Obama Won't Win It All Sorry To Say....

G. K. TEMUJIN · Jun 10, 2008

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Barack Obama may have secured the Democratic nomination for president, but I don't think he will ever see the inside of the White House except as a visitor. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]He has two things going against him. He's African-American, and he's way too liberal for most Americans. Barring a gargantuan blunder by the Republican candidate, John McCain, those two factors will put Obama on the short end of the vote count.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Race is a factor in America, though no one is going to admit to being prejudiced to a pollster or a journalist. Nevertheless, I believe there remains a substantial number of people who simply will not vote to put an African-American in the White House.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Presidential races are won by stitching together percentages of constituencies. Unlike the Democratic nomination process, the general election is a winner-take-all system. In close races, small constituencies can mean the difference between winning and losing a state's electoral votes.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Obama has been very clever by holding rallies in places like Iowa, Minnesota and Oregon. What do these states have in common? They are white, liberal states with a very small percentage of black residents. Contrary to TV ads, which like to blame parents for teaching their children to be prejudiced, most people develop their prejudices based on their personal experiences.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]A very liberal friend of mine confided one day that he was shocked when his middle-school son said to him, "Daddy, I hate (N-word)." When questioned, it turned out that a few African-American thugs were waylaying younger white kids in the restroom, beating them up and stealing their lunch money. The spineless school administrators had done nothing to stop it.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]So this is a case in point. The boy had been taught from childhood not to be prejudiced. They had lived in California and had contact with few African-Americans. So the lesson was all theoretical. Moving into the South, however, gave this kid his first person-to-person experience with African-Americans, and it was, in his case, a bad one.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The point being, in states where blacks and whites interact, there is bound to be more friction. Don't be fooled by the la-la land created on television. Some whites don't like blacks. Some blacks don't like whites. I would like to be wrong, but I don't think we've yet reached the nirvana the TV pundits are proclaiming. Obama's win was historic, but so was emancipation, and we all know what happened after that historic event.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]I've been leery of Sen. McCain because he seems inclined to bomb Iran. However, now that Obama has sold out to the Israeli lobby, that's a moot point. Furthermore, there is not a stupid idea about gun control that Obama hasn't supported either verbally or with his vote.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Second Amendment was not written for duck hunters. It was written for self-defense and for defense against tyranny. Obama ought to talk to some of the people who survived the civil-rights revolution about how they stayed up all night with their private firearms to protect their families. He ought to research the old Jim Crow laws, which banned blacks from owning certain kinds of firearms.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]If my choice is between a guy who may bomb Iran and one who shows such contempt for the Constitution as to support gun control, then the Iranians need to start working on their bomb shelters. A man ignorant of or contemptuous of the Second Amendment cannot be trusted to obey any of the Bill of Rights. He cannot be trusted to appoint sensible judges. Americans need to send a clear message to all politicians that our rights are non-negotiable.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]If people think the Second Amendment is archaic, then try to repeal it. Until then, it is as binding as the rest of the Constitution and must be respected.[/FONT]

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Doc Mercer · Jun 10, 2008

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This guy is clueless ....

McCain is hated by the Right and Obama is eating into the Evangelical
base

Gasoline @ $5 gallon and Nicolas would vote his beloved Reagan out of
office

educatedbet · Jun 10, 2008

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Tell it to President Kerry or Gore

Doc Mercer · Jun 10, 2008

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Lets see

Gore vs Bush .. Gore wins the Popular vote and Bush is APPOINTED

Kerry vs Bush .... O'Dell and Diebold Machines tied into Smart Tech
servers in Ohio ... Kerry is leading ... the servers go down and when
they crank back up Bush "just happens" to be leading

2008 ...

The economy sucks
Iraq is a complete disaster
9 trillion and growing is our debt
Gasoline $1.64 gallon when Bush was APPOINTED ... $30 barrel when he
illegally invades and occupies Iraq

BEST PART? ROVE WONT BE ABLE TO SWIFT BOAT OBAMA ... McFossil
cant run on the economy and good luck selling the Iraq story

The 10th disct in Mississippi and Hasterts district in Illinois set the pattern ... America is pissed off at the Republicans lies and corruptions and the "Fear" gameplan is only sellable to dumbasses who watch FOX NEWS

GAME .... SET .... MATCH !!!

4625 · Jun 10, 2008

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I think Reese is wrong on this issue Mr. Khan, and here's one reason why: I think that most Americans can identify the difference between street thugs and statesmen, no matter what their color. Further, I believe that America is not divided so much by race, as by socioeconomic level. I other words, those that have--including black, white, brown or green--are more reasonably worried about those that don't have, including black, white, brown or green.
Restated, I believe an American can tell the difference between the type of person that Obama represents and the criminal element gang-banger-wannabes infesting our inner cities and prisons.
I will caveat this by stating that I live in the big city and usually only come into contact with city folk; the country folk may think and believe in a manner that I'm not accustomed to.

P.S. Thanks for posting the article.

4625 · Jun 10, 2008

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While researching Charley Reese for my response above, I ran across a few column of his that I think would interest the forum. This one shows foresight, intelligence and rationalility--ergo, I agree with it!

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Rules of Citizenship

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Here are some rules for being a good citizen. They date back to the American Revolution, but most Americans today have forgotten them.

Rule No. 1 is that people given power will tend to abuse it. This applies to everyone from local government to national government. It applies to Democrats and to Republicans. The reason it is so universal is because it originates in human nature, which is the same today as it was 10,000 years ago.

That's why the Founding Fathers labored so hard to devise a basically weak national government. Not only does the Constitution divide power between the three separate and equal branches of the federal government, it also divides power between the federal and state governments. Unfortunately, we have removed many of these safeguards.

Not everyone in government abuses power, and one of the duties of a citizen is to recognize those who don't and to reward them.

Rule No. 2 is that politicians have an inclination to lie. The Bush administration lied us into a war. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The regime of Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with al-Qaida or with the attack on the U.S. It is also a lie that "everyone believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction." The U.N. weapons inspectors had never said, after 1995, there were weapons. They said there was a paper discrepancy. One part of the government said x amount had been destroyed; another branch said it was y amount. You will find paper discrepancies in practically every government in the world. Witness, for example, the numerous weapons and large amounts of money our own government cannot account for in Iraq.

Nor, it should be added, did Saddam pretend to have weapons of mass destruction. The Iraqi government said repeatedly that it did not have them.

Lying by American politicians has become so pervasive, it is the rule rather than the exception. Lies destroy credibility, but because they are so pervasive today, few people get punished when they are caught lying. Citizens should consider a lie a mortal sin in the realm of civics, for lies are an attempt to deceive the people about very important matters. Lies are a direct attack on the American system of self-government, which is based on the premise that if the people know the truth, they can make the right decisions.

Rule No. 3 is to always oppose excessive government secrecy. Common sense tells us that government is entitled to some secrecy, primarily military in time of war. Recent governments, however, have gone overboard and promiscuously classify practically any piece of paper that comes across their desk. Usually the only thing they are protecting is our own government from embarrassment or possibly criminal prosecution.

National-security letters are a good example. These are demands by the FBI for information about citizens for which there is no search warrant. The institutions receiving them are threatened by criminal prosecution for revealing to anyone that they have received one. These warrantless searches went from 8,500 in the year 2000 to 47,000 by 2005. The current government conducts all kinds of "data sweeps" that involve our use of the Internet, including Web pages we visit and e-mails we write or receive, along with telephone calls, our spending habits, the flights we take and our bank records. The right to privacy for all practical purposes is as dead as a beached whale.

But are you being spied upon? Sorry, that's classified. Thus, invasion of privacy and secrecy go hand in hand. The only remedy I can see for this is to vote out of office the politicians who have tolerated it and to avoid electing anyone who might reasonably be expected to continue these practices. They are all done, of course, in the name of security, but Benjamin Franklin said it well when he wrote that those who prefer security to freedom deserve neither.

March 15, 2008

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YUNGBUCK · Jun 10, 2008

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I also believe that racism is MOST DEFINITELY taught @ home! And the kids that come home saying "Daddy, I hate ******s," did 99 times out of 100, here it from one of their little friends who were raised by mindless rednecks who taught it to them!!
Now, I also believe there is REVERSE racism WAY too often as well!! I have a "Ghetto Pass" in the town that I live in, and about 9/10 black people that I know absolutely love me, and me them, but I have been around a couple of them that made it there every intention to provoke and belittle me as a white man! I had a friend with me one night, and we were at the basketball courts in the back neighborhood in town hanging out with some friends of ours, and up waled an older black man (about 35-40; we were 26 @ the time) and he made it CLEAR that he meant to start some shit with us! He ended up taking a cigarette out of my buddies mouth, who in turned beat the snot out of the guy!! We both immediately apologized to the rest our black friends, and they were alright with the whole thing!! But I've been on their side when the inbreads around here have started shit with them!
Again, these things all happened several years ago, when I was in my MUCH wilder days, but it just proves the point that racism CAN be overcome, as long as you REALLY want to overcome it!! I have TONS of black friends, some of who I would trust with my life!! And I'm of the opinion that anyone with any sense can overcome it as well!!
:cheers

educatedbet · Jun 10, 2008

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Is America a racist country? NO

Are their many racist both white , black , red and yellow in our country? YES

Time will tell in the voting Booth. See ya in Nov

Doc Mercer · Jun 10, 2008

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Better question:

are there a lot of UNINFORMED folks who vote??

Nicolos_Darvas · Jun 10, 2008

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G. K. TEMUJIN said:
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]He has two things going against him. He's African-American, and he's way too liberal for most Americans. Barring a gargantuan blunder by the Republican candidate, John McCain, those two factors will put Obama on the short end of the vote count.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Race is a factor in America, though no one is going to admit to being prejudiced to a pollster or a journalist. Nevertheless, I believe there remains a substantial number of people who simply will not vote to put an African-American in the White House.[/FONT]

How about these facts ? 90% of the blacks voted for OBama in the primary. Why ??? Because he is black -- That's why !!!

dysieBEL · Jun 13, 2008

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Right now, they are just starting to set the tone of their campaign. This early, i really can't tell which i would side with, but i am leaning towards obama. Furthermore, the GOP base is not even warming up to mccain (of course, i could be wrong) and even though it's still early in the game, this just proves to show how we see our candidates to-date. i know i will get burned for this, but i think mccain is a warmonger. i get the impression that he doesn't care to what happens to our troops in the middle east and the other parts of the world. Can?t we just all get along? i think it is time for a purification; i think it is time for a change; i think it is time for obama time. Now that the candidates are set for the US Presidential Election, Barack Obama and John McCain are beginning to set the tone for their campaign. Looking at their most recent speeches in pollClash , what do you think about what you hear?<o>

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G. K. TEMUJIN · Jul 10, 2008

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[FONT=Times New Roman,Georgia,Times]Tv Schizophrenia[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]The most striking example of how the world depicted on television and the real world differ is the fact that if you were an alien judging America by watching television, you would logically believe that blacks are at least 50 percent of the U.S. population.

In fact, they are only 13 percent.

I point this out not to complain that blacks are overrepresented. After all, they were virtually invisible on TV for most of the past. No, my point is simply that television, in both its entertainment and its advertising — perhaps out of a passion for political correctness — overrepresents the presence of blacks. I'm still looking in vain in the real world for one of those groups of affluent black and white people having the gay old time one often sees in the television commercials.

Our society has fewer blacks and is still far more segregated than you would ever guess from how the world is depicted on television. My experience in the workplace was that while there were cordial relations at work, at the end of the day white and black employees went their separate ways and didn't see each other until work the next day.

I think that is more common than exceptional. And, of course, in many parts of America there are hardly any blacks at all. The most numerous minority in America is Hispanics, but the federal bureaucrats don't know how to classify them racially because some Hispanics are white, some are black, and some are in between. I asked a mestizo (part Indian, part Spanish) once which part of his ancestry he identified with — the conquering Spaniard or the conquered Indian? He said it was an interesting question.

I've stopped using the term "African-American," except where it applies. It applies if you were born in Africa and moved here. The majority of blacks in America have ancestors who have been here for centuries, and if that doesn't qualify you to be an unhyphenated American, I don't know what does. I agree with Teddy Roosevelt that we ought to get rid of the notion of hyphenated Americans.
I also fail to see the point of the federal government insisting on classifying us by race.

We are a stew pot of a country, so what does it matter what color we are?

It seems to me that classification by race contradicts the supposed ideal of a colorblind society. It seems to me that classification by race in fact perpetuates racism. It certainly plays into the hands of those who like to play racial or ethnic politics.

I doubt we will ever become a truly colorblind society, because nature seems to have programmed us to notice differences. Perhaps in our early ancestors it was a survival mechanism. We can, of course, teach ourselves to disregard differences after we have noted them, but the difference between a rabid dog and a barking pet will always be important.

Television distorts the world in other ways, too. By collecting all the crimes and disasters, it can certainly create the impression that the world is more dangerous than it actually is. Television fiction and movies have created the impression, for example, of the widespread use by criminals of automatic weapons. When an actual survey was conducted, it was found that the use of automatic weapons was extremely rare.

Common sense and experience could have told the politicians that. A criminal wants a weapon that is easily concealable and, except for the occasional nut case, hopes to avoid having to fire it.

When some bank robbers in California actually did use automatic weapons, the media went nuts talking about how the cops were "outgunned."

Oh? When the shooting ended, who was dead?

Only the bank robbers. Some of the "outgunned" police were wounded, but not one was killed.

To use the television technique of posing a melodramatic question, Could it be that television is America's new form of schizophrenia?

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mr merlin · Jul 10, 2008

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I agree there are way too many blacks in certain areas, sports, entertainment , come to mind. After all, since we "know" that all people are equal, how can we possibly explain differences in outcome(such as the nba and nfl) except by racism?

Tiger V · Jul 10, 2008

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YUNGBUCK said:
I also believe that racism is MOST DEFINITELY taught @ home! And the kids that come home saying "Daddy, I hate ******s," did 99 times out of 100, here it from one of their little friends who were raised by mindless rednecks who taught it to them!!
Now, I also believe there is REVERSE racism WAY too often as well!! I have a "Ghetto Pass" in the town that I live in, and about 9/10 black people that I know absolutely love me, and me them, but I have been around a couple of them that made it there every intention to provoke and belittle me as a white man! I had a friend with me one night, and we were at the basketball courts in the back neighborhood in town hanging out with some friends of ours, and up waled an older black man (about 35-40; we were 26 @ the time) and he made it CLEAR that he meant to start some shit with us! He ended up taking a cigarette out of my buddies mouth, who in turned beat the snot out of the guy!! We both immediately apologized to the rest our black friends, and they were alright with the whole thing!! But I've been on their side when the inbreads around here have started shit with them!
Again, these things all happened several years ago, when I was in my MUCH wilder days, but it just proves the point that racism CAN be overcome, as long as you REALLY want to overcome it!! I have TONS of black friends, some of who I would trust with my life!! And I'm of the opinion that anyone with any sense can overcome it as well!!
:cheers

Is this the same guy that told someone in here to kiss his black ass?

mr merlin · Jul 10, 2008

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Tiger V said:
Is this the same guy that told someone in here to kiss his black ass?

I believe so, he's also the guy who said he'd never be back. I guess he's definitly not a racist since he has "tons" of black friends to go along with his "ghetto pass". :LMAO

Tiger V · Jul 10, 2008

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is he white on some days and black on others?:+clueless

mr merlin · Jul 10, 2008

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People are usually honest when they're angry, he's probably black. He better watch out though - jesse jackson might try to "cut his nuts off" for dissing his heritage.

Tiger V · Jul 10, 2008

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merlin,never really thought about that but makes sense.hell,seems like it would be easier not to lie.

HotShotHarvey · Jul 10, 2008

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So, Merlin, what you're saying is that NFL and NBA teams practice racism because there are so many Blacks on those teams...and that , really, if they went by "who were the best players", more whites would make those teams? Essentially, you're saying they would rather be worse-would rather lose-than give "whitey" his just reward-a spot on the team??? Do you know how nuts that sounds??? That is the dumbest post of many dumb ones you have come up with here!! CONGRATS!! Your family must be very proud of you!!

HotShotHarvey · Jul 10, 2008

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McNUTS HAS made blunder after blunder...that's why the "middle" won't vote for him-and why Obama will win! Not for any other reason than Bush is too toxic, and McNUTS voted with him 95% of the time. The straight talk express crashed and burned when McNUTS got the nomination. If he had remained the maverick of 2000 he had a good chance...NOT NOW or EVER!!!

mr merlin · Jul 11, 2008

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HotShotHarvey said:
So, Merlin, what you're saying is that NFL and NBA teams practice racism because there are so many Blacks on those teams...and that , really, if they went by "who were the best players", more whites would make those teams? Essentially, you're saying they would rather be worse-would rather lose-than give "whitey" his just reward-a spot on the team??? Do you know how nuts that sounds??? That is the dumbest post of many dumb ones you have come up with here!! CONGRATS!! Your family must be very proud of you!!

I'm not saying that at all - because that is indeed ridiculous, just as when blacks perform poorly on standardized tests, or achieve some lower level of outcome in certain endeavors, it is usually blamed on racism, which is equally ridiculous.

G. K. TEMUJIN · Jul 18, 2008

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WHAT A CHOICE AMERICA SHOULD BE BETTER SERVED

[FONT=Times New Roman,Georgia,Times]The Creeks Rise[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]The only presidential poll that matters is the one on Election Day, when voters will put an end to what seems like an endless campaign. I don't see much point in speculating about who's ahead on this or that day or parsing every word the candidates utter.

All we know for certain is that on Nov. 4, either Barack Obama or John McCain will become the president-elect, God willing and the Creeks don't rise. None of the minor candidates on the ballot has a chance. If you wish to waste a vote on one of them and it makes you feel better, go ahead, but the man who will affect your life during the next four years will be either Obama or McCain.

Neither man has much executive experience. They are the CEOs of their campaigns, and McCain had some experience as a squadron commander in the Navy. Both men have spent all of their political careers in the legislative branch.
That fact has this bearing on the subject: The essence of the legislative branch is compromise. Good legislators know how to compromise because they know that without compromise nothing will get done. You might want to keep that in mind as both men modify their positions. Accusing politicians of flip-flopping has become a rather worn political weapon, but the fact is, both men are used to compromising, and that always involves at least a slight change of position.

I would think that at least those of you who share my displeasure with the Bush administration would have had enough of a president who refuses to compromise or change his position. The world is in a constant state of change, and quite often our knowledge is constantly changing. It is only sensible to assess the situation as it is in real time before making a final decision. That means it is difficult to say with certainty in July what you will do next February.

Who knows what the situation will be next February in the economy, in the wars and in domestic affairs? Other than my assumption that the weather will be cooler, I certainly don't know what the world will be like or if I will even be around to see it. We humans have a tendency to delude ourselves that we are much more in control than we actually are.

The custom of some Muslims of adding "In shaa' Allah" (if God wills) to the end of most of their statements of intention is a good one. It is a reminder that all plans are, in fact, contingency plans, subject to interruption or changes because of things we don't control and can't foresee. The old Southern expression "God willin' and the Creeks don't rise" says the same thing. I grew up thinking that phrase referred to flooding creeks, but someone corrected me. It refers to an uprising of the Creek Indians, which in the 1700s and early 1800s could put a crinkle in anybody's plans.

One other caution about politicians: The devil is not only in the details, but in the definitions, and politicians are experts at saying things without defining their terms. "Reasonable gun control," for example, depends entirely on what you define as reasonable. A total ban on handgun ownership was thought reasonable by the pooh-bahs in Washington, D.C. I think banning firearm ownership by convicted felons is reasonable, provided they are not branded as convicted felons for their whole lives. A "phased withdrawal of troops" depends on what you mean by phased — so many a month or so many a year? No permanent bases in Iraq can mean bases for 50 years. That's not permanent.

It's sad that so many of our political leaders and our own government have adopted the habit of trying to mislead us or at least to hide the truth from us. Maybe we can break them of that habit — God willing.

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