Bridge jumper alerts

keep the current "price plays" or use the adjusted one?

  • current 11% 23% 36% 0.93

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • adjusted 16% 31% 46% 0.99

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Total voters
    4
  • Poll closed .

trytrytry

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Re: Bridge jumper alerts

belmont race 2 6 min

probably have a 1 to 5 entry tiny field 4 entries 5 total with the entry PLACe only bu they are Place jumping 85% right now with the entry
 

trytrytry

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Re: Bridge jumper alerts

want 1 1A head apart then 6 lengths to the others. place jumpers very very safe in a freebie
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

Belmont lucky that both parts of the entry got in there.

Would've been even worse for them if only one got there.


r3 has a 4/5 M/L and show betting, but may not be any jumping

r8 another possibility
 

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Re: Bridge jumper alerts

Belmont lucky that both parts of the entry got in there.

Would've been even worse for them if only one got there.
very true the ADWs caught a minor break. Plus factor in most ADWs offering some rebates on action have long since banned show wagering from the value bridge jumpers. but very rare to ban or limit place wagering. thought this place pool would get much larger actually.
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

I posted previously that with entries the track/ADWs obviously root hardest for both ends to miss, but second best outcome for them is both make it.

They really take a bath if one part of the entry gets there and the other doesn't.
 

trytrytry

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Re: Bridge jumper alerts

I posted previously that with entries the track/ADWs obviously root hardest for both ends to miss, but second best outcome for them is both make it.

They really take a bath if one part of the entry gets there and the other doesn't.

they do better with the entry actually

if the second choice got 2nd or 1st wtih the FAV

7/2 29,400 18% 7,252 (Call it $7000 for easy math) they have about 3500 tickets to pay approx 0.60 plus give back the $7000 ($2.60 place) like in race 3


the way it happened in race 2 they kept or did not have to pay out the $7000 ie better for the ADWs and tracks
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

as it happened, they took 135,841 of place bets and paid $124,725 in winnings, so an $11,116 profit, which means they had an effective takeout of 8.2%


What I posted was correct. That was the second best scenario (both ends of entry run in top 2) for the track.

The best scenario is both ends of the entry miss and they get full takeout+breakage.


So basically they got half the profits they could've had. Had both ends missed, they would've gotten over 16% of the pool.
 

trytrytry

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Re: Bridge jumper alerts

yes your correct, i read it with respect to the players. but you stated belmont. correct.
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

two scratches in Mountaineer r1 13 minutes before the race.

#1 will likely be lopsided in show pool as a result (not that the scratches were top contenders, but it helps concentrate the betting)

Down to 6 horses, from 8.
 

trytrytry

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Re: Bridge jumper alerts

two scratches in Mountaineer r1 13 minutes before the race.

#1 will likely be lopsided in show pool as a result (not that the scratches were top contenders, but it helps concentrate the betting)

Down to 6 horses, from 8.[/QUOTE


too late for the jumpers to mobilize

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[TH="bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]
Odds[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]WIN $[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]%[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]PLC $[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]%[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]SHW $[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]%[/TH]


[TH="class: runner-number, bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]1[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFAA, align: center"]2/5[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, bgcolor: #FFFFAA, align: center"]6,954[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, bgcolor: #FFFFAA, align: center"]59%[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, bgcolor: #FFFFAA, align: center"]1,841[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, bgcolor: #FFFFAA, align: center"]46%[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFAA, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFAA, align: center"][/TD]


[TH="class: runner-number, bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]2[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]994[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]8%[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]666[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]16%[/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]


[TH="class: runner-number, bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]3[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]43[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]218[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]2%[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]85[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]2%[/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]


[TH="class: runner-number, bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]4[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]969[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]8%[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]324[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]8%[/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]


[TH="class: runner-number, bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]5[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]1,455[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]12%[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]617[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]15%[/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]


[TH="class: runner-number, bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]6[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]SCR[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]


[TH="class: runner-number, bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]7[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]1,188[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]10%[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]511[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]13%[/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]


[TH="class: runner-number, bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]8[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]SCR[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: matrix-odds-percent text-right, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]


[TH="bgcolor: #A9D0F5, align: center"]Totals[/TH]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]11,777[/TD]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="class: text-right, align: center"]4,043

[/TD]


[/TABLE]
]
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

It was not too late.

Those were not the final numbers.

Horse had about 11k in the show pool out of about 13,400

Strangely enough, r9 got a lot more action

Over 27,000 on the #4 horse in a 10 horse field!

I did not want to bet this one but when the numbers kept growing I felt I had to go for it.


Lost about $700 on exotics and place/show wagers.


r9 horse had 74% of show pool

r1 horse had 82%
 

Pigpen

EOG Veteran
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

Try or Yis can you post the final pools of the last race at Mnr last night? Curious at the amount on that $128 show horse.
 

BenoitPaire2

EOG Veteran
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

bottom of bridges are clear

1 Utana 1 2.60 2.20 2.20


2018 Mountaineer stats:

Pick 5: Risk $1286.50, ret $90.50
Pick 4: Risk $191, ret 0
Win: Risk $400, ret $564
Exacta: Risk $78, ret $0
Tri: Risk $8, ret $0
Super: Risk $12, ret 0
Show: Risk $50, ret $80

Total: Risk: 2025.50, ret $734.50

Not very good
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

horse was paying 2.2 when the race started

somehow ended up 4/5


Race 7

[TABLE="width: 771"]

[TH="class: pnum, align: center"]#[/TH]
[TH="class: runn, align: left"]Horse[/TH]
[TH="class: jock, align: left"]Jockey[/TH]
[TH="class: winx, align: right"]Win[/TH]
[TH="class: plac, align: right"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: show, align: right"]Show[/TH]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

7

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Bluegrass Candy[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Cruz A M[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]$3.80[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]$2.20[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]$2.20[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

4

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Francisca Spell[/TD]


[/TABLE]
 

trytrytry

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Re: Bridge jumper alerts

some carnage at the bottom of the bridges just now. Charleston #8 race 10 off the board...39k out of 50k
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

This one at Del Mar survived. Over 66.000 to show on the #7

Race 1

[TABLE="width: 771"]

[TH="class: pnum, align: center"]#[/TH]
[TH="class: runn, align: left"]Horse[/TH]
[TH="class: jock, align: left"]Jockey[/TH]
[TH="class: winx, align: right"]Win[/TH]
[TH="class: plac, align: right"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: show, align: right"]Show[/TH]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

7

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Chasing Yesterday[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Smith M E[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]$2.60[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]$2.60[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]$2.10[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

1

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Honeyfromthesouth[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Garcia M[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]$6.00[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]$4.00[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

2

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Culver Miss[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Stevens G L[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]$4.20[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

5

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Scarlet[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Prat F[/TD]


[/TABLE]
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

crazy amount of late show money in the Haskell.

Good Magic wound up with over 155,000 to show and the total pool was over 257,000

not even close to a negative pool, but a surprising amount of show money
 

trytrytry

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Re: Bridge jumper alerts

Mountaineer r7 in less than 3 hours will be a jumper unless they scratch a horse
track scratches for the card not out yet and as you and I both know you can just about guarantee a mystery scratch in that race... hopefully not.
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

Unique Bella 742k out of 813k in the show pool.


Over 91%. You never see it get that high...
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

Smith got to work too late on Unique Bella and it almost cost him the race.

Barely hung on. Surprisingly close finish but I really think that was Smith's fault.

Race 5

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[TH="class: pnum, align: center"]#[/TH]
[TH="class: runn, align: left"]Horse[/TH]
[TH="class: jock, align: left"]Jockey[/TH]
[TH="class: winx, align: right"]Win[/TH]
[TH="class: plac, align: right"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: show, align: right"]Show[/TH]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

2

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Unique Bella[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Smith M E[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]$2.20[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]$2.10[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]$2.10[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

3

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]La Force (GER)[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Van Dyke D[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]$2.80[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]$2.40[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

1

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Bernina Star[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Desormeaux K J[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]$2.60[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

6

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Yuvetsi[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Baze T[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]-[/TD]


[/TABLE]

Replay
Scratched: Turkish Tabby (4)
Winning Trainer: Jerry Hollendorfer – Owner: Don Alberto Stable
$2 Double (1/2) Paid $7.00
$2 Quinella (2-3) Paid $4.80
$2 Exacta (2-3) Paid $6.00
$0.50 Trifecta (2-3-1) Paid $4.35
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

track scratches for the card not out yet and as you and I both know you can just about guarantee a mystery scratch in that race... hopefully not.

scratches came in 20 minutes before first post and we still have the 6 horses in that race.

Now we wait and see if there's a late scratch.
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

just officially announced

very shady as usual


Race 7

Runner 1 (SCRATCHED)
Name: Freudian Talk
Overweight: 2
Date Entered: July 29 2018, 7:48:00 PM ET*

there goes my pick for the best bet thread today. Held off Unique Bella for Mountaineer...

 

waco

EOG Dedicated
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

3RD RACE AT LOS ALAMITOS. 3 HORSE FIELD AND CAN ONLY BET TO WIN. 13,753 TOTAL BET WITH 5 AND 6 TAKEN 12,753 OF WIN ACTION. BOTH RAN OUT OF THE MONEY
 

yisman

EOG Master
Re: Bridge jumper alerts

yeah I checked Los Al tonight looking for anything interesting

I saw that race but I ignored it because no place betting.

The scumbags at Los Al did have exactas and trifectas for whatever reason.

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[TD="class: horse, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: w_odds, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: w_pool, align: right"]963[/TD]
[TD="class: p_pool, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: s_pool, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: totals, align: right"]963[/TD]


[TD="class: horse, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: w_odds, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: w_pool, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: p_pool, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: s_pool, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: totals, align: right"]0[/TD]


[TD="class: horse, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: w_odds, align: right"]1/5[/TD]
[TD="class: w_pool, align: right"]8,953[/TD]
[TD="class: p_pool, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: s_pool, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: totals, align: right"]8,953[/TD]


[TD="class: horse, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: w_odds, align: right"]9/5[/TD]
[TD="class: w_pool, align: right"]3,800[/TD]
[TD="class: p_pool, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: s_pool, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: totals, align: right"]3,800[/TD]


[TD="align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13,716

[/TD]


[/TABLE]



Race 3

[TABLE="width: 771"]

[TH="class: pnum, align: center"]#[/TH]
[TH="class: runn, align: left"]Horse[/TH]
[TH="class: jock, align: left"]Jockey[/TH]
[TH="class: winx, align: right"]Win[/TH]
[TH="class: plac, align: right"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: show, align: right"]Show[/TH]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

3

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Annitasheaven[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Ramirez M[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]$23.40[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]-[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

5

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Valley Boy[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]Allen J A[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]-[/TD]


[TD="class: pnum, align: center"]

6

[/TD]
[TD="class: runn"]Machete[/TD]
[TD="class: jock"]McDaid K M[/TD]
[TD="class: winx, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: plac, align: right"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: show, align: right"]-[/TD]


[/TABLE]

Replay
Scratched: Little Joe M. (1), Golden Gladiator (2), Raw Diamond (4)
Winning Trainer: Antonio Gonzalez – Owner: Antonio Gonzalez
$1 Trifecta Box Paid $8.00
$2 Exacta (3-5) Paid $34.60
$2 Trifecta (3-5-6) Paid $16.00
 
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