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One of the most influential men of our generation has passed.
He carried the torch of peace, love and equality.
He carried the torch of peace, love and equality.
Nelson Mandela
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KingRevolver
Born Rambler
Re: Nelson Mandela
I didn't realize he was 95. RIP
I didn't realize he was 95. RIP
boatboatboat
EOG Master
Re: Nelson Mandela
I always assumed in his heart he held a great deal of pain and maybe even hate.
But he was able to keep that inside and understand that what a few men did to him who happened to be white did not mean that all or even the majority of all white men were evil.
I always assumed in his heart he held a great deal of pain and maybe even hate.
But he was able to keep that inside and understand that what a few men did to him who happened to be white did not mean that all or even the majority of all white men were evil.
Brock Landers
Banned
Re: Nelson Mandela
His family kept him as a vegetable for months longer than necessary
His family kept him as a vegetable for months longer than necessary
thecentaur
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Viejo Dinosaur
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Great One
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JAKEPEAVY21
EOG Dedicated
Re: Nelson Mandela
RIP..a sad day
RIP..a sad day
Re: Nelson Mandela
Who cares who his idol was? Mandela was a great man, and revolutionary leader, because he was capable of throwing his animosity/opinions to the side for the betterment of his society.
An excerpt from a great piece on Mandela in the WSJ:
The bulk of his adult life, Nelson Mandela was a failed Marxist revolutionary and leftist icon, the Che Guevara of Africa. Then in his seventies he had the chance to govern. He chose national reconciliation over reprisal, and he thus made himself an historic and all too rare example of a wise revolutionary leader.
When Mandela took power he could have done what every leader prior to him did - killed/harmed took rights away from those who did not agree with him - but he did not. He worked on bringing people together, as opposed to forcing his views onto others.
It really takes a shitty and horrible person to blast Mandela. Someone who spent 27 years in prison, but did not hold a grudge or take out his pain on those who caused it. Mandela was about peace in the face of adversity - he was about equality, and togetherness. Regardless of whether I believe with his political allegiances early on in his life (it took extremes to get things done in that country, as most revolutions require), it's nearly impossible to argue with his stance and beliefs in life:
"I have fought against white domination and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But, if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die."
If you think there is something wrong with that dream and hope, then you are a hopeless human being.
Mandela acted poorly in response to his beliefs and need for equal rights as a young man. What separates Mandela is he sat in a jail cell for 27 years, and came out a peaceful man with ideals of hope and opportunity.
In closing, I will steal this quote from that same article as it puts it better than I could:
Mandela became the biggest of African men by refusing to act like a typical African "Big Man." He transcended his party's history of Marxism, tribalism and violence. The continent and world were fortunate to have him.
Who cares who his idol was? Mandela was a great man, and revolutionary leader, because he was capable of throwing his animosity/opinions to the side for the betterment of his society.
An excerpt from a great piece on Mandela in the WSJ:
The bulk of his adult life, Nelson Mandela was a failed Marxist revolutionary and leftist icon, the Che Guevara of Africa. Then in his seventies he had the chance to govern. He chose national reconciliation over reprisal, and he thus made himself an historic and all too rare example of a wise revolutionary leader.
When Mandela took power he could have done what every leader prior to him did - killed/harmed took rights away from those who did not agree with him - but he did not. He worked on bringing people together, as opposed to forcing his views onto others.
It really takes a shitty and horrible person to blast Mandela. Someone who spent 27 years in prison, but did not hold a grudge or take out his pain on those who caused it. Mandela was about peace in the face of adversity - he was about equality, and togetherness. Regardless of whether I believe with his political allegiances early on in his life (it took extremes to get things done in that country, as most revolutions require), it's nearly impossible to argue with his stance and beliefs in life:
"I have fought against white domination and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But, if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die."
If you think there is something wrong with that dream and hope, then you are a hopeless human being.
Mandela acted poorly in response to his beliefs and need for equal rights as a young man. What separates Mandela is he sat in a jail cell for 27 years, and came out a peaceful man with ideals of hope and opportunity.
In closing, I will steal this quote from that same article as it puts it better than I could:
Mandela became the biggest of African men by refusing to act like a typical African "Big Man." He transcended his party's history of Marxism, tribalism and violence. The continent and world were fortunate to have him.
Re: Nelson Mandela
Oh and RIP to a great man. A man who fought for what he believed in, but in a peaceful way. If more countries had leaders like Mandela, the world would be a much better place.
Oh and RIP to a great man. A man who fought for what he believed in, but in a peaceful way. If more countries had leaders like Mandela, the world would be a much better place.
Re: Nelson Mandela
Because apartheid is not a person. Its a system that LEGALLY separates races. Similar to the railroad tracks where I grew up. Blacks lived on one side of the tracks and whites lived on the other, If blacks could not legally live on the other side that would have been apartheid.
Because apartheid is not a person. Its a system that LEGALLY separates races. Similar to the railroad tracks where I grew up. Blacks lived on one side of the tracks and whites lived on the other, If blacks could not legally live on the other side that would have been apartheid.
Wade
EOG Master
Re: Nelson Mandela
mandela ran south africa into the ground. South Africa's Tragedy: Apartheid Replaced with...
Mandela's first official acts was to legalize prostitution. Now, STDs are rampant there.
mandela ran south africa into the ground. South Africa's Tragedy: Apartheid Replaced with...
Mandela's first official acts was to legalize prostitution. Now, STDs are rampant there.
Another of Mandela's ‘brilliant’ moves: He freed hardened criminals on the pretense they had been imprisoned for political reasons. Now, crime is not the fastest growing industry there; it's the ONLY industry that is growing. Of course, you read nothing about this in the U.S. newspapers. For, they were a part of the international movement to "end apartheid," and implement "majority rule."
Re: Nelson Mandela
I'm more familiar with Richard Mandella than Nelson Mandela.
I'm more familiar with Richard Mandella than Nelson Mandela.
Dell Dude
EOG Master
Re: Nelson Mandela
Fuck Liberals and fuck their idols (Mandela), fuck their goofy beliefs (global warming) and fuck their political obsessions (Obama Karre). They danced on air when Reagan died. Have no respect or humanity for people who don't share their secular, socialist views then go nuts if everyone doesn't bow down to theirs.
Fuck that monkey Mandela. He gone. Michigan State rolls Saturday!
Fuck Liberals and fuck their idols (Mandela), fuck their goofy beliefs (global warming) and fuck their political obsessions (Obama Karre). They danced on air when Reagan died. Have no respect or humanity for people who don't share their secular, socialist views then go nuts if everyone doesn't bow down to theirs.
Fuck that monkey Mandela. He gone. Michigan State rolls Saturday!
Dell Dude
EOG Master
Re: Nelson Mandela
Martin Luther King was an important historical figure and definitely left a great legacy but it is nauseating how he is worshipped like God. Martin Luther King Day needs to have an expiration date. The only 'man' who should be worshipped is Jesus. The latter, Liberals are trying to white out. The former will continue to be worshipped 100 years from now.
Martin Luther King was an important historical figure and definitely left a great legacy but it is nauseating how he is worshipped like God. Martin Luther King Day needs to have an expiration date. The only 'man' who should be worshipped is Jesus. The latter, Liberals are trying to white out. The former will continue to be worshipped 100 years from now.
Re: Nelson Mandela
"Fuck that monkey Mandela. He gone." Spoken like a true Christian.
"Fuck that monkey Mandela. He gone." Spoken like a true Christian.
BEANTOWNJIM
Banned
Re: Nelson Mandela
HOW MANY KEEDS DID NELSON MANDELA FATHER OUT OF WEDLOCK IN SOUTH AFRICA HE PROBABLY FATHERED A WHOLE TRIBE
I JUST LOOKED IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN PHONE BOOK AND NELSON MANDELA HAS 50 SONS CARRYING ON HIS NAME.MAN THESE NIGERIANS LOVE HAVING KEEDS WITH A LOT OF WOMEN
I WILL GIVE NELSON MANDELA CREDIT AT LEAST THE FUCKING GUY DIDN'T HAVE ANY INTERRACIAL KIDS THATS VERY RARE OUT OF A BLACK LEADER
DID NELSON MANDELA EVER SLEEP WITH A WHITE WOMEN
YES -400
NO + 370
HOW MANY KEEDS DID NELSON MANDELA FATHER OUT OF WEDLOCK IN SOUTH AFRICA HE PROBABLY FATHERED A WHOLE TRIBE
I JUST LOOKED IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN PHONE BOOK AND NELSON MANDELA HAS 50 SONS CARRYING ON HIS NAME.MAN THESE NIGERIANS LOVE HAVING KEEDS WITH A LOT OF WOMEN
I WILL GIVE NELSON MANDELA CREDIT AT LEAST THE FUCKING GUY DIDN'T HAVE ANY INTERRACIAL KIDS THATS VERY RARE OUT OF A BLACK LEADER
DID NELSON MANDELA EVER SLEEP WITH A WHITE WOMEN
YES -400
NO + 370
KingRevolver
Born Rambler
Re: Nelson Mandela
Can't even have a nice thread about a good man. Bunch of childish scumbags.
Can't even have a nice thread about a good man. Bunch of childish scumbags.
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Wade
EOG Master
Re: Nelson Mandela
good men don't kill innocent people. people act like he's a saint. 3 Things You Didn’t (Want To) Know About Nelson Mandela
good men don't kill innocent people. people act like he's a saint. 3 Things You Didn’t (Want To) Know About Nelson Mandela