Fezzik Total Play Of The Year
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High Times
EOG Master
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All I know is I could have begged for money too from the American Idiot sports Bettor like Fezzik and so many other lowlife touts .........................
But some of us have integrity
All I know is I could have begged for money too from the American Idiot sports Bettor like Fezzik and so many other lowlife touts .........................
But some of us have integrity
High Times
EOG Master
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We had many Bettors (even the sharpest of the sharps) call us and asked us who played that game.....
Even BW
We would tell the real Bettors but would never let the Fezzik types or the middler/scalpers know.... Those are the pain in the asses Bettors.
We had many Bettors (even the sharpest of the sharps) call us and asked us who played that game.....
Even BW
We would tell the real Bettors but would never let the Fezzik types or the middler/scalpers know.... Those are the pain in the asses Bettors.
Chuck Sims
EOG Dedicated
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Who can forget Fezzik at Fezzik's Place challenging all comers. A couple posters took him up on his challenge. Fezzik took it up the ass and lost. The next year many posters wanted to challenge Fezzik. Fezzik passed.
Who can forget Fezzik at Fezzik's Place challenging all comers. A couple posters took him up on his challenge. Fezzik took it up the ass and lost. The next year many posters wanted to challenge Fezzik. Fezzik passed.
andyfezzik
EOG Addicted
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Fez just posted this: "YOU CAN PICK the location of any major sports book in Vegas, and I will bet you I am up VS THAT BOOK the last two years betting, not using my records, but THEIRS". No takers? Groovin... Groovin... Groovin?
Fez just posted this: "YOU CAN PICK the location of any major sports book in Vegas, and I will bet you I am up VS THAT BOOK the last two years betting, not using my records, but THEIRS". No takers? Groovin... Groovin... Groovin?
Discreet Cat
EOG Dedicated
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Because sportsbooks are going to let Fezzik (and a guest) just walk around the counter and access their private computer records.
Because sportsbooks are going to let Fezzik (and a guest) just walk around the counter and access their private computer records.
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year
Why kill the Golden Goose?
VACCARO: "Yeah, he's killin us."
KORNEGAY: "Steve kills us. But it's worth it for us to book him, to know which way to move the #."
Why kill the Golden Goose?
VACCARO: "Yeah, he's killin us."
KORNEGAY: "Steve kills us. But it's worth it for us to book him, to know which way to move the #."
High Times
EOG Master
Discreet Cat
EOG Dedicated
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Come to think of it, even if a book did allow people to look at their private records, they wouldn't necessarily be accurate anyway. Because unless you're using a player's card, the only bets that would be recorded are those that go above a certain threshold. So you could make 5 different bets that lose (and go unrecorded), then make 2 bets that win (and are recorded), and the book's records would be showing 2-0 (instead of the more accurate 2-5).
Also, they might record payouts on smaller bets that were never recorded at all, such as a large parlay card score (where again, countless losing bets go unrecorded).
Come to think of it, even if a book did allow people to look at their private records, they wouldn't necessarily be accurate anyway. Because unless you're using a player's card, the only bets that would be recorded are those that go above a certain threshold. So you could make 5 different bets that lose (and go unrecorded), then make 2 bets that win (and are recorded), and the book's records would be showing 2-0 (instead of the more accurate 2-5).
Also, they might record payouts on smaller bets that were never recorded at all, such as a large parlay card score (where again, countless losing bets go unrecorded).
andyfezzik
EOG Addicted
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year
Fez is good friends with most of the managers - I'm sure they would be happy to print out a profit/loss statement for him with a witness present. Shouldn't affect the bet would just be no action if a statement can't be obtained.
Fez is good friends with most of the managers - I'm sure they would be happy to print out a profit/loss statement for him with a witness present. Shouldn't affect the bet would just be no action if a statement can't be obtained.
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year
I'm being accused of being a loser.
I am ready willing and able to show I'm winning.
THE TRUE sharps are thinking "Big f***** N deal.........everyone wins vs. those vegas shops". I am amazed NO ONE at this forum has posted this........how out of touch is this board ?
I'm being accused of being a loser.
I am ready willing and able to show I'm winning.
THE TRUE sharps are thinking "Big f***** N deal.........everyone wins vs. those vegas shops". I am amazed NO ONE at this forum has posted this........how out of touch is this board ?
Woodrow Wilson
EOG Dedicated
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I agree with you that winning 400k in two years from contests is impressive, but that also doesn't prove they won for those years. That's the same logic you've used with your reply.
I agree with you that winning 400k in two years from contests is impressive, but that also doesn't prove they won for those years. That's the same logic you've used with your reply.
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Why are you "touting" picks for $25 a throw & taking abuse left,right and center.Wasting hours upon hours making videos and posting content for pregame? Which in turn lines Randall Busacks pocket.
If you are infact winning,would it not be easier just to work away in the background,like some blokes do.
Serious question,I am a dick from England remember.
Why are you "touting" picks for $25 a throw & taking abuse left,right and center.Wasting hours upon hours making videos and posting content for pregame? Which in turn lines Randall Busacks pocket.
If you are infact winning,would it not be easier just to work away in the background,like some blokes do.
GameBred
I Trade Therefore I Am
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I say you are not a winner.
How can such a contradiction exist?
Let's ponder the implications of that.
It will be more productive than waiting for you to answer the question as to why your touting records prior to Pregame were all expunged from the PG Boards. It is because you are winner, right?
I have no vendetta against you, just tired of all your bullshit. Look, sometimes you have to know when the earn is up. It seems that it has been up for you for awhile, why not go out with some pride and dignity than revert to lying and stealing from people?
I say you are not a winner.
How can such a contradiction exist?
Let's ponder the implications of that.
It will be more productive than waiting for you to answer the question as to why your touting records prior to Pregame were all expunged from the PG Boards. It is because you are winner, right?
I have no vendetta against you, just tired of all your bullshit. Look, sometimes you have to know when the earn is up. It seems that it has been up for you for awhile, why not go out with some pride and dignity than revert to lying and stealing from people?
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Many sportsbook managers like Art Manteris at Stations, or whatever shithead calls the shots at William Hill, are quick to sanction or completely boot winners, yet they're friends with Fezzik and roll out the red carpet for him. Makes you wonder.
Um, it's a total freeroll. Fezzik has a long history of making these playground challenges and then declining them, i.e. last year's challenge to "beat Fezzik's record" where wanted to bet 10k or 100k or some ridiculous figure on a cherry picked 6 years of Hilton results, rather than use his lifetime Hilton record or his actual service plays record. Some people offered to take him up on the challenge and he and RJ withdrew the challenge, saying "Our lawyers advised us against us." What kind of moron goes all over the radio, internet, etc making a challenge like that BEFORE they consult the lawyers???
And as Discreet Cat pointed out, there are countless ways losing bets could be unrecorded.
Many sportsbook managers like Art Manteris at Stations, or whatever shithead calls the shots at William Hill, are quick to sanction or completely boot winners, yet they're friends with Fezzik and roll out the red carpet for him. Makes you wonder.
Um, it's a total freeroll. Fezzik has a long history of making these playground challenges and then declining them, i.e. last year's challenge to "beat Fezzik's record" where wanted to bet 10k or 100k or some ridiculous figure on a cherry picked 6 years of Hilton results, rather than use his lifetime Hilton record or his actual service plays record. Some people offered to take him up on the challenge and he and RJ withdrew the challenge, saying "Our lawyers advised us against us." What kind of moron goes all over the radio, internet, etc making a challenge like that BEFORE they consult the lawyers???
And as Discreet Cat pointed out, there are countless ways losing bets could be unrecorded.
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Seriously. He claims he's up 120 units on his BLAP service where many people are easily betting 10k per game on obscure markets like CFB 3q lines, team totals, etc. Even if he's betting as little as 2 dimes a game, that's 240k of profit on the year. Yet he needs to discount his $25 packages to $15 to drum up interest, and spends his time on message boards responding to people who rant when they buy a $25 package and don't get a winner? They start ranting when the bet looks like shit in the first quarter LOL. I can't imagine how much you'd have to pay me to force me to waste my time dealing with such stupid shit. I respond to plenty of stupid shit on forums and Twitter as it is, but at least that's by choice.
Seriously. He claims he's up 120 units on his BLAP service where many people are easily betting 10k per game on obscure markets like CFB 3q lines, team totals, etc. Even if he's betting as little as 2 dimes a game, that's 240k of profit on the year. Yet he needs to discount his $25 packages to $15 to drum up interest, and spends his time on message boards responding to people who rant when they buy a $25 package and don't get a winner? They start ranting when the bet looks like shit in the first quarter LOL. I can't imagine how much you'd have to pay me to force me to waste my time dealing with such stupid shit. I respond to plenty of stupid shit on forums and Twitter as it is, but at least that's by choice.
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Yet another example of you deflecting, obfuscating, etc. No one gives a shit about winning in your own personal betting. Anyone with a brain cell and a modicum of a bankroll is routinely betting stuff that nobody else could follow.
You had the most respected trackers on gambling forums (JoeFlex and ComptrBob) tracking your records for 5 seasons and you lost your ass. You move to Pregame and suddenly it's "If ComptrBob cares so much about tracking me, he can buy my service." GTFO. Instead of being able to say "I'm winning, ComptrBob tracked me at +Xu over the past Y years." Instead we get a past-posted BLAP service that has no subscribers and a slightly less past-posted system log (an hour after the game starts instead of after the game ends) rife with grading errors, technical glitches, bogus lines, etc.
Actually, THE TRUE sharps are wondering why the hell these places roll out the red carpet for you, letting you bet under your real name on a players card, when several of these shops are booting winners left and right, denying action, etc.
Yet another example of you deflecting, obfuscating, etc. No one gives a shit about winning in your own personal betting. Anyone with a brain cell and a modicum of a bankroll is routinely betting stuff that nobody else could follow.
You had the most respected trackers on gambling forums (JoeFlex and ComptrBob) tracking your records for 5 seasons and you lost your ass. You move to Pregame and suddenly it's "If ComptrBob cares so much about tracking me, he can buy my service." GTFO. Instead of being able to say "I'm winning, ComptrBob tracked me at +Xu over the past Y years." Instead we get a past-posted BLAP service that has no subscribers and a slightly less past-posted system log (an hour after the game starts instead of after the game ends) rife with grading errors, technical glitches, bogus lines, etc.
Actually, THE TRUE sharps are wondering why the hell these places roll out the red carpet for you, letting you bet under your real name on a players card, when several of these shops are booting winners left and right, denying action, etc.
texaswizzard
EOG Dedicated
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OK, so let's think about this now and put everything into perspective. RJ Bell is now so excited that in a two year period his company's sales grew from 1.1 million to 2.3 million and he's one of the 5,000 fastest growing companies in the United States. He's the one making the Lion's Share of the money not these broke dick handicappers. There are now 25 handicappers in the Pregame Donkey Stable. I f they get 30-40% of what they bring in it's a nice side job or probably in most of their cases more than half of what they pull in. Let's say Fezzik brings in 20% of that pie which he probably doesn't. That's $460,000.00 and you take 40% of that it's $184,000.00. Fezzik probably is making about $150,000.00 a year to do all the videos and selling for Randall. Not bad but if he was really smart he'd just open up his own site and make at least double that, $300,000.00 - $500,000.00. Most Pregame handicappers are only probably making 30K to 50K per year from Pregame. The guy making some pretty big money is Randall. Randall probably is making $400,000.00 - $600,000.00 from Pregame per year plus what he also makes on kickbacks from the offshore sites on the percentage from the losing clients losses.
OK, so let's think about this now and put everything into perspective. RJ Bell is now so excited that in a two year period his company's sales grew from 1.1 million to 2.3 million and he's one of the 5,000 fastest growing companies in the United States. He's the one making the Lion's Share of the money not these broke dick handicappers. There are now 25 handicappers in the Pregame Donkey Stable. I f they get 30-40% of what they bring in it's a nice side job or probably in most of their cases more than half of what they pull in. Let's say Fezzik brings in 20% of that pie which he probably doesn't. That's $460,000.00 and you take 40% of that it's $184,000.00. Fezzik probably is making about $150,000.00 a year to do all the videos and selling for Randall. Not bad but if he was really smart he'd just open up his own site and make at least double that, $300,000.00 - $500,000.00. Most Pregame handicappers are only probably making 30K to 50K per year from Pregame. The guy making some pretty big money is Randall. Randall probably is making $400,000.00 - $600,000.00 from Pregame per year plus what he also makes on kickbacks from the offshore sites on the percentage from the losing clients losses.
Sleepy
EOG Master
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I say way less than that. If some of these guys get compensation just based on sales they got to be making well under 10k per year.
I say way less than that. If some of these guys get compensation just based on sales they got to be making well under 10k per year.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
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Fezz....boy did you ever jump to the dark side after winning a couple contests....I have always said congrats to you on that accomplishment but your record since then is not very good...in fact it is embarrassing.....the tout world has swallowed you up and you don't know if you are coming or going....you sold your soul to the devil to make some easy cash but everyone knows you are not a winning gambler betting -110 everyday.....doesn't make you a bad guy, just not a winner lifetime....
Fezz....boy did you ever jump to the dark side after winning a couple contests....I have always said congrats to you on that accomplishment but your record since then is not very good...in fact it is embarrassing.....the tout world has swallowed you up and you don't know if you are coming or going....you sold your soul to the devil to make some easy cash but everyone knows you are not a winning gambler betting -110 everyday.....doesn't make you a bad guy, just not a winner lifetime....
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Steven,these are serious questions.There is little to no abuse.
Could you please answer a simple question for us all.
If you are a winner,why would you line Randalls pockets & plus,in turn,open yourself up to all the abuse you take ?
Steven,these are serious questions.There is little to no abuse.
Could you please answer a simple question for us all.
If you are a winner,why would you line Randalls pockets & plus,in turn,open yourself up to all the abuse you take ?
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year
Despite being up 120 units on the year with "5 or 10" customers paying $1000/mo for his BLAP plays, Fezzik had to discount his weekend's "all access pass" from $79 to $59 to drum up more business. I know if I were up 120 units on the year, my main concern would be discounting by $20 to sell more weekend packages rather than, like, betting and stuff.
Despite being up 120 units on the year with "5 or 10" customers paying $1000/mo for his BLAP plays, Fezzik had to discount his weekend's "all access pass" from $79 to $59 to drum up more business. I know if I were up 120 units on the year, my main concern would be discounting by $20 to sell more weekend packages rather than, like, betting and stuff.
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His other current scam is making predictions of line movement based on bogus lines, i.e. when Pinny's dealing JAX +10.5 -116, he boldly predicts that JAX +11 will close worse. Then Pinny closes at around the same line they were at when he made his prediction and he pats himself on the back while RJ fellates him over his great prediction.
His other current scam is making predictions of line movement based on bogus lines, i.e. when Pinny's dealing JAX +10.5 -116, he boldly predicts that JAX +11 will close worse. Then Pinny closes at around the same line they were at when he made his prediction and he pats himself on the back while RJ fellates him over his great prediction.
andyfezzik
EOG Addicted
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For a guy who claims to have a 3% ROI, Groovin sure spends a lot of time trolling the internet. Shouldn't his main concern be ... "betting and stuff"? Apparently not.
At least Fez gets paid for his work at Pregame. Groovin' doesn't get a dime from all his long winded rants.
For a guy who claims to have a 3% ROI, Groovin sure spends a lot of time trolling the internet. Shouldn't his main concern be ... "betting and stuff"? Apparently not.
At least Fez gets paid for his work at Pregame. Groovin' doesn't get a dime from all his long winded rants.
Discreet Cat
EOG Dedicated
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Too bad he doesn't have a brother to help share the load.
Too bad he doesn't have a brother to help share the load.
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Only in the world of the tout frauds is posting accurate information about these touts "trolling." Yes, the two minutes I spent posting at 7pm Pacific sure cut into my betting time. It's quite easy to multitask when writing a forum post, when that's not possible when you're recording videos, podcasts etc trying to get people to buy your shitty picks.
I suppose it would be a more lucrative use of my time to send people emails pretending to be a rich African widow who needs help getting her husband's money out of the bank, or selling bogus cancer treatments, or selling those "magical" wrist bands, but I'm actually competent enough at betting that I don't need to run a con on people. All of the time I spend posting about these lousy losing touts at least saves people money, while also keeping money in the betting pool, so everybody profits, other than the touts.
Only in the world of the tout frauds is posting accurate information about these touts "trolling." Yes, the two minutes I spent posting at 7pm Pacific sure cut into my betting time. It's quite easy to multitask when writing a forum post, when that's not possible when you're recording videos, podcasts etc trying to get people to buy your shitty picks.
I suppose it would be a more lucrative use of my time to send people emails pretending to be a rich African widow who needs help getting her husband's money out of the bank, or selling bogus cancer treatments, or selling those "magical" wrist bands, but I'm actually competent enough at betting that I don't need to run a con on people. All of the time I spend posting about these lousy losing touts at least saves people money, while also keeping money in the betting pool, so everybody profits, other than the touts.
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LOL. The vast majority of that "125 units" comes from the fictional BLAP service, where "5 or 10 subscribers" happily bet 5 figures on CFB quarters, props etc without touching the screen, yet never once post to Pregame. Many people have asked "How do I subscribe to BLAP, are there any testimonials from BLAP subscribers" and gotten crickets, in addition to Johnny Detroit's late night post here about how "Fezzik doesn't sell subscriptions."
Pretty funny how, in months when Fezzik gets crushed on the individual picks he sells, all sorts of mystery BLAP plays (props, quarters, halftimes etc) show up in the record, but when he does ok on those picks, BLAP basically gets the same plays everybody else gets. This weekend he's selling every play BLAP gets, 4 days worth for $59. You'd think these $1000 BLAP subscribers would be livid that not only are others getting their BLAP-specific plays for more than half off, but now they have to compete with a bunch of other people for the lines, but no, not a peep out of any of these BLAP subscribers.
Steam chasing 101 from Fezzik today. 803/804 gets hit from un128.5 flat to un128.5 un -118, so after seeing the line move, posts the play labeled as "un128.5 -110 Bookmaker, bet ASAP!" Pinnacle closed no-vig un127.5 +109. Nice job. As Fezzik reminds us "only results matter," beating the line move doesn't, except when you're going to brag about being "16-1 predicting line moves" where you use the best possible line for "current line" and worst possible line for "closer," i.e. boldly predicting "JAX +11 will close worse" when Pinny was dealing +10.5 -116 when you made that prediction and closed right around there.
As far as why does Fezzik sell picks when he's supposedly up 125 units on the year, his pal Bryan Leonard probably said in best when, in response to criticism about some tout issue, Bryan said he is always motivated because "Selling picks pays the bills." It's not betting that pays the bills with these guys, it's selling picks.
LOL. The vast majority of that "125 units" comes from the fictional BLAP service, where "5 or 10 subscribers" happily bet 5 figures on CFB quarters, props etc without touching the screen, yet never once post to Pregame. Many people have asked "How do I subscribe to BLAP, are there any testimonials from BLAP subscribers" and gotten crickets, in addition to Johnny Detroit's late night post here about how "Fezzik doesn't sell subscriptions."
Pretty funny how, in months when Fezzik gets crushed on the individual picks he sells, all sorts of mystery BLAP plays (props, quarters, halftimes etc) show up in the record, but when he does ok on those picks, BLAP basically gets the same plays everybody else gets. This weekend he's selling every play BLAP gets, 4 days worth for $59. You'd think these $1000 BLAP subscribers would be livid that not only are others getting their BLAP-specific plays for more than half off, but now they have to compete with a bunch of other people for the lines, but no, not a peep out of any of these BLAP subscribers.
Steam chasing 101 from Fezzik today. 803/804 gets hit from un128.5 flat to un128.5 un -118, so after seeing the line move, posts the play labeled as "un128.5 -110 Bookmaker, bet ASAP!" Pinnacle closed no-vig un127.5 +109. Nice job. As Fezzik reminds us "only results matter," beating the line move doesn't, except when you're going to brag about being "16-1 predicting line moves" where you use the best possible line for "current line" and worst possible line for "closer," i.e. boldly predicting "JAX +11 will close worse" when Pinny was dealing +10.5 -116 when you made that prediction and closed right around there.
As far as why does Fezzik sell picks when he's supposedly up 125 units on the year, his pal Bryan Leonard probably said in best when, in response to criticism about some tout issue, Bryan said he is always motivated because "Selling picks pays the bills." It's not betting that pays the bills with these guys, it's selling picks.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
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The internet has made some terrible gamblers just a bit better.....
I have respect for those who made money before the computer age.....
For offshore it was like printing money before the net.....
These touts take the info from the screen and books and twist the news anyway they want....all they have to see is one move and then all of a sudden games of the month and year are flying all over....and everyone says that they were the originator......some funny stuff......
The internet has made some terrible gamblers just a bit better.....
I have respect for those who made money before the computer age.....
For offshore it was like printing money before the net.....
These touts take the info from the screen and books and twist the news anyway they want....all they have to see is one move and then all of a sudden games of the month and year are flying all over....and everyone says that they were the originator......some funny stuff......
Jalapanose
EOG Member
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year
Cliffs: clowns bovi and fezzik get pwned as usual by groovin. It's never even close. Scrappy doo discreet cat (whose "capping" typically consists of such fezzikian gems as "we are getting an ace pitcher at a non ace price") keeps coming in with his dinosaur arms trying to pile on. DC, leave the heavy lifting to the master groovin, please.
Cliffs: clowns bovi and fezzik get pwned as usual by groovin. It's never even close. Scrappy doo discreet cat (whose "capping" typically consists of such fezzikian gems as "we are getting an ace pitcher at a non ace price") keeps coming in with his dinosaur arms trying to pile on. DC, leave the heavy lifting to the master groovin, please.
Discreet Cat
EOG Dedicated
Re: Fezzik Total Play Of The Year
It would've been nice to be in Vegas back in the 70's or 80's when places were all dealing different numbers, and booking horseracing at fixed odds.
It would've been nice to be in Vegas back in the 70's or 80's when places were all dealing different numbers, and booking horseracing at fixed odds.
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Well done..
You`ll be top of the table at Randalls Christmas get together.
Why can you not answer the simple question ?
Well done..
You`ll be top of the table at Randalls Christmas get together.
Why can you not answer the simple question ?
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Don't forget all the time that Andy has to spend as a Ghost posting under Vinny Rombli and all the other stupid names to shill for his brother and make stupid lying claims like he's a documented 60%. What do you think Fezz pays Andy for that? Minimum wage? Andy is even more pathetic that Fezz. Just think how shitty you have to be to be the "other" brother to Fezzik
Don't forget all the time that Andy has to spend as a Ghost posting under Vinny Rombli and all the other stupid names to shill for his brother and make stupid lying claims like he's a documented 60%. What do you think Fezz pays Andy for that? Minimum wage? Andy is even more pathetic that Fezz. Just think how shitty you have to be to be the "other" brother to Fezzik
Discreet Cat
EOG Dedicated
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LOL thanks. I'll try to forgo posting any actual thoughts I might have.
Btw, I'm up 592 units this year.
LOL thanks. I'll try to forgo posting any actual thoughts I might have.
Btw, I'm up 592 units this year.
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Im not sure that "Andy" Fezzik & "Steve" Fezzik are not one and the same,given the behaviour of the "Andy" Fezzik account over various social media platforms.