We want to welcome BetOnSports.com to EOG.com

[RPM]

BP,

ok. my mistake then. if you go back and read the thread, i think you will find that it appears you are talking about sleeper holds post to me.

i edited my post. no hard feelings.

 

[peteep]

I would have felt fine playing at BOS or Mill before they advertised here. I don't think it is a big deal that they are taking them on as an advertiser, other than it is very contradictory. But I don't think it puts the players at risk. The forum business isn't about making friends, it's about making money.

 

[Cobbler]

Major/Sleeper Hold:
As facts change, so do opinions. On those rare instances when you are out driving under the legal limit, do you ever see a sign saying "UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT"? What does that sign mean?

Shrink made a laundry list of reasons why he is taking BOS on. How about attacking that laundry list, instead of dredging up old posts written when the facts were different? Seriously dude...if you have a problem with BOS today, let's hear the reasoning.

Otherwise you just sound like a bitter old hag pissed that she ain't getting none.

 

[coconutman]

Major/Sleeper Hold:
As facts change, so do opinions. On those rare instances when you are out driving under the legal limit, do you ever see a sign saying "UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT"? What does that sign mean?

Shrink made a laundry list of reasons why he is taking BOS on. How about attacking that laundry list, instead of dredging up old posts written when the facts were different? Seriously dude...if you have a problem with BOS today, let's hear the reasoning.

Otherwise you just sound like a bitter old hag pissed that she ain't getting none.

Good fucken post man.


Btw, Shrink posts on the forum too much for his own good. Sad but true.

 

[panther]

guys

guys

the only thing I can say is

I have played with this book before

have been payed my this book before

if ken , eog and the rx are willing to support them

they must be good now

have a great evening

good luck

panther

 

[Caliente]

i finally agree with Peteep."the forums arent meant for making friends, theyre here for making money". So true. one thing I have learned about the people here is that posters only care about themselves. They could care less if someone was stiffed by a book in the past. If that stiff book is now solid and is offering a bonus then posters will sign up no problem.

 

[THE SHRINK]

i trust the shrink and general pete. if they say bet on sports and milenium are ok, then i will play there. i have no doubt that part of reason to take these books was money but i dont think any amount of money could buy these guys if they thought it meant players would get stiffed.

thank you tony,

That means a lot to me...

THE SHRINK

 

[JRock7997]

I'd also like to officially welcome BET ON SPORTS as well as MILLENIUM. It's been a long time coming; for I had been one of BOS'S harshest critics in the PAST...

However, there were several factors that persuaded me to accept them here with the other hand chosen sports books I consider to be amongst the ELITE in this industry...

Being a PUBLICALLY TRADED COMPANY does not necessarily lend its name to HONOR, INTEGRITY or SOLVENCY as we only have to look at what happened to ENRON. However, it's certainly one layer of protection because when managed properly, a publicly traded company has to report to its Board of Directors and shareholders.

BET ON SPORTS does exactly that...

There are several MAIN reasons why I have a change of heart (besides the fact that they did pay to be on here, like everyone else).

1-I am now 100% certain that GARY KAPLAN & NORM (TOM MILLER) are no longer involved with BET ON SPORTS & MILLENIUM respectively IN ANY CAPACITY...

2-The NEW MANAGEMENT of BOS has gone out of their way to answer any questions I asked of them. (I am also working behind the scenes to help straighten up some of the MESS that the OLD MANAGEMENT under Gary K, left behind them)...

3-There have been ZERO complaints sent to EOG since our inception...

4-They have agreed to allow either the General or myself intervene on behalf of ANY player who has a dispute, period...

5-I have an account with them and several of my Friends do too. ALL of us have been much happier since the change in management took place...

Does this excuse or exonerate what happened under the OLD FLAGSHIP?

I think NOT.....

But, I feel confident that if you give BOS or MILLENIUM a shot, you will be satisfied and notice a change...

THE SHRINK

Shrink, please start drinking again. This is almost to much to take.

 

[THE SHRINK]

the only thing I can say is

I have played with this book before

have been payed my this book before

if ken , eog and the rx are willing to support them

they must be good now

have a great evening

good luck

panther

And thank you Panther...

 

[THE SHRINK]

Shrink, please start drinking again. This is almost to much to take.

JRock,

I've been tempted to do so, but I haven't and don't plan on it...

However, as Joe pointed out (who has known me longer than most), my problems were mainly with the previous owners of BOTH BOS & MILLENIUM...

They are gone...

BOS can be trusted, and if I can BET with them, why can't you?

P.S.

I'll even back them for you with my own money sir...

 

[BEANTOWNJIM]

SHRINK YOU CLAIM TOM MILLER IS NO LONGER INVOLVED WELL WHERE IS HE HE HAS BEEN IN THE BUSINESS SINCE I STARTED OFFSHORE I DOUBT THIS F-CKING GUY KNOWS ANYTHING ELSE BUT BOOKMAKING.WHY DO I GET THE FEELING TOM MILLER IS STILL IN CHARGE BEHIND THE SCENE WHO IS THE NEW MANAGEMENT TEAN ANYBODY WE KNOW.

SHRINK I DONT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR SPORTSBOOKS I JUST GO WITH MY GUT INSTINCTS WHEN IT COMES TO CHOOSING A BOOK I STAY WITH THE BIG BOYS.

BET JAMAICA
CASCADE
TRIPLE CROWN
5 DIMES
PINNACLE

I GAMBLE ON THE GAMES NOT THE SPORTSBOOKS I ONLY PLAY WITH THE QUALITY SHOPS I AM DONE WITH THE 2ND TIER SHOPS.

 

[kosar]

As facts change, so do opinions. On those rare instances when you are out driving under the legal limit, do you ever see a sign saying "UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT"? What does that sign mean?

Hey 'Cobbler', did BOS management change in the last ten days? As in, the last time Shrink railed on about BOS? I didn't think so.

He saw some money and took it. Hopefully this puts an end to his lectures, but I tend to doubt it. Arrogance is hard to shake for this hypocrite.

 

[Mr. Leisure]

How many people in the same situation wouldn`t take them as an advertiser.Its a business plain and simple which isn`t a bad thing:+cool-1+

 

[THE SHRINK]

Tom Miller sold hs remaining interest in the company. Try calling over there and let me know if you get a hold of him...

I miss him...:hung

 

[JRock7997]

JRock,

I've been tempted to do so, but I haven't and don't plan on it...

However, as Joe pointed out (who has known me longer than most), my problems were mainly with the previous owners of BOTH BOS & MILLENIUM...

They are gone...

BOS can be trusted, and if I can BET with them, why can't you?

P.S.

I'll even back them for you with my own money sir...

I am still a newbie to this business, but have played at Millenium before. Didnt really care for them, but it wasnt a big deal.

My problems, and why I am upset is that you said one think and did another. Are you really looking out for us?

 

[JRock7997]

for christ sake....10 days ago you were singing a different tune

 

[BEANTOWNJIM]

10 DAYS AGO THE OFFER WASNT ENOUGH THEN BOS SWEETENED THE POT AND OUR LITTLE SHRINK HAD TO ACCEPT HAVE YOU EVER KNOWN A JEWISH GUY TO TURN DOWN A BUCK UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE LETS CUT THE SHIT HERE ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.:+money-8+ I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS A PAID SPONSOR IS ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THE LAST SAY IN ANY DISPUTE BECAUSE THE FORUM WILL ALWAYS SIDE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING THEM THIS IS A FACT.

 

[Blacklab]

I am still a newbie to this business, but have played at Millenium before. Didnt really care for them, but it wasnt a big deal.

My problems, and why I am upset is that you said one think and did another. Are you really looking out for us?

Don't understand the move as well.......I respect you Ken,just really don't understand the move......


Good thing is,I don't play there,or royal,so don't have to worry about all this shit.Too much drama for me.I'm just gonna stay outta these threads and stick to sporstbetting,hoopefully this all resolves itself.

 

[Jimmy Hoffa]

As I watch this hockey game I am alerted to the irony in all of this...

Here's a Chevrolet commercial during the hockey game and I'm watching it. I think Chevrolets are shit and I'll never buy one. That doesn't mean that I'm going to change the the channel and watch something else, I'm enjoying the hockey game.

Here are BOS and Millenium commericals while I'm reading and posting at EOG. I think BOS and Millenium are shit and I'll never post up there. That doesn't mean that I'm going to change the web site and read something else, I'm enjoying EOG.

 

[THE SHRINK]

Last post in this thread for tonight...

10 days ago I did not know that BOTH of the PREVIOUS OWNERS were COMPLETELY GONE!

THE SHRINK

 

[JRock7997]

Last post in this thread for tonight...

10 days ago I did not know that BOTH of the PREVIOUS OWNERS were COMPLETELY GONE!

THE SHRINK

Thank you for answering this question, frustrating, but still its an answer.

 

[Caliente]

i know Im not very liked here and thats fine. ive noticed that in every other one of BEANTOWNJIMS posts he spews his hate for Jews. I can put up with just about everything but this racist shit is something I despise. If this were my forum i wouldnt even take a poll. i would cut him off immediately. I know Shrink is jewish and I hope he is a proud Jew. get this punk off your site Ken. You have an obligation as a JEW my friend!

 

[Cobbler]

Hey 'Cobbler', did BOS management change in the last ten days? As in, the last time Shrink railed on about BOS? I didn't think so.

He saw some money and took it. Hopefully this puts an end to his lectures, but I tend to doubt it. Arrogance is hard to shake for this hypocrite.

Shrink says his knowledge of the facts changed. If you don't believe him, call him a liar. That would make more sense.

I could go on and wonder what type of clown gives a rat's ass if an internet persona acts arrogant, but that would be petty. Petty is your catagory, not mine.

 

[The General]

One thing for certain is that if you have a problem with our sponsors, we will help you in any way possible. As long as I am here you have my word.

We are not here to hurt anyone. Not any sports book, not any competitor and most certainly Not any player.

 

[Chuck Sims]

This quote is taken from "Tom Miller". Seems he knew the SHRINK too well.

"As for the Shrink and his new site, I hope it rots in hell, along with him, and none of these companies (BOS family) will EVER perpetuate his deception. I now firmly believe that the RX has fully expunged itself of the deceit that the Shrink carried, and I hope you all now realize that this site(The RX) truly belongs to all of the posters since the Shrink has crawled under another rug. Those that decide to stray to the Shrink’s future endeavors are those that wish to be manipulated by his deceit"

 

[Caliente]

Does anyone wonder why they are trying to abolish off shore gambling? With the likes of ROYAL,BETUS/OMNI, ROBERTO FROM TOW, RAIDER, AND OF, YOU CANT BLAME THEM.

 

[docdekay]

LMFAO

This is just par for the course.

Everyone looks out for everyone else's best interests until it conflicts with their own pockets.

If SBG paid the right price they'd be flying up top.

I think the biggest problem with half of these site owners is that they run their mouths to no end saying they would never do this that and the third. Sure enough, they change their tune rather quickly when someone shoves money in front of their face. Best to just shut the fuck up from the get-go instead of potentially painting yourself into a corner.

They basically set themselves up to be called hypocrites.

Duh.

Think Osama Bin Laden wearing a yarmulka spinning a dradle.

 

[Jimmy Hoffa]

Does anyone wonder why they are trying to abolish off shore gambling? With the likes of ROYAL,BETUS/OMNI, ROBERTO FROM TOW, RAIDER, AND OF, YOU CANT BLAME THEM.

David your posts don't bother me and they never have. Calling out books for shady behavior is just fine with me. Maybe your frequency is a bit much and the lie detecter episode was embarrassing but I believe your message is noble. I am all for the players.

In reality, whatever sponsers are here doesn't really matter. The players who do their math know that all you need is Pinnacle and Matchbook. Bonuses are for whores. Play reduced juice.

 

[Chuck Sims]

Posted by the SHRINK himself last month:

"Anyone wth half a brain should know I don't need BOS'S business bad enough to compromise the INTEGRITY of this site...

Otherwise, ROYAL, BETUS and some others would be on EOG too, but hey, they aren't...

Hmmmmm.....

THE SHRINK"

How long before BetUS and the others show up?

 

[Toothpick]

Posted by the SHRINK himself last month:

"Anyone wth half a brain should know I don't need BOS'S business bad enough to compromise the INTEGRITY of this site...

Otherwise, ROYAL, BETUS and some others would be on EOG too, but hey, they aren't...

Hmmmmm.....

THE SHRINK"

How long before BetUS and the others show up?

Very strange comments considering the circumstances that have evolved recently.

 

[Caliente]

I THOUGHT IDENTITY SAID I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y WAS ALL WE HAVE!

 

[Chuck Sims]

Another qoute from the SHRINK:

"I, for one, can look in the mirror each day, knowing that every sports book that we accepted AD REVENUE from is amongst the VERY BEST that this industry has to offer...

Am I GREEDY because I didn't see EYE TO EYE with the current management at THERX?

Am I GREEDY because there isn't a snowball's chance in HELL that BOS or ROYAL would ever have reappeared on a site that I managed?

Am I GREEDY fo refunding MIllenium back their money due to it's affiliation with BOS?

NO ONE can DISPUTE the HIGH LEVEL of QUALITY found amongst ALL of our sports books on EOG, period...

Can RX or MW say this, too?"... No, but neither can you.

 

[Rinkrat]

As I watch this hockey game I am alerted to the irony in all of this...

Here's a Chevrolet commercial during the hockey game and I'm watching it. I think Chevrolets are shit and I'll never buy one. That doesn't mean that I'm going to change the the channel and watch something else, I'm enjoying the hockey game.

Here are BOS and Millenium commericals while I'm reading and posting at EOG. I think BOS and Millenium are shit and I'll never post up there. That doesn't mean that I'm going to change the web site and read something else, I'm enjoying EOG.

More Classic Hoffa!

Let me know Jimmy when you go on vacation and I'll run "the best of Hoffa" responses in your absence!

 

[Glaken]

As I watch this hockey game I am alerted to the irony in all of this...

Here's a Chevrolet commercial during the hockey game and I'm watching it. I think Chevrolets are shit and I'll never buy one. That doesn't mean that I'm going to change the the channel and watch something else, I'm enjoying the hockey game.

Here are BOS and Millenium commericals while I'm reading and posting at EOG. I think BOS and Millenium are shit and I'll never post up there. That doesn't mean that I'm going to change the web site and read something else, I'm enjoying EOG.

Thanks Jimmy excellent post .... Glad you are sticking around

I am willing to give them a chance :+thumbs-2

 

[Chuck Sims]

Hoffa quote: "I think BOS and Millenium are shit and I'll never post up there."

I agree, excellent post by respected Jimmy Hoffa. :+thumbs-2

 

[Chuck Sims]

Four months ago, SHRINK posted this:

"The purpose of my post is to WARN gamblers who bet offshore to be CAREFUL before sending money to BOS/MILLENIUM."

 

[SCI]

I find it odd that BOS would want to advertise here after the constant drubbing they took esculaded by the Shrink himself the last couple of months, new management or not. I guess whoever runs the show at BOS doesn't read the forums.

Bad publicity is still publicity one way or another I suppose.

If someone googled BOS, they would probably find a post here with the site owner ripping them to shreds anyway, so what's the point? :+signs8-1

If I was a new member of this forum today and had an interest in posting up at BOS, after reading the forums I would be mightly confused..

 

[JRock7997]

If I was a new member of this forum today and had an interest in posting up at BOS, after reading the forums I would be mightly confused..

Good line here,

Yours truly,
Confused

 

[world traveler]

I find it odd that BOS would want to advertise here after the constant drubbing they took esculaded by the Shrink himself the last couple of months, new management or not. I guess whoever runs the show at BOS doesn't read the forums.

Bad publicity is still publicity one way or another I suppose.

If someone googled BOS, they would probably find a post here with the site owner ripping them to shreds anyway, so what's the point? :+signs8-1

If I was a new member of this forum today and had an interest in posting up at BOS, after reading the forums I would be mightly confused..

i would say the only reason that BOS chose to hang a banner here is because they are publicly traded and they need to purge their past image. I cant see them making alot of $$ out of posters here. Most posters here have been around long enough to know the risk of playing at BOS. New management or not the risk management is exactly the same, win more than 6 plays in a row and you are out on your ass. To be fair with your $$ in hand but out on your ass none the less. Shrinks decision to take on BOS was made along time ago, he waited to see what kind of heat that the Rx would get buy hanging this books banner. He was one of the major voices showing his disgust. Well now we know he was merely testing the waters to see how us minnows would act.
Shrink you mentioned that you had lost 20K on this site which i personally feel hard to believe but as i am not your accountant i will give you the benefit of the doubt. If in fact you are spending more than 20k to run this place then you need help. Building this web page cant have cost you more the 2k renting this software is very reasonable also i am sure. Hosting for this place cant cost you more than 1500 per month, your staff all seem to work for the good of man and not for $$ so where does all of the thousands that you charge go exactly???????

 

[JMan-Shill]

I use to post at rx back in 2001 2002, and left because of the shrink and his never ending circus of shit. once again, he has lied to everyone. his site has not done well, so whats he do, he goes out and takes whatever he can get his hands on to keep it going shelf life of anyone who has not been screwed by him is about 2 years .