Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Im calling for a ban until the EOG forum stops looking after the interests of the books and themselves instead of us players. If this post is deleted then Ill take it to all the other forums.
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

I DO DISAGREE & I STAND BEHIND PLAYERS MORE SO THAN SPORTSBOOKS.
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

i volunteer to run my first contest here at EOG. Please pick which forum miz manners is going to first. :whatever:
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Im calling for a ban until the EOG forum stops looking after the interests of the books and themselves instead of us players. If this post is deleted then Ill take it to all the other forums.

Are YOU owed any money by BetUS???
 

Richkas

EOG Veteran
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Im calling for a ban until the EOG forum stops looking after the interests of the books and themselves instead of us players. If this post is deleted then Ill take it to all the other forums.


You apparently dont realize how much they pay to advertise here.
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

for anyone who doesnt know betus's history of screwing winners, just google betus or go to sbr and check their history and read the endless stories from people being fucked out of their winnings. then ask yourself why eog allows them to sponsor here. trust me, i can take the abuse knowing that it comes from fat asses who sit in front of computers a:LMAO ll day while their kids watch tv.
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Why does it matter if they are an advertiser here?

If you don't like it, leave. We are all big boys.

Anyone who sends their money to a sports book without doing their homework deserves what they get. Betus, etc. and the sponsor money they provide pays the bills and allows a site like this to exist.

This forum is here because it is a business. I don't agree with everything that happens here either, but who they allow to sponsor their site is none of my business.

If they start making threads about how great certain books are and falsifying information about them, then that would be different.
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

exactly my :doh1 point. eog cares only about themselves. you all must realize this!


WHY DON'T YOU GO START YOUR OWN FORUM AND THEN YOU CAN WORRY WHERE YOUR ADVERTISING DOLLARS COME FROM.........THE BANNER IS UP, BUT NO ONE IS FORCED TO SEND THEIR MONEY THERE..........
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

yep, no one is making you play there. I don't play there personally, I prefer Bet Jam and Matchbook

Reminds me of all these people that bitch about Wal-Mart and how shitty the company is to work for or how evil it is to shop there.

WELL, DON'T WORK OR SHOP AT F'N WAL-MART THEN. Simple Solution
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

The problem is that EOG/Shrink promised that the sponsors here would be nothing but the best. TRUE or not true? Thanks you. The other problem is that many come here and assume that since a banner is flying up top here they must be a legit shop. Again true. Not all but definitely some newbies. im just calling a spade a spade. Im not running anywhere and I dont care where they get their money. i just think its sad that this forum pretends to be looking out for the players. I think its sad that as much trouble as the gambling industry is in right now, EOG adds to its misery and misfortune by allowing scam books like BETUS to represent here. Wouldnt you think that a major contributor to the offshore gambling industry would want to do whats best for the longterm being of it? The complete opposite is true if they are taking cash from a known scam book. TRUE again. Cmon old timers. Hoffa, Montana, etc.. speak up boys. What do we know about BetUS? dont be afraid? Who cares if Im hated. Be men!!! come out of your corners.:+whipping
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

miz manners is right and a good and important thread. eog did say he'd keep his site free of scamming books. and BETUS is the absolute low of the low. how can you sleep at night knowing that you are leading unwary bettors to the slaughterhouse? good post, miz manners, even if it was politically incorrect, sir.
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

ID, Manners:

The playing field changed A WHOLE LOT when the UIGEA/Port Bill Act was passed

The offshore environment IS improving slowly, but it was a scary time for a lot of gambling portals not so long ago. I know firsthand, as I was running one of the smaller forums during that time.

Pinnacle, Neteller, VIP ect shut down, people like Carruthers and others were getting arrested. Not a fun time to have a good amount of money invested in one of these sites.

A lot of forum owners took a MAJOR BATH

And if you remember at that time (you can search for the thread or I can find it for you), Shrink announced here in the forum that the business model was changing.

It HAD TO change or a lot more folks would have had to close up shop. RX, MW, Cappersmall, Madjacks, ALL THE MAJOR FORUMS changed direction to survive.

And like I stated, it IS improving slowly, but the affect are still being felt from UIGEA and will be for a while longer IMO
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

ONE MORE THING:

Would you go down to McDonalds and eat one of their hamburgers if you didn't know if their meat was safe??

Would you go out a buy a car if you had no idea what was under the hood, or without checking the tires, brakes, ect...???

Unless you're buying a cheap "AS IS" car for 500 bucks or something, Would you still buy a newer, more expensive car if it had NO WARRANTY????

Would you buy food at the grocery if you didn't know what the price of the items were until you got to the checkout??

So, why would you send money offshore to a book if you had NO IDEA if they had a good reputation or if the referrer had some sort of guarantee????
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Ego74, are you saying that EOG would be out of business without BETUS's(A known scam book) donation? I doubt you or anyone believes that. Afterall, Shrink is a wealthy man anyways. He will be fine without EOG. Please dont make excuses for this behavior. Basically you are saying that even if 10 people a year get fucked by BetUS due to them being referred by EOG, its ok and worth it because otherwise EOG wouldnt get their advertisement dollars. Cmon kid! Most of us are grownups and dont buy it. Its one less advertiser and we all know that somebody else will fill that spot. We arent talking about a borderline book here. We are taliking about the worst of the worst. Way to stand up ID! This isnt a popularity contest always DIRTY. Every issue is different and i know Im not popular. I see that ID isnt a little wuss like many of you that agree with me but just cant take my side no matter how right I am. Its not that serious boys. We have men and women dying for our rights right now and you folks are afraid to speak for whats right because you dont want to appear to :doh1 be on my side. Laughable at the least.
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Great theory but unfotunately players do it everyday. Stop making excuses for EOG! Right is right and wrong is wrong. No gray area here man!
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Ego74, are you saying that EOG would be out of business without BETUS's(A known scam book) donation? I doubt you or anyone believes that. Afterall, Shrink is a wealthy man anyways. He will be fine without EOG.

I think you answered your own question there. Wealthy men don't stay wealthy very long if they're constantly digging into their personal funds to cover operating expenses, payroll, ect...

Please dont make excuses for this behavior. Basically you are saying that even if 10 people a year get fucked by BetUS due to them being referred by EOG, its ok and worth it because otherwise EOG wouldnt get their advertisement dollars.

NO, basically I'm not saying any of the such. I don't want anyone to get screwed by a book, neither does General, Shrink, Dirty, other posters.

But you can quote me on this: "If I ever have a problem getting paid by a book, don't just an EOG Sponsor, the first people I would come to in that situation for help is The General and The Shrink"

Cmon kid! Most of us are grownups and dont buy it. Its one less advertiser and we all know that somebody else will fill that spot. We arent talking about a borderline book here. We are taliking about the worst of the worst. Way to stand up ID! This isnt a popularity contest always DIRTY. Every issue is different and i know Im not popular. I see that ID isnt a little wuss like many of you that agree with me but just cant take my side no matter how right I am. Its not that serious boys. We have men and women dying for our rights right now and you folks are afraid to speak for whats right because you dont want to appear to :doh1 be on my side. Laughable at the least.

Not sure where to begin on that last part there. Kind of a clusterfuck to sort out. I'm not sure if BETUS could be considered the "Worst of the Worst".

And I'm not real sure how you slid our Military into the conversation. They're fighting a much more ruthless enemy that BETUS. Last time I checked, these wars were about other things, not the right to gamble with an A+ Sportsbook
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

You missed my point but no worries. At least you speak your mind and dont act like a cowardly hypocrite like Dirty. Nothing worse than a phony hu? If BetUS isnt the worst of the worst than who is? No sponsor here at EOG is close to them. They are parading around like an upstanding shop and nothing could be further from the truth. Its not ok to make money off of other peoples misery right? I only mentioned the military because so many here at this forum are afraid to take my side because Im so disliked. Im just pointing out that this shit isnt nearly as serious as they make it seem. They are fighting for our right to speak at all times and yet these pussies cant even take a posters side even when he is so right. PATHETIC!!! 90% of the members here know BETUS is a scam shop and yet they are silent here because they view this forum shit as a popularity contest like little junior high chicks. I like you though. A cool brother for sure! My girl is black and I love straight people like you. And yes I meant boycott EOG until they bring the BETUS banner down. Star:dancefool ting now!
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Great theory but unfotunately players do it everyday. Stop making excuses for EOG! Right is right and wrong is wrong. No gray area here man!

Ok Manners. How many websites do you visit on an average day???

Let's say you surf the web for a couple hours and visit 20 or 30 websites.

Of these 20-30 websites, how many Banner Adds and Pop Ups do you encounter??

Let's say one or two from each site. And they're all for different things. Let's say you see a few from sportsbooks that you don't know much about, you see a few banners for a tout that says he wins 80 % of the time, and then you get popups with people wanting you to buy itch cream.

Now, let's say, that a few days before, you were thinking to yourself as you were scratching different places on your body, DAMN, I wish there was a product that could stop the itch

OR YOU MAY HAVE BEEN THINKING: I shouldn't have took that guy at the bar home, the one with the warts all around his pubic area...

Well anyway, the moral of the story is the cream you saw on the popup ad says this itch cream is the best ever, that it's been tested on 5000 people with different types of rashes, warts, and abbrasions and has REMOVED THEM ALL, leaving you with soft, silky skin

Their website has all these "before" and "after" pictures that are amazing

So, to cure this bad itch you've acquired, do you immediately send the money off for this MEDICAL CURE IN A BOTTLE, or do you make a doctor's appointment and get his advice on this product

You never know, the Doctor may have something better, safer and more effective in his pharmacy that he can treat your condition with
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

ego - to newbies, the advertising gives credibility to the advertisers. just the way it is. if eog knows this, that players will rely on a popular site's advertisers, then i think it is wrong to lead sheep to the slaughterhouse.sure, they are not doing the most prudent thing by playing somewhere they know nothing about. on the other hand, the site is promoted by a very credible site. finally, why would EOG want to be associated with a book which stole innocent people's money?
 

JC

EOG Veteran
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Rationalize all you want.

It's a disgrace that BetUS is allowed to advertise here, same goes for SBG, Oddsmaker, and a couple of others.

SBG pulled a blatant robbery in the past year, and they are still here.

Oddsmaker stole $40,000 from a player. They claim it was Sportsbetting.com's fault. Oh wait, they are here too. At least one of them should be gone.

Why not Cascade? Why not Lazerwager? Why not have them here if they are willing to pay?

I am pretty sure BetUS, SBG, BOS, and Royal were all welcomed here long before the UIGEA, not that it matters.
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

I always respect your opinion JC, considering all you've been thru for this industry and the fact you know more about this industry than 99.9% of us.

That said, the days of picking and choosing your sponsors and having them compete to be on EOG or the RX (or other forums) is over for the time being

I'm not a fan of BETUS, Lazerwager, or SBG either (I play at oddsmaker and have played at sportsbetting.com in the past, no problems yet)

Of course, I'm a small-time bettor. If I were a $10,000 a game bettor, I wouldn't have money IN ANY BOOK offshore, that's just nuts imo. So, I'd never be in a position where I had a 40K withdraw on the line

Let me ask your opinion JC: Do you think we'll ever again see a time like we had from 2002 to 2005 where all these books were advertising heavily and a lot of gambling sites were living "high on the hog"????
 

JC

EOG Veteran
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Let me ask your opinion JC: Do you think we'll ever again see a time like we had from 2002 to 2005 where all these books were advertising heavily and a lot of gambling sites were living "high on the hog"????

Not in the near future.

These sites need to diversify their advertising base.
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

ego - would you sleep well at night knowing that unsuspecting people are relying on banner advertisers flying high on EOG as reliable shops?
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

I always respect your opinion JC, considering all you've been thru for this industry and the fact you know more about this industry than 99.9% of us.

That said, the days of picking and choosing your sponsors and having them compete to be on EOG or the RX (or other forums) is over for the time being

I'm not a fan of BETUS, Lazerwager, or SBG either (I play at oddsmaker and have played at sportsbetting.com in the past, no problems yet)

Of course, I'm a small-time bettor. If I were a $10,000 a game bettor, I wouldn't have money IN ANY BOOK offshore, that's just nuts imo. So, I'd never be in a position where I had a 40K withdraw on the line

Let me ask your opinion JC: Do you think we'll ever again see a time like we had from 2002 to 2005 where all these books were advertising heavily and a lot of gambling sites were living "high on the hog"????


THERE AREN'T THAT MANY QUALITY BOOKS OUT THERE WILLING TO PAY ADVERTISING DOLLARS TO FORUMS...........NOR WILL THERE BE IN THE FUTURE.......

JUST TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE GAMBLING PORTALS.......ADVERTISERS ARE DWINDLING, AS ARE ADVERTISING DOLLARS.........

MAYBE IF KEN OPENED UP SHEETS AND GOT A PERCENTAGE OF PLAYERS LOSSES HE WOULD DO BETTER, LIKE SBR DOES........BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE LIKE MIZ MANNERS COMPLAINING THAT KEN MAKES MONEY ON PLAYERS LOSSES RATHER THEN BY TAKING ADVERTISING DOLLARS FROM QUESTIONABLE BOOKS........
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

ego - would you sleep well at night knowing that unsuspecting people are relying on banner advertisers flying high on EOG as reliable shops?

yes I would sleep at night ID.

Would YOU sleep at night knowing unsuspecting people will be raped, killed, molested, robbed, assaulted before the day is over???

Would YOU sleep at night knowing one or more of our soldiers in Iraq is gonna get killed by a road bomb before the day is over??????

Would YOU sleep knowing a family of four heading out of a spring break vacation will be killed in a car wreck today?????


Some things in this world concern me a little more than a banner flying here or at another forum. So, while you're trying to save the world, ID, please think of the above things while you're worried so much about BETUS
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Not in the near future.

These sites need to diversify their advertising base.


BINGO........

BUT WHO WANTS THEIR BANNER ON A GAMBLING SITE???

CAN'T SEE ANY MILK COMPANY WANTING ON.........PROBLEM IS THE SITE IS NOT LOCALIZED......IT IS MORE NATIONAL.......
 

WVU

EOG Master
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

EOG staff and the Shrink gave TheRX crap for having shit sponsors like Lazerwager and Sportsbook. They should get the same treatment regarding shit sponsors like BetUS

Miz Manners is not out of line at all with this thread. I will give EOG kudos for not sending this threaad to the dump though.
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

Tougher to get more mainstream advertising revenue since the Govt. went so hard after the Sporting News (over $7 million) and others for accepting gambling advertising earlier in this decade.

Can't even run google, yahoo ads or other certain "sponsored ads" on gambling sites to drum up revenue.
 
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

EOG staff and the Shrink gave TheRX crap for having shit sponsors like Lazerwager and Sportsbook. They should get the same treatment regarding shit sponsors like BetUS

Miz Manners is not out of line at all with this thread. I will give EOG kudos for not sending this threaad to the dump though.

Actually, from what I've read, EOG Staff, Shrink and EOG Posters have given LAZERWAGER (not the RX) crap for not paying these players and using this bogus "processor issues" to delay payments while spamming the hell outta people for March Madness deposits

It's not Rick or the RX's fault that Lazerwager is dodging them and breaking down the lines of communication
 

ShavenCoinpurse

EOG Dedicated
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

I know nothing about BETUS but Miz manners has every right to voice his opinion. Shit, this is a gambling portal and he obviously has a major problem with a book that he wants people to know about. JC even backs his claims. I wish more people would do this. SHRINK and EOG still haven't done anything about the USDBET situation that they sent EOGers to. Shrink won't even comment on a USDBET situation. Shrink and the mods here are good people but you have to realize this isn't a self help website. This is a business. The banners are up there to make money. You can't trust a book just because it advertises on a website. I sincerely doubt you will see Shrink or any mod fully back ALL of those banners. The player must determine the good books and only play there. I learned that the hard way with BOS and USDBET.
 

JC

EOG Veteran
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

THERE AREN'T THAT MANY QUALITY BOOKS OUT THERE WILLING TO PAY ADVERTISING DOLLARS TO FORUMS...........NOR WILL THERE BE IN THE FUTURE.......

JUST TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE GAMBLING PORTALS.......ADVERTISERS ARE DWINDLING, AS ARE ADVERTISING DOLLARS.........

MAYBE IF KEN OPENED UP SHEETS AND GOT A PERCENTAGE OF PLAYERS LOSSES HE WOULD DO BETTER, LIKE SBR DOES........BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE LIKE MIZ MANNERS COMPLAINING THAT KEN MAKES MONEY ON PLAYERS LOSSES RATHER THEN BY TAKING ADVERTISING DOLLARS FROM QUESTIONABLE BOOKS........

Devil,

Are you trying to say EOG has some inherent right to exist? What if SBG, BetUS, and Oddsmaker didn't exist, would EOG be out of business?

There are over 70 books on SBR's A and B list. Until EOG has solicited every one of them and the C's, I don't think they should be reaching down to the D's.

If there are not enough quality books to support all of the forums, then maybe there are too many forums. Has anyone ever considered that?

The books I mentioned above have out and out stolen from people. How can they still be here? Do I need to start bumping old threads? By what standard can you keep promoting a book that you know has stiffed customers?
 

world traveler

EOG Addicted
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

its the old yearly waaa waaa waaa we dont like your banners Ken thread.
i used to be right there next to JC saying Yeah Ken dump the trash. That was until someone wisely pointed out to me that i am under no obligation to visit here, play at at any sponser nor can i expect my opinion to be deleted. After that i gained some respect for EOG and understood my role here, its to contribute posts, read and enjoy, not to tell Ken how to run his Business.
why dont you guys pool your cash together and pay ken the same rate BetUS and the others you dont like not to advertise. After all your asking Ken to take money out of his pocket so why not at least match him $ for $. You guys are all winners for sure after all Ive yet to met a bettor who is a net looser so you must all be flush in cash after the football season.
For what its worth BetUS has hired Kevin King to captain the ship and he is a master at righting listing vessels. Thats got to be worth something..no?
 

world traveler

EOG Addicted
Re: Ban EOG until BetUS is gone!!

...and by the way id rather have crap books advertising here at least this way when those guys who do get stiffed come crying for help Shink and Co. at least have some ammo in their belt to help YOU.
 
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