Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
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yes
yes
CHOPTALK
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Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
You gotta be kidding.
Hes a stud.
You gotta be kidding.
Hes a stud.
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15th in OBP in NL..... He isnt bad at all
15th in OBP in NL..... He isnt bad at all
TomBrady#1
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Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
Youk is a good player. On pace for 110+ RBI's and fifth in the league.
His numbers are .314 15 HRS 63 RBI's in the non steriod years. Folks this ain't bad.
Youk is a good player. On pace for 110+ RBI's and fifth in the league.
His numbers are .314 15 HRS 63 RBI's in the non steriod years. Folks this ain't bad.
Flamingo kid
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When i saw he was at the allstar game, i was really concerned. I said to myself, "kevin Youkilis is an all star?" I guess you never know what can happen.
When i saw he was at the allstar game, i was really concerned. I said to myself, "kevin Youkilis is an all star?" I guess you never know what can happen.
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Why isn't Andruw Jones in the game? Dude got snubbed.
Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
let me preface by saying im not a red sox apologist. im not a member of the nation.
youkilis is hitting 315 avg with about 15hr and something like 63 rbi.. he is defensively above average and works counts (.380 obp).. he is consistently the toughest out on the bosox..
i think its easy to pick on him because his game isnt flashy, he doesnt have dreadlocks, and he wont hit any 500 ft homers, but all around he is a very good baseball player, and statistically, he is an obvious ALL STAR selection.
let me preface by saying im not a red sox apologist. im not a member of the nation.
youkilis is hitting 315 avg with about 15hr and something like 63 rbi.. he is defensively above average and works counts (.380 obp).. he is consistently the toughest out on the bosox..
i think its easy to pick on him because his game isnt flashy, he doesnt have dreadlocks, and he wont hit any 500 ft homers, but all around he is a very good baseball player, and statistically, he is an obvious ALL STAR selection.
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Didn't say he was bad. Just not an All-Star, much less a starter.
Flamingo kid
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It doesn't 'feel' right, regardless of statistics.
It doesn't 'feel' right, regardless of statistics.
TomBrady#1
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No doubt about it and well said. The guy is a damn good player and not to mention how versitile he is. The guy can play several positions, well. This guy is a huge asset to any team.
No doubt about it and well said. The guy is a damn good player and not to mention how versitile he is. The guy can play several positions, well. This guy is a huge asset to any team.
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2. And he's a below-average defensive 3B.
Flamingo kid
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Exactly. Its a popularity contest.
how good you are don't matter obviously in all cases. David Ortiz made the team and he hasn't done squat this season. He made it on popularity.
Exactly. Its a popularity contest.
how good you are don't matter obviously in all cases. David Ortiz made the team and he hasn't done squat this season. He made it on popularity.
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i hate to sound elitist here, but its a bunch of people who dont know baseball... results say he belongs.
thats because flash is all that matters to some people. the same reason jermaine dye isnt in the all star game every year.
i hate to sound elitist here, but its a bunch of people who dont know baseball... results say he belongs.
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Good point. That would explain Jeter starting at SS over Michael Young.
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says who? he has a reputation for a good glove all around. show me proof of this statement.
Flamingo kid
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That too. Jeter don't belong there either.
But, he does if you care about popularity.
That too. Jeter don't belong there either.
But, he does if you care about popularity.
TomBrady#1
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Derek Sanderson, I agree with you again. He has been superb lately at first and he did well filling in for Lowell earlier this year at 3rd. Nice when Lowell goes down and you can bring in Youk.
Derek Sanderson, I agree with you again. He has been superb lately at first and he did well filling in for Lowell earlier this year at 3rd. Nice when Lowell goes down and you can bring in Youk.
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This subject is Pandora's box. Pedroia had a terrific mid june to present, but we all know Ian Kinsler has brought it from Day 1, and his stats tower over the rest.
Justin Duscherer didnt even make the team, his stats are out of this world. I think the All Star Game should be the best players, not the biggest names. No offense, Griffey (who i love) has no business on the team,,, he is a 240 hitter.
This subject is Pandora's box. Pedroia had a terrific mid june to present, but we all know Ian Kinsler has brought it from Day 1, and his stats tower over the rest.
Justin Duscherer didnt even make the team, his stats are out of this world. I think the All Star Game should be the best players, not the biggest names. No offense, Griffey (who i love) has no business on the team,,, he is a 240 hitter.
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Yeah that was bad.. 2938u4ji23
Yeah that was bad.. 2938u4ji23
Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
He had that reputation when he was coming up in the minors as a 3B. I think that reputation no longer holds true, but that's just my opinion. His range at third is extremely limited. You can get away with giving him spot starts at third to give Lowell a day off on occasion, but he's not an adequate everyday third baseman, at least not defensively.
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Junior's not on the team (I would have loved to see him in this game).
Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
Youkilis much deserves the start over Manny if you want to get knitpicky
Journeyman
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The AL 1st baseman spot use to be loaded with freakin mashers! The guys that didn't even make the team would have played over Youk, easily.
This is not only weak it's mind-boggling and embarrassing.
The AL 1st baseman spot use to be loaded with freakin mashers! The guys that didn't even make the team would have played over Youk, easily.
This is not only weak it's mind-boggling and embarrassing.
Flamingo kid
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J MAN! :houra
J MAN! :houra
Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
yes they had more pop... but they certainly didnt hit for higher avg obp or rbis.. also their defense was worse.. but all you care about is the size of a bicep, and he isnt a specimen like those before.
TomBrady#1
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Jman, you just said NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING. Care to talk about facts and defend your case or you going to BS your way thru this? BTW Youk is not embarrassing at all.
This is 2008.
Jman, you just said NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING. Care to talk about facts and defend your case or you going to BS your way thru this? BTW Youk is not embarrassing at all.
This is 2008.
TomBrady#1
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Jman said nothing. He give no names. mentions previous years LOL...and then uses a few adjectives. Terrible terrible post.
Youk is a damn good player to anyone that knows baseball. This 2008.
Jman said nothing. He give no names. mentions previous years LOL...and then uses a few adjectives. Terrible terrible post.
Youk is a damn good player to anyone that knows baseball. This 2008.
Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
the only reason this is even an argument is youk's size and look. he isnt an overly appealing guy (he doesnt wear 12 wristbands, have a mullett, dreadlocks) and he isnt a large man.. he looks like he may be 5 10 or so... its all about the look, like the relentless poster said "popularity"... it silly stupid stuff.
TomBrady#1
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Right. Also the HR mentality. Everyone is looling for the big HR numbers too. He is 5th in the league in the all important RBI stat. His numbers in 2008 are more than respectable. TO say that Youk is embarrassing is really pathetic. Nothing short of pathetic.
Right. Also the HR mentality. Everyone is looling for the big HR numbers too. He is 5th in the league in the all important RBI stat. His numbers in 2008 are more than respectable. TO say that Youk is embarrassing is really pathetic. Nothing short of pathetic.
Journeyman
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Yeah well they score a lot more runs now...you know this Tom!
I expected more from you.
Yeah well they score a lot more runs now...you know this Tom!
I expected more from you.
TomBrady#1
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Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
Jman, I ignore some people who do not know about this stuff but you do. He is worthy. Very worthy. SOrry to snap but just enjoying the moment. Can't win with every post. Just the heat of the moment. On these topics you are usually money. It happens! No problem.
Jman, I ignore some people who do not know about this stuff but you do. He is worthy. Very worthy. SOrry to snap but just enjoying the moment. Can't win with every post. Just the heat of the moment. On these topics you are usually money. It happens! No problem.
Journeyman
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Re: Is Kevin Youkilis the worst starting 1st baseman in the history of the all-star game?
I'm not saying he's not worthy TOm, I'm saying the overall 1B all star level is way down.....waaaay down.
Shall I start naming names from the past?
Let me grab my 1983 Gillette ballots out, brb.
I'm not saying he's not worthy TOm, I'm saying the overall 1B all star level is way down.....waaaay down.
Shall I start naming names from the past?
Let me grab my 1983 Gillette ballots out, brb.