of cash.
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a
Like I said, people seek CREDIBILITY. Once you lose it by touting a shit book, you lose it forever. Once Tej loses it by stiffing and stealing, he loses it forever. Once BetUS loses it by pulling the shit they have, they lose it forever.
Many, many times I got into debates on these forum with people regarding BOS. Once BOS stiffed them, we were placed in a no-win situation. It wouldn't be nice to say "serves you right" but they actually did get what they deserved.
Two months before the debacle, I tried to get a friend to stop playing at BOS ... but he went on a rambling monolgue about how we just are just HATERS. When I saw him after BOS folded, I couldn't say anything about it because I knew he must have lost a shitload of cash.
JC
EOG Veteran
Re: The crooks at BetUS are at it again. They have not processed payouts for over a week
They need "top management" to authorize an $1,100 payment. They are either real tight on cash, or just as worse, are trying to slow down withdrawals by design. Choose your poison.
01.05.2007 (03:32 PM CST)
Fourth BetUs (SBR rating D) player complains of stalled withdrawal after the book?s unannounced 12 day "holiday" withdrawal freeze. The no-payout period spanned from December 22nd to January 2nd. SBR has confirmed that some players who waited have been paid after 1/2/07. Those forced to continue to wait have been told that their withdrawal "has not yet been authorized by management."
Player: I have been waiting for only 1100 dollars payout since December 28, 2006. I have been told by BETUS that they are still waiting for top management to authorize the payout. I was told that it will be paid out on January 3rd early in the morning. Then, I was told it will be mailed out Fedex on the fourth. Today, I was told it should be taken care of today or most likely by next week. This is so scary. Is there anything that I can do or is BETUS just a scam. I hope all other people realize how horrible BETUS is.
They need "top management" to authorize an $1,100 payment. They are either real tight on cash, or just as worse, are trying to slow down withdrawals by design. Choose your poison.
01.05.2007 (03:32 PM CST)
Fourth BetUs (SBR rating D) player complains of stalled withdrawal after the book?s unannounced 12 day "holiday" withdrawal freeze. The no-payout period spanned from December 22nd to January 2nd. SBR has confirmed that some players who waited have been paid after 1/2/07. Those forced to continue to wait have been told that their withdrawal "has not yet been authorized by management."
Player: I have been waiting for only 1100 dollars payout since December 28, 2006. I have been told by BETUS that they are still waiting for top management to authorize the payout. I was told that it will be paid out on January 3rd early in the morning. Then, I was told it will be mailed out Fedex on the fourth. Today, I was told it should be taken care of today or most likely by next week. This is so scary. Is there anything that I can do or is BETUS just a scam. I hope all other people realize how horrible BETUS is.