Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
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The smart play in that situation is for the RB to lay down once the 1st down is achieved. It's actually a good play by the D to let them score. Only chance they have is to get the ball back again. But instincts usually take over. Only RB I ever saw who was smart and not selfish, and "got it" was Maurice Jones Drew, who laid down at the one once, in a kind of similar situation. I remember Deion roasting him for it, but that's because Deion was a selfish player.
The smart play in that situation is for the RB to lay down once the 1st down is achieved. It's actually a good play by the D to let them score. Only chance they have is to get the ball back again. But instincts usually take over. Only RB I ever saw who was smart and not selfish, and "got it" was Maurice Jones Drew, who laid down at the one once, in a kind of similar situation. I remember Deion roasting him for it, but that's because Deion was a selfish player.
Re: Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
Westbrook did something similar w/ Eagles. Went down at 1.
Westbrook did something similar w/ Eagles. Went down at 1.
Re: Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeRohiI1iwI
Very unselfish play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeRohiI1iwI
Very unselfish play.
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Forgot about that one. I LOVE players like that. Thinking of the team, and not their individual stats.
Re: Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
I had a middle set up with TEN -6.5 and IND +7.5
oh, and I faded Henry in pick'em DFS for several hundred.
disgusting ending, thought it was going to end perfectly
Tennessee could've taken knees after they got the first first down.
I had a middle set up with TEN -6.5 and IND +7.5
oh, and I faded Henry in pick'em DFS for several hundred.
disgusting ending, thought it was going to end perfectly
Tennessee could've taken knees after they got the first first down.
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I know that "falling down" is the correct game theory play. You have to remember that the way contracts are structured now there could be big money bonuses for yards and touchdowns that could impact Henry at the end of the year.
The people with +7.5 want a laydown and vice versa.
Things will even out. I'm sure there are a few people that lost last night with +7 or better that won when the Chiefs gave them a Christmas miracle.
Just keep on working as this is simply one game in the scheme of an entire gambling season/year.
Onward and upward.
I know that "falling down" is the correct game theory play. You have to remember that the way contracts are structured now there could be big money bonuses for yards and touchdowns that could impact Henry at the end of the year.
The people with +7.5 want a laydown and vice versa.
Things will even out. I'm sure there are a few people that lost last night with +7 or better that won when the Chiefs gave them a Christmas miracle.
Just keep on working as this is simply one game in the scheme of an entire gambling season/year.
Onward and upward.
JavyBaez9
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Re: Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
In all seriousness, the safeties for the Colts legit made no effort to tackle him. Doubt it was a fix, but they definitely made a conscience choice not to tackle him. Probably just laziness rather than corruption.
Colts are one of the worst franchises in the league now, barely ahead of the Browns, so the laziness doesn't surprise me.
In all seriousness, the safeties for the Colts legit made no effort to tackle him. Doubt it was a fix, but they definitely made a conscience choice not to tackle him. Probably just laziness rather than corruption.
Colts are one of the worst franchises in the league now, barely ahead of the Browns, so the laziness doesn't surprise me.
Re: Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
Some of you probably remember the circumstances of this game better than myself so feel free to add or correct if so.
The most suspicious I've ever been of Vegas fixing an outcome was about 15-20 years ago UNLV was hosting Wisky in football. Seemed like half the state of Wisconsin made the road trip for the game and all put down money at the books. Wisky was easily covering the large spread and with about 8 minutes to go in the game the lights went out at the stadium. They never resumred the game. Tickets were graded as a refund instead of winners of course and from what I've heard all the Wisky fans were in an uproar at the books as many weren't all that familiar with some of the book rules.
If ever there was an order from "Guido" to hit the circuit breakers for a desired outcome that one seemed to be the most suspicious.
Some of you probably remember the circumstances of this game better than myself so feel free to add or correct if so.
The most suspicious I've ever been of Vegas fixing an outcome was about 15-20 years ago UNLV was hosting Wisky in football. Seemed like half the state of Wisconsin made the road trip for the game and all put down money at the books. Wisky was easily covering the large spread and with about 8 minutes to go in the game the lights went out at the stadium. They never resumred the game. Tickets were graded as a refund instead of winners of course and from what I've heard all the Wisky fans were in an uproar at the books as many weren't all that familiar with some of the book rules.
If ever there was an order from "Guido" to hit the circuit breakers for a desired outcome that one seemed to be the most suspicious.
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The night the lights went out
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September 7, 2007 - 9:00 pm
The Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks were still a fresh and open wound for Americans when UNLV opened the 2002 football season against Wisconsin at Sam Boyd Stadium.
As the one-year anniversary neared, a sense of unease began to creep over the country about reliving that awful Tuesday morning while worrying about the potential for an anniversary strike.
So when the lights went out at the stadium midway through the fourth quarter, many in the record crowd of 42,075 quickly wondered if another attack was taking place.
UNLV senior associate athletic director Jerry Koloskie heard such talk in the stands.
Then-coach John Robinson looked up at the press box in search of his wife, Linda.
“That’s the first thing that came to my mind was the 9/11 thing,” former Rebels defensive end Ahmad Briggs said. “I was ready to run off the field at that point because I didn’t know what was going on with the lights.”
The fears, thankfully, were unfounded.
Instead, one of the more memorable and unusual nights for UNLV football, occurred because of an old-fashioned power outage. Wisconsin was awarded the 27-7 victory after a short wait ended without the lights coming back on.
“I don’t know if that’s ever happened to anybody before,” said Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez, who was the Badgers’ coach that night.
Of course, the power outage sparked conspiracy theories, some of which exist today.
Much of the suspicion is due to the heavy betting from the many Badgers fans who made the trip and pushed the spread from between 3 and 4 points to 7 for their favorite team.
When the lights went out, 7:41 remained in the game — 2:41 away from making it an official result for the sports books. Thus, the Wisconsin fans who put money on their team to cover did not get paid winnings, but were simply refunded whatever they bet.
Major sports books would have lost only between $10,000 and $20,000 on the game, according to a Review-Journal article at the time. Their losses would have been offset largely because Badgers fans also pushed the total from 53 to 58 points.
‘It surely wouldn’t have gone over the total, and I’m sure there was a lot of parlay action on the total,” said Ken White, chief oddsmaker for Las Vegas Sports Consultants.
Local radio co-host and noted sports bettor Dave Cokin said the theories amaze him.
“There’s no way to keep a secret anymore,” Cokin said. “It’s why local politicians go to jail. So if it was some conspiracy with the UNLV-Wisconsin game, I think someone would’ve blown the whistle and made a lot of money. It’s impossible. It’s completely illogical and as stupid as someone believing in a curse on the Red Sox.
“There is no grassy knoll involved.”
The early report by UNLV Police of a car hitting a transformer that was later discredited probably increased suspicions.
Sam Boyd Stadium manager Jeff Chalfant said an older cable that was part of “the main Nevada Power feed” burned out. That cable, he said, “burned through another.”
And suddenly the stadium went dark.
UNLV had a second-and-10 at its 20-yard line at the time, but 20 points down, appeared to have little chance to rally.
The Rebels broke the huddle, and quarterback Jason Thomas not only saw the stadium lights go out, he saw only blackness beyond to just short of the nearby mountain.
“It was all dark,” Thomas said. “It was like the weirdest thing ever.”
Confusion set in, but those in the stands and on the field mostly stayed in place. They didn’t know if it was another terrorist attack or a fluke occurrence.
“I was surprised how many people stayed there,” former UNLV tailback Larry Croom said. “But everybody stayed there and stayed calm.”
Alvarez walked across the field to meet with Robinson, who informed the Wisconsin coach the contract stated an incomplete game resulted in a scoreless outcome.
“He jumped a foot off the ground, and I said I was kidding,” Robinson said.
Referee Clair Gausman called the Mountain West Conference office, and was told to try to finish the game.
The head coaches, instead, waited about 10 minutes to see if the lights would go back on, and then decided it would be unsafe to play in a stadium in which the only emergency lights worked. Even if the main lights came back on, the coaches believed the players would have cooled down too much to go through another warm-up, especially given the lopsided score.
Robinson never seriously considered finishing the game the next day, and Alvarez was more than happy “to take the win and go home.”
And college football fans — especially those from Wisconsin — were left to talk one of the stranger nights the sport has seen.
“I don’t know how many games that ended like that,” Thomas said, “but I was a part of one that did.”
UNLV Football
The night the lights went out
2069812
2069844September 7, 2007 - 9:00 pm
The Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks were still a fresh and open wound for Americans when UNLV opened the 2002 football season against Wisconsin at Sam Boyd Stadium.
As the one-year anniversary neared, a sense of unease began to creep over the country about reliving that awful Tuesday morning while worrying about the potential for an anniversary strike.
So when the lights went out at the stadium midway through the fourth quarter, many in the record crowd of 42,075 quickly wondered if another attack was taking place.
UNLV senior associate athletic director Jerry Koloskie heard such talk in the stands.
Then-coach John Robinson looked up at the press box in search of his wife, Linda.
“That’s the first thing that came to my mind was the 9/11 thing,” former Rebels defensive end Ahmad Briggs said. “I was ready to run off the field at that point because I didn’t know what was going on with the lights.”
The fears, thankfully, were unfounded.
Instead, one of the more memorable and unusual nights for UNLV football, occurred because of an old-fashioned power outage. Wisconsin was awarded the 27-7 victory after a short wait ended without the lights coming back on.
“I don’t know if that’s ever happened to anybody before,” said Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez, who was the Badgers’ coach that night.
Of course, the power outage sparked conspiracy theories, some of which exist today.
Much of the suspicion is due to the heavy betting from the many Badgers fans who made the trip and pushed the spread from between 3 and 4 points to 7 for their favorite team.
When the lights went out, 7:41 remained in the game — 2:41 away from making it an official result for the sports books. Thus, the Wisconsin fans who put money on their team to cover did not get paid winnings, but were simply refunded whatever they bet.
Major sports books would have lost only between $10,000 and $20,000 on the game, according to a Review-Journal article at the time. Their losses would have been offset largely because Badgers fans also pushed the total from 53 to 58 points.
‘It surely wouldn’t have gone over the total, and I’m sure there was a lot of parlay action on the total,” said Ken White, chief oddsmaker for Las Vegas Sports Consultants.
Local radio co-host and noted sports bettor Dave Cokin said the theories amaze him.
“There’s no way to keep a secret anymore,” Cokin said. “It’s why local politicians go to jail. So if it was some conspiracy with the UNLV-Wisconsin game, I think someone would’ve blown the whistle and made a lot of money. It’s impossible. It’s completely illogical and as stupid as someone believing in a curse on the Red Sox.
“There is no grassy knoll involved.”
The early report by UNLV Police of a car hitting a transformer that was later discredited probably increased suspicions.
Sam Boyd Stadium manager Jeff Chalfant said an older cable that was part of “the main Nevada Power feed” burned out. That cable, he said, “burned through another.”
And suddenly the stadium went dark.
UNLV had a second-and-10 at its 20-yard line at the time, but 20 points down, appeared to have little chance to rally.
The Rebels broke the huddle, and quarterback Jason Thomas not only saw the stadium lights go out, he saw only blackness beyond to just short of the nearby mountain.
“It was all dark,” Thomas said. “It was like the weirdest thing ever.”
Confusion set in, but those in the stands and on the field mostly stayed in place. They didn’t know if it was another terrorist attack or a fluke occurrence.
“I was surprised how many people stayed there,” former UNLV tailback Larry Croom said. “But everybody stayed there and stayed calm.”
Alvarez walked across the field to meet with Robinson, who informed the Wisconsin coach the contract stated an incomplete game resulted in a scoreless outcome.
“He jumped a foot off the ground, and I said I was kidding,” Robinson said.
Referee Clair Gausman called the Mountain West Conference office, and was told to try to finish the game.
The head coaches, instead, waited about 10 minutes to see if the lights would go back on, and then decided it would be unsafe to play in a stadium in which the only emergency lights worked. Even if the main lights came back on, the coaches believed the players would have cooled down too much to go through another warm-up, especially given the lopsided score.
Robinson never seriously considered finishing the game the next day, and Alvarez was more than happy “to take the win and go home.”
And college football fans — especially those from Wisconsin — were left to talk one of the stranger nights the sport has seen.
“I don’t know how many games that ended like that,” Thomas said, “but I was a part of one that did.”
UNLV Football
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Viejo Dinosaur
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Re: Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
The lights on Boulder Highway were on as well as the many neon lights at all the casinos in the area....only the stadium was dark....definitely an inside job...
The lights on Boulder Highway were on as well as the many neon lights at all the casinos in the area....only the stadium was dark....definitely an inside job...
Re: Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
Not by the casinos though, was a very small decision at the place I worked at, pretty sure it was the same at most of the major Strip books. If I remember correctly it wasn’t even close to being one of the bigger decisions that day.
Had the game played out and the under came in the game may have even been a small winner for some books.
Not by the casinos though, was a very small decision at the place I worked at, pretty sure it was the same at most of the major Strip books. If I remember correctly it wasn’t even close to being one of the bigger decisions that day.
Had the game played out and the under came in the game may have even been a small winner for some books.
Re: Call came in from Vegas for that Henry TD
i never did see it, thank you for sharing the info......though my wallet doesn't feel any better.
i never did see it, thank you for sharing the info......though my wallet doesn't feel any better.