ANYONE who lost with Clemson tonight...............

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
.................QUIT GAMBLING CUZ YOU SUCK!

Clemson won 35-6. They CLOSED -29.5/-30 so some people might be lamenting the fact they got "hooked" and lost

Those same people are MORONS! I say that because until early Saturday morning you could have had Clemson laying -28.5 or less meaning you coulda/shoulda won

Beating the house is hard enough as is. Trying to beat the house with a terrible/beat up number is almost impossible. Yet casinos/books exist because of all out there who layed 29.5/30 today when they coulda had -28 or less earlier in the week

WHAT you bet is far more important than WHO you bet
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Throw WHEN you bet in there too.

Timing the market is critical, especially in college sports where numbers are more likely to dance significantly.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
.................QUIT GAMBLING CUZ YOU SUCK!

Clemson won 35-6. They CLOSED -29.5/-30 so some people might be lamenting the fact they got "hooked" and lost

Those same people are MORONS! I say that because until early Saturday morning you could have had Clemson laying -28.5 or less meaning you coulda/shoulda won

Beating the house is hard enough as is. Trying to beat the house with a terrible/beat up number is almost impossible. Yet casinos/books exist because of all out there who layed 29.5/30 today when they coulda had -28 or less earlier in the week

WHAT you bet is far more important than WHO you bet
Who, the situation, and price are all equal in my book. To me, betting Clemson is worse at 28-29 than taking Duke at 28.5. Really no motivation to run up the score on Duke when there are bigger games ahead. The price part is probably why I do better in the NFL as you don’t get the wild line swings, nor do I have much time to follow CFB lune mivements.

I didn’t play the game and was a little surprised to see the final, Duke was hanging with them.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Throw WHEN you bet in there too.

Timing the market is critical, especially in college sports where numbers are more likely to dance significantly.

To me WHAT is the same as WHEN. WHAT number you get is the same as WHEN you make the bet

And I do agree with FW on Clemson 28-29 as opposed to Duke 28.5
 

THE FACTSMAN

EOG Addicted
WHAT ABOUT THE GUY

who waited and took duke at +29.5 or plus 30.

did he beat the closer ?
did he get the best of it ?

my take has always been i'd rather cash a ticket
then beat the closer.................where 99% of bettors dont know what beating
the closer really is...................it just makes bettors feel smart

key is bet the number you like

i agree with winky in the fact that if you liked Clemson............bet it early
if you liked duke bet it just before the ball goes on the tee.

i always found it odd that some guys lose there money
but are proud of the fact they got the best it.

the best of it to me is cashing not trashing my tickets

good thread wink
good luck today
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Top-10 teams were 2-8 ATS yesterday (depending on the number you got Clemson). The only two that covered were ND and Wazzou.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
WHAT ABOUT THE GUY

who waited and took duke at +29.5 or plus 30.

did he beat the closer ?
did he get the best of it ?

my take has always been i'd rather cash a ticket
then beat the closer.................where 99% of bettors dont know what beating
the closer really is...................it just makes bettors feel smart

key is bet the number you like

i agree with winky in the fact that if you liked Clemson............bet it early
if you liked duke bet it just before the ball goes on the tee.

i always found it odd that some guys lose there money
but are proud of the fact they got the best it.

the best of it to me is cashing not trashing my tickets

good thread wink
good luck today
They like to tout that they were the reason the line moved. Maybe in smaller sports and low profile games, it’s possible.
 

Heim

EOG Master
I laughed after Fresno scored to make it 23-14 with the PAT pending. Many took +10 late after better all week. Then the PAT was blocked. Aztec bettors got the last laugh. Despite a bad number shit does happen.
 

yisman

EOG Master
very shady 4th quarter

both teams pulled starters and just quit

Duke had it 4th and 3 in Clemson territory and punted

both teams just running out the clock in the 4th and not trying


2H over got robbed
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
I laughed after Fresno scored to make it 23-14 with the PAT pending. Many took +10 late after better all week. Then the PAT was blocked. Aztec bettors got the last laugh. Despite a bad number shit does happen.

I did like SDSU. But when 15 was gone and all I was left with was +13.5 I passed on it. It closed 10/11 in some places so people won but if you take a bad number you can't bitch when you "suffer a bad beat"
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
WHAT ABOUT THE GUY

who waited and took duke at +29.5 or plus 30.

did he beat the closer ?
did he get the best of it ?

my take has always been i'd rather cash a ticket
then beat the closer.................where 99% of bettors dont know what beating
the closer really is...................it just makes bettors feel smart

key is bet the number you like

i agree with winky in the fact that if you liked Clemson............bet it early
if you liked duke bet it just before the ball goes on the tee.

i always found it odd that some guys lose there money
but are proud of the fact they got the best it.

the best of it to me is cashing not trashing my tickets

good thread wink
good luck today


Cashing not trashing my ticket, I like it.

I have a kitchen drawer filled with losing tickets where I got the "best of it."

I can barely open the drawer it's so full.
 
Yet casinos/books exist because of all out there who layed 29.5/30 today when they coulda had -28 or less earlier in the week

I disagree with this general premise.

Books would still be winning in college basketball. I haven't done the research in a while... but if you can look at the data and if you exclude certain key numbers books would still be winning even if players got a half point better on every bet. It still doesn't make enough of a difference to overcome -110 (Now if players get 1 point better then they are winning!)

If I am remembering correctly you get a little above 52%, but the books still win if everyone hits at 52% (a player has to get to 52.38% to break even)

I can't say for sure, but I imagine the same thing exists in college football where books are still going to win with just half point differences.

Now I need Minnesota to cover the 1st half and game here (I beat the close by 2 points lol) to makeup for my shitty Weber State and Vikings bet.
 
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