Military Strike on Iran

Paul Joseph Watson

Friday, July 11, 2008
Israeli war minister Ehud Barak will visit Washington next week to meet with top U.S. government officials and President Bush in what some are suggesting will be the final planning session in anticipation of a military strike on Iran.
Barak will hold talks for three days with Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon - as well as U.S. President George Bush.​
Barak?s visit will also precede a tour by Israeli military chief of staff Lieutenant-General Gabi Ashkenazi, who is set to meet with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Michael Mullen.



The trip follows Mossad chief Meir Dagan?s visit to Washington during which he met top intelligence officials.​
?The visits of the Israeli officials came as an intense debate continued to rage inside the US administration between those who favored military action, led by Cheney, and those opposed, led by Gates,? according to a Jerusalem Post report.​
The talks arrive on the back of two missile tests on behalf of Iran, with a third rumored to have also just taken place.​
Far from showcasing Iran?s deadly capability, it appeared as if one of the tests actually went wrong.​
Defense analyst Mark Fitzpatrick of the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), studied photographs of the missile launches and came to the conclusion that they had been doctored.​
?It very much does appear that Iran doctored the photo to cover up what apparently was a misfiring of one of the missiles,? said Fitzpatrick.​
Responding to the tests, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said today that the limited range of Iranian missile technology, which is restricted to within 2,000 kilometers, proves there is no justification for a US missile defense shield to be installed in Europe.​
?The tests in Iran confirm that Iran has missiles with a range of up to 2,000 kilometers and confirm? that a missile defence shield with these parameters is not needed to monitor or react to such threats,? he said.​
Rhetoric about the Iranian threat, as well as a propaganda assault on behalf of the corporate media, has reached a crescendo over the last two weeks, but forecasts of military action have been plentiful for at least three years though have remained unfulfilled.​
 

OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
Re: Military Strike on Iran

Iraq was building a very nice reactor that could have enriched uranium into weapons grade material. It got blown to bits by our Jewish friends, after we said, why not? And Saddam was almost our pal back then. He bought tons of weapons from US. Do have any friends in Iran? I would not want to be working in that facility, it has a huge bullseye on it.

OF...:pop:
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Military Strike on Iran

Paul Joseph Watson

Friday, July 11, 2008
Israeli war minister Ehud Barak will visit Washington next week to meet with top U.S. government officials and President Bush in what some are suggesting will be the final planning session in anticipation of a military strike on Iran.

The Munchkin Man is waiting with baited breath to get this show on the road.

:pop:

If and when it does, the Munchkin Man would like to implore all of you to root for your home team, the USA!

Munchkin Man
 
Re: Military Strike on Iran

The Munchkin Man is waiting with baited breath to get this show on the road.

:pop:

If and when it does, the Munchkin Man would like to implore all of you to root for your home team, the USA!

Munchkin Man


Prison Planet <hr style="color: rgb(43, 41, 94);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --><!-- message --> Have we become a prison planet? We are all confined to this planet, there is no escape short of death. We are all subject to the rule of America and Israel, who's leaders act together as the warden of this prison, the military of these two countries act as the guards, neither the wardens nor the guards or the prisoners can leave the prison, they all live together on the prison grounds, yet they all live apart.

The wardens and the guards must live in a security area, anytime the wardens tour the prison outside of their of security areas they must be accompanied by the guards to insure against attack. The wardens and their guards have the most advanced weapons available, the inmates are allowed to have only primitive weapons, any violation of this rule will result in sanctions against the offenders.

The wardens oversee all prison activity, they use informants to insure they know about any unrest that has potential to threaten them, if any threats are discovered, be they real threats or not, the guards are dispensed to investigate and quell the threats, the guards have orders to use deadly force if warranted.

The wardens and guards and inmates all live together in the prison, and because of this arrangement they have to compete with each other for natural resources, no resources can be imported. The most prized resources are food and water, next would be fossil fuel for industry, transportation and heat, and lastly would be real estate, a place for their families to live and grow.
The first of the three resources, food and water, are still for the most part available to all and controlled by no one, no one in the prison is dying from starvation or dehydration for the time being, the second of the resources, fossil fuel, is abundant but is controlled tightly by its owners, the owners of these fuels differ, some owners are wardens, some owners are prisoners. The third resource, real estate is currently the most sought after resource, the wardens have and still are taking ground by force, this practice by the wardens creates unrest within the inmate population, you see some of the ground the wardens have taken by force from the inmates contains valuable resources, and the theft of this land threatens the very existence of the inmates that owned it.

The wardens use of force in taking the ground has left many inmates dead and wounded, it is the greed of wardens and their unwillingness to negotiate that has brought resentment and distrust to their door. The ultimate goal of the wardens is to control all three resources, thus giving the wardens total control of the prison, it is this attitude by wardens that will insure unrest and war for years to come
 
Re: Military Strike on Iran

who's the author? where's the link? didn't you say that was a rule?

Whether the warden is right or wrong in that article, [who really knows]
be glad that you're fortunate enough to live in the wardens secure area.
 

Spytheweb

EOG Addicted
Re: Military Strike on Iran

Americans better run on the banks, because if Israel attacks Iran and oil goes over $300, the US dollar nose dives, you won't be able to get your money out of the banks.
 
Re: Military Strike on Iran

Americans better run on the banks, because if Israel attacks Iran and oil goes over $300, the US dollar nose dives, you won't be able to get your money out of the banks.

If this happens, people like Nic, merlin, and munchkin will still say that Bush is doing a great job.
 

G. K. TEMUJIN

EOG Veteran
Re: Military Strike on Iran

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]The Last Adventure [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]Will Israel and / or the U.S. Attack Iran? [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]By URI AVNERY [/SIZE][/FONT]​
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=+3]I[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]F YOU want to understand the policy of a country, look at the map - as Napoleon recommended. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Anyone who wants to guess whether Israel and/or the United States are going to attack Iran should look at the map of the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Through this narrow waterway, only 34 km wide, pass the ships that carry between a fifth and a third of the world's oil, including that from Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]MOST OF the commentators who talk about the inevitable American and Israeli attack on Iran do not take account of this map.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]There is talk about a "sterile", a "surgical" air strike. The mighty air fleet of the United States will take off from the aircraft carriers already stationed in the Persian Gulf and the American air bases dispersed throughout the region and bomb all the nuclear sites of Iran - and on this happy occasion also bomb government institutions, army installations, industrial centers and anything else they might fancy. They will use bombs that can penetrate deep into the ground.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Simple, quick and elegant - one blow and bye-bye Iran, bye-bye ayatollahs, bye-bye Ahmadinejad. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]If Israel attacks alone, the blow will be more modest. The most the attackers can hope for is the destruction of the main nuclear sites and a safe return.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]I have a modest request: before you start, please look at the map once more, at the Strait named (probably) after the god of Zarathustra.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]THE INEVITABLE reaction to the bombing of Iran will be the blocking of this Strait. That should have been self-evident even without the explicit declaration by one of Iran's highest ranking generals a few days ago.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Iran dominates the whole length of the Strait. They can seal it hermetically with their missiles and artillery, both land based and naval.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]If that happens, the price of oil will skyrocket - far beyond the 200 dollars-per-barrel that pessimists dread now. That will cause a chain reaction: a world-wide depression, the collapse of whole industries and a catastrophic rise in unemployment in America, Europe and Japan.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]In order to avert this danger, the Americans would need to conquer parts of Iran - perhaps the whole of this large country. The US does not have at its disposal even a small part of the forces they would need. Practically all their land forces are tied down in Iraq and Afghanistan.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The mighty American navy is menacing Iran - but the moment the Strait is closed, it will itself resemble those model ships in bottles. Perhaps it is this danger that made the navy chiefs extricate the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln from the Persian Gulf this week, ostensibly because of the situation in Pakistan. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]This leaves the possibility that the US will act by proxy. Israel will attack, and this will not officially involve the US, which will deny any responsibility.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Indeed? [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Iran has already announced [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]that it would consider an Israeli attack as an American operation, and act as if it had been directly attacked by the US. That is logical.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]NO ISRAELI government would ever consider the possibility of starting such an operation without the explicit and unreserved agreement of the US. Such a confirmation will not be forthcoming.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]So what are all these exercises, which generate such dramatic headlines in the international media? [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The Israeli Air Force has held exercises at a distance of 1500 km from our shores. The Iranians have responded with test firings of their Shihab missiles, which have a similar range. Once, such activities were called "saber rattling", nowadays the preferred term is "psychological warfare". They are good for failed politicians with domestic needs, to divert attention, to scare citizens. They also make excellent television. But simple common sense tells us that whoever plans a surprise strike does not proclaim this from the rooftops. Menachem Begin did not stage public exercises before sending the bombers to destroy the Iraqi reactor, and even Ehud Olmert did not make a speech about his intention to bomb a mysterious building in Syria.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]SINCE KING Cyrus the Great, the founder of the Persian Empire some 2500 years ago, who allowed the Israelite exiles in Babylon to return to Jerusalem and build a temple there, Israeli-Persian relations have their ups and downs. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Until the Khomeini revolution, there was a close alliance between them. Israel trained the Shah's dreaded secret police ("Savak"). The Shah was a partner in the Eilat-Ashkelon oil pipeline which was designed to bypass the Suez Canal. (Iran is still trying to enforce payment for the oil it supplied then.)[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1] [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The Shah helped to infiltrate Israeli army officers into the Kurdish part of Iraq, where they assisted Mustafa Barzani's revolt against Saddam Hussein. That operation came to an end when the Shah betrayed the Iraqi Kurds and made a deal with Saddam. But Israeli-Iranian cooperation was almost restored after Saddam attacked Iran. In the course of that long and cruel war (1980-1988), Israel secretly supported the Iran of the ayatollahs. The Irangate affair was only a small part of that story. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]That did not prevent Ariel Sharon from planning to conquer Iran, as I have already disclosed in the past. When I was writing an in-depth article about him in 1981, after his appointment as Minister of Defense, he told me in confidence about this daring idea: after the death of Khomeini, Israel would forestall the Soviet Union in the race to Iran. The Israeli army would occupy Iran in a few days and turn the country over to the much slower Americans, who would have supplied Israel well in advance with large quantities of sophisticated arms for this express purpose.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]He also showed me the maps he intended to take with him to the annual strategic consultations in Washington. They looked very impressive. It seems, however, that the Americans were not so impressed.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]All this indicates that by itself, the idea of an Israeli military intervention in Iran is not so revolutionary. But a prior condition is close cooperation with the US. This will not be forthcoming, because the US would be the primary victim of the consequences.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]IRAN IS now a regional power. It makes no sense to deny that.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The irony of the matter is that for this they must thank their foremost benefactor in recent times: George W. Bush. If they had even a modicum of gratitude, they would erect a statue to him in Tehran's central square. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]For many generations, Iraq was the gatekeeper of the Arab region. It was the wall of the Arab world against the Persian Shiites. It should be remembered that during the Iraqi-Iranian war, Arab Shiite Iraqis fought with great enthusiasm against Persian Shiite Iranians.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]When President Bush invaded Iraq and destroyed it, he opened the whole region to the growing might of Iran. In future generations, historians will wonder about this action, which deserves a chapter to itself in "The March of Folly".[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Today it is already clear that the real American aim (as I have asserted in this column right from the beginning) was to take possession of the Caspian Sea/Persian Gulf oil region and station a permanent American garrison at its center. This aim was indeed achieved - the Americans are now talking about their forces remaining in Iraq "for a hundred years", and they are now busily engaged in dividing Iraq's huge oil reserves among the four or five giant American oil companies.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]But this war was started without wider strategic thinking and without looking at the geopolitical map. It was not decided who is the main enemy of the US in the region, neither was it clear where the main effort should be. The advantage of dominating Iraq may well be outweighed by the rise of Iran as a nuclear, military and political power that will overshadow America's allies in the Arab world.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]WHERE DO we Israelis stand in this game?[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]For years now, we have been bombarded by a propaganda campaign that depicts the Iranian nuclear effort as an existential threat to Israel. Forget the Palestinians, forget Hamas and Hizbullah, forget Syria - the sole danger that threatens the very existence of the State of Israel is the Iranian nuclear bomb.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]I repeat what I have said before: I am not prey to this existential Angst. True, life is more pleasant without an Iranian nuclear bomb, and Ahmadinejad is not very nice either. But if the worst comes to the worst, we will have a "balance of terror" between the two nations, much like the American-Soviet balance of terror that saved mankind from World War III, or the Indian-Pakistani balance of terror that provides a framework for a rapprochement between those two countries that hate each other's guts. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]ON THE basis of all these considerations, I dare to predict that there will be no military attack on Iran this year - not by the Americans, not by the Israelis.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]As I write these lines, a little red light turns on in my head. It is related to a memory: in my youth I was an avid reader of Vladimir Jabotinsky's weekly articles, which impressed me with their cold logic and clear style. In August 1939, Jabotinsky wrote an article in which he asserted categorically that no war would break out, in spite of all the rumors to the contrary. His reasoning: modern weapons are so terrible, that no country would dare to start a war. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]A few days later Germany invaded Poland, starting the most terrible war in human history (until now), which ended with the Americans dropping atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Since then, for 63 years, nobody has used nuclear weapons in a war.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]President Bush is about to end his career in disgrace. The same fate is waiting impatiently for Ehud Olmert. For politicians of this kind, it is easy to be tempted by a last adventure, a last chance for a decent place in history after all.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]All the same, I stick to my prognosis: it will not happen.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Uri Avnery is an Israeli journalist, member of Gush Shalom and contributor to The Politics of Anti-Semitism[/SIZE][/FONT]

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