Obama-This years New England Patriots?

[Fictionman]

never can tell

 

[OSUCOWBOYS]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

Go get some +700 then. 91023i2ndw;l

 

[Flamingo kid]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

When was the last election where a guy who was +700 came in to win?

 

[spartacus]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

The poor folks jam the voting stadiums after waiting two hours before kick off, praying that the Messiah will throw a "Hail Mary" and pay off their mortgages.

The rich folks, Hollywood crowd and MSM, comfortable in the their million dollar suites, and having already forked out millions more on their favorite Celebrity QB, puff confidently on Cuban cigars and dream about all the favors they are going to receive when the Obama "Democrats" win a landslide victory over the McCain "Republicans."

However, the Obama ball control strategy goes awry as players and spectators alike wake up on game day sweating like pigs after suffering nightmares of their prize money being sucked away by the stadium "IRS" water vac.

Obama builds an early lead thanks to all the "po" folks who storm into the stadium without paying for a seat shouting "Yes, we Can", but early momentum falls as paying customers, not quite sure if the "Democrats" rookie QB is up to the job, see the price of tickets skyrocket.

McCain wins in a squeaker as the crowd lynches the referees for "fixing" the game.

 

[OSUCOWBOYS]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

This election will be over when they call Virginia for Obama.

That will be game, set, match.

 

[Fictionman]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

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<!-- start content --><TABLE class="infobox vevent" style="FONT-SIZE: 90%; WIDTH: 22em"><TBODY><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" colSpan=5>? 1944 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg 1952 ?</TD></TR><TR><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 140%; BACKGROUND: #ccf; TEXT-ALIGN: center" colSpan=5>United States presidential election, 1948
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" colSpan=5>November 2, 1948</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left width="10%"></TH><TH align=left width="10%"></TH><TH align=middle width="20%"></TH><TH align=middle width="20%"></TH><TH align=middle width="20%"></TH></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #3333ff 6px solid" align=middle></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ff3333 6px solid" align=middle></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ff7f00 6px solid" align=middle></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left colSpan=2>Nominee</TD><TD align=middle>Harry S. Truman</TD><TD align=middle>Thomas E. Dewey</TD><TD align=middle>Strom Thurmond</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" colSpan=2>Party</TD><TD align=middle>Democratic</TD><TD align=middle>Republican</TD><TD align=middle>Dixiecrat</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Home state</TD><TD align=middle>Missouri</TD><TD align=middle>New York</TD><TD align=middle>South Carolina</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Running mate</TD><TD align=middle>Alben W. Barkley</TD><TD align=middle>Earl Warren</TD><TD align=middle>Fielding L. Wright</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Electoral vote</TD><TD align=middle>303</TD><TD align=middle>189</TD><TD align=middle>39</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>States carried</TD><TD align=middle>28</TD><TD align=middle>16</TD><TD align=middle>4</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Popular vote</TD><TD align=middle>24,179,347</TD><TD align=middle>21,991,292</TD><TD align=middle>1,175,930</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Percentage</TD><TD align=middle>49.6%</TD><TD align=middle>45.1%</TD><TD align=middle>2.4%</TD></TR><TR><TD style="Template: {{{party4}}}/meta/color" align=middle></TD><TD style="Template: {{{party5}}}/meta/color" align=middle></TD><TD style="Template: {{{party6}}}/meta/color" align=middle></TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" colSpan=5>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ElectoralCollege1948.svg
<SMALL>Presidential election results map. Red denotes states won by Dewey/Warren, Blue denotes those won by Truman/Barkley, Orange denotes those won by Thurmond/Wright. Numbers indicate the number of electoral votes allotted to each state.</SMALL>
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Incumbent President
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Democratic​

President-Elect
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Democratic​

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The United States presidential election of 1948 is considered by most historians as the greatest election upset in American history. Virtually every prediction (with or without public opinion polls) indicated that incumbent President Harry S. Truman would be defeated by Republican Thomas E. Dewey. Truman won, overcoming a three-way split in his own party. Truman's surprise victory was the fifth consecutive win for the Democratic Party in a presidential election. Truman's election confirmed the Democratic Party's status as the nation's majority party, a status they would retain until the conservative realignment in 1968.

 

[PO69]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

We can only hope that Obama loses!

 

[wideopen21]

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<!-- start content --><table class="infobox vevent" style="font-size: 90%; width: 22em;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;" colspan="5">? 1944 1952 ?</td></tr><tr><td style="background: rgb(204, 204, 255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 140%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; text-align: center;" colspan="5">United States presidential election, 1948
</td></tr><tr><td style="text-align: center;" colspan="5">November 2, 1948</td></tr><tr><th align="left" width="10%"></th><th align="left" width="10%"></th><th align="middle" width="20%"></th><th align="middle" width="20%"></th><th align="middle" width="20%"></th></tr><tr><td colspan="2"></td><td style="border-bottom: 6px solid rgb(51, 51, 255);" align="middle"></td><td style="border-bottom: 6px solid rgb(255, 51, 51);" align="middle"></td><td style="border-bottom: 6px solid rgb(255, 127, 0);" align="middle"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" align="left">Nominee</td><td align="middle">Harry S. Truman</td><td align="middle">Thomas E. Dewey</td><td align="middle">Strom Thurmond</td></tr><tr><td style="text-align: left;" colspan="2">Party</td><td align="middle">Democratic</td><td align="middle">Republican</td><td align="middle">Dixiecrat</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">Home state</td><td align="middle">Missouri</td><td align="middle">New York</td><td align="middle">South Carolina</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">Running mate</td><td align="middle">Alben W. Barkley</td><td align="middle">Earl Warren</td><td align="middle">Fielding L. Wright</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">Electoral vote</td><td align="middle">303</td><td align="middle">189</td><td align="middle">39</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">States carried</td><td align="middle">28</td><td align="middle">16</td><td align="middle">4</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">Popular vote</td><td align="middle">24,179,347</td><td align="middle">21,991,292</td><td align="middle">1,175,930</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">Percentage</td><td align="middle">49.6%</td><td align="middle">45.1%</td><td align="middle">2.4%</td></tr><tr><td style="" align="middle"></td><td style="" align="middle"></td><td style="" align="middle"></td></tr><tr><td style="text-align: center;" colspan="5">
<small>Presidential election results map. Red denotes states won by Dewey/Warren, Blue denotes those won by Truman/Barkley, Orange denotes those won by Thurmond/Wright. Numbers indicate the number of electoral votes allotted to each state.</small>
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The United States presidential election of 1948 is considered by most historians as the greatest election upset in American history. Virtually every prediction (with or without public opinion polls) indicated that incumbent President Harry S. Truman would be defeated by Republican Thomas E. Dewey. Truman won, overcoming a three-way split in his own party. Truman's surprise victory was the fifth consecutive win for the Democratic Party in a presidential election. Truman's election confirmed the Democratic Party's status as the nation's majority party, a status they would retain until the conservative realignment in 1968.

It's funny that some people are clueless enough to think that polling from 1948 is in any way comparable to what we have today. People betting Obama at -700 or -800 or -900 are getting free money.

 

[HinesWard86]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

Will say this. In Florida, the rural counties are not waiting at all to vote. The large counties though are predicted to have 5-6 hour wait times and have had 3 hour wait times in early voting. McCain WILL pull the "upset" in Florida, but not in the election.

 

[Fictionman]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

It's funny that some people are clueless enough to think that polling from 1948 is in any way comparable to what we have today. People betting Obama at -700 or -800 or -900 are getting free money.

I thought Einstein was dead-but I will be damned,here he is posting in a forum.Surprised you can even spell clueless.

 

[Tesco Vee]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

maybe like the 2001 Patriots. Coming out of nowhere to win it all

 

[ACCC]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

Will say this. In Florida, the rural counties are not waiting at all to vote. The large counties though are predicted to have 5-6 hour wait times and have had 3 hour wait times in early voting. McCain WILL pull the "upset" in Florida, but not in the election.

The early voting has the same lines in some of the liberal Democratic areas also. The turnout might just be high across the board and I don't think this is indicative of a weakness in Florida for Obama.

 

[HinesWard86]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

The early voting has the same lines in some of the liberal Democratic areas also. The turnout might just be high across the board and I don't think this is indicative of a weakness in Florida for Obama.

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What I am saying is that I think in Democratic counties lines are going to be longer (and thus more people will be discouraged and not vote) than in rural Republican counties.

 

[wideopen21]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

I thought Einstein was dead-but I will be damned,here he is posting in a forum.Surprised you can even spell clueless.

Don't have to be Einstein to know what is going to happen on Tuesday. But it does take a special kind of stupid to compare this election to 1948.

 

[ACCC]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

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What I am saying is that I think in Democratic counties lines are going to be longer (and thus more people will be discouraged and not vote) than in rural Republican counties.

I see that now - I misread the first time. I do think that the long lines show that a lot of Florida voters are passionate about Obama (or at least they hate Bush and McCain's future continuation of Bush policies) and that they will come out and support him. I don't see McCain winning Florida at all.

 

[wideopen21]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

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What I am saying is that I think in Democratic counties lines are going to be longer (and thus more people will be discouraged and not vote) than in rural Republican counties.

Well if McCain is going to win florida he will have to do so from behind as early voting shows a big advantage for Democrats in Florida:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/752380.html

A huge increase in early voting has given Democrats a decided advantage over Republicans in Florida -- a major departure from statewide voting trends four years ago, according to a Miami Herald analysis of early and absentee ballots cast so far this year.
Through Thursday, Democrats cast 46 percent of the 3.4 million early and absentee votes in Florida, while Republicans cast 38 percent.
That's a big shift since 2004, when Democrats were outvoted 44 percent to 41 percent by Republicans in early and absentee ballots, according to a study of Florida voting data.

 

[HinesWard86]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

Not extremely surprising.

FWIW, I have talked to two prominent political scientists and both think McCain is going to win Florida.

 

[1eyejake]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

Just got + 300 on mccain at matchbook ( FLOR ) - still + 250 listed

 

[reanimator]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

It's all in the perception. Because polls say it one way means diddly. Last year Kerry had an even bigger lead on the day before--and the fool bit the dust like he deserved.

It's always the Democrats with big mouths and their pals the News anchors who give out erroneous information. And while loud-mouthed liberal degenerates and weirdos/hippies across the country spend all day running around making it appear the whole world's for Obama instead of working, REAL America awaits. When's the last time you saw a bunch of long-haired Republicans making big-mouthed fools of themselves infront of the cameras anyway?:+excited-

Conservatives just don't spend all their time whining and crowing like idiot liberals. They vote, and as much as Obama spearheaded ACORN to get all the street people and nobodys in the country to get out and vote because he knows these losers will vote for him, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if McCain wins. The American people aren't stupid. They know a war hero and a true American and country-lover when they see one. They also know a lying racist when they see one too.

 

[wideopen21]

Re: Obama-This years New England Patriots?

It's all in the perception. Because polls say it one way means diddly. Last year Kerry had an even bigger lead on the day before--and the fool bit the dust like he deserved.

Aside from that being totally incorrect, you make a great point. 2938u4ji23

From 2004: (note bush ahead in 5 out of 8 polls just before election)
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</td> <td colspan="9" width="601">Pollster Vote Projections</td></tr> <tr> <td width="29"> </td> <td valign="top" width="175"> DETAILS </td> <td align="left" valign="bottom" width="80">Survey</td> <td align="middle" valign="bottom" width="56">BUSH</td> <td align="middle" valign="bottom" width="56">KERRY</td> <td align="middle" valign="bottom" width="56">NADER</td> <td align="middle" valign="bottom" width="57">OTHER</td> <td align="middle" width="19"> </td> <td colspan="2" align="middle" valign="bottom" width="102">Margin</td></tr> <tr> <td width="29"> </td> <td width="175"> </td> <td align="left" width="80">Dates</td> <td align="middle" width="56">%</td> <td align="middle" width="56">%</td> <td align="middle" width="56">%</td> <td align="middle" width="57">%</td> <td align="middle" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" width="45">Bush</td> <td align="middle" width="57">Kerry</td></tr> <tr> <td width="29"> </td> <td width="175"> </td> <td width="80"> </td> <td width="56"> </td> <td width="56"> </td> <td width="56"> </td> <td width="57"> </td> <td width="19"> </td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="57"> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="29"> </td> <td width="175">Zogby</td> <td align="left" width="80">11/1-2</td> <td align="middle" width="56">49.4</td> <td align="middle" width="56">49.1</td> <td align="middle" width="56"> </td> <td align="middle" width="57"> </td> <td align="middle" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="45">0.3</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="57"> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="29"> </td> <td bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="175">Battleground: Tarrance (R) *</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="80">10/31 - 11/1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">51.2</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">47.8</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">0.5</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="57">0.5</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="45">3.4</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="57"> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="29"> </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="175">Battleground: Lake (D) **</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="80">10/31 - 11/1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56">48.6</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56">50.7</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="57"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="45"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="57">2.1</td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="29"> </td> <td bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="175">TIPP</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="80">10/30 - 11/1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">50.1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">48.0</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">1.1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="57">0.8</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="45">2.1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="57"> </td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="29"> </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="175">Harris</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="80">10/29 - 11/1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56">49</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56">48</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56">2</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="57">1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="45">1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="57"> </td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="29"> </td> <td bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="175">Democracy Corps (D)</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="80">10/29-31</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">48.7</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">49.5</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">0.6</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="57">1.0</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="45"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="57">0.8</td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="29"> </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="175">Gallup</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="80">10/29-31</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56">49</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56">49</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="56">1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="57">1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="45"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="57"> </td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="29"> </td> <td bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="175">Pew Research Center</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="80">10/27-30</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">51</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">48</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="56">1</td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="57"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="19"> </td> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" width="45">3</td></tr></tbody></table>
From 2008: (note Obama ahead in every poll
Polling Data

<table class="data"><tbody><tr><th class="noCenter">Poll</th><th class="date">Date</th><th>Sample</th><th>MoE</th><th>Obama (D)</th><th>McCain (R)</th><th class="spread">Spread</th></tr><tr class="rcpAvg"><td class="noCenter">RCP Average</td><td>10/27 - 11/01</td><td>--</td><td>--</td><td>50.7</td><td>44.3</td><td class="spread">Obama +6.4</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">CNN/Opinion Research</td><td>10/30 - 11/01</td><td>714 LV</td><td>3.5</td><td>53</td><td>46</td><td class="spread">Obama +7</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">Rasmussen Reports</td><td>10/30 - 11/01</td><td>3000 LV</td><td>2.0</td><td>51</td><td>46</td><td class="spread">Obama +5</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Gallup (Traditional)*</td><td>10/30 - 11/01</td><td>2503 LV</td><td>2.0</td><td>51</td><td>43</td><td class="spread">Obama +8</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">Gallup (Expanded)*</td><td>10/30 - 11/01</td><td>2475 LV</td><td>2.0</td><td>52</td><td>43</td><td class="spread">Obama +9</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Diageo/Hotline</td><td>10/30 - 11/01</td><td>882 LV</td><td>3.6</td><td>50</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">Obama +5</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby</td><td>10/30 - 11/01</td><td>1201 LV</td><td>2.9</td><td>50</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">Obama +6</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Pew Research</td><td>10/29 - 11/01</td><td>2587 LV</td><td>2.0</td><td>52</td><td>46</td><td class="spread">Obama +6</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">IBD/TIPP</td><td>10/29 - 11/01</td><td>844 LV</td><td>3.4</td><td>47</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">Obama +2</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">ABC News/Wash Post</td><td>10/29 - 11/01</td><td>2172 LV</td><td>2.5</td><td>54</td><td>43</td><td class="spread">Obama +11</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">CBS News</td><td>10/28 - 10/31</td><td>747 LV</td><td>--</td><td>54</td><td>41</td><td class="spread">Obama +13</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">GWU/Battleground</td><td>10/27 - 10/30</td><td>800 LV</td><td>3.5</td><td>49</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">Obama +4</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">Marist</td><td>10/29 - 10/29</td><td>543 LV</td><td>4.5</td><td>50</td><td>43</td><td class="spread">Obama +7</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">FOX News</td><td>10/28 - 10/29</td><td>924 LV</td><td>3.0</td><td>47</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">Obama +3</td></tr></tbody></table>