Your Level of Concern About the Coronavirus......on a scale of 1-10

mr merlin

EOG Master
An example. Friend is RN for 23 yrs. Refuses jab, hospital says no biggie, just resign, we have plenty of RNs from off shore fully vaxxed and ready to work.
Uh huh, that's why they're begging for help nationwide. LOL.

On the nightly news they had a report about the teacher shortage nationwide - lots of districts claim they'll mandate it for them too - and keep in mind most of these are shithole schools in shithole cities, i would think the anti vax teachers in those districts might not hesitate to say they dont need this anymore. When 20% of their teachers bail they may come to their senses.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Just heard some good news, the numbers of people getting their first dose of vaccine has now declined for 10 straight days - there was a decent bump for a few weeks as delta hysteria escalated but that's going away too.

Looks like all the fear and threats of mandates hasn't worked huh?
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Uh huh, that's why they're begging for help nationwide. LOL.

On the nightly news they had a report about the teacher shortage nationwide - lots of districts claim they'll mandate it for them too - and keep in mind most of these are shithole schools in shithole cities, i would think the anti vax teachers in those districts might not hesitate to say they dont need this anymore. When 20% of their teachers bail they may come to their senses.




citi teaching jobs pay more than anywhere
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Just heard some good news, the numbers of people getting their first dose of vaccine has now declined for 10 straight days - there was a decent bump for a few weeks as delta hysteria escalated but that's going away too.

Looks like all the fear and threats of mandates hasn't worked huh?



the passport on the way
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
the passport on the way
They need the passport because that's all they have, there are no more shutdowns or restrictions anywhere, despite the announcement a month ago to put the masks back on the reality is very few are wearing them.

The vaccine passports are their only avenue to keeping the pandemic going.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
They need the passport because that's all they have, there are no more shutdowns or restrictions anywhere, despite the announcement a month ago to put the masks back on the reality is very few are wearing them.

The vaccine passports are their only avenue to keeping the pandemic going.




it is not about red and blue.. every country will wind up having it at the end
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
All this talk of masks in schools in TX and FL, right here in MN there are many, many districts, even large suburban ones who are not mandating masks for kids. that's the reality.

Not sure where this guy lives but he apparently got a dose of reality.

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mr merlin

EOG Master
it is not about red and blue.. every country will wind up having it at the end
You do realize that this virus is not immune to the laws of pandemics, eventually it'll run out of targets, and it very well could be at the conclusion of the current wave. Almost no one catches covid twice.

Once the pandemic goes away so will all the stupid passports.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
You do realize that this virus is not immune to the laws of pandemics, eventually it'll run out of targets, and it very well could be at the conclusion of the current wave. Almost no one catches covid twice.

Once the pandemic goes away so will all the stupid passports.



no because the next virus will come. The bigger the population the more problems.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Uh huh, that's why they're begging for help nationwide. LOL.

On the nightly news they had a report about the teacher shortage nationwide - lots of districts claim they'll mandate it for them too - and keep in mind most of these are shithole schools in shithole cities, i would think the anti vax teachers in those districts might not hesitate to say they dont need this anymore. When 20% of their teachers bail they may come to their senses.
Nice school districts are begging for teachers also.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Just in shitty little mn(where I am) there have been 98 fully vaxxed people hospitalized and 9 deaths in the last week.

Not so rare anymore is it?

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MonkeyF0cker

EOG Dedicated
The definition of a vaccine and immunity. Directly from the CDC...

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
The definition of a vaccine and immunity. Directly from the CDC...

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.


Now look up Sterilizing immunity and research why many vaccines are primarily intended to prevent disease and do not necessarily protect against infection.
 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
Yeah. It's because the vaccine prevents people from getting infected.

How is this a difficult concept for you?

I actually feel sorry for you. You twist everything people say, take things out of context and then throw insults on top. What a miserable unhappy person you must be in real life...cause everything you talk about that you have re wealth, homes, girls etc, one hundred percent does match your online persona. So sad. I wish you find inner peace and happiness one day..
 

MonkeyF0cker

EOG Dedicated
Now look up Sterilizing immunity and research why many vaccines are primarily intended to prevent disease and do not necessarily protect against infection.

I'm not sure what you're failing to understand. There is clearly no level of immunity with the COVID-19 vaccines after a short period of time.
 

MonkeyF0cker

EOG Dedicated
I actually feel sorry for you. You twist everything people say, take things out of context and then throw insults on top. What a miserable unhappy person you must be in real life...cause everything you talk about that you have re wealth, homes, girls etc, one hundred percent does match your online persona. So sad. I wish you find inner peace and happiness one day..
Vaccines prevent disease NOT infection

So you didn’t say this...

Vaccines prevent disease NOT infection
 

MonkeyF0cker

EOG Dedicated
You don't get to herd immunity without immunity.

And if we can't ever get to herd immunity, how many more years of life are you people going to let go to waste over this thing? Are you going to force everyone to live the rest of their lives with masks and vaccine passports?

Over a virus that's not a remote threat to anyone that's even semi-healthy and under 70.
 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
I'm not sure what you're failing to understand. There is clearly no level of immunity with the COVID-19 vaccines after a short period of time.

But there is clear evidence that the vaccine does prevent severe disease in most cases. And Covid survivors have much better protection without vax (Natural Immunity)

Side bar...How did you feel about Brett Favre?
Asking for a friend
 

MonkeyF0cker

EOG Dedicated
But there is clear evidence that the vaccine does prevent severe disease in most cases. And Covid survivors have much better protection without vax (Natural Immunity)

Side bar...How did you feel about Brett Favre?
Asking for a friend

Yeah. Where are you getting that evidence from? That's just more bullshit to sell you a failing vaccine. As the effectiveness plummeted, they tried to spin it while people still had a little defense left. That's fading too.

You are being lied to by the CDC and the states where they use the data going back to January 1st when nobody was vaccinated yet. Why isn't that data given out on a daily basis like all cases and deaths?

Maybe you should take a look at what's going on in the highest vaccinated countries and states like Israel, Iceland, Hawaii, etc.

There is a danger with the mRNA vaccines that some studies have warned about where if the virus mutates, the vaccine could cause your body's immune system to attack itself.

In the face of all of this, where the effectiveness is clearly dissipating rapidly, the media and government made their biggest push so far to mandate them. Why would they do that? Wouldn't a rational person step back and start asking questions about how well they work and maybe start an honest discussion about whether this is the right path? Nope. They tripled and quadrupled down. Blaming the unvaccinated now the same way they blamed people who supposedly weren't wearing masks last summer. None of it matters. People who have virtually no chance of having an adverse outcome from getting the virus should not be injected with these vaccines. It's fucking reckless.

You got something right though. Natural immunity is better than anything else. It's what I've been advocating the last year and half. Instead of going the route that Sweden did, we're wasting our lives, destroying our businesses, mortgaging our futures, piling on debt, and losing a ton of freedom to the point where people won't even be able to enter a restaurant without their Nazi gold star/vaccine papers.

In the end, will we have saved a single person's life for all of that sacrifice? The virus is going to keep going until herd immunity. And nothing we've done will end up reducing the number of people that will catch it before we get there.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
The vaccines are causing the surge, the vaccinated are spreading it.




Scientists: Fully vaccinated carry 251 times the Covid viral load as unvaccinated​


By World Tribune on August 26, 2021








by WorldTribune Staff, August 26, 2021
Scientists have discovered that fully vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the viral load of Covid in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.
The researchers, who detailed their findings in a paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found that while the jab moderates symptoms of infection, it also allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into pre-symptomatic superspreaders.
“This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally,” Dr. Peter McCullough noted in an Aug. 23 analysis for Children’s Health Defense’s The Defender.
The researchers who authored the paper found widespread vaccine failure and high rates of Covid transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues.
“They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another,” McCullough noted.
Some U.S. scientists have made the same observations. The CDC has confirmed the Covid vaccines have failed to stop transmission of the virus.
The research out of Vietnam, McCullough noted, provides “a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as Covid-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style superspreaders of the infection. Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new Covid surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their co-workers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage.”
McCullough continued: “Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of Covid-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and co-workers.”

 
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