I wonder if dumb fuck Obama will learn from this little lesson - California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs

They don't cut the rating on US government credit rating -- They just devalue the dollar. Our boy in the white house doesn't understand this simple concept.

California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs (Update2)
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By William Selway
July 6 (Bloomberg) -- California?s credit rating was cut for the second time in as many weeks by Fitch Ratings after a stalemate over how to close a $26 billion budget deficit forced the most-populous U.S. state to pay some bills with IOUs.
Fitch lowered its rating of California?s general obligation bonds by two steps to BBB from A-, placing the debt two ranks above so-called high-yield, high-risk junk ratings, and said the state may be cut further. The credit-rating company last lowered its assessment of California on June 25.
California, the largest issuer of municipal bonds, last week began issuing IOUs for the second time since the Great Depression as Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and lawmakers remained deadlocked over the budget cuts needed to make up for revenue lost because of the recession. California Controller John Chiang said the step was needed to conserve cash.
?The downgrade to ?BBB? is based on the state?s continued inability to achieve timely agreement on budgetary and cash flow solutions to its severe fiscal crisis,? Fitch said in a statement.
California, with the world?s eighth-largest economy, was already the lowest-rated U.S. state. Standard & Poor?s gives the state it?s A grade, the sixth-highest of 10 investment levels. The firm reaffirmed that assessment on July 1. Moody?s Investors Service rates the debt A2 and placed it on watch on June 19.
The Fitch action affects $79 billion of debt -- $69.3 billion of general obligation bonds, rated BBB, and $9.7 billion of appropriations credits, rated BBB-.
Budget ?Urgency?
?This underscores the urgency to solve our entire deficit with the necessary cuts instead of kicking the can down the alley,? Schwarzenegger said of the Fitch decision. ?This is not the time for boycotting budget meetings -- all sides must come to the table and balance the budget immediately.?
The latest impasse comes less than five months after California?s politicians enacted tax increases and spending cuts, only to see deficits re-emerge as the economy shed more jobs and voters in May rejected a package of measures that would have narrowed the gap.
Schwarzenegger, a Republican, and Democratic leaders of the Legislature remained divided over how to fix the budget after a meeting in the governor?s office late yesterday. Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, a Los Angeles Democrat, said she was ?discouraged? and criticized Schwarzenegger for seeking to link government reforms to a budget deal.
?I don?t think the governor wants to close,? Bass told reporters after leaving Schwarzenegger?s office. ?What we need to do now is deal with the deficit.?
Real Estate Bust
California, where the high cost of real estate fueled demand for adjustable-rate mortgages that helped trigger the recession, has been especially affected by the slump. Six of the state?s cities are among the 10 with the highest foreclosure rates in the U.S., according to RealtyTrac, an Irvine, California, company that keeps data on repossessed homes. The state?s unemployment rate of 11.5 percent in May was the fifth- highest in the U.S.
The disappearance of jobs and spending cutbacks by consumers has sapped the sales and income taxes that fund state government. Revenue collections dropped by $13 billion to $73 billion in the 11 months through May from a year earlier, according to Democratic Controller John Chiang?s office.
Fitch said its rating reflects that there is little risk of a default by California. Officials including Treasurer Bill Lockyer have repeatedly said the state won?t default.
?The ?BBB? rating indicates that expectations of default risk remain low, although the rating is well below that of most other tax supported issuers,? Fitch said.
 
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California’s Nightmare Will Kill Obamanomics: Kevin Hassett
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Commentary by Kevin Hassett

July 6 (Bloomberg) -- Last week, we discovered that the state of California will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

With California mired in a budget crisis, largely the result of a political impasse that makes spending cuts and tax increases impossible, Controller John Chiang said the state planned to issue $3.3 billion in IOU’s in July alone. Instead of cash, those who do business with California will get slips of paper.

The California morass has Democrats in Washington trembling. The reason is simple. If Obama’s health-care plan passes, then we may well end up paying for it with federal slips of paper worth less than California’s. Obama has bet everything on passing health care this year. The publicity surrounding the California debt fiasco almost assures his resounding defeat.

It takes years and years to make a mess as terrible as the California debacle, but the recipe is simple. All that you need is two political parties that are always willing to offer easy government solutions for every need of the voters, but never willing to make the tough decisions necessary to finance the government largess that results. Voters will occasionally change their allegiance from one party to the other, but the bacchanal will continue regardless of the names on the office doors.

California has engaged in an orgy of spending, but, compared with our federal government, its legislators should feel chaste. The California deficit this year is now north of $26 billion. The U.S. federal deficit will be, according to the latest numbers, almost 70 times larger.

Bleak Picture

The federal picture is so bleak because the Obama administration is the most fiscally irresponsible in the history of the U.S. I would imagine that he would be the intergalactic champion as well, if we could gather the data on deficits on other worlds. Obama has taken George W. Bush’s inattention to deficits and elevated it to an art form.

The Obama administration has no shame, and is willing to abandon reason altogether to achieve its short-term political goals. Ronald Reagan ran up big deficits in part because he believed that his tax cuts would produce economic growth, and ultimately pay for themselves. He may well have been excessively optimistic about the merits of tax cuts, but at least he had a story.

Obama has no story. Nobody believes that his unprecedented expansion of the welfare state will lead to enough economic growth. Nobody believes that it will pay for itself. Everyone understands that higher spending today begets higher spending tomorrow. That means that his economic strategy simply doesn’t add up.

Character Deficit

Back in the 1980s, Reagan’s own economist, Martin Feldstein, spoke up when he felt that the Reagan administration was pushing the deficit too far. Where are the economists with such character today? Apparently, the job description for economists has transformed from recommending policies that are defensible to defending whatever policies that the political hacks in the West Wing dream up.

As bad as the California legislature has been over the years, it has never entered a fiscal crisis like the one that we face today and then doubled down with a massive spending increase. In the end, when times got tough, patriotic and sensible Californians of both parties stood up and began acting like adults.

Maybe the same thing is starting to happen in our nation’s capital. The key players in Washington are Senator Evan Bayh and 15 Senate Democrats who joined him this year in forming a coalition of moderates. One thing that has distinguished moderate Democrats from the garden variety of the species is heightened concern about fiscal responsibility.

Off a Cliff

With the price tag of Obama-care likely to exceed $1 trillion, moderate Democrats face a simple choice. They can jump off the cliff with the president, or they can stay true to the principles that they have espoused throughout their careers.

There are reassuring signs that principle is winning. One of the most expensive components of the Obama plan is the so- called public-insurance option, which opponents fear would result in massive government subsidies. Senator Mary Landrieu said that she is “not open” to a public option that will compete with private insurance.

Many other Democratic Senators, including Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln, and Tom Carper, also oppose the public option. As the cost estimates increase and support wanes, the Senate Finance Committee is even going as far as to pursue its own health-care plan, meaning that the health-care end game is now in sight.

Tax Bite

Moderates might support Obama’s health-care objectives if the bill also included tax increases to cover the spending increases. But those tax increases would likely be unpopular, making it almost impossible to pass a bill.

Given the increasing public concern about deficits that heightened significantly last week because of the California crisis, there are only two possibilities left. Either the Obama plan will come crashing down or Senate Democrats will concoct some bill that has health in the title but costs almost nothing and does even less. With Al Franken arriving in the Senate and providing Democrats with a crucial 60th vote, the latter seems most likely.

(Kevin Hassett, director of economic-policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, is a Bloomberg News columnist. He was an adviser to Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona in the 2008 presidential election. The opinions expressed are his own.)

To contact the writer of this column: Kevin Hassett at khassett@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: July 6, 2009 00:01 EDT
 

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Re: I wonder if dumb fuck Obama will learn from this little lesson - California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs

I really feel sorry for Obama.He get's president and want's to spend away but realizes that the guy before him maxed out the credit card and now we have to pay for it and somehow get the blame from so called conservatives.
 
Re: I wonder if dumb fuck Obama will learn from this little lesson - California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs

I really feel sorry for Obama.He get's president and want's to spend away but realizes that the guy before him maxed out the credit card and now we have to pay for it and somehow get the blame from so called conservatives.


He gets the blame for adding on another $2 Trillion to the debt in 5 short months. He also gets the blame for not having a clue on what to do.
 
Re: I wonder if dumb fuck Obama will learn from this little lesson - California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs

He gets the blame for adding on another $2 Trillion to the debt in 5 short months. He also gets the blame for not having a clue on what to do.
And you do. Sitting in your mothers basement eating Cap'n Crunch listening to the Michael Savage Webshow. You should run for office. I'd vote for ya.
 

tank

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Re: I wonder if dumb fuck Obama will learn from this little lesson - California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs

He gets the blame for adding on another $2 Trillion to the debt in 5 short months. He also gets the blame for not having a clue on what to do.
And the people that spent the first 10 trillion dollars had a clue??Please enlighten us on your thinking.
 

BCTTWR

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Re: I wonder if dumb fuck Obama will learn from this little lesson - California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs

The clueless piece of shit has outspent Bush tenfold. Change we can believe in. Hope? Fuck you Obama.

By the way, his healthcare bill is a disaster too.
 

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The clueless piece of shit has outspent Bush tenfold. Change we can believe in. Hope? Fuck you Obama.

By the way, his healthcare bill is a disaster too.
Please explain your math here.Bush added 6 trillion to the debt and Obama has added 1.4 trillion and that is tenfold????????Do you know what half of that 1.4 trillion is from????
 
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The clueless piece of shit has outspent Bush tenfold. Change we can believe in. Hope? Fuck you Obama.

By the way, his healthcare bill is a disaster too.
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Just a reminder, listening to this guy is toxic to your mentality. The biggest bigot on the site. Have a nice day 91023i2ndw;l
 

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Please explain your math here.Bush added 6 trillion to the debt and Obama has added 1.4 trillion and that is tenfold????????Do you know what half of that 1.4 trillion is from????
You're comparing 8 years to 6 months. You do the math. Try to see past your nose and average it out. Its actually more than tenfold. The radical must be stopped. What don't you understand?
 

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Re: I wonder if dumb fuck Obama will learn from this little lesson - California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs

You're comparing 8 years to 6 months. You do the math. Try to see past your nose and average it out. Its actually more than tenfold. The radical must be stopped. What don't you understand?
I'll take it you do not understand how the debt works???Learn about interest and get back to me and maybe you can figure it out.
 
Re: I wonder if dumb fuck Obama will learn from this little lesson - California Credit Rating Cut Close to Junk After IOUs

You're comparing 8 years to 6 months. You do the math. Try to see past your nose and average it out. Its actually more than tenfold.

Okey dokey

Bush 6Trill in 8 years

Obama 1.4trill in 6months (half of one year)

x 16

= 22.4Tril


Lesson learned

In the BCTTWR classroom, 22.4 is tenfold to 6

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BUMP

for anyone who missed Math Class
 
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