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Jailed U.S. Journalists Pardoned, Expected to Return Home From North Korea

North Korean leader Kim Jong Il pardons two American reporters after Bill Clinton makes a surprise visit to the communist nation to negotiate their release.


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Tuesday, August 04, 2009
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Aug. 4: Former President Bill Clinton shakes hands with Yang Hyong Sop, vice president of the Presidium of the Supreme People's Assembly of North Korea, in Pyongyang. (AP/Xinhua)

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The two American journalists jailed in North Korea have been pardoned, state media reported Tuesday, and are expected to return home with former President Bill Clinton.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Il issued a "special pardon" for the reporters after Clinton made a surprise visit to the communist nation to negotiate their release. The release of Laura Ling and Euna Lee was a sign of North Korea's "humanitarian and peaceloving policy," the Korean Central News Agency reported.
During the visit, Clinton met with Kim as well as the two reporters, who were sentenced in June to 12 years of hard labor after North Korea accused them of sneaking into the country illegally and engaging in "hostile acts."
The public breakthrough in talks was reached in the course of a day. But sources said the framework for the journalists' release had been negotiated ahead of time.
Through a representative, the families of the reporters released a statement saying they were "overjoyed" at the news.
"We are so grateful to our government: President Obama, Secretary Clinton and the U.S. State Department for their dedication to and hard work on behalf of American citizens," the statement said. "We especially want to thank President Bill Clinton for taking on such an arduous mission and Vice President Al Gore for his tireless efforts to bring Laura and Euna home. We must also thank all the people who have supported our families through this ordeal, it has meant the world to us. We are counting the seconds to hold Laura and Euna in our arms."
Clinton's private plane is still on the ground, sources said, and the White House is not yet offering details on the mission.
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, who was peppered with questions about the matter at the daily press briefing, said the main concern is for the safety of the journalists.
"I think we're obviously talking about something that's extremely sensitive," he said earlier. "We will have more to say on this hopefully later on."
Gibbs revealed little beyond the terse written statement his office put out Tuesday morning. The statement called Clinton's visit a "solely private mission" to secure the journalists' release and said the White House would not "jeopardize" his success by commenting.
Though analysts said Clinton must have coordinated closely with the administration, Gibbs denied a report in state media that said Clinton conveyed a verbal message to Kim from President Obama.
"That's not true," Gibbs said.
North Korea's state media said Kim and Clinton held "exhaustive" talks on a wide range of topics. Kim expressed his thanks, and engaged Clinton in a "wide-ranging exchange of views on matters of common concern," the official Korean Central News Agency said in a report from Pyongyang.
Clinton landed Tuesday morning in the North Korean capital in an unmarked jet. After greeting North Korea's chief nuclear negotiator and a high-ranking parliamentary official, he bowed and smiled as a young girl presented him with flowers, a red scarf tied around her neck, according to footage aired by television news agency APTN.
The unusually warm exchange Tuesday between officials from communist North Korea and the ex-leader of a wartime foe came amid heightened tensions between Washington and Pyongyang over the regime's nuclear program. In recent months, North Korea has abandoned a disarmament pact, launched a long-range rocket, conducted a nuclear test and test-fired a barrage of ballistic missiles in defiance of the U.N. Security Council.
Clinton made the trip to secure the release of two reporters for former Vice President Al Gore's California-based Current TV media venture who were arrested along the North Korean-Chinese border in March.
The U.S. and North Korea do not have diplomatic relations, but officials were believed to be working behind the scenes to negotiate their release.
Clinton, whose administration had relatively good relations with Pyongyang; Gore, his vice president; and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who in the 1990s traveled twice to North Korea to secure the freedom of detained Americans, had all been floated as possible envoys to bring back Lee and Ling.
However, the decision to send Clinton was kept quiet. A senior U.S. official later confirmed to reporters traveling to Africa with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that the former president was in North Korea.
North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency announced Clinton's visit with a brief dispatch but did not say who he would be meeting during his trip.
But analysts said Kim Jong Il was eager to smooth over relations with Washington as he prepares to name a successor.
Kim, 67, reportedly is in ill health, suffering a stroke a year ago on top of chronic diabetes and heart disease. He rules the impoverished communist nation of 24 million with absolute authority, but has not publicly named the next leader. He is believed, however, to be grooming his third son, 26-year-old Jong Un, to take over.
Internal stability is key to a smooth transition, and establishing relations with Washington would be one way to rule out a threat from a superpower that has 28,500 troops stationed just on the other side of the border with South Korea, analysts said. The two Koreas remain technically at war because their three-year conflict ended in a truce, not a peace treaty, in 1953.
Releasing the journalists would serve as a face-saving segue into talks, analysts said.
During a nuclear standoff with North Korean in 1994, former President Jimmy Carter went to Pyongyang and met with leader Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il's late father. That visit, during Clinton's presidency, led to a breakthrough accord months later.
The last high-ranking U.S. official to meet with Kim Jong Il was Madeleine Albright, Clinton's secretary of state, who visited Pyongyang in 2000 at a time of warming relations. Ties turned frosty when George W. Bush took office in the White House in 2001.
Since Obama took office, Pyongyang has expressed interest in one-on-one negotiations with Washington. The latest provocations were seen in part as a way to draw a concerned U.S. into bilateral talks.
Washington says it is willing to hold such talks with the North, but only within the framework of international disarmament negotiations in place since 2003. Those talks involve China, Japan, the two Koreas, Russia and the United States. North Korea has said it will never return to the six-nation disarmament process.
Lee and Ling were captured in North Korea's far northeast in the midst of the nuclear standoff. They had traveled to the border region in China to report on women and children defectors from North Korea.
Their families and U.S. officials had pushed for their release, noting that Ling has a medical condition and that Lee has a 4-year-old daughter.
Hillary Clinton had urged North Korea to grant them amnesty, saying the women were remorseful and their families anguished.
FOX News' Jennifer Griffin and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

roscoe

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Re: good job president obama and clinton

clinton didn't just decide to take a vacation to north korea!
 

tank

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Re: good job president obama and clinton

Will one of them be wearing a blue dress by chance?
 
Re: good job president obama and clinton

Good job, Clinton! 91023i2ndw;l

Obama though? What'd he do?

Clinton just wanted to get away from Hillary and get some foreign pussy. That is the only reason he went. Can't say as I blame him -- That Asian poon tang is some of the best there is.
 

Spytheweb

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Clinton just wanted to get away from Hillary and get some foreign pussy. That is the only reason he went. Can't say as I blame him -- That Asian poon tang is some of the best there is.

Just picture that fake cowboy Bush going. Hey Bush what happened to your ranch? It was just for show, suckers.
 

PassTheRock

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Re: good job president obama and clinton

Not sure what Bush has to do with this. But Obama WILL steal the credit for this...somehow.
 

Spytheweb

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Re: good job president obama and clinton

Not sure what Bush has to do with this. But Obama WILL steal the credit for this...somehow.

Bush is not the one who saves American lives, or builds homes for poor people. The fact that a democrat did this saids enough.

 

PassTheRock

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Re: good job president obama and clinton

I could not agree more. Good Job, Clinton!!!

I could not saids more than that!

Good job, Bill!!!

Bush is not the one who saves American lives, or builds homes for poor people. The fact that a democrat did this saids enough.

 

Spytheweb

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Re: good job president obama and clinton

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." --LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000- George W Bush.

I'am only a average guy, this guy was President.

 
Re: good job president obama and clinton

An outstanding job accomplished by the Obama Administration, The State Department, and President Clinton. This would not have been accomplished by the previous administration. Just goes to show that you can't always negotiate with the barrel of a gun.
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
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Very well managed exercise for public consumption,but what's this supposed to lead to?
The "journalists" are tools,as are the "hikers" in Iran;make connections beyond what the mainstream [corporate] media presents,to know what's really going on.

Bill Clinton?s visit to North Korea:
a tactical shift in US foreign policy

By John Chan
6 August 2009

Excerpts From:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/aug2009/nkcl-a06.shtml

In a move that surprised the world, former US President Bill Clinton arrived in North Korea Tuesday[8/4/2009] to broker the release of two American journalists detained since March. Described by the Obama administration as a private mission, the visit actually signalled Washington?s desire to put aside North Korea?s nuclear crisis in order to prepare for a confrontation with Iran.

The KCNA [Korean Central News Agency] reported that Clinton carried a message from President Obama, but White House spokesman Robert Gibbs denied the claim. He insisted it was ?a private mission? for humanitarian purposes only. In order to separate Clinton?s trip from the Obama administration?s official policy on North Korea, no current government officials travelled with the ex-president. And Clinton was travelling in a privately chartered jet, not a government plane.

In reality, Clinton?s visit was the result of secretive negotiations between Washington and Pyongyang. With no advance notice to the world, the Obama administration agreed to send Clinton to North Korea a month ago, at the special request of Pyongyang, according to the Wall Street Journal. ?Current and former US officials said Tuesday they believed Kim Jong Il was seeking to turn back the clock and resurrect a relationship with Mr. Clinton that came close to formally ending the Korean War in late 2000,? the Journal reported.

The political objective of Clinton?s trip was to prepare the conditions for North Korea to return to some kind of negotiation with the US, thereby putting aside Pyongyang?s ?nuclear crisis?, at least for now.
The Obama administration?s priority in terms of US foreign policy is to exploit the divisions within the Iranian regime. The past week has seen US threats to cut exports of refined petroleum to Iran, in order to pressure Tehran to stop its nuclear program and to increase political instability within the country in the hope of bringing to power a section of the Iranian elite prepared to offer closer cooperation with the US occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq.

In sending Clinton to Pyongyang for the release of two US journalists, Washington was also sending a message to Tehran?which also detained three Americans on the Iran-Iraq borders last week?that the US is open to talks. Another possible consideration is that of weakening Chinese and Russian opposition to tough sanctions against Iran?s nuclear program on the UN Security Council. By signalling a more moderate approach, Washington may hope to win a more favourable response from Beijing and Moscow at the UN.

The Washington Post Tuesday[8/4/2009] cited a source involved in planning Clinton?s trip to North Korea who said that the Obama administration had initially chosen former Vice President Al Gore, who co-founded the San Francisco-based Current TV channel that employed the two American journalists.

Pyongyang, however, wanted a more prestigious figure, in order to use his presence to express its desire for normalising relations with the US and to shore up the fragile regime of Kim Jong-il before the North Korean masses. With Kim having reportedly suffered a stroke last year, the question of succession looms large in Pyongyang. Amid a deepening economic crisis, this can lead to political instability.

For all the talk of North Korea?s failure to fulfil its promises of abandoning its nuclear program, the record since the 1990s shows that it is the US government?under both Democrat and Republican?that is responsible for North Korea?s ?nuclear crisis?. Pyongyang?s nuclear program is a convenient pretext for the US to ratchet up tensions in Northeast Asia, justifying its ongoing heavy military presence in South Korea and Japan, which can be used against its great-power rivals, especially China. Clinton?s supposed diplomatic coup in Pyongyang is only a tactical move, which can be reversed quickly, depending upon Washington?s immediate needs in its bid to maintain its global hegemony.

Already, the most militaristic elements in the US ruling circles are attacking Clinton?s visit. Bush?s UN ambassador, John Bolton, declared: ?This is a reward for hostage-taking. Will Bill be off to Tehran next to get those backpackers out??
 

scrimmage

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Re: good job president obama and clinton

Malcolm X decades ago spoke about the press and its image making role;in the present,Bill Clinton's North Korean "rescue" operation,was carefully managed to be camera/TV friendly by his movie producer friend Steve Bing and the Hollywood PR Firm Rogers and Cowan.
BTW,the 2 so called "journalists" were working[in what capacity?]for Al Gore's company current TV when they were captured.

BILL'S H'WOOD
BLOCKBUSTER

MOVIE MOGUL, P.R. FIRM
STAGED RETURN 'SPECIAL'

By GEOFF EARLE, Post Correspondent
From:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08062009/news/nationalnews/bills_hwood_blockbuster_183236.htm

WASHINGTON -- Bill Clinton's triumphant return from North Korea with two rescued US journalists had Hollywood written all over it -- from the Burbank airport to the big-time producer who bankrolled the expedition to the celebrity public-relations firm that orchestrated the homecoming.
A key player in Clinton's high-flying diplomatic mission to rescue Laura Ling and Euna Lee was entertainment mogul Steve Bing, a longtime "Friend of Bill" who lent the ex-president his private Boeing 737.
The multimillionaire mogul paid about $200,000 in fuel and other costs that came with the trans-Pacific flight.
Bing's Shangri-La entertainment firm also funded a major logistical effort to carefully showcase Clinton's arrival in Tinseltown -- which featured Ling lauding the former president while almost in tears.


CUT! Former President Clinton (right) with movie mogul Steve Bing at
yesterday's event,engineered by Bing's Tinseltown firm.

The company knows a blockbuster when it sees one, having produced Tom Hanks' "Polar Express," "Beowulf," starring Crispin Glover and Angelina Jolie, and Martin Scorsese's 2008 Rolling Stones rock-umentary, "Shine a Light," filmed at Clinton's 60th birthday bash at the Beacon Theater on the Upper West Side.

Hollywood p.r. firm Rogers & Cowan, which represents Bing along with a bevy of A-list celebs, began organizing the arrival ceremony after it got word Tuesday morning[8/5/2009] -- while Clinton was still on the ground in Pyongyang -- to get ready, according to a Hollywood source.
The firm chose as its venue Hangar 25 at Bob Hope International Airport in Burbank, a solar-powered facility that has hosted other press events.

Bing is a major financial backer of Bill and Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party and environmental causes, and has a business constructing environmentally friendly hangars.

Staffers put together three press risers to accommodate more than 100 media and TV crews, and contracted an in-house photographer to capture the event.
The p.r. firm closely coordinated with Bill Clinton's foundation, which worked with former Vice President Al Gore's Current TV to have family members on hand for the homecoming.

The journalists were working for Gore's company when they were captured along the North Korean/Chinese border.

When Lee stepped off the jet before 6 a.m. yesterday morning, she was greeted by her husband, Michael Saldate, and 4-year-old daughter, Hana, whom she hugged. Ling embraced her husband, Iain Clayton, amid a crowd of tearful family members.

Stepping before the cameras, Ling -- who, like Lee, had been sentenced to 12 years of hard labor -- fought back tears as she described the moment when she first saw Clinton.
"Thirty hours ago, Euna Lee and I were prisoners in North Korea," she said. "We feared that at any moment we could be prisoners in a hard-labor camp. Then, suddenly, we were told that we were going to a meeting.
"We were taken to a location, and when we walked through the doors, we saw, standing before us, President Bill Clinton.
"We were shocked, but we knew instantly in our hearts that the nightmare of our lives was finally coming to an end. And now we stand here home and free."

Clinton hugged Gore when he emerged from the jet, and Gore twice thanked his former boss in his own remarks.
President Obama, appearing outside the White House, called Clinton immediately after his arrival and thanked him for his "the extraordinary humanitarian effort."
 

BCTTWR

EOG Dedicated
Re: good job president obama and clinton

How soon after getting airborne did Slick Willie hit on Laura Ling? Even money he stuck a cigar in the hole of one of the two former prisoners.
 
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