I'm not fighting with anyone, I just take issue with someone saying I don't know any better for wishing someone luck, someone who I've never had any problem with, someone who's always treated me with respect, and someone who's opinions I value. Obviously Game feels different toward Drink than I do, that's fine, he's entitled to his opinion just like I am, just don't say I don't know any better like I'm some fucking squareKane and game. Please stop , both you guys are very intelligent gamblers who I respect tremendously. Hate seeing two sharp minds fighting .
We’ll see how drink does at end of season.
Game, Don't talk about me like I'm some clueless newbie, I've never had any issue with Drink, he's answered any questions I've posed to him and always treated me with respect in the handful of interactions we've had. "Save your BS for those like Kane, who don't know any better". GTFOH with that, all I did was wish someone the best of luck, you don't like the guy, so be it, but don't say I don't know any better, that's fucking bullshit
Now i've heard it all.Kane and game. Please stop , both you guys are very intelligent gamblers who I respect tremendously. Hate seeing two sharp minds fighting .
We’ll see how drink does at end of season.
there is a lack of transparency on their ytd record, they promote there winning days and ignore season long losing.Sorry for any offense.
I don’t know the guy but when people tell me who they are through their actions, I fucking believe them.
Here’s what little I know about their actions:
They are front-running clients and letting misinformative articles remain misinformative even when the misinformation is pointed out to them.
Why?
Because they don’t fucking care and yet this silly dude is coming in here talking about changing the game. Ain’t a damn thing changed w/ these guys, they are mostly all the same.
I know very few pros and I know even less about how they make their $. Perhaps I am trapped in my own echo chamber but when we communicate, we’re not sharing edges or angles or any of that shit; all that is never spoken about, it’s like an unwritten rule that you don’t pry into another man’s edge. These fucking guys are advertising it to the world?
Which brings me to this:
A Monkey doesn’t sell bananas.
Exceptional Tipsters are the exception, not the rule. A good rule of thumb is that you want the picks of the guys who don’t want your money because they don’t want to compromise their edge. I’m sure you can subscribe to some Tipsters and still make $ but like I said, they are the rare exception.
Why can’t these guys just be honest and say, “What I do is hard and I could use the financial aid and insurance that Tipster Subscription fees provide.”
Instead, they want to go w/ these cock-and-bull stories about how good they are and how they bet their own picks and win x% of the time, etc…
Anyone with a clue will be like; how the fuck is you, betting the picks that you give me, helping me? Why do I care about your win rate when win rate has no correlation w/ profitability?
It’s obvious that they are pushing these silly talking points in order to SELL, not change the game, but to SELL.
So pardon me when I take some offense to this clown taking a piss on all of us in here and telling us it is raining.
Drink can go right ahead and sell his silly Tips but don’t try to sell me on being some paradigm-changing Tipster or whatever the fuck he is trying to pull off cause I’m going to pull his card on that shit; it’s what I do.
there is a lack of transparency on their ytd record, they promote there winning days and ignore season long losing.
All the people dumping on Drink in this thread have not contributed 10% of the value he has brought in here over the last 3 season and he has never asked for anything in return. Stop bitching, you have a choice, buy the picks or pass, just stop shitting on the reputation of the guy that grinds this for a living and has offered his expertise no questioned asked.
Railbird - you sell picks, can we see a transparent record of your picks over the last 2 seasons? Who's tracking you and what's the bottom line? I'm betting you have no idea.
GameBread - You're the trader that doesn't share trade secrets because your kimono is not big enough to hide any secrets. You suck on LeBron's dick all NBA season long and if you don't do that, you find a cool MMA nickname and wave that as if you're a brilliant expert in the field... but you've already told us that you only trade one market, so maybe you're not the expert you think you are.
Gabe - Just because you failed at being a tout, doesn't mean everyone should too. And that's the nicest thing I will say.
All the people dumping on Drink in this thread have not contributed 10% of the value he has brought in here over the last 3 season and he has never asked for anything in return. Stop bitching, you have a choice, buy the picks or pass, just stop shitting on the reputation of the guy that grinds this for a living and has offered his expertise no questioned asked.
Railbird - you sell picks, can we see a transparent record of your picks over the last 2 seasons? Who's tracking you and what's the bottom line? I'm betting you have no idea.
GameBread - You're the trader that doesn't share trade secrets because your kimono is not big enough to hide any secrets. You suck on LeBron's dick all NBA season long and if you don't do that, you find a cool MMA nickname and wave that as if you're a brilliant expert in the field... but you've already told us that you only trade one market, so maybe you're not the expert you think you are.
Gabe - Just because you failed at being a tout, doesn't mean everyone should too. And that's the nicest thing I will say.
How many units are 700+ hours of work worth GameBred?
50 hours a week, 14 weeks of college football. Plus the offseason prep so 700 is conservative. Probably more like 1000 hours.
Drink never fooled me. Some are fooled because he knows every players name but that by no means translates into profit.
Pinnacle had an article about it
https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting...ogy/the-green-lumber-fallacy/TYT2NELCFV3685XA
All the people dumping on Drink in this thread have not contributed 10% of the value he has brought in here over the last 3 season and he has never asked for anything in return. Stop bitching, you have a choice, buy the picks or pass, just stop shitting on the reputation of the guy that grinds this for a living and has offered his expertise no questioned asked.
Railbird - you sell picks, can we see a transparent record of your picks over the last 2 seasons? Who's tracking you and what's the bottom line? I'm betting you have no idea.
GameBread - You're the trader that doesn't share trade secrets because your kimono is not big enough to hide any secrets. You suck on LeBron's dick all NBA season long and if you don't do that, you find a cool MMA nickname and wave that as if you're a brilliant expert in the field... but you've already told us that you only trade one market, so maybe you're not the expert you think you are.
Gabe - Just because you failed at being a tout, doesn't mean everyone should too. And that's the nicest thing I will say.
I didn't dump on drink, It was more whoever the record keeper is at bettor iq. I do think like most leftists drink is too emotionally fragile to handle any scent of any critiscism. but in this case wasn't directed at him
All the people dumping on Drink in this thread have not contributed 10% of the value he has brought in here over the last 3 season and he has never asked for anything in return. Stop bitching, you have a choice, buy the picks or pass, just stop shitting on the reputation of the guy that grinds this for a living and has offered his expertise no questioned asked.
Railbird - you sell picks, can we see a transparent record of your picks over the last 2 seasons? Who's tracking you and what's the bottom line? I'm betting you have no idea.
GameBread - You're the trader that doesn't share trade secrets because your kimono is not big enough to hide any secrets. You suck on LeBron's dick all NBA season long and if you don't do that, you find a cool MMA nickname and wave that as if you're a brilliant expert in the field... but you've already told us that you only trade one market, so maybe you're not the expert you think you are.
Gabe - Just because you failed at being a tout, doesn't mean everyone should too. And that's the nicest thing I will say.
ill give you credit, that was a pretty good roast on gamebred.
I didn't dump on drink, It was more whoever the record keeper is at bettor iq. I do think like most leftists drink is too emotionally fragile to handle any scent of any critiscism. but in this case wasn't directed at him
Drunkengoon is entitled to his opinion. I strongly disagree but that is fine .
GameBread - You're the trader that doesn't share trade secrets
because your kimono is not big enough to hide any secrets.
You suck on LeBron's dick all NBA season long
and if you don't do that, you find a cool MMA nickname
and wave that as if you're a brilliant expert in the field...
but you've already told us that you only trade one market, so maybe you're not the expert you think you are.
Trump will release his tax returns before Rail releases a transparent recordAll the people dumping on Drink in this thread have not contributed 10% of the value he has brought in here over the last 3 season and he has never asked for anything in return. Stop bitching, you have a choice, buy the picks or pass, just stop shitting on the reputation of the guy that grinds this for a living and has offered his expertise no questioned asked.
Railbird - you sell picks, can we see a transparent record of your picks over the last 2 seasons? Who's tracking you and what's the bottom line? I'm betting you have no idea.
GameBread - You're the trader that doesn't share trade secrets because your kimono is not big enough to hide any secrets. You suck on LeBron's dick all NBA season long and if you don't do that, you find a cool MMA nickname and wave that as if you're a brilliant expert in the field... but you've already told us that you only trade one market, so maybe you're not the expert you think you are.
Gabe - Just because you failed at being a tout, doesn't mean everyone should too. And that's the nicest thing I will say.
You shit on Drink, but constantly prop up Rail, I don't get it, but whateverHow many units are 700+ hours of work worth GameBred?
50 hours a week, 14 weeks of college football. Plus the offseason prep so 700 is conservative. Probably more like 1000 hours.
Drink never fooled me. Some are fooled because he knows every players name but that by no means translates into profit.
Pinnacle had an article about it
https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting...ogy/the-green-lumber-fallacy/TYT2NELCFV3685XA
LOL. This entire post is a joke and should be taken with a grain of salt. Very little truth here.This thread sure is surreal.
Heim who before this thread was 100% anti tout and out of nowhere and all of a sudden is backing this operation who has already been caught altering records? Heim who makes sure everyone dots their I's and crosses their Ts is all of a sudden forgiving shady practices from a tout service who just started?
Drink who publicly bashed touts and distanced himself from them in every way possible to the point where he refused to have any on his twitter is now a tout? Something he was so adamantly against, something he feverishly campaigned and championed against.
Heim is hiding under a gimmick username with a self-serving agenda, he did the same thing at LVA that he is doing here now.
drink was auditioning for this tout position for years here at EOG. This was always his intention.
Both all of a sudden changed their tune dramatically and did 360s? C'mon get outta here!
So obvious what is going on here. Stevie Wonder can see it.
Gamebred when you say I don't care about my clients I take great offense which is what I am certain was what you were hoping to accomplish.
I was absolutely depressed over releasing a game that was a very large bet for me at -9.5 at 10.5 utah state vs air force. I made it 13.5 and went back and forth for two days over what I should do. I finally decided that I had to release this by Thursday. Knowing it could perhaps close 9.5 or worst. The market has been high on air force all season (for good reason they have improved their run defense tremendously in the last year) and of course saturday night it closes 9.5 and lands 10. I lost 2 nights sleep.
I spend 2 hours a week helping a client via email correct his power numbers and base totals. I sent another a copy of my entire notebook so he could use all my work if he wishes. Im wide open with the kimono. I dont charge extra for anything. I legitimately unlike you want everyone to win.
I have felt completely lost in the only thing I've ever wanted to do in life. Ive never wanted anything as far as a career other than to be a professional gambler. My heros aren't yours. My heros were all poker players and bettors. I speak with my heros and colleagues in this life daily. I am not on a forum trying to appear tough or whatever it is that you are doing.
Stop being stupid. He plays the game at a level I have never seen before and I respect the fuck out of it. End of story.I too am a big Lebron guy as well btw. He's a good hero to have. Kudos on that one.
Yes I need money. Who doesn't? I didn't earn for a stretch there while I dealt with some emotional misfortune. That is not neither here nor there.
However I am not going to apologize for joining bettoriq. I look forward to doing the podcast, the writing that gets done weekly. My growing friendship and camaraderie with all involved in the project has been terrific.
You're never going to buy plays, listen to my podcast and bet any games, you are never going to take anyones advice so you're critical outlook is only demonized in your own mind. Please look at my closing line value and realize the equity alone gives the player options that just aren't available everywhere.
Regardless I am not attempting to change your mind on anything that's impossible. Just know that your resentment is the equivelent of drinking poison and hoping someone else dies.
Funny you bring that up, Woods wasn't exactly the guy that focused on one thing, he was an insurance broker, he was a card counter, he was a drug addict and he really should not be associated with Benter as far as pure talent goes. If you actually figured out the whole story, Benter was the brains and Woods was the guy that could generate a bankroll, circumvent some rules, find some muscle and beards, stay one step ahead of the law, etc... Not exactly my type of role model but to each his own.
Hat off to Benter, but I doubt he wasted his time in dick measurement contests on public forums.
Here's the story for those interested in reading it.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-03/the-gambler-who-cracked-the-horse-racing-code
Gamebred hurt my feelings. Most know how many touts I've battled over the years from Greene to Malinsky now accused of being a shill?! Maybe the years have softened me.
Drink,
I do not dislike you, I dislike what you do and think it is shady; there is a difference. Because you're a supposed nice guy, it isn't going to muzzle me.
Do what you gotta do but don't get all offended when unflattering facts are brought to the surface. It is what it is.
One thing I've never understood is all this "like" talk. Unless we meet with someone, talk or text on the phone on a regular basis what do we have to go on to sincerely dislike someone? I don't dislike drink either, nor anyone here and find it strange that people keep throwing that out there. "I don't like you" "you don't like me" lol. Most of us don't know a damn thing about each other. I'm the most transparent poster there is and I can guarantee that 99% of the posters here don't know a thing about me.
Funny you bring that up, Woods wasn't exactly the guy that focused on one thing, he was an insurance broker, he was a card counter, he was a drug addict and he really should not be associated with Benter as far as pure talent goes. If you actually figured out the whole story, Benter was the brains and Woods was the guy that could generate a bankroll, circumvent some rules, find some muscle and beards, stay one step ahead of the law, etc... Not exactly my type of role model but to each his own.
Hat off to Benter, but I doubt he wasted his time in dick measurement contests on public forums.
Here's the story for those interested in reading it.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-03/the-gambler-who-cracked-the-horse-racing-code
“I’m kind of a one-trick pony.”
- Bill Benter
nobody is as dumb as blueline.