Gay Marriage Sucks!

Gay Marriage Sucks!
Posted by Justin Raimondo on July 01, 2008

The recent decision by the California Supreme Court overturning a ban on gay marriage has, once again, thrust this issue into the malestrom of political debate, and, simultaneously, revived the sagging fortunes of groups on both sides.

On the liberal left, the gay marriage movement is stoking up its engines for a major push to legitimize?so they believe?homosexual relationships in a social as well as a civil sense, and make the final push for gay ?equality.?

On the right, particularly the religious fundamentalist right, the scaremongering direct mail fundraisers are enjoying a major bonanza, frightening tens of thousands of little old ladies in Middle America to cough up $10, $20, and even $50 contributions to the Religious Right?s ongoing campaign to Save Marriage From Godless Queers.

Both sides are seriously deluded, albeit in different ways. Let?s start with the Godless Queers?

Marriage is all about children: otherwise, there is no real reason for it, and especially not in the modern world, where internet hook-ups, de facto polygamy, and rampant promiscuity are widely accepted. It is, in short, an economic institution, a financial framework for the bringing up of a new generation. Marriage is an agreement between two adults that they will, together, provide for the needs of their offspring, and, indeed, when the time comes, pass on their accumulated wealth.

This is not to say that childless marriages aren?t really marriages, or that all the emotional and psychological trappings of traditional marriage?monogamy, commitment, and, yes, love*are irrelevant. I am here talking about the civil institution of marriage, as it has evolved in the English-speaking world, and not the cultural phenomenon that has evolved over many millennia*something not created but rather co-opted by the State.

As Camille Paglia points out:

<dl><dd>I think [gay marriage] is a flash point for antigay backlash?. That?s the problem: calling it a marriage. If you ask the working class guy on the street, ?Do you believe in gay marriages?? it makes him absolutely have a convulsion of revulsion. Marriage was traditionally meant for male and female. It was a bond for the raising of children, so it always had a procreative meaning too, and it has a long sacred tradition behind it. I hate any time that gay causes get mixed up with seeming to profane other people?s sacred tradition. The gay activist leadership has been totally clumsy about that. Rather than treating it in a serious way and saying ?We respect the tradition of marriage,? gay activism is associated with throwing balloons of blood at the steps of St. Patrick?s.

</dd></dl>Pagilia is right. Marriage is not a civil institution but a religious-cultural tradition that the State has (so far) been forced to respect and recognize*and it is centered around procreation, which is not an issue most homosexuals have to deal with.

Which brings us to the central argument against gay marriage, which is that it is based on a heterosexual model of sexual and emotional relationships, one that just doesn?t fit the gay lifestyle. The whole idea of getting gays hitched is derivative of the central error of egalitarianism, the counterintuitive conception of human beings as being ?equal? and, therefore, interchangeable* and therefore one-size-fits- all. Egalitarianism isn?t really a political ideology: it?s a religion, one quite capable of withstanding a sustained assault of clear evidence to the contrary.

I direct your attention to anecdotal yet telling evidence of this misconception by pointing out that, in the rush to the altar by many gay couples in California, the most prominent, and, I?ll bet, most numerous, were female couples. Women, of course, love the idea of marriage, and an old lesbian joke illustrates this penchant for connubial bliss:

<dl><dd>What does a lesbian bring to a second date? *A moving van

</dd><dd>The sequel to this knee-slapper, however, illustrates that the procreative principle works both ways: What does a lesbian bring to a third date? *A turkey baster ?.

</dd></dl>Lesbians can, and do, get pregnant: they raise children, thousands of whom are presently alive and kicking. In San Francisco, they make up a significant*and growing*part of the public school population. Lesbians, therefore, fit into the procreative model of marriage, even though they cannot reproduce without the passive participation of men who donate sperm. Gay men, on the other hand, are ? men, and no man really wants to get married.

Promiscuity and its attendant attitudes go hand-in-hand with maleness: it?s our genetic and socially constructed legacy, imprinted on our very nature and invincible to the assaults of both politically correct feminists and puritans of the Right. Monogamy and maleness are opposites in a dichotomy: the idea of sexual fidelity is distinctively feminine, linked as it is with an overwhelming (and inherent) need for security and certainty ? that is, the certainty that the father of her children will assist in their proper rearing. The collapse of this socio-sexual compact, which undergirds our civilization, is behind the inner city?s descent into barbarism, where roving bands of undisciplined fatherless males have been unleashed, wreaking havoc and filling the prisons.

Marriage, in the context of male homosexuality, isn?t just a contradiction: the very idea of two males getting ?married? evokes such protest precisely because it parodies heterosexual unions. A parody, after all, is a take-off on the original, one that apes the form but denies or mocks its essence. This mockery is what the anti-gay marriage crowd bristles at*and rightly so.

Yet it isn?t just this threat of an antigay backlash, which Ms. Paglia rightly points to, that is the most objectionable aspect of the proposal to ?legalize? gay marriage. The worst victims of the gay marriage proposal won?t be straights, in spite of the ridiculous cries that marriage will be ?devalued,? and will therefore become less popular, if two queers are allowed to get hitched. The ones who will really be hurt by admission to the temple of Hera will be gay men.

With gay marriage comes the inevitable gay divorce*and, believe you me, it?s going to be ugly. If gay activists think that marriage is going to somehow legitimize homosexuality in the eyes of Middle America, then they have yet to imagine the new hit ?reality tv? show, ?Gay Divorce Court,? which will make the heterosexual version seem like a Sunday School picnic. Indeed, I predict that, given the nature of the male animal, the gay male divorce rate will soon outstrip the rate of new gay male marriages. Gay marriage*in the gay male community, that is*is prone to self-abolition.

This gay male aversion to marriage is prefigured in the rate of domestic partnerships* intended as a precursor of gay marriage*in urban gay ghettos. Even fewer will sign up for that trip to the altar, especially when it dawns on them that with the right to marry comes a few responsibilities, particularly of a financial nature.

This is where the propaganda of the right-wing anti-gay marriage movement goes completely off the rails: the alleged ?threat? represented to marriage as an institution by the prospect of gay unions ranges from nil to nonexistent. The idea that gay people, given the opportunity, are going to rush to get married is a fantasy shared by both sides in this debate. But what about states where sexual infidelity is grounds for divorce? Lots of factors no one?s even considered will lead to the big fizzle of ?gay marriage.?

Do gay guys really want to have half their incomes claimed by their spouses? With gay marriage comes gay alimony, and that is what is going to make ?Gay Divorce Court? such a tawdry tale of twinks on the make and sugar daddies paying through the nose. Gay marriage is going to go out of style rather quickly as a whole series of high-profile divorce cases make their way through the courts.

The very phrase ?gay marriage? is an oxymoron. Homosexuality, after all, is really all about the avoidance of marriage ? and the responsibility of raising a family. It is the embrace of sensuality for its own sake, as an instrument of pure pleasure rather than procreation. Do gay guys really want to give up what is most attractive ? to males, at any rate ? about their recreational activities, the tremendous sense of freedom it implies?

Today?s gay activists are embarked on what is truly a futile mission, to make homosexuality seem ?natural.? But they really ought to take their cues from their predecessors among the ancients, who took the opposite tack. In ancient Greece, philosophers debated the merits and demerits of homosexual behavior?although ?gayness? was a concept unknown to them, thank the gods?and the defenders of this practice were, then as now, confronted with the argument that homosexuality is ?unnatural.?

Pausanias, in Plato?s Symposium, answers that homosexuality is the ?heavenly love? precisely because it is divorced from earthly carnality and centered around an idealized conception of beauty. It is purely aesthetic, and not at all procreative, that is, completely unnatural and artificial. To Pausanias, and his classical Greek comrades, this made it superior to the crassness of ?the meaner sort of men,? exclusive hetereosexuals, who lacked the ?higher? capacity to appreciate beauty in all its forms, including the male form.

Far from arguing that homosexuality was the equivalent of heterosexuality, the ancient advocates of same-sex love emphasized the great gulf that separates the two. Rather than aping heterosexuals and relentlessly lobbying for the ?right? to marry, Plato?s crowd sought to distance themselves from the mundane and underscore their singularity. Pausanias argues that the choice of younger men over available women is indicative of a superior moral quality, evidence of a purity that defies and transcends biology. Homosexual love, he averred, represents an improvement over nature ? which is, after all, the signal characteristic of human civilization.

To the gay activists of the modern era, with their dogma of biological determinism ? the ?gay gene*and their ingrained egalitarianism, such an argument is inconceivable. For them, there is no choice involved: they fervently believe they are genetically determined to engage in homosexual acts. In this view, sexual orientation is like gender and race. In the context of the society in which we live, this means that it is*or ought to be*illegal to ?discriminate? on the basis of sexual orientation, in the same way and for the same reasons it is now a hate crime to consider matters of race, religion, and gender in the realm of housing, employment, and socio-economic relations in general.

This orthodoxy sits atop a mountain of pseudo-science mixed with moralizing, one that asserts*without convincing scientific evidence*that sexual ?orientation? is genetically determined. It is the Left-liberal version of Lysenkoism, in which ideology determines political conclusions in advance of the facts (except that Lysenko, and his Stalinist sponsors, were expressing the leftist orthodoxy of the day that men could be engineered through the power of the State.)

The irony is that while most organizations of the Left (and Right) are allergic to the very notion of inheritable differences, the gay rights lobby sticks to a dogmatic genetic determinism that is otherwise relegated to the outer bounds of political incorrectness.

Aside from the lack of scientific evidence, common sense weighs in against this kind of crude genetic reductionism when we?re talking about an area so rife with subtlety, nuance*and variety as human sexuality. After all, what about bisexuals ? are they genetic freaks, or are they just making different choices at different times in their lives?

The Kinsey Report, which was hailed by liberals at the time of its release ? and damned by conservatives* showed that the great majority of homosexual activity takes place between men who identify as primarily heterosexual: their ?gay? activities are furthermore limited to certain periods in their lives. The category of exclusive homosexuals was in the low single digits*although, again, sexual behavior was shown to change over time ? another powerful argument against the theory of sexual ?orientation,? which insists on rigid allegiance to certain behaviors.

And in the end, genetics is merely a ploy. The entire gay rights movement is based on the most unattractive, indeed pathetic motive imaginable*the need for acceptance.

A true libertarian position on gay marriage is very simple: libertarians seek to prevent the incursion of the State into private affairs. This means that any libertarian worthy of the name must oppose ?legalizing? the very real marriages that do exist in the gay community, albeit not in a form most ?straights? would find either familiar or acceptable.

The State, after all, has already made a strenuous and largely successful effort to regulate and intervene in the natural life of families, as well as the relations between women and men*the advent of gay marriage would mean extending the reach of the State over the private lives of individuals. Surely no libertarian could agree to such a thing, and would certainly do everything to oppose it.

Yet all sorts of alleged ?libertarians? and fellow travelers simply assume that support for gay marriage*and, indeed, for the homosexual lifestyle*is a central principle of libertarianism. It simply isn?t so.

Libertarianism is only a political and economic theory. It has nothing to say whatever about what ?lifestyle? a person chooses or the subject of quantum physics: it isn?t an all-embracing moral-metaphysical system that purports to explain everything and has a prescription for living one?s life. Libertarians neither endorse nor damn homosexuals and homosexuality: we simply say that sexual activities between consenting adults are no business of the State ? period.

That old leftist slogan, ?the personal is the political,? expresses the supremely anti-libertarian instinct that today politicizes even the most intimate social interactions. The irony is that this serves, in turn, to de-sexualize the behavior it seeks to legitimize. As George Orwell put it: politics is merely sex gone sour. In the end, the campaign to ?legitimize? homosexuality could very well end up reducing its appeal, and, in a kind of rough justice, reducing the number of homosexuals.

It used to be that the gay world was a kind of underground club, the sort with a big brawny doorman who looked you up and down real good before he let you in the door. Nowadays, just anyone can just waltz right in, without so much as a ?by your leave.? It?s all part of a general leveling trend, the tendency toward ordinariness and uniformity that characterizes modern life.

Ostensible conservatives such as Andrew Sullivan and Bruce Bawer, who jumped on the gay marriage bandwagon early on, make a point of emphasizing this ordinariness, pushing the meme that gays are just like straights ? only their wedding cakes have same-sex figurines atop them.

In yet another irony, it looks like the gay ?liberation? movement has turned into its opposite. Instead of rebelling against the bourgeois social order, and asserting and celebrating their ?liberation? from legalistic and moral norms, gay activists seek to reinforce those norms by ?broadening? them. What started out as a movement for ?gay liberation? has turned into a campaign to make gay society as restrictive of sexuality (particularly male sexuality) as the straight world ? and even more boring.

Is nothing sacred anymore? It used to be that the American State had invaded every other aspect of American life: there was hardly a nook or a cranny left unoccupied by our army of bureaucrats, lawyers, judges, and elected politicians. The gay subculture was once largely outside of this system, and therefore homosexuals enjoyed enormous freedom and flexibility in their personal lives, a happy condition that marriage ? and any form of state intervention* invariably ends. Which is precisely why gay marriage will prove to be just as unpopular in the gay male community as it is in the heart of the Bible belt, albeit for wildly different reasons.


http://www.takimag. com/site/ article/gay_ marriage_ sucks/
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

This always pops up every four years. I doubt this year it will have much effect nationally, could be a factor locally though.

P.S. I believe the Thread title should be changed to: MARRIAGE SUCKS!
 

stifflers mom

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

The Munchkin Man says it's not for anyone.

Munchkin Man

who is the munchkin man to tell anyone what they can or cannot do?

if the munchink man feels the munchkin man has that right to tell anyone how to live their lives the munchkin man is living in the wrong country as it's not a dictatorship.

the munchkin man should start the munchkin man's own country and rule it with the iron fist of the munchkin man
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

who is the munchkin man to tell anyone what they can or cannot do?

if the munchink man feels the munchkin man has that right to tell anyone how to live their lives the munchkin man is living in the wrong country as it's not a dictatorship.

the munchkin man should start the munchkin man's own country and rule it with the iron fist of the munchkin man

Gay marriage is an abomination unto the Lord.

Therefore, gay marriage is an abomination unto the Munchkin Man.

Munchkin Man
 

stifflers mom

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

Gay marriage is an abomination unto the Lord.

Therefore, gay marriage is an abomination unto the Munchkin Man.

Munchkin Man

What's this Lord person your talking about and where can I find him to ax him his/hers opinion on gay marriage......for all you know this Lord person might be gay
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

I'm not against two women getting married, after all they're probably just a couple uglies that would never find a man anyway. Now two men getting married - thats sick!
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

What's this Lord person your talking about and where can I find him to ax him his/hers opinion on gay marriage......for all you know this Lord person might be gay

If you have a problem with the Lord's position on gay marriage, then maybe you can demand a conference with him when you first arrive at the Pearly Gates.

Saint Peter ought to be able to tell you if you can see Him.

But don't get your hopes up.

What you might want to do is take back the comment you made about the Lord above.

You don't want to make Him mad.

But he will forgive you if you ask for forgiveness and repent.

Otherwise, you may be turned away and sent to the place "downstairs."

The Munchkin Man doesn't wish such a fate on anybody.

With Blessings,

Munchkin Man
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

Gay marriage is an abomination unto the Lord.

Therefore, gay marriage is an abomination unto the Munchkin Man.

Munchkin Man

BULLSHIT

Life is too freaking short and if 2 people of the same sex wanna get married WTF should care

Marriage is NOT about kids - never has been and never will be and the author of this Piece of Shit should be disgraced for saying so - and he actually contradicts himself later on in the same article

and please don't tell me Gay marriages will ruin the institution of marriage because if someone says that my reply is that "normal" people do a damn good job of fucking up the institution of marriage by themselves. OVER 50% of all "normal" couples get divorced so how does that help preserve the institution that Gays and Lesbians are told will ruin it?

seems to me "Normal" people ruined it by themselves
 

Wise Guy

EOG Addicted
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

Gay marriage is an abomination unto the Lord. Therefore, gay marriage is an abomination unto the Munchkin Man.
Munchkin Man

Wow. I learn something new here everyday.

Munchkin, are you putting us on -- or is this stuff you write here -- really you?
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

BULLSHIT

Life is too freaking short and if 2 people of the same sex wanna get married WTF should care

The Munchkin Man should care.

The Munchkin Man should care because the Munchkin Man believes what the Bible has to say about homosexuality.

The same goes for any other Bible believing Christian.

Marriage is NOT about kids - never has been and never will be

The Munchkin Man disagrees with you.

If a married couple has children, then the children become a major part of what that marriage is all about.

and please don't tell me Gay marriages will ruin the institution of marriage because if someone says that my reply is that "normal" people do a damn good job of fucking up the institution of marriage by themselves. OVER 50% of all "normal" couples get divorced so how does that help preserve the institution that Gays and Lesbians are told will ruin it? seems to me "Normal" people ruined it by themselves

Gay marriages DO ruin the institution of marriage.

God instituted marriage between a man and a woman.

Marriages between same sex couples were not part of God's plan.

The Munchkin Man suggests that you read the following:

DECAPOLIS : 10 - Why Did God Institute Marriage?

Now then.

You stated that many "normal" people ruin their own marriages "by themselves."

Your phrase "by themselves" is important here.

Making a marriage work takes work that goes beyond trying to do it "by themselves."

It takes help from God.

It takes help from God's guidelines for marriage as prescribed in the Holy Bible.

The Munchkin Man will argue that most marriages fail because the couples fail to practice the Christian principles of marriage as prescribed by God in the Holy Bible.

Here's another reason why everybody should "care" about the issue of gay marriages.

Suppose a mother takes her children to the pond to feed the ducks.

Along comes a mother duckling with her little baby ducklings following behind her.

This is a beautiful sight to behold.

This is normal and one of many examples of God's wonderful handiwork.

Then on the way home from the pond, the mother and her children see two males walking along, holding hands, and kissing.

This is a hideous and disgusting sight to behold.

This is abnormal and a defiant aberration of God's handiwork.

"Mommy, mommy, those two men are holding hands and kissing!" one child shrieks in horror.

What is the mother supposed to do?

Her children have just witnessed a living example of human degradation and perversity.

Their memory of the mother duckling and her baby ducks becomes erased by the horror of the abomination they have just witnessed.

It now becomes the mother's duty to explain to her children, at a level they can understand, the sin of homosexuality.

If the mother fails to do so.......................

Then the children are likely to grow up believing that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable alternative lifestyle that should be respected and tolerated.

When children grow up believing that such perversity is socially acceptable, then they become less likely to accept the sanctity of marriage, between a man and a woman, as instituted by God.

The gay couples they will watch during their lifetimes will serve as unholy role models for their growth and development.

The worldwide homesexual agenda includes brainwashing and indoctrinating the world's innocent and precious children into believing that homosexuality is an acceptable altenative lifestyle and then recruiting as many as they can into their unholy ranks.

In summary, gay marriage has a poisonous effect upon a child's moral and spiritual growth and development.

If what the Munchkin Man has said above has offended you, then that's too bad.

This is what the Munchkin Man believes.

The Munchkin Man is who the Munchkin Man is.

And what the Munchkin Man believes is a major part of who the Munchkin Man is.

If the Munchkin Man's rant this morning is going to cost him a few friends, then they were never true friends to begin with.

The Munchkin Man was getting sick and tired of keeping his beliefs to himself for the sake of "keeping the peace."

It is high time for the Munchkin Man to stand up for what the Munchkin Man believes and to express what the Munchkin Man truly believes.

To paraphrase what Jesus Christ said from Matthew 10:34:

"The Munchkin Man comes not to send peace, but a sword."

Let the sodomites of the world be on notice:

The Munchkin Man's sword is drawn.

AMEN!

Munchkin Man
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

Wow. I learn something new here everyday.

Munchkin, are you putting us on -- or is this stuff you write here -- really you?

Greetings Wise Guy:

The Munchkin Man thanks you very much for your question.

Yes, what that Munchkin Man has written has come from the one and only and true Munchkin Man.

The Munchkin Man has a lot of deeply felt and passionately held moral and spiritual beliefs.

The Munchkin Man believes what the Munchkin Man believes.

It is an integral part of who the Munchkin Man is.

The Munchkin deeply regrets the loss of any friends his beliefs may cost him.

On the other hand, it is not worth the loss of the Munchkin Man's identity and self-respect to remain silent on his beliefs.

Thanks again for asking.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

If God says that homosexual love is the only true form of love, would homosexual love then be the 'accepted' form of sex?
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

OK, we've "advanced" to legal gay marriage.

But what will gay "legal" divorce look like? Are two guys really going to go through the trouble of obtaining lawyers and working through some sort of legal dissolution of marriage and division of assets? Maybe so if one partner is rich, and the other partner wants to go for the lottery.

But from the ones I see on TV, looks to me, despite the "legalization," when the two gays decide to split, there will be no legal work.

"You take the stereo, and I'll take the couch. See ya'."

They'll both be back in the clubs that night, ready to get "married" again.
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

most people don't see it, but some people do / like i do / long term affects

if these gay freak marriages are allowed to expand through the country,
which they very well can now because once it starts it might never end,
they will slowly but surely change society as a whole and ruin the world.

100 years from now the USA will be known as the *** nation of the world.
if this is the case / this country will be laughed at rather than respected.
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

if these gay freak marriages are allowed to expand through the country,
which they very well can now because once it starts it might never end,
they will slowly but surely change society as a whole and ruin the world.

Do you care to elaborate on exactly HOW allowing people to do as they wish, so long as they deprive no one else of their life, liberty, or property, will "change society and ruin the world"?

100 years from now the USA will be known as the *** nation of the world.
if this is the case / this country will be laughed at rather than respected.

You do realize that just about the entire industrialized world has come to grips with that fact that homosexual people exist, are human beings, and deserve the same liberties that anyone else should enjoy.

Europe already laughs at America for being so damned uptight about who does what to who in their own bedroom.

Please spare us your paranoid delusions.
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

Please spare us your paranoid delusions.
I just got here, so spare me the smartass comments.
my thoughts have nothing to do with paranoia or delusions son,
it's my opinion and my belief from what i've seen in the last 40 years.
no, i don't wish to explain it either after a smartass comment like that.
but i will say this, if you've been around long enough you might understand.

if my post bothers you then don't read it or don't respond {like i said}

Quote:
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most people don't see it, but some people do
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gl on the games
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

Do you care to elaborate on exactly HOW allowing people to do as they wish, so long as they deprive no one else of their life, liberty, or property, will "change society and ruin the world"?

Please allow the Munchkin Man to interject, as the Munchkin Man already explained this in Post #15 of this thread.

Here is a key excerpt from Post #15:

Suppose a mother takes her children to the pond to feed the ducks.

Along comes a mother duckling with her little baby ducklings following behind her.

This is a beautiful sight to behold.

This is normal and one of many examples of God's wonderful handiwork.

Then on the way home from the pond, the mother and her children see two males walking along, holding hands, and kissing.

This is a hideous and disgusting sight to behold.

This is abnormal and a defiant aberration of God's handiwork.

"Mommy, mommy, those two men are holding hands and kissing!" one child shrieks in horror.

What is the mother supposed to do?

Her children have just witnessed a living example of human degradation and perversity.

Their memory of the mother duckling and her baby ducks becomes erased by the horror of the abomination they have just witnessed.

It now becomes the mother's duty to explain to her children, at a level they can understand, the sin of homosexuality.

If the mother fails to do so.......................

Then the children are likely to grow up believing that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable alternative lifestyle that should be respected and tolerated.

When children grow up believing that such perversity is socially acceptable, then they become less likely to accept the sanctity of marriage, between a man and a woman, as instituted by God.

The gay couples they will watch during their lifetimes will serve as unholy role models for their growth and development.

The worldwide homesexual agenda includes brainwashing and indoctrinating the world's innocent and precious children into believing that homosexuality is an acceptable altenative lifestyle and then recruiting as many as they can into their unholy ranks.

In summary, gay marriage has a poisonous effect upon a child's moral and spiritual growth and development.

The moral degradation of homosexual behavior is contagious, and even becomes more so, when society decides to sanction it as an acceptable alternative lifestyle. As a result, the moral fiber of a society which accepts such behavior becomes weakened.

Europe already laughs at America for being so damned uptight about who does what to who in their own bedroom.

America is also the greatest country in the world.

Unfortunately, this threatens to come to an end if Barack Obama is elected.

Munchkin Man
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

well that's one way of putting it
[although i'm not a big lord praiser myself]
well said Munchkin
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

I just got here, so spare me the smartass comments.

Welcome aboard... now grow a thick skin.

my thoughts have nothing to do with paranoia or delusions son,
it's my opinion and my belief from what i've seen in the last 40 years.

You do realize that homosexuals have been around as long as human beings have been around... right? Society hasn't been ruined or come to an end.

no, i don't wish to explain it either after a smartass comment like that.
but i will say this, if you've been around long enough you might understand.

It's my opinion that you don't "want" to explain it because you don't have an explanation and that's all you really had to say...

Let's see... I just completed my 36th trip around the sun and I have "literally" been all over the world. If you'd like to have a rational and logical discussion about this topic, then I'm all for it. All I ask is that you don't be a troll like some other "people" on this forum. However, from your above "son" comment, I already think I'm talking to a split personality.

if my post bothers you then don't read it or don't respond {like i said}

Your post doesn't "bother" me in the least. With that said, you should not expect what you write on this forum to go unchallenged all the time.
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

Please allow the Munchkin Man to interject, as the Munchkin Man already explained this in Post #15 of this thread.

Here is a key excerpt from Post #15:



The moral degradation of homosexual behavior is contagious, and even becomes more so, when society decides to sanction it as an acceptable alternative lifestyle. As a result, the moral fiber of a society which accepts such behavior becomes weakened.



America is also the greatest country in the world.

Unfortunately, this threatens to come to an end if Barack Obama is elected.

Munchkin Man

Be careful, Munchkin Man... You are beginning to sound an awful lot like Islam with your postings.
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

fucking rednecks and their gay marriages

you gotta love these guys spitting tobacco into eachothers mouths
 
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

All I ask is that you don't be a troll like some other "people" on this forum. However, from your above "son" comment, I already think I'm talking to a split personality.

Casper is definitely in the hizzy. . . .
 

gopherbob

EOG Dedicated
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

a lot of men that are against gay marriage are like senator craig from idaho.
he's against gay marriage because it'll cut into the pool of men that he likes to meet in public restrooms. also they fear if gay married couples moved into their neighborhoods, they might find themselves enjoying being the "pivot man" in a gay daisy chain.
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

a lot of men that are against gay marriage are like senator craig from idaho.
he's against gay marriage because it'll cut into the pool of men that he likes to meet in public restrooms. also they fear if gay married couples moved into their neighborhoods, they might find themselves enjoying being the "pivot man" in a gay daisy chain.

There is a name for the type of men you have described above.

They are called hypocrites.

The Munchkin Man does not approve of hypocrites.

Munchkin Man
 

DimeDR

Banned
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

:houra20k different kinds of ants taken on noah's ark, that is a lotta keen eye sight to match the sexes, that noah sure was an amazing zoologist:+clueless
 

ironmike67

EOG Senior Member
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

Yes homos have been around since day one so have been hypocrites . Who cares what two sexual degenerates do in their own bedroom. But we as society can and will say NO. We will not recognize your deviant behavior , as all civilizations have done since day one. Marriage is between one man and one woman.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Re: Gay Marriage Sucks!

What's the difference between letting two men marry and letting a man marry his goat?
 
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