Sports betting in IL for March Madness

blueline

EOG Master
I dont know anything officially but Rivers was set and ready to go and just waiting for the switch to be flipped so I'm assuming they would be in the first wave that opens
 
Is Rivers taking bets in March?
Temporary sports betting operating permits have been issued to three Illinois casinos. One of those temporary licenses went to Rivers Casino in Des Plaines, which is situated in the Chicago suburbs, just north of O’Hare International Airport. Not a fun jaunt from many places in the area.

Then there’s Grand Victoria Casino in Elgin, which is about 35 miles from Chicago, where Interstate 90 begins to open up a bit if you’re heading for Rockford.

Argosy Casino in Alton is the third option. Situated on the northern bank of the Mississippi River, it would be the outlet for St. Louis residents who really want to do things the right way, 35 miles north of the city, past Pelican Island Natural Area, cross the river, hang a left.
https://www.gambling.com/news/illinois-betting-by-march-madness-would-still-lack-mobile-2210300
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
This will be a hard pass for me as long as Indiana is an option. Rivers screwed FD and DK, no mobile for at least another year in Illinois.
 
Have it on very good word they were supposed to put through 5 or 6 temp applications before March Madness and Rivers may not have been one of them. Rivers did some back channelling and this was the result. Illinois politics, clean as can be.

Mobile is still on track to be in place by NFL season is what I heard, just they wanted to do these soft opening runs during March and April as baseball season opens. I doubt Rivers does that well with it, they already have traffic and parking issues, dragging in more people during peak periods is not going to be a priority. They might do fine during the early days of the tournament though getting a day time crowd and showing off the book, but wider advertisement of it may not make sense until they have a mobile option. In any event Indiana is so far ahead of them.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Draftkings and fan duel are good books to have. Different styles than vegas but a new set of lines always good..
 
Wasn't there talk of a new casino would be built further north, around Waukegan? Any word on that?

IGB has a year to decide who to give the license to, should know who wins by September and then built over a year or two. Since the applications have gone in the papers have gone nuts over trying to find any bad connections between the bidders and some formerly shamed people. Its Illinois so everyone in business has a connection that has done something corrupt, we'll see if it somehow slows or stops the process after a winner is declared.
 
This will be a hard pass for me as long as Indiana is an option. Rivers screwed FD and DK, no mobile for at least another year in Illinois.

This is the stupidity of giving lobbyists what they want. The guy who really wanted them blocked sold off most of his holdings to Churchill, he really has nothing left to fight for in Illinois.
 

KevinStott11

EOG Veteran
"Illinois will take a 25% tax on sportsbook revenue. That is second only to Pennsylvania."

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sp...ois-sports-betting-begin-march-madness-85609/

https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/il...rs-with-key-figures-whove-been-denied-before/

"One bid team is led by Michael Bond, a former Democratic state senator who until recently ran a video gambling company. Bond’s casino would be operated by a man who was previously an executive at a casino chain when it surrendered its Missouri riverboat gambling licenses following a scandal."

There are some aspects of the bill that professional gamblers don't like. Illinois will prohibit betting on in-state collegiate teams. So even if the University of Illinois is a powerhouse and you'd like to place a bet, you're out of luck.

FanDuel and DraftKings will also be allowed to offer mobile sports betting but not until 18 months after sports betting goes live here.

Alton, maybe Rockford, Des Plaines and Elgin only? The horror, the horror. Doomed before they even start. At least Weed legal there now. Until the Apps work, no soup or fun for you. I will keep banging in the Desert. Not that getting to the SuperBook is easy these years.
 
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John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Gaming licenses in the state of Illinois?

Can you say corruption?

Six Illinois governors have been charged with crimes during or after their terms and four of the six were convicted of wrongdoing.

I took a tour of the State Capitol a couple of years ago and the tour guide pointed out the hall with all the official portraits of past governors.

After which I called out, "Where are the mug shots?"
 

KevinStott11

EOG Veteran
I wouldn't trust either of them (FD, DK) with an ear lobe. They are cheaters.

During that time, Illinois has had four governors: two Republicans and two Democrats. George Ryan came first, starting in 1999, and despite substantial achievements in Springfield, erased the public’s trust in state government with a corruption scandal that landed him in prison. Rod Blagojevich swept into power in the wake of Ryan’s scandal, promising reform and renewal, but exited in disgrace after an FBI arrest and subsequent impeachment trial, leaving a state woefully unprepared for the Great Recession. Illinoisans breathed a sigh of relief when Pat Quinn stepped in, but the relief died quickly, as a major tax increase failed to steady Illinois’ finances, and low-level patronage scandals undercut his reputation as a reformer. Rauner capitalized on Quinn’s unpopularity and defeated him in 2014. But Rauner saw his own standing collapse last year when rank-and-file GOP lawmakers abandoned his cause after a two-year budget standoff.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
both Fan Duel and Draftkings run 24 hours and put up the line earlier than most. . Fan Duel had the super bowl opener up before anyone.
 
FanDuel and DraftKings are in the penalty box for 18 months due to past crimes.

Those "crimes" were decided after the fact in a very politically charged decision. The AG was paid off by Rush Street to issue an opinion, never really proven in court, that DFS was illegal. Trying to avoid a court fight in the corrupted Illinois courts, the two DFS providers pulled out after just a short time of operation.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
"Illinois will take a 25% tax on sportsbook revenue. That is second only to Pennsylvania."

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sp...ois-sports-betting-begin-march-madness-85609/

https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/il...rs-with-key-figures-whove-been-denied-before/

"One bid team is led by Michael Bond, a former Democratic state senator who until recently ran a video gambling company. Bond’s casino would be operated by a man who was previously an executive at a casino chain when it surrendered its Missouri riverboat gambling licenses following a scandal."

There are some aspects of the bill that professional gamblers don't like. Illinois will prohibit betting on in-state collegiate teams. So even if the University of Illinois is a powerhouse and you'd like to place a bet, you're out of luck.

FanDuel and DraftKings will also be allowed to offer mobile sports betting but not until 18 months after sports betting goes live here.

Alton, maybe Rockford, Des Plaines and Elgin only? The horror, the horror. Doomed before they even start. At least Weed legal there now. Until the Apps work, no soup or fun for you. I will keep banging in the Desert. Not that getting to the SuperBook is easy these years.
I heard that Illinois was allowing in-state schools to gamble on, but only in parlays. It was an 11th hour compromise. The gambling show on The Score 670 was discussing it around the Super Bowl time, maybe it was scrapped.
 

KevinStott11

EOG Veteran
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/07/...s-in-fantasy-football-and-the-rest-of-us.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/sports/fanduel-draftkings-fantasy-employees-bet-rivals.html

"I asked both companies for the names of big winners. Sabrina Macias, head of corporate communications for DraftKings, suggested David Gomes, a 2014 big winner; it’s him celebrating in the DraftKings ad. When I asked for more names, Macias said, “We have had 20 winners of $1 million prizes.” She promised to get back to me with a list of those names, and never did.

Emily Bass, public relations manager for FanDuel, suggested Scott Hanson, “Scott H.,” a 2014 big winner. When I asked for more names, Bass said her company has “a huge number” of big winners. She promised to get back to me with a list of names, and never did."

McMillion$ish East Coasters and their insider trading making everyone out to be suckers. Shameful.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/07/...s-in-fantasy-football-and-the-rest-of-us.html

"I asked both companies for the names of big winners. Sabrina Macias, head of corporate communications for DraftKings, suggested David Gomes, a 2014 big winner; it’s him celebrating in the DraftKings ad. When I asked for more names, Macias said, “We have had 20 winners of $1 million prizes.” She promised to get back to me with a list of those names, and never did.

Emily Bass, public relations manager for FanDuel, suggested Scott Hanson, “Scott H.,” a 2014 big winner. When I asked for more names, Bass said her company has “a huge number” of big winners. She promised to get back to me with a list of names, and never did."

McMillion$ish East Coasters and their insider trading making everyone out to be suckers. Shameful.
It;s been a dirty little secret on some fantasy football forums, the discussion of insider trading, Its reminiscent of the online poker. You need a lot of guppies to feed the sharks and whales.
 
I heard that Illinois was allowing in-state schools to gamble on, but only in parlays. It was an 11th hour compromise. The gambling show on The Score 670 was discussing it around the Super Bowl time, maybe it was scrapped.

No such regulation that I have heard about, but the official regulations haven't been issued yet so it could happen. It wasn't part of the bills to enable sports betting.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
No such regulation that I have heard about, but the official regulations haven't been issued yet so it could happen. It wasn't part of the bills to enable sports betting.

January 24 -

https://www.legalsportsreport.com/37240/illinois-sports-betting-rules-commercially-reasonable/

What else is in Illinois emergency rules?
The second round of emergency rules outlines application processes, prohibited wagering activity, and a number of internal controls and operating procedures for sports wagering licensees.

Here are some of the points of interest from the 66-page document:

  • Betting will be limited to professional sports, motorsports and collegiate sports excluding those involving Illinois collegiate teams. This means no wagering on the Academy Awards.
  • The ban on in-state college wagering does not apply to parlay bets.
  • The 2% tax to Cook County in addition to the 15% to the state applies to all wagers made by a person physically located in the county, including online wagers.
  • Sports stadiums and arenas may receive a license to offer sports betting only if all professional sports teams that play their home contests at the facility provide written authorization.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
I heard that Illinois was allowing in-state schools to gamble on, but only in parlays. It was an 11th hour compromise. The gambling show on The Score 670 was discussing it around the Super Bowl time, maybe it was scrapped.


Dumb, dumb, dumb.
 

KevinStott11

EOG Veteran
We have many "lopsided ecosystems" in the United States.

60 Minutes did a great thing on the (US) stock markets years ago. The fastest and best Servers always get the best and earliest trades.

In being an Ant, it's always best to understand you are a just an Ant and playing a game made by the Anteaters.

God bless the Midwest and whatever decency may be left in this crying and mean nation although Illinois will fuck up Sports Gambling like they fuck up keeping great talent or having a legendary Rock band. Chicagoland should have a greater legacy. Instead, we just leave and live in this shithole in the Mojave Desert.

Girls can't write
https://www.bestuscasinos.org/news/sports-betting-live-before-march-madness/

So stupid. Why not create a new venture or do it yourself? Lame giving it to these 2 thieves. Fuck Illinois. 25% rake AND stupid. Hope Musk builds a sportsbook on Mars with -105 juice and Chicago State 1st Halves available. A monopoly run by East Coasters? Don't we already have that in our Politics, Stock Markets and everything else? The USA is more than NYC and Washington, DC and endless election cycles. Chicago looking lame. But the denizens will be glad they can get and weed is legal. Lemmings. 22 years later...

After sports betting officially goes live, after 18 months, mobile sports betting will only be available through online casinos, such as FanDuel and DraftKings.
 
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FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Illinois has allowed temp sports licenses today for Grand Victoria in Elgin and Hollywood in Aurora for march madness.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Looks like a run to the Indiana border from my boyhood home in Calumet City, Illinois is still the play.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Three casinos, no apps yet.
What makes no sense is you have to go to the casino to register on the mobile app (when its available). Considering there is only one casino south of Aurora that is taking sports bets and its 250 miles from Chicago - thats a problem. Illinois is a very long state. Are people downstate going to drive 2 hours just to sign up for a mobile app?
 

MrTop

EOG Master
What makes no sense is you have to go to the casino to register on the mobile app (when its available). Considering there is only one casino south of Aurora that is taking sports bets and its 250 miles from Chicago - thats a problem. Illinois is a very long state. Are people downstate going to drive 2 hours just to sign up for a mobile app?


i think software takes a long time to make. Not an easy task. NJ did not have mobile for a least 3 months. Then more later on. It took 2 years for caesars to upgrade theirs. They will get it down the road.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
i think software takes a long time to make. Not an easy task. NJ did not have mobile for a least 3 months. Then more later on. It took 2 years for caesars to upgrade theirs. They will get it down the road.
You don't have to go to a casino in Indiana to sign up for the app. Illinois wouldn't be ready now except some of the lawmakers were wondering why Indiana was raking in millions during superbowl while they had nothing. You can signup in Michigan or Illinois (and fund) for Indiana mobile, just have to be in Indiana to bet.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
You'll be in town then?


Currently in Costa Rica.

Heading home to Las Vegas in late April.

I plan to be in Chicago in early August for a week or two.

EOG's Seventh Annual Day at the Races is set for Saturday, August 1.

You're welcome to attend, FW.
 
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