EOG plans for the future..

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 18, 2011

Rumors having me stepping down are inaccurate and here is the plan..JK and myself will be in Costa Rica in February to talk and implement some new ideas with regards to the forum...

If any of you care enough to vent or have some ideas about the forum, now is the time to communicate..post your ideas and suggestions and I promise everyone that each suggestion will be discussed..as they say, it is time to shit or get off the pot...

It is time that EOG moves forward and makes a serious attempt at improving our growth and adding new members...

One thing I can guarantee..our servers will be moving and located somewhere else...we are in the process of doing that right now...

The only thing I can't do is to stop all the drama..I can only promise to do things that I have control over, such as new advertisers, better contests, and forum changes...

I would love to hear some feedback so I can discuss all your ideas with Richard and his staff...thanks guys and gals...:cheers

BEANTOWNJIM · Jan 18, 2011

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TELL RICHARD TO FORGET ABOUT THE FORUM AND FIND A WAY TO SPEED UP HIS PAYOUTS AT BET PHOENIX.WAITING 3 WEEKS IS NOTHING SHORT OF SLOW PAYING AND STALLING 12io4j2w90

I DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A FORUM OWNER WHO OWNS A SPORTSBOOK BUT DOESNT HAVE THE TIME TO POST IN THE FORUM.I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE HEARD RICHARDS EXCUSE AS TO WHY MY WITHDRAWEL WASNT PROCESSED AND TAKEN OUT OF MY ACCOUNT BEFORE I LOST IT ALL BACK.THATS WAS A BULLSHIT MOVE AND RICHARD WAS NO WHERE TO BE FOUND :finger004

WHY SHOULD RICHARD OWN A FORUM BUT NOT BE AROUND RO ANSWER QUESTIONS TOTAL BULLSHIT A FORUM SHOULDNT BE OWNED BY A SPORTSBOOK.

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 18, 2011

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You really should shoot Richard an e-mail.....

FISHHEAD · Jan 18, 2011

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Seriously, why does BETPHOENIX take 14-17 days to get a check to valued customers?????

Why?
Why?
Why?

Tuckman · Jan 18, 2011

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Im sure if u shot Richard an email there might be a way to speed up the process, obviously the 3 weeks is steep, but he is the type to try and make someone happy with BP if there is anything he can possible do..People complaining and acting like EOG can fix this issue is crazy, they own us we dont own them so there is not much we can do about it here except try and help on each individual case if the poster would like it..We surely wont be able to change their policy at BP because posters dont like the rules, try contacting the man in charge and see what he will do for you to rectify the problem..

BigDaddy · Jan 18, 2011

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great to hear:cheers

steak tartar · Jan 18, 2011

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merge with SP

munson15 · Jan 18, 2011

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May as well ask them to take down/merge Skybook. The lines are identical in most cases, just juiced higher (I'm on -105 w/ BP) and Skybook's main claim to fame, the free 1/2 point, keeps getting jerked around anyway. It is rarely offered anymore, in the past any football bet not involving 3 and 7 were moved 1/2 point, which was a major selling point. The payout times are acceptable to me, I got paid according to terms and I'm fine with that. Thanks and have a good trip, Dino.12io4j2w90

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 18, 2011

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steak tartar said:
merge with SP

All of them would run over here for a 50 dollar free play...jajaja

(Please don't tell Whale)

FISHHEAD · Jan 18, 2011

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Hopefully not many changes..........great forum as is if one actually does gamble.

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 18, 2011

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Fishhead and others...what about posting plays in the subforums like the RX does and leaving the main forum open for sports and non-sports discussions...I know I took a stand when I came on board, but others have responded and have liked it the way the RX does it...

FISHHEAD · Jan 18, 2011

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Viejo Dinosaur said:
Fishhead and others...what about posting plays in the subforums like the RX does and leaving the main forum open for sports and non-sports discussions...I know I took a stand when I came on board, but others have responded and have liked it the way the RX does it...

The MAIN forum should always have posters posting plays and leans.............and enticing respected posters not to post plays in the main forum seems absurd to me.

I know a few respected posters are given the oppurtunity to post plays in the main forum at TheRX.

FISHHEAD · Jan 18, 2011

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Actually not the guy you should be asking, as much as I frequent the various forums(almost constantly some days), the vast majority of forum visitors use these forums for completely different reasons than me personally.

minet123 · Jan 18, 2011

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Ask Walker how much to use his pizza-points contest platform
If it isn't outrageous
let start using it for contest here and inter-forum challenges
It makes contest so much easier
They have let other private groups use it

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 18, 2011

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minet123 said:
Ask Walker how much to use his pizza-points contest platform
If it isn't outrageous
let start using it for contest here and inter-forum challenges
It makes contest so much easier
They have let other private groups use it

PM me with details...

Hitting the sack...hope to wake up to a few more ideas and suggestions....

WeinketoWarrick · Jan 18, 2011

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Nothing wrong with plays in the main forum. With so many forums, I don't have time to check out the sub-forums at all of them.

carolinakid · Jan 18, 2011

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I really think posting plays in the main forum now is the best way to go here at the eog.posting in the sub forums make a person to have to hunt for said games etc.imo posting all your plays in the main forum in one single post is the best at this time......just my opinion.ck

ProfaneReality · Jan 18, 2011

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Much like my Cleveland Indians... this place won't improve until it's sold. Owners seem to be cash strapped or unwilling to invest. Not much you can do. Money talks.

Saab · Jan 18, 2011

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not sure what you are looking for in a server but ive been looking at some offshore opportunities as well. you know where to find me if you want to talk

BigDaddy · Jan 18, 2011

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i knew it was just name the right price

Saab · Jan 18, 2011

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not sure what you mean, i just meant ive done some shopping around and if VD wants recommendations on hosts I could make a few.

FISHHEAD · Jan 18, 2011

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PAY JJGOLD 5,000 a month and in 4 months or less EOG will have one of the busiest gaming forums in the world.

BigDaddy · Jan 18, 2011

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Saab said:
not sure what you mean, i just meant ive done some shopping around and if VD wants recommendations on hosts I could make a few.

is it true you are behind all the attacks

are you the russian everyone talks about?

BigDaddy · Jan 18, 2011

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FISHHEAD said:
PAY JJGOLD 5,000 a month and in 4 months or less EOG will have one of the busiest gaming forums in the world.

sad to say but that is most likely 100% true

railbird · Jan 18, 2011

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Viejo Dinosaur said:
Fishhead and others...what about posting plays in the subforums like the RX does and leaving the main forum open for sports and non-sports discussions...I know I took a stand when I came on board, but others have responded and have liked it the way the RX does it...

rx is dogshit, this place was also dogshit until shrink died.

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 18, 2011

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railbird said:
rx is dogshit, this place was also dogshit until shrink died.

This coming from an ex paid poster at the RX...

BigDaddy · Jan 18, 2011

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Viejo Dinosaur said:
This coming from an ex paid poster at the RX...

thats what happens for 99.9% of the paid posters/mods when the money stops flowing

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 18, 2011

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What about a chat room? any comments?

FISHHEAD · Jan 18, 2011

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Viejo Dinosaur said:
What about a chat room? any comments?

Not needed

Willy Loman · Jan 18, 2011

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A free buffet would be nice.

KingRevolver · Jan 18, 2011

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FISHHEAD · Jan 18, 2011

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:LMAO

WeinketoWarrick · Jan 18, 2011

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Paying any poster 5k a month to post would be asinine.

No chat room is necessary.

Bringing in contest software would be good. Covers and SBR both have that long-since figured out.

Way more critical analysis and breakdown of sportsbooks. Absolutely no reason places like Oddsmaker/Hollywood/Revolution/etc. should be promoted as better options for players than BetJam/5dimes/etc. (even Phoenix). Easily accessible write-ups (NOT promotions) of all known sportsbooks should be available for everybody.

BEANTOWNJIM · Jan 18, 2011

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PAID POSTERS RUIN FORUMS THEY SIT AROUND ALL DAY LONG STARTING USELESS THREADS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO KEEP TALKING TO EARN THE MONEY.

EVERYBODY CAN SPOT A PAID POSTER THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WONT SHUT UP :LMAO

YOU NEED LESS PAID POSTERS AND MORE REAL GAMBLERS

PLEASE DONT BRING JJGOLD OVER HERE WE DONT NEED AN AFTER SCHOOL DAY CARE CENTER

steak tartar · Jan 18, 2011

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KingRevolver said:

lol

Almost Allright · Jan 19, 2011

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Eog doesn't need to bring in anyone. Kinger works his ass off.

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 19, 2011

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We need some new fresh ideas and new posters...anything related to advertising would be a help also....need to bring in lurking posters also....

jfhst18 · Jan 19, 2011

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EOG’s distinctive advantage is “Winning Wednesdays. Instead of having 300 listeners it should have 3000. If it did, forum growth would follow. The show is fine, it would be a better draw product, though, if it had show notes written up and put on an RSS feed, John’s blog directly tied to it, and a more organized way of keeping the themes of the show alive as forum threads. All this should be integrated into EOG itself instead of sending one-way traffic off to TalkZone. Systematic outreach needs to be done to relevant bloggers and non-gaming sports forums seeking link and guest post exchanges, their needs to be a media room and media contact person to leverage John’s spokesman capacities, and “Winning Wednesdays” itself should be a bit more focused on the offshore part of offshore gambling.

Most importantly, if BP is going to openly own the site they need to have an active presence on it—and become much more skilled at dealing with the constant resentment their presence is going to inevitably inspire. Having people bitch is a good thing. They want engagement. They’re looking for relationship. No need to smooth over anything. If it’s going to take four weeks to get a payment out, then be loud and proud about it and when someone says “that’s unacceptable” tell them to go lay -110 at Bookmaker and pay the $100 for a withdrawal. If someone is bitching about a rollover, they should post the rule on their site—or change their CS policies to make sure that people given big bonuses fully understand rollovers, and even click agreement to a clearly stated explanation of them. If they need to toss a guy who’s beating their brains out by only betting college totals and sweet heart teasers and that guy complains on the forum—they should own what they did and why and tip their hat to the guy and say he’s only the third guy they’ve had to hide from this year (whatever the number is).

Summary: BP has a competitive product. That means they don’t have to shade anything to get customers. But they still want to market and advertise with boobs and bonuses and gesture at CS by saying “email Richard.” Forums are crappy tools for advertising and marketing. Forums are good for engagement, but that takes a commitment to transparency. Until the BP owner figures that out, and it would take a radical change of perspective, EOG has no shot to do anything but survive.

Viejo Dinosaur · Jan 19, 2011

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Thanks jhfst18....excellent points...

WeinketoWarrick · Jan 19, 2011

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Well, I think better contests and contest software along with relatively unbiased critical write-ups of major sportsbooks would help bring posters in. That's what got me to stick at SBR.

Regarding ads...Phoenix puts on a $10,000 march madness contest...send out fliers like they do with their Xmas freeplays saying "come participate in our contest at eog for a chance at xx money...no entry fee, pays real cash". That'd bring in a flood of people.

Ghost at other forums and casually promote Eog as viable 'option across the street' to those unaware of its existence.

Email lists?

Get Richard to skydive to midfield during the Super Bowl with an Eog parachute.

Plenty of ideas out there, just a matter of whether the one paying for it thinks its worth the investment.

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