Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 23.4%
  • No

    Votes: 59 76.6%

  • Total voters
    77
  • Poll closed .

pvcpipe

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

I think it's a fair question, but I think he's done a good job. The VD hire was enormous.
 

newport2

EOG Dedicated
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

I'm relatively new here, but I like this place. I do have one question. Is Rainbow a paid poster?
 

WVU

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Fair question, but the thread was created in anger over being bitch slapped in the rogue mod thread. Joey's post are a bit too brash which loses him some credibility points and his agenda takes a hit.

EOG seems to have changed a bit for the better. Less traffic for sure, but to be expected after the mutiny (CW). How do you right a ship after the founder and owner kills himself? That is a tough task for anyone and I would say that John Kelly has handled it as well as could be expected. The hiring of VD and Iceman were both great moves. I am a big fan of both of them. My only complaint with EOG is the hesitant, if any, acceptance of responsibility. Time will tell how that pans out.

overall grade 8 out of 10
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

I'm relatively new here, but I like this place. I do have one question. Is Rainbow a paid poster?

There are no paid posters here....Rainbow works for a major sportsbook...

I wouldn't put up with any employees talking back at posters the way Rainbow does...but that is just his style...
 

cheapseats

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Joey, it's easy to go to places that were like the old EOG. And it's easy to stay here and be apart of a new EOG with a direction of quality over quantity as previously mentioned. So, my point is, use this place for what it is, a growing site of handicapping, handicappers and gambling. Then roll across town to the others for whatever you feel is not here for your liking or fulfilling your needs. And no gulp, gulp, slobber-slobber, just the way it is now.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

JK, has and will bring in a better informed poster......however do the books that advertise
here really want that?

Players are like girlfriends, to wit, you don't want them too smart.
 
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Do you feel that JK made the right decision to change the forum, rather than adapt to what it was?
Unequivacably, yes.

Joey, I feel sure you will fall in the minority but most did not appreciate the drama filled gossip column that EOG had become.
 

WVU

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

JK, has and will bring in a better informed poster......however do the books that advertise
here really want that?

Players are like girlfriends, to wit, you don't want them too smart.

I taught people how to bonus hunt and only about 10% of them could actually do it. I think the books are safe here
 
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joeybagadonuts

Guest
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Fair question, but the thread was created in anger over being bitch slapped in the rogue mod thread. Joey's post are a bit too brash which loses him some credibility points and his agenda takes a hit.

EOG seems to have changed a bit for the better. Less traffic for sure, but to be expected after the mutiny (CW). How do you right a ship after the founder and owner kills himself? That is a tough task for anyone and I would say that John Kelly has handled it as well as could be expected. The hiring of VD and Iceman were both great moves. I am a big fan of both of them. My only complaint with EOG is the hesitant, if any, acceptance of responsibility. Time will tell how that pans out.

overall grade 8 out of 10

I didn't think this thread was that harsh by my standards. I kept things above the belt with JK. I was honestly curious about what the posters thought here. I also made the poll anonymous so posters could vote honestly. Looks like people think JK is doing a good job despite the fact he hasn't done any of the things he has promised. (servers still suck ass, no new big contests, no 3 day a week ww, etc) Getting VD and Ice is awesome, and JK's handicapping is 2nd to none on the forums, I just wish he would do a little more posting and mixing it up with the common folk posters.
 
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joeybagadonuts

Guest
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Unequivacably, yes.

Joey, I feel sure you will fall in the minority but most did not appreciate the drama filled gossip column that EOG had become.

It wasn't that bad, imo. I thought it was a nice mix. I could come here find some posters to fade/follow and talk a little shit. It was a nice all in one stop for me. I liked the way Ken did things here despite his many shortcomings. Everyone is titled to their own opinion and I won't attack anyone for disagreeing with me on this one. Just curious to see what people thought.
 
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Judge do you think you didnt like the joking around because you have a hard time relating to the new generations "bullshitting"? Seems its all of the older guys that had a problem and cried about a little drama.
 
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joeybagadonuts

Guest
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Interesting angle, Brick, but that actually makes a lot of sense...
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Palm Tree
Discreet Cat
Munson
JK
Heim

All these guys giving winners every week and JK improving Winning Wednesdays?

If this is failure, please give me more of the same failure...JK and Richard have come up with a plan that works for them...I am just happy to be here 95% of the time....
 

Mammon

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Joey coming back has been a failure here. Even Po adds more here now!
 

Mammon

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

By the way, good work so far VD.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Joey coming back has been a failure here. Even Po adds more here now!

Why don't you take it up with him at CW?

Do you have any future winners in football or hockey you want to discuss? Let's talk about the Phillies...

Or better yet let's talk about the Eagles vs Vick's old team this week...
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

By the way, good work so far VD.

JK and Richard give me carte blanche...they always have my back even though I make a mistake now and then like giving some guys here some of my attitude...
 
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joeybagadonuts

Guest
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Joey coming back has been a failure here. Even Po adds more here now!

Go back to the hat, you stiff drunk.
 

jam

EOG Veteran
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

I would give him a 3/10. And that is only bc he has brought on Iceman and VD. Other than that, and moving kinger to a mod, what has his clown done? All this talk about what EOG is going to do. Still haven't seen any real changes. All a much of lip service and rethortic about the 'great contests' and bringing on 'sharp guys' and getting rid of the trash. Too bad the trash is still your tech person.

I guess he hasn't got rid of the trash.
 

railbird

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Mammon and Joey Bagdonuts are cock roaches. When Weitzner ran this place it sucked here. Vd doesnt bring much actually a down tick because cock roaches have returned that Hoffa terminated. Iceman is not really a factor. JK has made great gets like JHU dad, netto, and have retained Heim. PAlm tree and Kinger are good. There is about 6 poters here that are a factor. I have named them all in this thread. I only read about 6 or 7.
 
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joeybagadonuts

Guest
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Mammon and Joey Bagdonuts are cock roaches. When Weitzner ran this place it sucked here. Vd doesnt bring much actually a down tick because cock roaches have returned that Hoffa terminated. Iceman is not really a factor. JK has made great gets like JHU dad, netto, and have retained Heim. PAlm tree and Kinger are good. There is about 6 poters here that are a factor. I have named them all in this thread. I only read about 6 or 7.
Thanks Jesus Jr. Hope you find a way to survive the imminent rapture!
 

Mammon

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Why don't you take it up with him at CW?

Do you have any future winners in football or hockey you want to discuss? Let's talk about the Phillies...

Or better yet let's talk about the Eagles vs Vick's old team this week...


Joey does not work there first. Second, I said he is a failure here! 3rd why discuss it there if he failed here. 4th Eagles<>Atl goes over. Phillies win it all. Do you need more ???
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Mammon and Joey Bagdonuts are cock roaches. When Weitzner ran this place it sucked here. Vd doesnt bring much actually a down tick because cock roaches have returned that Hoffa terminated. Iceman is not really a factor. JK has made great gets like JHU dad, netto, and have retained Heim. PAlm tree and Kinger are good. There is about 6 poters here that are a factor. I have named them all in this thread. I only read about 6 or 7.

Then PM JK and ask for a job here...I am tired of you asking me....
 

Mammon

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

And JK has actually done fine. He should be above the petty-ness or he would look like a broke dick needing the money here. As should you VD.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Don't know about a season long contest, but it could happen if enough get interested and ask....talking about the TPC at Sawgrass as the fifth....
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

And JK has actually done fine. He should be above the petty-ness or he would look like a broke dick needing the money here. As should you VD.

I am a lot of things but a broke dick isn't one of them....sometimes a dick...
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

could always do the accenture match play to get the season started, that's got bracket-style contest written all over it...

Great idea D.....just gave away 200 cash to William Lee in a college contest with no roll overs...he deposited it into CRIS/Bookmaker...
 

DJDalamar

EOG Dedicated
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Only thing he's failed at is letting trolls like you hang around.
 

cheapseats

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

every dollar counts, and I'm sure Cris/Bookmaker appreciates EOG creating the opportunity to win over another customer, especially one that is so much better than a lot of its peers.

I now go with Bookmaker rather than Greek, Book has all the same action for the most part.
 

Tuckman

Uh Poster
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

the old joey is back, u got to love it.. the schilling joey sucked balls
 

Heim

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Mammon and Joey Bagdonuts are cock roaches. When Weitzner ran this place it sucked here. Vd doesnt bring much actually a down tick because cock roaches have returned that Hoffa terminated. Iceman is not really a factor. JK has made great gets like JHU dad, netto, and have retained Heim. PAlm tree and Kinger are good. There is about 6 poters here that are a factor. I have named them all in this thread. I only read about 6 or 7.

Why do you feel that way?

He can make a accurate price or line and give you the 'why'. It's a valuable commodity. Other forums have a bunch of followers pretending to be originators.
 

WeinketoWarrick

EOG Master
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

I now go with Bookmaker rather than Greek, Book has all the same action for the most part.

Terrible lines though. I use Bookmaker for football openers and Diamond for bonuses but I plan on re-upping with The Greek once basketball starts for my openers (they're first anyway).

I would never bet a future at Bookmaker though. As an example, they have Lakers +200 to win the title, while 5dimes has +280.
 

Buskie

EOG Veteran
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Don't now how to make a forum good, I think the amount of time that he has had you couldn't say. I like John he seems like a good guy who wants the best for the industry and there is something to be said about that. I will say there are a lot of jerk offs on these forums that put a black eye on things
 
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

Judge do you think you didnt like the joking around because you have a hard time relating to the new generations "bullshitting"? Seems its all of the older guys that had a problem and cried about a little drama.
BSH, "bullshitting" is one thing but the troll attitude that prevailed here after Ken's death was over the top and I have to believe that few would argue that point. In all fairness, it was fairly prevalent when he was still alive and I think that in his last few months he actually perpetuated much of that himself.

Let's use this thread as an example. Joey's sole purpose here, whether he will admit it or not, was to create a hateful discussion because he feels like his opinion matters more than apparently most of the poll responders do. No question in my mind that he actually believed that the majority felt the same way that he does about Kelly's performance since taking over here, or he never would have posted the "poll" in the first place. Even if the poll results had sided with Joey's viewpoint, there really would have been no point other than for Joey to validate and make public his hateful opinion.

Regardless of the eventual poll results, what is gained here on the behalf of the overall forum community?

Let me answer that; NADA.

Threads like this one are far fewer and further between these days and that fact alone answers the very question posed by this "poll" before a single poster even voted.

Just sayin' .. 12io4j2w90
 

2W2P2S

EOG Dedicated
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

I lost the "under" in Jeff Jones entering this thread. Damn.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Has JK been a failure as GM or whatever he calls himself of EOG?

A Rogue Scholar post coming in 3,2,1...
 
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