Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

The stupidest thing about this whole exchange is that Fezzik, in his usual egomaniacal autistic clueless manner, isn't even giving the first thought to his target audience. He still considers himself some sort of pro bettor even though that ship sailed after he dumped -210 units over 7 years with an average bet size of 2u despite including Bodog/SIA lines, $50 Bodog props etc. in his record. He's now marketing to the types of idiots who will buy a $25 package because he went 3-1 last week including a 3* GOY that keeps his "lifetime record on 3* bets at 26-13!"

He's at least cognizant enough to realize that he can use Bodog and SIA lines when he grades his plays, since the morons are only going to care the handful of the times the game lands on that particular number and he can always tell them "You need to buy my package right away, lines move!" or "You need better outs!" since RJ bans anyone with the two active brain cells required to read a line history. So nobody actually buying these picks is competent enough to read a line history. But giving out opposite sides of the same play is just about the stupidest fucking thing you can do when you're marketing to that kind of clueless audience, and is a great example of why Fezzik sucks at both being a pro bettor AND being a fraud tout.

These idiots want A WINNER. They don't want to hear that you changed your mind because of a trivial detail like "the weather." They are degenerates who are paying you for your "expertise," and changing you mind and telling them to bet the opposite side is just awful from a business perspective. You are a fraud tout, you know you're a fraud tout, so fully embrace it and don't go back to your "pro bettor roots" and do something as silly as changing your mind on the GOY you released.

Of course Fezzik still knows that there are times when sharp bettors will suck it up and take the polish middle, he hasn't completely forgotten his roots, but he's selling to idiots stupid enough to buy picks from him, so he should really just keep pimping the idea that he really can pick 66% winners on his GOYs and don't try to get fancy with this whole middling stuff.
 

Discreet Cat

EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

If you're going to suck it up and take the Polish Middle (and I suppose your opinion could change enough in rare instances that you might prefer to bet the other side at a new number, due to some outside forces like key players being likely to sit, or a typhoon about to hit the stadium), then I would assume that you would be betting twice as much on the new position so that you actually have a position on the game (at higher vig, obv), rather than just betting an equal amount so that you have no position at all? Because, I mean, if your new opinion is strong enough to warrant betting at the new number (in contrast to an earlier opinion), then it's strong enough to be an actual play (rather than a non-play), right? The only variable I can see would be the increased juice on the new side, but that goes back to my earlier point about excessive juice making such a tactic inadvisable in the first place.
 

macau

EOG Addicted
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

If you like a play at a certain number, and you bet it at that number, what difference does it make where the number goes after you bet it? You're already locked in. Unless perhaps the number moves so much that you prefer taking a middle opportunity over the original play itself. I don't think being wishy-washy is the way to long-term success. Different for you maybe, because you're a market handicapper.

DiscreetCat - i bet u never had an account closed -limited or put on delay....if u think like that u have zero chance of making money... that goes for anyone else that does not see an advantage of firing early on off numbers and then if injury issues etc happen get away from that bet..but keep the the rest of them
 

macau

EOG Addicted
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

The stupidest thing about this whole exchange is that Fezzik, in his usual egomaniacal autistic clueless manner, isn't even giving the first thought to his target audience. He still considers himself some sort of pro bettor even though that ship sailed after he dumped -210 units over 7 years with an average bet size of 2u despite including Bodog/SIA lines, $50 Bodog props etc. in his record. He's now marketing to the types of idiots who will buy a $25 package because he went 3-1 last week including a 3* GOY that keeps his "lifetime record on 3* bets at 26-13!"

He's at least cognizant enough to realize that he can use Bodog and SIA lines when he grades his plays, since the morons are only going to care the handful of the times the game lands on that particular number and he can always tell them "You need to buy my package right away, lines move!" or "You need better outs!" since RJ bans anyone with the two active brain cells required to read a line history. So nobody actually buying these picks is competent enough to read a line history. But giving out opposite sides of the same play is just about the stupidest fucking thing you can do when you're marketing to that kind of clueless audience, and is a great example of why Fezzik sucks at both being a pro bettor AND being a fraud tout.

These idiots want A WINNER. They don't want to hear that you changed your mind because of a trivial detail like "the weather." They are degenerates who are paying you for your "expertise," and changing you mind and telling them to bet the opposite side is just awful from a business perspective. You are a fraud tout, you know you're a fraud tout, so fully embrace it and don't go back to your "pro bettor roots" and do something as silly as changing your mind on the GOY you released.

Of course Fezzik still knows that there are times when sharp bettors will suck it up and take the polish middle, he hasn't completely forgotten his roots, but he's selling to idiots stupid enough to buy picks from him, so he should really just keep pimping the idea that he really can pick 66% winners on his GOYs and don't try to get fancy with this whole middling stuff.

please Grov take a much needed break from posting against Fezz , he aint that bad ffs:btj:
 

Discreet Cat

EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

DiscreetCat - i bet u never had an account closed -limited or put on delay....if u think like that u have zero chance of making money... that goes for anyone else that does not see an advantage of firing early on off numbers and then if injury issues etc happen get away from that bet..but keep the the rest of them

I've never had a sports betting account to get closed. I don't even use the mobile apps here in town.
 

Discreet Cat

EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

As for my betting habits, I do like to bet early (provided I have an opinion on the game), unless I feel it'll be advantageous to wait. I generally get the best of the number, not always, but when it moves against me I don't start to question myself and look for reasons to get off of it. Quite the contrary; I'm more likely to bet it again at the more favorable number. If I have a strong enough opinion, anyway.

Injuries happen and weather happens, and well, shit happens, but since I'm actually betting with an opinion (rather than just chasing numbers, like the bulk of the "pros" here in Vegas), I'm not likely to change my stance unless something weird happens. And even when it does, I generally just shrug and deal with it.
 

macau

EOG Addicted
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

ok DiscreetCat fair enough , good horse Discreet Cat by the way - think it was a godolphin horse - was an injury prone horse but very talented
 

Discreet Cat

EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

ok DiscreetCat fair enough , good horse Discreet Cat by the way - think it was a godolphin horse - was an injury prone horse but very talented

He was a truly great horse, but very brittle. I'm sorry to say that i had futures on him for both the Kentucky Derby and the BC Classic, he indeed finished his 3yo season unbeaten, and i failed to cash either ticket. Making it worse, the horse who did win the BC Classic (Invasor) was a horse he had already trounced in the UAE Derby earlier in the year. Just a messed up situation. I also later had a big future bet on Bernardini, who ran second to Invasor in that same BC Classic. Unreal.

Btw, Discreet Cat was never the same horse (due to injuries) after his 3yo season. He actually made it to the Breeders Cup as a 4yo, but he was just a shell of his former self at that point.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

I loved Bernardini.

His Preakness victory was overshadowed by the Barbaro tragedy.
 
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

As far as the Peppermill Atlantis I stated earlier, check the quote, that a capper with 159 NBAS plays this year, meaning SEASON (If one says this year in the NFL/NBA they are not referring to the January playoffs right, but rather this SEASON), was not graded with those but rather all high profile books and not the 3 you stated (Pepper Atlantis etc). This thread began with the NBA and I have not been graded with any of those this season and I mentioned the 1 game in post 17 where I caught a push instead of a loss last year/season. The same guy who posted 159 NBA posted 260 NFL and no Pepper Atlantis or the other book you mentioned; all the high profile ones mentioned.

In how many different threads are you going to reply with this nonsense? Obsess much?

1) The records you cited don't even include the 2014-15 season, because of course you're such a fraud tout you can't even include a 9-9 record lest it make your record 1 unit worse.

2) How in world is there a tout who's already released 159 NBA plays and 260 NFL plays when there have only been about 205-210 NBA games and about 165 NFL games? 330 NFL sides and totals to choose from and this guy is finding value in 260 of them???

A full 1/3rd of you plays in the 2014 season have been graded against the 5Dimes reduced juice line. The fact that you consider a cherry picked line between them, sportsbook.ag, and the Greek is proof that you aren't even a serious bettor. But you're the same person who justified VI grading a play of yours at a line 1.5 points better than you even got yourself, using a line that was off the board at the time, so your idea of "widely available" is not to be taken seriously.

You pulled your post where you accused me on concealing the 1 play from last year. Admit it as I saw the post and it disappeared. Grooving, you can't pull your bullshit attorney stuff with me because I am just as smart as you just not as obsessed.

No, if you were as smart as me, you'd be able to win at your own betting and wouldn't need to con people into buying your picks with bogus records. I didn't "pull" a single post. EOG's edit window is only open for about 3-5 minutes. None of your replies to my posts were anywhere near that window, so no way I could have edited a post.

Notice you stopped short of attacking the record.

Of course the record is nonsense. None of the picks are timestamped, and none are released anywhere near the start of gametime. Your argument that "displaying the game at the end of the 1q is as good as displaying them at the start of the game" is either a sign of your stupidity or your fraudulence, take your pick.

VI filters out books all the time and even if Atlantis were still in there would you consider the 1 NFL post from August, which was the first game of the year out of my 69, as representative of anything given that it no longer appears.

Um, you just said that the inflation was gone as of 2 years ago, so claiming a graded play from 3 months ago is "ancient history" is, again, either a sign of stupidity or a sign of fraudulence.

You were schooled here Groovin now get to work to save face but I won't bother responding to an obsessive jerk off.

You're so obsessed with me that you stay up nights thinking about my weight, the functionality of my genitalia, reply to me first thing in the morning, and then reply to me in 3 different threads. I suggest you stop projecting.[/QUOTE]
 

my_nameaintearl

EOG Member
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

I was able to confirm that currently the BLAP program has zero paying subscribers. Although there are some users who do receive the plays there are not any that are paying for them.
 

Fezzik

EOG Veteran
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

LOL, someone with 7 posts magically shows up in this thread with nonsense.....
 

my_nameaintearl

EOG Member
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

OMG NOT 7 posts!!!

When was the last new paying customer signed up for BLAP.

Don't worry ill wait. I mean i only have 7 posts.
 
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LOL, someone with 7 posts magically shows up in this thread with nonsense.....

LOL, do you even read Pregame's forum? He's a long time Pregame poster that got immediately banned by RJ after he posted an article that exposed a bunch of the fraud that goes on there.

In your usual incompetent manner, the boob you picked to "interview the BLAP subscribers to see if they're eligible for the program" last year, Johnny Detroit, was not only stupid enough to OPENLY BOOK THE BLAP SUBSCRIBERS (the idiot didn't even get a partner to help him collect, he was the one confirming the figure each week and having them Fedex the payments to an address right near where he lives) , he was also stupid enough to let it slip that BLAP had no subscribers as of March 1st:

http://forums.eog.com/showthread.ph...s-ass/page27?p=4186381&viewfull=1#post4186381

Ohhhh GM.
Subscriber to what? Check his page. He does
not sell subscriptions. Starting to actually feel bad for you.

Probably a good idea that BLAP no longer has subscribers because selling picks that your partner is booking himself is pretty clear evidence of fraud because it indicates you two don't believe those picks have any value.
 

pbovi

EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

In how many different threads are you going to reply with this nonsense? Obsess much?

1) The records you cited don't even include the 2014-15 season, because of course you're such a fraud tout you can't even include a 9-9 record lest it make your record 1 unit worse.

2) How in world is there a tout who's already released 159 NBA plays and 260 NFL plays when there have only been about 205-210 NBA games and about 165 NFL games? 330 NFL sides and totals to choose from and this guy is finding value in 260 of them???

A full 1/3rd of you plays in the 2014 season have been graded against the 5Dimes reduced juice line. The fact that you consider a cherry picked line between them, sportsbook.ag, and the Greek is proof that you aren't even a serious bettor. But you're the same person who justified VI grading a play of yours at a line 1.5 points better than you even got yourself, using a line that was off the board at the time, so your idea of "widely available" is not to be taken seriously.



No, if you were as smart as me, you'd be able to win at your own betting and wouldn't need to con people into buying your picks with bogus records. I didn't "pull" a single post. EOG's edit window is only open for about 3-5 minutes. None of your replies to my posts were anywhere near that window, so no way I could have edited a post.



Of course the record is nonsense. None of the picks are timestamped, and none are released anywhere near the start of gametime. Your argument that "displaying the game at the end of the 1q is as good as displaying them at the start of the game" is either a sign of your stupidity or your fraudulence, take your pick.



Um, you just said that the inflation was gone as of 2 years ago, so claiming a graded play from 3 months ago is "ancient history" is, again, either a sign of stupidity or a sign of fraudulence.



You're so obsessed with me that you stay up nights thinking about my weight, the functionality of my genitalia, reply to me first thing in the morning, and then reply to me in 3 different threads. I suggest you stop projecting.
[/QUOTE]

I posted the following in the other thread but this about sums it up:

Groovin, you will always prevail not because you are right, but because you will expend every ounce of your energy into validating your case, right or wrong, while papering & papering people into submission. You place little value on your time.

You would rather channel your efforts towards winning an argument than getting pussy, or anything of some meaning/enjoyment.
 

Cizzle

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

Why do you have to give out fictional “Games of the Year?” You and I both know that these games do not exist.

I have no issue with touting, per se, I have a big issue with touts like you who are constantly dissembling and preying upon the ignorant. Total of the Year, GTFO.

Fezzik also got called out this NFL season at Pregame by a subscriber when Fezzik released an NFL "Game Of The Month" on the last Sunday of October.

Typical tout garbage.
 

Bfo

EOG Addicted
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Cue the "Groovin uses ghosts" accusations. I'm sure they're coming sooner or later.
 

Discreet Cat

EOG Dedicated
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I have a question for Fezz. Feel free to answer, or not answer. Just curious.

Once you decided to officially "go tout", why did you choose to associate yourself with Pregame? Obviously, they reach a wide audience due to their inexplicable relationship with ESPN, but you already had a reasonably large following yourself, in addition to the selling point of being a 2-time Hilton Contest winner (and congrats on that; it was quite an achievement despite the large amount of luck needed to pull it off).

I mean, after all, getting 100% of a small pie (or in your case, perhaps a medium-sized pie) can be preferable to getting 30% of a large pie (or whatever you're getting).

Plus, you would've had the freedom to operate how you choose to operate, advertise how you choose to advertise, etc. And as we can all see, what people think of you is pretty high on your list of priorities. Why not just open your own site, and do it that way? I don't understand the benefit of going with Pregame, at least not in your case.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

think about it...forget the 'built uo' records and the bs challenges. What AP worth his salt would sell any appreciable edge for 29 bucks??
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

My good buddy Toofdoc challenged him for 10k I think but fezzik bitched out
Actually wasn't the bet with RJ Bell that he could out perform Fezzik's 58.6% in the supercontest. Then he gave an excuse stating that his lawyers advised against this. Really? So you don't run something by your lawyers first before claiming you win put up to $100k behind Fezzik's record. Then when someone with a brain pulse puts up 10k you run into your hole and hide!
 

macau

EOG Addicted
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DiscreetCat - yes i remember i had futures on this horse also for the BC , he hosed in up in the UAE before that..he had all the ability in the world but injury curtailed him...

Lads if u concentrated on your own betting instead of Fezziks /Bovi's etc would be a positive thing, its the same crap all the time :btj:
 
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Once you decided to officially "go tout", why did you choose to associate yourself with Pregame? Obviously, they reach a wide audience due to their inexplicable relationship with ESPN, but you already had a reasonably large following yourself, in addition to the selling point of being a 2-time Hilton Contest winner (and congrats on that; it was quite an achievement despite the large amount of luck needed to pull it off).

For someone who replies to as many Fezzik threads as you do, did you miss the part where he was already touting from 2001-2005 and 2009-early 2013 before joining Pregame? From 2005 until leaving LVA in Jan 2013 he lost something like 200 units, picking 49.5% over 1600 plays, so whatever audience he had was likely gone.

By "officially going tout," I think you mean "officially going full on scam tout." On LVA, a bunch of elements of the scam were already there (deleting references to his records, grading vs bogus lines, in some cases 4 days old) but at least all the plays were verifiable, unlike this current BLAP scam.

I mean, after all, getting 100% of a small pie (or in your case, perhaps a medium-sized pie) can be preferable to getting 30% of a large pie (or whatever you're getting).

Plus, you would've had the freedom to operate how you choose to operate, advertise how you choose to advertise, etc. And as we can all see, what people think of you is pretty high on your list of priorities. Why not just open your own site, and do it that way? I don't understand the benefit of going with Pregame, at least not in your case.[/QUOTE]
 

Discreet Cat

EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

DiscreetCat - yes i remember i had futures on this horse also for the BC , he hosed in up in the UAE before that..he had all the ability in the world but injury curtailed him...

I know for a fact that Godolphin had contacted the Churchill racing secretary about two or three weeks before the Derby to firm up his status and/or discuss travel plans, then he never showed up for the race. Had him @ 50/1 (bet in the morning of the UAE Derby @ IP, if you can believe that), and that went right down the tubes. Obviously something physical cropped up. He later turned up @ Saratoga in August and ran away from an allowance field while totally in hand. Think he won the Jerome in like 1:33 after that, then mysteriously passed on the Breeders Cup (another ill-timed physical setback, no doubt) before romping in the NYRA Mile late in the year. That was the last I saw of him at his established level (though he generally kept winning after that, because 70-80% of his former self was often enough for him to get by). Real shame. Not sure I've seen more than 3 or 4 horses with that kind of natural talent. One of them was Lit de Justice, if you remember him. Big gray crazy horse who either felt like running and won for fun, or didn't try at all and finished last. His talent came sprinting though; he wasn't nearly as good going long (though I think he did win around two turns a few times).
 
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Once you decided to officially "go tout", why did you choose to associate yourself with Pregame? Obviously, they reach a wide audience due to their inexplicable relationship with ESPN, but you already had a reasonably large following yourself, in addition to the selling point of being a 2-time Hilton Contest winner (and congrats on that; it was quite an achievement despite the large amount of luck needed to pull it off).

I mean, after all, getting 100% of a small pie (or in your case, perhaps a medium-sized pie) can be preferable to getting 30% of a large pie (or whatever you're getting).

My last reply got screwed up, will repost:

For someone who replies to as many Fezzik threads as you do, did you miss the part where he was already touting from 2001-2005 and 2009-early 2013 before joining Pregame? From 2005 until leaving LVA in Jan 2013 he lost something like 200 units, picking 49.5% over 1600 plays, so whatever audience he had was likely gone.

By "officially going tout," I think you mean "officially going full on scam tout." On LVA, a bunch of elements of the scam were already there (deleting references to his records, grading vs bogus lines, in some cases 4 days old) but at least all the plays were verifiable, unlike this current BLAP scam.
 

Discreet Cat

EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

For someone who replies to as many Fezzik threads as you do, did you miss the part where he was already touting from 2001-2005 and 2009-early 2013 before joining Pregame? From 2005 until leaving LVA in Jan 2013 he lost something like 200 units, picking 49.5% over 1600 plays, so whatever audience he had was likely gone.

By "officially going tout," I think you mean "officially going full on scam tout." On LVA, a bunch of elements of the scam were already there (deleting references to his records, grading vs bogus lines, in some cases 4 days old) but at least all the plays were verifiable, unlike this current BLAP scam.

I wasn't aware of the 2001-2005 stuff. The LVA stuff of course I know about, but that wasn't being advertised as a "buy Fezzik's picks" site, at least not directly, I don't think (I realize we disagree on that). If those idiots (err, customers) wanted to spend $1000 for access to a Fezz-centric message board, that's their business. I don't think they were buying picks though (not that some weren't using it for that; I'm sure they probably were). As for the line-grading stuff during that time, I really wasn't paying attention, so I don't know. I'll defer to your and/or CB's knowledge on that. Based on what's going on nowadays however, it certainly wouldn't surprise me. I think Fezzik would be better-served doing things a bit differently (or well, a lot differently). Really none of my business though, and not something I haven't told him before. Obviously, he sees things differently, and that's his right as an individual. So I should probably refrain from commenting any further.
 
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Lads if u concentrated on your own betting instead of Fezziks /Bovi's etc would be a positive thing, its the same crap all the time :btj:

The two are not mutually exclusive. I'm certain that I spend less time posting about these clowns than most people spend sweating games.
 
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I wasn't aware of the 2001-2005 stuff. The LVA stuff of course I know about, but that wasn't being advertised as a "buy Fezzik's picks" site, at least not directly, I don't think (I realize we disagree on that). If those idiots (err, customers) wanted to spend $1000 for access to a Fezz-centric message board, that's their business. I don't think they were buying picks though (not that some weren't using it for that; I'm sure they probably were).

On the 2009-2013 LVA site, his contest records were prominently displayed on the main page. The focus of the forums was clearly Fezzik's picks, since most everybody left when he left and the forum is now a ghost town, despite having FrankB/Voodoo hosting now, who's one of the sharpest and most knowledgeable people on forums. But he's not posting very many picks since that's not really his focus (nor would it be mine if I were hosting), so it follows that the people were there for Fezzik's picks.

If someone was deriving value from the other forum content, fine, my point was more that Fezzik was constantly telling people how he was "staying up all night pouring (sic) over box scores and watching game video" and how he "fully expected to hit 55% since he was charging more than a nominal fee." Now he completely disavows his LVA stuff, saying it was "a free site that wasn't a priority" (free, $1000/year, what's the difference), and now even making a whopper of a claim that everyone there was comped and there were no paying subscribers.

Anyone aware of Fezzik from forums knows that he shit the bed 5 years running, so it's obviously a hard sell to convince people to pay even more after you've picked 49.5% over 5 years. Moving to Pregame certainly made "sense" in the sense that few people there know who he is, and RJ has no problems banning anyone who posts Fezzik's past records.
 

Bagiant

EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

Nobody I know considers winning that contest a big deal.......

You guys keep claiming it means something.

:doh1

I don't know about you, but I would consider about $400,000 won in two years a major success. You may have seen bettors making $200,000 bet in a weekend, but that doesn't mean they won for the year.
 

Cizzle

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

....my point was more that Fezzik was constantly telling people how he was "staying up all night pouring (sic) over box scores and watching game video" and how he "fully expected to hit 55% since he was charging more than a nominal fee."

This. It's intellectually dishonest for Fezzik to now claim LVA was not his picks site. He was always pumping his plays, always talking about the "Fezz Train," always talking about "backing up the truck," regularly making excuses when his plays lost, and always expressly promising better results. He also complained that his LVA records were not accurate when they didn't include his SuperContest plays, even though at the beginning of the season he told people not to bet his SuperContest plays. None of this conduct is consistent with a self-serving, after the fact claim now that Fezzik was simply "moderating" or "hosting" the LVA boards.

The biggest give away though was when LVA quadrupled the subscription price from $25/month to $100/month after Fezzik won his second SuperContest, as if anyone would pay $100/month simply for the privilege of a Fezzik "moderated" message board. Nonsense - people paid for his plays, everyone knows it, and he buried many subscribers.
 

macau

EOG Addicted
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

Cizzle were u friends with Fezzik back in the day, u guys worked together did u not ?
 

GSJ2

EOG Member
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

I have worked my ass off the last 2 years. And anyone who thinks I'm a f****G losing bettor, YOU CAN PICK the location of any major sports book in Vegas, and I will bet you I am up VS THAT BOOK the last two years betting, not using my records, but THEIRS.........AGAIN you can pick the damn book, it doesn't matter to me...........

You lost in Football last year. You claimed in the Pre Game threads that it wouldn't happen again and you would bet anyone any amount of money. Knowing your record I immediately jumped at the chance and offered to put 10k in Escrow and make the bet. Your response was you didn't want that kind of action.

Who wouldn't want action on simply having a winning record?
 
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I also offered to escrow 10k that I could beat Fezzik's 6 year record in football, and got crickets. RTP on the whole was willing to bet something like $1 million and Fezzik chose to instead personally attack one of the parties involved and ignore all the others.
 

Cizzle

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

I also offered to escrow 10k that I could beat Fezzik's 6 year record in football, and got crickets. RTP on the whole was willing to bet something like $1 million and Fezzik chose to instead personally attack one of the parties involved and ignore all the others.

Pregame poster Toofdoc also accepted RJ's "Fezzik Challenge." But, after much back and forth between TD and RJ, RJ reported his pesky Pregame lawyers had ultimately nixed the whole thing. Shocking.
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

No, you don't have the first clue where lines are going to close. You beat your chest when you beat a closer by a half point and then ignore the times the market shits all over your bets. There's a reason your current claim to fame is bragging that you got a line move right by saying "Jax +11 will close lower" when you made that prediction when the current line was +10.5 -116.



Maybe don't tweet out a bet that you "fired in blindly" claiming it was a "best bet" if you weren't trying to freeroll on it? Also why would someone who spends his nights betting $90 "in the run" who's "a grinder who bets nickels" even when the cameras are rolling be betting into dime openers "blindly?"

When you beat your chest about beating an opener, and say it's not worth your time to bet an arb with $400 of EV, but consistently discount your $25 packages to $15 "if you buy my package today!" despite supposedly being up 110 or 120 units or whatever on your fictional BLAP program, you tip your hand that you aren't actually betting significant money on any of the crap you release to your supposed BLAP program.



Anyone who is a pro bettor that managed to lose -210 units over 7 seasons with an average bet size of 2u despite Bodog/SIA numbers, numbers that were as much as 4 days stale, and needs to offer $10 discounts just to get suckers to buy $15 picks packages needs to stop calling himself a "pro bettor."

When even your biggest fanboys are leaving the stable, you know you're in trouble. Once BigDaddy announces he's done supporting you, you know you're fucked, and I told him I'll pay off A-trains debt if Johnny ever pays me the 10k he owes, so you better hope Johnny keeps stiffing me!


Exactly .......

This dude is a fucking clown and a lot of People still think he is sharp.

The only thing sharp about this clown is he knows how to follow the MOVES and the Better Bettors who move the lines.

This guy is a FRAUD 100%

:LMAO
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year

So what did say?

Get the Don Best odds service ..... sit there and wait for an opener to move. Call that book and see if they will tell you who bet it or if it was a sharp bet or not....

Call another book hoping to get the first line. If you get it claim it's your bet and give it out in hopes someone with real money willing to risk THEIR money will bet it and move it more.

Claim you are handicapping this shit ......

Bet the other side later because in reality all you want is to make $25 to $100 dollars on your bet but don't tell anyone that as that would expose you even though you expose yourself begging for money buy selling other REAL Bettors plays for shit money!

A begging tout is not a winning gambler...... That's "1 + 1 = 2" shit ........ Even a child knows he is full of shit.

And 1000 ignorant Americans actually cared what you said...............

:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
 
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