Great hire by Illinois
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railbird
EOG Master
your a weirdo. Bielima is a great coach, has been for 20 yrs. If a Black guy can win, he stays, i have no promblem with that, see Tomlin at Pitt. Otherwise he is fired. Hire on merit. period. not affirmative action or quota.
kane
EOG master
[QUOTE="railbird, post: 7671779, member: 22531"]your a weirdo. Bielima is a great coach, has been for 20 yrs. If a Black guy can win, he stays, i have no promblem with that, see Tomlin at Pitt. Otherwise he is fired. Hire on merit. period. not affirmative action or quota.[/QUOTE]
And you're an illiterate racist piece of shit, go ask the people in Arkansas what a great coach he is
And you're an illiterate racist piece of shit, go ask the people in Arkansas what a great coach he is
kane
EOG master
A chance to coach in the best college football conference in the country
$$$$$
Wisky paid him $2.6mm/yr after he went to 3 rose bowls. ark started him @ $4.2mm/yr
Money AND power.
Wisconsin is and was Barry Alvarez's program, not Bret Bielema's.
Alvarez was the Alpha dog.
Bielema's weight gain at Arkansas was troubling.
Usually a sign of issues in one's private life.
I like my coaches to be lean, mean fighting machines.
The altered picture below made me chuckle.
Bielema's teams were 37-19 in the Big Ten and 11-29 in the SEC.
Seven years in Wisconsin and five in Arkansas.
Surprised he's only 50.
I would have bet OVER.
Seven years in Wisconsin and five in Arkansas.
Surprised he's only 50.
I would have bet OVER.
railbird
EOG Master
the same men that made usa great, and discovered america, now it is being ruined by New England scum
One season in Madison, the offensive line for the Badgers was bigger than most NFL offensive lines.
It also helps to recruit a Ron Dayne or Russell Wilson or Jonathan Taylor every now and then.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
The worst thing that happened to Arkansas was TAMU going to the SEC. It allowed the SEC to recruit Texas ans shut them out.
Good point, FW.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
U of Texas hasn't been near the same either, even with their network.
Drnkyourmlkshk
EOG Dedicated
I think it was the worst hire possible. Remember Bilema was in contention at Ark state and Illinois could have gone with Liepold who had more career wins in the area not only in recruiting and coaching other than Ferentz. If you want a run 1st hard nose coach who also has some offensive flair.
However the big 10 is evolving. Look whats taking place in the sec and see what's working in the big 10 now. Ohio state spread tempo, Northwestern spread/motion, even Iowa is throw 3x more than 5 years ago, Rutgers with Gleeson tempo and spread, Indiana 69/31 pass with rpo.
Nebraska with frost rpo, brohm 70/30 pass-run, fleck made a insanely bad OC hire but he will go back to calling plays again next year.
You want to run it like it is 2008 bad news the majority of premium athletes in the b10 are being recruited on the front 7. There are weakness at Db for whatever reason. Even Maryland was able to exploit that at times.
Illinois hired someone to do something that was unique 10 years ago with big OL and pro style/I offense. Unless he makes a clever OC hire to take full advantage of William's his sprinter at QB this was a D hire.
This is Muschamp, Charlie Strong all over again.
However the big 10 is evolving. Look whats taking place in the sec and see what's working in the big 10 now. Ohio state spread tempo, Northwestern spread/motion, even Iowa is throw 3x more than 5 years ago, Rutgers with Gleeson tempo and spread, Indiana 69/31 pass with rpo.
Nebraska with frost rpo, brohm 70/30 pass-run, fleck made a insanely bad OC hire but he will go back to calling plays again next year.
You want to run it like it is 2008 bad news the majority of premium athletes in the b10 are being recruited on the front 7. There are weakness at Db for whatever reason. Even Maryland was able to exploit that at times.
Illinois hired someone to do something that was unique 10 years ago with big OL and pro style/I offense. Unless he makes a clever OC hire to take full advantage of William's his sprinter at QB this was a D hire.
This is Muschamp, Charlie Strong all over again.
railbird
EOG Master
good post, its politics. reminds me of Kevin Phillips 1969 book the emerging republian majority which does a detailed demographic analysis of every election since 1770s
Just think of the coaching upgrades that have occurred since he left
Iowa Ferentz
NW Fitzgerald
Minnesota Fleck >>>>> Claeys
Wisconsin Chryst >>>>>>>>>>Andersen
Purdue Brohm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hazzell
Nebraska Frost >>>>>Riley
Even in the East, the only downgrade I see is Tucker at MSU. Otherwise every team in the B1G has an equal to or better coaching staff than when he was at Wisconsin
Thanks for sharing your insights, COW and DRINK.
Have a hunch Northwestern head coach Pat Fitzgerald could be coaching his last college game in the Citrus Bowl.
Mike McCaskey on Line 1.
NFL teams have expressed interest in the past but Fitzgerald never bit.
The storyline for the Citrus Bowl will focus on NU defensive coordinator Mike Hankwitz asking his squad for a victory in his final game before retirement.
It would be Hankwitz's 400th career victory as an assistant coach and coordinator.
But quietly, Fitzgerald also may be leaving.
Have a hunch Northwestern head coach Pat Fitzgerald could be coaching his last college game in the Citrus Bowl.
Mike McCaskey on Line 1.
NFL teams have expressed interest in the past but Fitzgerald never bit.
The storyline for the Citrus Bowl will focus on NU defensive coordinator Mike Hankwitz asking his squad for a victory in his final game before retirement.
It would be Hankwitz's 400th career victory as an assistant coach and coordinator.
But quietly, Fitzgerald also may be leaving.
blueline
EOG Master
Mike McCaskey on the phone ...that would be quite a party trick
Whoops!
George McCaskey.
George McCaskey.
railbird
EOG Master
nebraksa is 65% run, Frost would be much better off using a fullback and slowing it down.
railbird
EOG Master
Tom Osborne - Wikipedia this guy was 95 % run
Heim
EOG Master
He had guys like Frazier running the show, now they have a Mexican from Corona, Ca. Big difference....and Outland trophy winners like Remington on OL. Who could blame him running 9 out of 10.
railbird
EOG Master
Jarvis Redwine, IM Hipp, Roger Craig, Mike Rozier
railbird
EOG Master
remember when the baseball and football Roger Craigs were in SFO at the same time
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Bielema ran for the money and lost when he left Wisc. This is a hire that Illinois hasn't had in a while - a coach who isn't looking to elevate his career after a good season. Illinois has had no presence in the Chicago area for years, now they will with Bielema from his Wisc days.
railbird
EOG Master
they have great facilities, no reason not to win. bileima needs to get dairy farmers sons lineman, get a #39 with a neck roll fullback , a shifty tailback and run it 80%.
Two peas in a pod.
Drnkyourmlkshk
EOG Dedicated
I agree with facilities. You just described with what he wants to do and why it's a bad hire in 2021. Analytics and pace took over and as much as I would love to see him do this because I could capitalize on it financially but end of the day unless he also hires a bad OC they will remain what they are today a 6 win cieling team. You're not running up the middle on the b10 anymore. Even Ferentz has realized this as has Fitzgerald.
So your saying the most successful program in the big ten west (Wisconsin) that runs up the middle a lot and plays great defense is an flawed model? I think Harbaugh era Stanford when all the Pac12 defenses were built to stop the spread and then Stanford rolled in with some smash mouth football. You can run up the middle in the Big ten and be successful. Northwestern never was an I formation team so no change there, Iowa still is run first so I don't know what Ferentz has realized. Bad post
railbird
EOG Master
ancestoral demogrlaphics should design offenses, not analytics. And you cant play 7 on 7 yr round in upper midwest,
Drnkyourmlkshk
EOG Dedicated
I'm sorry did you just forget Indiana?
Iowa passed 247 times in 8 games this season. Roughly 30x a game. Wisconsin was beat by both rather easily because of why? Oh a run up the middle and pass on 3rd or when necessary and predictable.
Harbaugh should go back to whatever used to work because this is ugly.
railbird
EOG Master
Wisconson wins rosebowl if not for 5 bad calls by refs last yr, Wiscy wins every 5th rosebowl for 25 yrs because they play Barry Ball as Jk says. Wiscy was beat this yr because lost Center and Running back.
Wisconsin didn't lose those game because of the system they play, they lost because most of their skill position players were out, they were down to their 3rd string true freshman center and had a freshmen quarterback with very little prep time. In fact, the run up the middle strategy is most likely what kept the Indiana and Northwestern games within 1 score. If only passing systems win games in the big ten, explain why Scott Frost has done diddly at Nebraska since he's been there? Jeff Brohm at Purdue?
Being a defensive minded coach, my assumption would be he's going to build up that side of the ball for Illinois. I would think he's going to run power football, but who knows.
He's going to be at a recruiting disadvantage right from the start as C/U may be crappiest of all the big ten cities.