R.I.P. Pacers

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Surely you've put your entire net worth on the current series price of Cavaliers -215 then. I hear Cedi Osman might even get some early burn in Game 2.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
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Surely you've put your entire net worth on the current series price of Cavaliers -215 then. I hear Cedi Osman might even get some early burn in Game 2.

I can't wait to put you on ignore. Just going to hold out long enough to clown your ass and then I'm putting you in the bin, where you belong.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
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Surely you've put your entire net worth on the current series price of Cavaliers -215 then. I hear Cedi Osman might even get some early burn in Game 2.

He may not even need to play but I would love to see him. If they start Game 2 the same way they did Game 1, he better be the first dude off the bench.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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Surely you've put your entire net worth on the current series price of Cavaliers -215 then. I hear Cedi Osman might even get some early burn in Game 2.


Cavs adjusted series price (-215) available at William Hill right now.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
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How many threads for your manlove kid?


Annoying little guy ain't you.

The monkey doesn't tell the Silverback what to do.

Here is a song that LBJ and I often listen to together; he uses the left earphone, I the right.

 

unluckysob

EOG Dedicated
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Bought a little more on Bucks today. I think they win next 3. Certainly win 2 out of 3. Bucks win this series.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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Bought a little more on Bucks today. I think they win next 3. Certainly win 2 out of 3. Bucks win this series.


Bucks adjusted series price (+175) available at CGT, South Point and Station Casinos right now.

"The Greek Freak" is ridiculously good and I think he'll be the one (not Kevin Durant) who eventually takes the baton from GameBred's favorite player.
 

ChuckyG

EOG Master
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Bucks adjusted series price (+175) available at CGT, South Point and Station Casinos right now.

"The Greek Freak" is ridiculously good and I think he'll be the one (not Kevin Durant) who eventually takes the baton from GameBred's favorite player.

Reason for optimism after Game 1? Have to feel like they can play w/ this team.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
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Reason for optimism after Game 1? Have to feel like they can play w/ this team.


Here's the central question: Can a soon-to-be 32-year-old Al Horford keep up with the 23-year-old Giannis Antetokounmpo over a seven-game series?

Note to Bucks: Keep Horford off the charity stripe.
 

kane

EOG master
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Cavs have been on knife's edge all year. Are they any good? Or is this a dog-shit team?

With LeBron they're a good team, not championship good, but good. Without LeBron they're lucky to win 30 games and would be picking third in the draft
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
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Tyronn Lue is imploring LeBron to start fast in Game 2.

LeBron's first field-goal attempt in Game 1 came when the Cavs trailed the Pacers, 25-8, late in the first quarter.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
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Cavs have been on knife's edge all year. Are they any good? Or is this a dog-shit team?

Chucky, don't turn into a Dipshit on me, please, I beg you. Not you too. I've already lost respect for some dudes, don't join the list.
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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With LeBron they're a good team, not championship good, but good. Without LeBron they're lucky to win 30 games and would be picking third in the draft

This is just delusion. Look at the teams that are picking top 10 this year. None of them had one single player that was of Kevin Love’s caliber before Kevin Love was ruined by playing with Lebron James.

Bosh and Love’s careers both tanked when they joined forced with lebron. Certainly not coincidence.
 

kane

EOG master
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This is just delusion. Look at the teams that are picking top 10 this year. None of them had one single player that was of Kevin Love’s caliber before Kevin Love was ruined by playing with Lebron James.

Bosh and Love’s careers both tanked when they joined forced with lebron. Certainly not coincidence.

If you think Cleveland would be a good team without LeBron, you're the one who's delusional. Love has always been an overrated player, he put up big numbers in Minnesota playing on a bad team. Kevin Love, Jeff Green, Goerge Hill, Kyle Korver, Rodney Hood, Larry Nance, Jordan Clarkson, JR Smith, Jose Calderon, Cedi Osman, Tristan Thompson. If you think that group is winning anything, you're delusional, you're not going anywhere with a whole bunch of role players and not one star, that group doesn't sniff the playoffs without LeBron
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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If you think Cleveland would be a good team without LeBron, you're the one who's delusional. Love has always been an overrated player, he put up big numbers in Minnesota playing on a bad team. Kevin Love, Jeff Green, Goerge Hill, Kyle Korver, Rodney Hood, Larry Nance, Jordan Clarkson, JR Smith, Jose Calderon, Cedi Osman, Tristan Thompson. If you think that group is winning anything, you're delusional, you're not going anywhere with a whole bunch of role players and not one star, that group doesn't sniff the playoffs without LeBron

The Bulls are only picking 6th this year and their team was truly awful, and they even benched and traded their reasonably talented players. So no, the Cavs without Lebron would not be picking top 10.
 

kane

EOG master
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Kyrie Irving played 3 years in Cleveland before LeBron got there. Year one they went 21-45, year two they went 24-48, year three they went 33-49. Then LeBron went back there and his first season back they went 53-29. The Cavs had a star in Kyrie Irving, but they went a combined 78-142. If the Cavs sucked with Kyrie as their best player, I can assure you they would suck with Love being their #1 guy
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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Kyrie Irving played 3 years in Cleveland before LeBron got there. Year one they went 21-45, year two they went 24-48, year three they went 33-49. Then LeBron went back there and his first season back they went 53-29. The Cavs had a star in Kyrie Irving, but they went a combined 78-142. If the Cavs sucked with Kyrie as their best player, I can assure you they would suck with Love being their #1 guy

That's b/c they were tanking with Kyrie for another star.

If a team built around Kevin Love and the players the Cavs have were trying, they'd be a playoff team.
 

kane

EOG master
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That's b/c they were tanking with Kyrie for another star.

If a team built around Kevin Love and the players the Cavs have were trying, they'd be a playoff team.

Washington is the 8th seed, go take a look at their roster compared to a LeBronless Cavs roster, then tell me how Kevin Love is leading them to the playoffs. John Wall and Bradley Beal are both better than Love, the Wizards roster is much stronger than the Cavs roster sans LeBron. If you think the Cavs make the playoffs without LeBron, you're nuts. Washington was 42-40, Cleveland was 50-32, take LeBron off Cleveland and they win about 20 less games
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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Washington is the 8th seed, go take a look at their roster compared to a LeBronless Cavs roster, then tell me how Kevin Love is leading them to the playoffs. John Wall and Bradley Beal are both better than Love, the Wizards roster is much stronger than the Cavs roster sans LeBron. If you think the Cavs make the playoffs without LeBron, you're nuts. Washington was 42-40, Cleveland was 50-32, take LeBron off Cleveland and they win about 20 less games

Wall missed half of the year and Washington is an abortion without Wall.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
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The Bulls are only picking 6th this year and their team was truly awful, and they even benched and traded their reasonably talented players. So no, the Cavs without Lebron would not be picking top 10.

That's the problem when many teams employ the tank strategy. The Cavs roster, sans LBJ would win 25-30.
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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That's the problem when many teams employ the tank strategy. The Cavs roster, sans LBJ would win 25-30.

Only because they wouldn’t be trying to win. Bench Love for a few weeks. Not trade for small pieces to help out. A sore ankle means benched for 10 days. It’s all about the end goal
 

kane

EOG master
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Only because they wouldn’t be trying to win. Bench Love for a few weeks. Not trade for small pieces to help out. A sore ankle means benched for 10 days. It’s all about the end goal

Kevin Love played 6 season in Minnesota. Year one 24-48, year two 15-67, year three 17-65, year four 26-40, year five 31-51, year six 40-42, in six season he went a combined 153-323, and missed the playoffs all six seasons. Obviously they didn't have much talent, but then neither does this Cavs team, if Love couldn't even reach .500 in those six years and never made the playoffs, I don't know how he's leading this mediocre Cavs bunch to the playoffs either. If LeBron leaves next year, we may find out, but my guess is if LeBron leaves, the Cavs would trade Love and start a rebuild
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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The Miami Heat back several years ago had 3 top 5 PER players... take Lebron off that team, and they still had 2 top 5 PER players. I bet Kane would tell you a Miami Heat roster with TWO top 5 PER players was incapable of winning it all.
 

kane

EOG master
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The Miami Heat back several years ago had 3 top 5 PER players... take Lebron off that team, and they still had 2 top 5 PER players. I bet Kane would tell you a Miami Heat roster with TWO top 5 PER players was incapable of winning it all.

Take LeBron off Cleveland and how many top 5 PER players do they have?
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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Take LeBron off Cleveland and how many top 5 PER players do they have?

Mavericks won it all with 0 I believe. Pistons probably did that year they won too.

Lebron James and his fan base have complained about lack of help every single spot he's landed. You have to agree that's the case. Even when he had two top 5 PER players in Miami.

The fact is, Lebron doesn't let his superstar teammates get their's as well, so superstars don't like playing for him.

Kyrie Irving hated playing with Lebron so much he went to management and said he'd never play another game with Lebron.
 

kane

EOG master
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Mavericks won it all with 0 I believe. Pistons probably did that year they won too.

Lebron James and his fan base have complained about lack of help every single spot he's landed. You have to agree that's the case. Even when he had two top 5 PER players in Miami.

The fact is, Lebron doesn't let his superstar teammates get their's as well, so superstars don't like playing for him.

Kyrie Irving hated playing with Lebron so much he went to management and said he'd never play another game with Lebron.

Kyrie Irving wanted to be #1 option, that was never happening as long as LeBron was in Cleveland, so he went to a place where he could be the #1. I have no idea what any of your other nonsense means, I hope you're not implying the Cavs could win it all without LeBron, no one can possibly be that dumb
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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Kyrie Irving wanted to be #1 option, that was never happening as long as LeBron was in Cleveland, so he went to a place where he could be the #1. I have no idea what any of your other nonsense means, I hope you're not implying the Cavs could win it all without LeBron, no one can possibly be that dumb

Love's career tanked when he joined forces with Lebron. Bosh's did as well. Irving demanded to leave. Interesting how Michael Jordan, with his insane desire to win at all costs was able to keep Pippen happy and productive to a hall of fame career but LeBrick, with his obsession with his own brand and stats, and without the killer instinct to win at all costs, isn't able to keep his star teammates near as happy.

Actually, that's not interesting. It's exactly what you'd expect.
 

kane

EOG master
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Love's career tanked when he joined forces with Lebron. Bosh's did as well. Irving demanded to leave. Interesting how Michael Jordan, with his insane desire to win at all costs was able to keep Pippen happy and productive to a hall of fame career but LeBrick, with his obsession with his own brand and stats, and without the killer instinct to win at all costs, isn't able to keep his star teammates near as happy.

Actually, that's not interesting. It's exactly what you'd expect.

Nobody's career tanked when they played with LeBron, that's a dumb thing to say. When Kevin Love played in Minnesota he was the #1 option, the guy chucked as many shots as he wanted, going to Cleveland he instantly became the 3rd option behind Kyrie and LeBron, of course his numbers were going to go down, the same thing with Bosh, in Toronto he was the go to guy, in Miami he was #3 in the pecking order, not hard to understand that going from a teams first option to a teams third option means those players stats would decrease. Bosh and Love were both willing to give up numbers in order to play with LeBron to possibly win a championship, and that's exactly what happened to both Love and Bosh, they didn't mind sacrificing their own numbers in order to win
 

JavyBaez9

EOG Master
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Nobody's career tanked when they played with LeBron, that's a dumb thing to say. When Kevin Love played in Minnesota he was the #1 option, the guy chucked as many shots as he wanted, going to Cleveland he instantly became the 3rd option behind Kyrie and LeBron, of course his numbers were going to go down, the same thing with Bosh, in Toronto he was the go to guy, in Miami he was #3 in the pecking order, not hard to understand that going from a teams first option to a teams third option means those players stats would decrease. Bosh and Love were both willing to give up numbers in order to play with LeBron to possibly win a championship, and that's exactly what happened to both Love and Bosh, they didn't mind sacrificing their own numbers in order to win

I don't think being blamed for losses in the media constantly was what they signed up for, but hey, maybe they agreed to that too.
 
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