Unlike Jordan, Brick never covered or shut down the best offensive player in the finals for the whole game.
LBJ has a message for the NBA
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GameBred
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That's all I ever wanted; for someone to see the real me and validate me.
Thank you.
Sol Diablo
House of Heat
Brick plays defense in spurts and it's less and less every year. Jordan wanted the best and wanted to shut him down.
It's futile to talk to someone that thinks Brick has been a better defender than Jordan throughout their careers. Idiocy at it's best.
GameBred
I Trade Therefore I Am
yet the Bulls defensive rating improved the year after he retired and they pulled him off Magic in the Finals. Yeah, he's better a defender than Prime LBJ. Not on your life.
GameBred
I Trade Therefore I Am
I didn't say, "thorughout careers," that goes to MJ. Prime LBJ vs. Prime MJ, no contest; LBJ all day. he can guard anyoen MJ can and people he can't; it's really that simple.
Because he guarded all positions doesn't mean he guarded them well. Some point guards have made him look silly. When Brick was young he could lock down players and was very good.. He still never did it for a whole game as Jordan has done.
Jordan led the league in steals 3 years. Jordan was a better shot blocker too and that included swatting 7 foot centers.
GameBred
I Trade Therefore I Am
He kicked everyone's ass at one time. Doesn't mean guys didn't score on him but it was never, ever easy. For a few years, I believe that if he was the closest guy to you, your FG% was the worst in the LG, meaning he's the one guy you don't want near you when you have the ball or he's closing out, etc.
Just last year, he Shut Kemba Walkers water off late and he's a fucking Ninja and then the next game, did the same thing to Porzingis. Yeah, he did it late but he used to do shit like that on the regualr.
All advanced stats say that Jordan's better. Jordan played all 82 games 9 years. Your arguments hold no water even when you "try" to cherry pick.
It meant that Brick didn't cover scorers.
GameBred
I Trade Therefore I Am
Sure it did.
There have been games in the finals where Brick was terrified to go to the free throw line. Jordan wanted to be on the line.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
You’re a good soldier. You took one for the team.
kane
EOG master
The fact that he made the all defensive first team 5 times means as usual, you're wrong again. Go ask Derrick Rose what is was like being guarded by the GOAT
Everyone knows that Brick was a very good defender at one time. Not as good as Jordan but he could lock down players. Brick never had the stamina of Jordan and could never do it the whole game. Remember the I can't breath game?
kane
EOG master
Wrong, he was an excellent defender in his prime, I'm sorry he can't defend the same way in his 16th season
Stockton and Malone were great in the day but new guys like Zion would make Malone look average. One thing to remember about Pippen was he constantly had nagging injury in his middle and late career making Jordan's performance notable about carrying the rest of the team.
Patrick McIrish
OCCams raZOR
CHA CHING$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!
The gravy train continued last night.......
Here's to hoping he plays another 10 years, LOL.
The gravy train continued last night.......
Here's to hoping he plays another 10 years, LOL.
Patrick McIrish
OCCams raZOR
He hasn't played defense in 5 years outside of a play or two each game. This year he doesn't have guys like Kyrie and Love that can put up 40 or 50 and take over a game. No Wade or Bosh to dominate games. It's masked Brick's brutal defense the last 5 years. If the Lakers were winning, no one would say a word about Brick's defense.
kane
EOG master
You were talking about his defense the years he was winning championships, in fact the night the Cavs beat GS in game 7 to complete the comeback when they were down 3 games to one, all you kept posting about was how many points Draymond Green scored on him, everyone else was talking about what a great comeback it was, and his incredible block on Iggy, but not you, all you kept posting was how many points Draymond scored against him, this was the night the Cavs won the championship, so just stop with your bullshit already. As usual, you're wrong again.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
He made a legendary play. He was also taking plays off then.
kane
EOG master
And Jordan never took any plays off, right? Not one time in his entire career did Jordan ever not hustle back on defense or not defend well, no sir, Jordan played 100% every second of every minute he was on the court throughout his entire career, even during exhibition games Jordan played 100% every second he was on the court, and not one time did he ever take any plays off
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
When you are playing man to man D, you can’t take plays off as much (not saying they didn’t take some off)).
kane
EOG master
If you want to argue he isn't the same defender as he used to be, you'll get no argument from me, I mean he's in his 16th season, at times there's a need to conserve energy. But don't think for a second that Jordan, or any other great player has never taken some plays off during a game to conserve energy, basketball is fast paced up and down the court all game, it's impossible for anyone to play balls out on every play, it's just amazing how you and the other haters do nothing but focus on the times the GOAT doesn't run back hard on defense during a game when the same thing could be said about all of these guys, never mind he's in his 16th season.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Playing a zone gives the appearance of looking lazy, whether real or not. It was the biggest factor in the 3-pt craze.
GameBred
I Trade Therefore I Am
An MVP Rose got his water turned off.
LBJ helped change that series w/ his defense.