Pinnaclesports.com Reduces The Juice To -104 On All NFL SIDES

Just when I thought it couldn't get much better

Pinnaclesports.com Reduces The Juice To -104 On All NFL SIDES

Leading Reduced Margin Sportsbook Gives Players Even More Value On NFL Bets


WILLEMSTAD, CURACAO (August 31, 2005)?With the official kick-off to the 2005 NFL season next week, PinnacleSports.com is giving NFL bettors more bang for their buck by reducing the juice on all NFL sides using an industry first -104 pricing model. While traditional bookmakers use a -110 pricing model that charges bettors 10% to place a wager, PinnacleSports.com now offers players up to 60% better value on NFL sides for the entire 2005 season.



Instead of paying $110 to win $100 on the Patriots versus the Raiders in the NFL season opener, customers only have to lay $104 to win $100 at PinnacleSports.com. Using this model, although a player would stand to win the same amount, someone who places five $200 bets a week for all 17 weeks of the NFL season would save an astounding $1,020 wagering at PinnacleSports.com instead of at a traditional sportsbook. While other sportsbooks only offer customers one-time sign-up bonuses of 10-20% with restrictive terms and conditions, PinnacleSports.com customers enjoy savings year round on all sports through the company?s reduced margin wagering. In addition, unlike betting exchanges PinnacleSports.com never charges a commission on winning bets.



?As the first gaming company in the world to introduce reduced margin sports wagering, we are committed to giving our customers the absolute best value on their bets during the upcoming NFL season,? said Simon Noble of PinnacleSports.com. ?While other companies have tried to replicate our success by offering a lower pricing model on certain days, we remain the only sportsbook that offers reduced juice wagering all day every day. We?ve earned an industry-leading reputation for offering the bettors the best value while taking all players and bets ? we never deal dual lines, ban winners, or post lines only a few hours before games start and never will.?



In addition to providing consistent value to bettors, PinnacleSports.com also offers the Internet?s lowest minimum and highest maximum bet limits. For the upcoming football season players can wager between as little as $1 and as much as $30,000 on NFL sides.



For more information and a complete list of odds, please visit www.pinnaclesports.com.



About PinnacleSports.com

PinnacleSports.com (www.pinnaclesports.com) is the Internet?s largest sports betting site serving customers in more than 80 countries worldwide. Founded in 1998, PinnacleSports.com was the first sports book to introduce reduced margin wagering using a -105 pricing model that gives bettors up to 50% better value on wagers than traditional bookmakers. With low minimum bet requirements and the highest maximum limits on the Web, PinnacleSports.com has earned an industry leading reputation for providing consistent value to the player, professional customer service and the quickest payouts online. Fully licensed and regulated in Curacao and the United Kingdom, the company offers a secure environment for sports betting, racing and casino gaming.

 

OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
Sign up bonus and -1.04 juice, hard to pass that up. Would like to see them extend that to all of football. Well, maybe no Canadian, but colleges for sure. Answer me this, if you have -1.04 on one side, and -1.07 on the other side, what percentage of middles would you have to hit to break even laying .04? .07?

Best Wishes...OF:+waving-5


New! -104 style pricing on NFL sides! + Receive up to $500 sign up bonus
What are you waiting for?:+excited-
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
About 4.4%


OMNIVOROUS FROG said:
Sign up bonus and -1.04 juice, hard to pass that up. Would like to see them extend that to all of football. Well, maybe no Canadian, but colleges for sure. Answer me this, if you have -1.04 on one side, and -1.07 on the other side, what percentage of middles would you have to hit to break even laying .04? .07?

Best Wishes...OF:+waving-5
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
I made an error, it's 2.73%

OMNIVOROUS FROG said:
Is that your Final Answer? Bear in mind laying normal .10 on each side you have to hit 5% or 1 out of 20.

Best Wishes...OF:+waving-5
 

OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
About 2.5% or 1 out of 40. I sure as hell hope I can hit better than 1 out of 40. Depending if you lose the 4 or the 7. Thank you for playing Nimue. And for being part of the sharp crown at EOG. Now if i had a cheap 3 on Buff, and it reached 7 1/2.

Best Wishes...OF:+waving-5


-.04 = 2% or 1 out of 50
-.07 = 3.5% or 1 out of 28.6
-.10 = 5% or 1 out of 20
 
jjgold said:
Why are 75% games at Pinny not -104??

Jimmy was right

WHO THE FUCK CARES IF ITS -116 +108 ITS 8 CENTS GREAT FOR THE DOG IN THAT GAME BET THE FAVOURITE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
 
Lots of misnomers in the articale and the thinking.


A guy is NOT going to "save" $1020, unless he doesn't win a game. But if he isn't betting the vig on top of the bet he will collect slightly more if/when he wins.

So rather than betting 100 and collecting 93.45, he will collect 96.15.

Plus they ARE NOT laying -104 on EVERY side. They are offering an 8 cent line in football. They are still adjusting the juice around. BIG difference. They could theoretically have a game -120/+112. Just allows them to move the holds and not adjust the line. Which can be better in the long run.

If they can hold the lines/spreads longer it doesn't matter how many middles you need to hit. If they NEVER move the line you (thebettor) will never get a shot at a middle there.

It also will help decreas their action on the heavy games somewhat as well. Especially if it is on a game with an oddball number. Who is going to lay -4 -120 when they can get -4.5 -107 somwhere else? I won't be surprised to see Pinny hold the line and show -130/140s this year. Obviously if youl ike the other side then you will be taking shots with the PLUS vig that way, especially if you can get a decent side shot on an early number.

I just don't like it all that much actually. When a book is offering the best holds around as it is, why do they feel the need to make them even better? I haven't heard of many people leaving them, so why do they need to entice even morepeople to bet with them.

Honestly it makes me nervous. Not on the level of an Aces Gold, but at the time they were the Cat's Ass and seemingly had no reason to do what they did either. Only came out AFTER it was all said and done. So when a top book goes out of their way offering things that they honestly do not need to be offering scares me a little.
 

BEANTOWNJIM

Banned
I BELIEVE I SAID THE SAMETHING AS WANT BUT IN LESS WORDS.HEY WANT HOW ABOUT STOP WRITING BOOKS AND GET TO THE POINT I KNEW PINNACLE WAS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF WITH THIS PHONY -104 WICH IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT.I COULDNT FIND 1 GAME WHERE THE PRICE WAS -104 EITHER WAY.I WONT BE PLAYING AT PINNACLE THIS SEASON I WILL LOOK FOR A SPORTSBOOK THAT OFFERS -107 ON ALL GAMES.THE ONLY SPORTSBOOK THAT EVER GAVE THE PLAYERS A TRUE -107 ON ALL GAMES EVEN THE ONES ON THE NUMBER 3 AND 7 WAS BET AUSTRALIA UNFORTUNETLY THEY ARE NO LONGER AROUND.BET AUSTRALIA HAD -107 ON ALL TOTALS AND GAMES THIS IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE TO FIND IT LET ME KNOW.YOU KNOW THOSE CROOKS OVER AT CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WILL NEVER GIVE YOU -105 EITHER SIDE THEY TO WILL ADJUST THE JUICE TO FAVOR THE HOUSE.THIS IS A SCAM BOYS AND PRETTY SOON YOU WILL SEE -125 ON 75% OF THE GAMES IF YOU ALLOW THESE BOOKS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU.


I WILL NEVER FORGET THE GREAT CASCADE ROBBERY OF 2003 THE DAY LENNY AND CASCADE SPORTSBOOK STOLE 660 DOLLARS FROM ME.
 
BEANTOWNJIM said:
I BELIEVE I SAID THE SAMETHING AS WANT BUT IN LESS WORDS.HEY WANT HOW ABOUT STOP WRITING BOOKS AND GET TO THE POINT I KNEW PINNACLE WAS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF WITH THIS PHONY -104 WICH IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT.I COULDNT FIND 1 GAME WHERE THE PRICE WAS -104 EITHER WAY.I WONT BE PLAYING AT PINNACLE THIS SEASON I WILL LOOK FOR A SPORTSBOOK THAT OFFERS -107 ON ALL GAMES.THE ONLY SPORTSBOOK THAT EVER GAVE THE PLAYERS A TRUE -107 ON ALL GAMES EVEN THE ONES ON THE NUMBER 3 AND 7 WAS BET AUSTRALIA UNFORTUNETLY THEY ARE NO LONGER AROUND.BET AUSTRALIA HAD -107 ON ALL TOTALS AND GAMES THIS IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE TO FIND IT LET ME KNOW.YOU KNOW THOSE CROOKS OVER AT CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WILL NEVER GIVE YOU -105 EITHER SIDE THEY TO WILL ADJUST THE JUICE TO FAVOR THE HOUSE.THIS IS A SCAM BOYS AND PRETTY SOON YOU WILL SEE -125 ON 75% OF THE GAMES IF YOU ALLOW THESE BOOKS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU.


I WILL NEVER FORGET THE GREAT CASCADE ROBBERY OF 2003 THE DAY LENNY AND CASCADE SPORTSBOOK STOLE 660 DOLLARS FROM ME.

jim what happened at cascade
 
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