Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

[800Gambler]

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday that he and Cuban ally Fidel Castro risk being more conservative than U.S. President Barack Obama as Washington prepares to take control of General Motors Corp.
During one of Chavez's customary lectures on the "curse" of capitalism and the bonanzas of socialism, the Venezuelan leader made reference to GM's bankruptcy filing, which is expected to give the U.S. government a 60 percent stake in the 100-year-old former symbol of American might.
"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right," Chavez joked on a live television broadcast.
During a decade in government, Chavez has nationalized most of Venezuela's key economic sectors, including multibillion dollar oil projects, often via joint ventures with the private sector that give the state a 60 percent controlling stake.
Obama has vowed to quickly sell off General Motors once the auto giant is back on its feet, but the government will initially control the company after a $30 billion injection of taxpayer funds.
Chavez, a vehement critic of the U.S. "empire," has toned down his rhetoric since Obama took office in January and the two men shook hands during a summit in Trinidad and Tobago in April.

 

[BCTTWR]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

Our fuhrer.

 

[BCTTWR]

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[MannyLovitto]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

lol at all the wimps who think that "Obama is taking away our freedoms!!", yet they can't name one freedom they've personally lost

 

[4625]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

I question whether anyone even semi-literate actually believes any of the talk-radio hogwash about "taking away freedoms." I believe the real resistance to the new President is closer to the fact that he is a black man very near the white women. . .

 

[MannyLovitto]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

There were more than a few folks who during the past seven years felt that President Bush had or was taking away various freedoms. Even I myself got caught up thinking - in 2002-4 range - that this might happen.

However, as we moved into Bush's second four years I realized that such losses were purely imaginary and that griping about them distracted from more legitimate criticisms of the Bush administration across the board.

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

I believe the real resistance to the new President is closer to the fact that he is a black man very near the white women. . .

Greetings Mr. 4625:

Shades of Doc Mercer!

Has he taken possession of your mind?

He used to say the same thing in his very own words.

This statement is so narrow minded that it has given the Munchkin Man a splitting headache just from reading it.

The Munchkin Man's resistance to Barack Obama has nothing to do with the color of his skin.

Instead, it has everything to do with his radical ideologies and the Munchkin Man'smoral and philosophical opposition to these ideologies.

To dispute your belief even further, the Munchkin Man would forsee no personal resistance to Clarence Thomas or Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams or Alan Keyes, to name just a few distinguished African-American gentleman the Munchkin Man admires, if any of them were President.

Indeed, each of the gentlemen the Munchkin Man named above are "black men very near the white women."

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man

 

[4625]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

There has been no evidence of any substantive changes since I posted the following in another thread in May, 2009:

By failing to utter a peep in protest when the buffoon's administration undertook the identical "economic policies," the poster running the "bit" known as Munchkin Man revealed that the "economic policies" of Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add) aren't really the issue of protest. Since the stated issue of protest has been revealed to be false, an inference arises that there is another, more authentic reason for protesting against Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add). Since the poster running the "bit" known as Munchkin Man remains publicly committed to the pretextual "economic policies" reason for protest in spite of clear evidence that such policies were peachy-keen in his book when undertaken by the buffoon, it is reasonable to presume that another, perhaps less savory issue is the true reason for protesting Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add).

http://forums.eog.com/politics-and-...ml?highlight=obama+buffoon+identical+policies

 

[HinesWard86]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

This notion of Obama as a communist is laughable.

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

There has been no evidence of any substantive changes since I posted the following in another thread in May, 2009:

By failing to utter a peep in protest when the buffoon's administration undertook the identical "economic policies," the poster running the "bit" known as Munchkin Man revealed that the "economic policies" of Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add) aren't really the issue of protest. Since the stated issue of protest has been revealed to be false, an inference arises that there is another, more authentic reason for protesting against Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add). Since the poster running the "bit" known as Munchkin Man remains publicly committed to the pretextual "economic policies" reason for protest in spite of clear evidence that such policies were peachy-keen in his book when undertaken by the buffoon, it is reasonable to presume that another, perhaps less savory issue is the true reason for protesting Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add).

http://forums.eog.com/politics-and-...ml?highlight=obama+buffoon+identical+policies

Greetings Mr. 4625:

The Munchkin Man has already posted a logical disproof and rebuttal of your assertions above and which were originally expressed in the post to which you are referring in the link above.

To wit:

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By failing to utter a peep in protest when the buffoon's administration undertook the identical "economic policies," the poster running the "bit" known as Munchkin Man revealed that the "economic policies" of Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add) aren't really the issue of protest.


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Greetings 4625:

This is a false and presumptuous argument.

You are stating that the economic policies of Barack Obama and those of his predecessor are "identical."

Do you know what "identical" means?

In mathematical terms, two elements that are "identical" are more commonly described as "congruent."

If two elements are "congruent", then they are "carbon copies" of each other.

Congruence is not the same thing as Similarity, which is another mathematical term the Munchkin Man suggests you learn.

Consider the following:

All circles are similar.

But not all circles are congruent.

Do you understand now?

Therefore, if the Munchkin Man can find one single difference between the economic policies of Barack Obama and those of his predecessor, then your argument will have become invalidated and proven false.

The Munchkin Man will now give these economic policies a look.

Ah!

Here is one difference:

Barack Obama has repealed the limitations on taxpayer funding for embryonic stem cell research.

Here's another:

Barack Obama has repealed the limitations on taxpayer funding for abortions performed overseas.

THESE ARE TWO MAJOR POLICY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN BARACK OBAMA AND GEORGE W. BUSH!!!

You claimed that their economic policies were "identical."

The Munchkin Man has just proven you wrong.

Here's another:

Did President George W. Bush ever order a major automobile company to merge with a smaller one?

No, he did not.

Barack Obama did when he ordered Chrysler to merge with Fiat.

Here's another:

Did President George W. Bush ever fire the CEO of a major automobile company?

No, he did not.

Barack Obama did when he fired GM's CEO, Rick Wagoner.

Here's another:

Did President George W. Bush ever propose $634 billion in higher taxes for socialized health care?

No, he did not.

Barack Obama did.

Here's another:

Did Presdent George W. Bush ever propose a $3.6 trillion budget?

No, he did not.

Barack Obama did.

Here's another:

Did President George W. Bush ever propose to limit tax deductions for charitable donations?

No, he did not.

Barack Obama did.

The Munchkin Man can go on and on.

However, the Munchkin Man has already made his point.

The Munchkin Man has disproven your assertion that the economic policies of Barack Obama and his predecessor, George W. Bush, are "identical."

The Munchkin Man has proven you wrong.

Quote:
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Since the stated issue of protest has been revealed to be false.......


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Wrong.

The Munchkin Man has just disproven your entire argument.

You continued the above statement with the following:

Quote:
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......an inference arises that there is another, more authentic reason for protesting against Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add). Since the poster running the "bit" known as Munchkin Man remains publicly committed to the pretextual "economic policies" reason for protest in spite of clear evidence that such policies were peachy-keen in his book when undertaken by the buffoon, it is reasonable to presume that another, perhaps less savory issue is the true reason for protesting Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add).


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Due to the fact that the Munchkin Man has just disproven the entire premise of your argument, all of the above has been rendered as null and void, and no further rebuttal is necessary.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man


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For full documentation of the above, the Munchkin Man refers you to Post Number 28 ot the following thread:

http://forums.eog.com/politics-and-...ml?highlight=obama+buffoon+identical+policies

It is possible that you missed the Munchkin Man's rebuttal which the Munchkin Man has just copied and pasted above.

For some reason, the Munchkin Man's Post 28 in this thread did not originally appear.

The Munchkin Man had to set his preferences to showing the most recent post in a given thread first, in a reverse chronological order.

When the Munchkin Man set his preferences accordingly, the Munchkin Man's Post 28 appeared in this thread on the Munchkin Man's computer screen.

Another logical fallacy to your argument is your assertion that the Munchkin Man's stated that his opposition and resistance to Barack Obama's Presidency was exclusively limited and confined to his "economic policies" alone.

This is untrue.

For example, the Munchkin Man bases a very large part of his opposition and resistance to Barack Obama on Barack Obama's support for the murder of a newborn baby after a failed abortion attempt, on behalf of honoring the mother's original wishes and protecting her "right to choose" to such an extreme.

The Munchkin Man is also opposed to Barack Obama's agenda to close Gitmo.

The Munchkin Man is also opposed to Barack Obama's view of American exceptionalism, as portrayed in the following quote from his recent speech in Cairo:
_____

"Given our interdependence, any world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will inevitably fail."
_____

The Munchkin Man can go on and on, with one philosophical difference after another, on other issues besides his "economic policies."

Finally, you failed to refute the Munchkin Man's following statement:

To dispute your belief even further, the Munchkin Man would forsee no personal resistance to Clarence Thomas or Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams or Alan Keyes, to name just a few distinguished African-American gentleman the Munchkin Man admires, if any of them were President.

The Munchkin Man is genuinely astonished that an attorney, such as yourself, would commit so many logical fallacies during the course of an argument and come up with such a high volume of false conclusions that you do.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man



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[4625]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

Perhaps the "bit" version of logic has substantive differences from that recognized by others. . .

 

[soli]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

This is what I got out of reading all that Bullshit by the "Bit" 60 year old man, speaking in the 3rd person, calling himself The Munchkin Man. He basically will always find a reason to disagree with President Obama because of his race but he will find ways around it by using other tactics to disguise it. It is what it is and 4625 picked up on it long time ago just like the rest of us.

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

Perhaps the "bit" version of logic has substantive differences from that recognized by others. . .

Greetings Mr. 4625:

The Munchkin Man prefers the use of classical or formal logic, which includes the rigors and standards of mathematical proof.

The Munchkin Man does not prefer the lower level version of logic you prefer, as illustrated by your following statement in another post:

There's an old saying that goes: "If three people call it a horse, go buy a saddle."

This is a logical fallacy which is known as argumentum ad populum.

You can read more about your logical fallacy here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

You're welcome.

The Munchkin Man is glad to educate and enlighten you at any time.

The Munchkin Man believes you can use the services of the Munchkin Man in your law practice, as a paid assistant who can correct the logical fallacies you have prepared for your arguments, before you risk the personal embarrassment of exposing them before the public in the courtroom.

Given the high volume of logical fallacies you commit on this forum, the Munchkin Man believes it would be a steady job.

If you are interested, please feel free to make the Munchkin Man a reasonable offer and package of compensation.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

This is what I got out of reading all that Bullshit by the "Bit" 60 year old man, speaking in the 3rd person, calling himself The Munchkin Man.

Greetings Mr. Soli:

Obviously, it was over your head.

He basically will always find a reason to disagree with President Obama because of his race but he will find ways around it by using other tactics to disguise it. It is what it is and 4625 picked up on it long time ago just like the rest of us.

The Munchkin Man has already posted a thoroughly constructed logical rebuttal and disproof of your assertion above.

The Munchkin Man suggests you read it again.

If you still do not understand it, the Munchkin Man would like to suggest that you go back to school.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man

 

[soli]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

Greetings Mr. Soli:

Obviously, it was over your head.



The Munchkin Man has already posted a thoroughly constructed logical rebuttal and disproof of your assertion above.

The Munchkin Man suggests you read it again.

If you still do not understand it, the Munchkin Man would like to suggest that you go back to school.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man

I'm going to make this short and sweet. I read and understood everything you wrote. However, I come to my conclusion based on not what you say in this thread, but a cumlative of what you have said in the past. Bottom line....you telling folks to judge you on who you say you are and not by your actions? Stick to math12io4j2w90

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

I'm going to make this short and sweet. I read and understood everything you wrote. However, I come to my conclusion based on not what you say in this thread, but a cumlative of what you have said in the past. Bottom line....you telling folks to judge you on who you say you are and not by your actions? Stick to math

Greetings Mr. Soli:

Your post above is unintelligible and makes no sense.

You have failed to substantiate and prove whatever point you were trying to make.

The Munchkin Man strongly advises you to go back to school.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man

 

[BADTTBONE]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

I question whether anyone even semi-literate actually believes any of the talk-radio hogwash about "taking away freedoms." I believe the real resistance to the new President is closer to the fact that he is a black man very near the white women. . .

I am "still" trying to convince the American people[including 4625] ,that,in fact,our President is "only,mathematically speaking,50%, Black or African-American !
Oh,unless you mean of course, that his African gene is more dominate,causing him to "think,or talk", like an African-American ?
Then I would see your point !2348ji23e

 

[Mr. Sanderson]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

I am "still" trying to convince the American people[including 4625] ,that,in fact,our President is "only,mathematically speaking,50%, Black or African-American !
Oh,unless you mean of course, that his African gene is more dominate,causing him to "think,or talk", like an African-American ?
Then I would see your point !2348ji23e

That is 100% true. But anyone not sleeping under a rock is aware that Obama is for some reason known as a "black president"..

 

[BADTTBONE]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

Well how about this "accurate" description ...America's "first" Mulatto President ?
"MULATTO"...definition being "a person being born of one white and one black parent .
Now take that fact to the bank !:cheeleade

 

[Mr. Sanderson]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

Well how about this "accurate" description ...America's "first" Mulatto President ?
"MULATTO"...definition being "a person being born of one white and one black parent .
Now take that fact to the bank !:cheeleade

to me, it doesnt matter what color the man is or what description anyone uses of him, as long as it isnt the type that a guy like darvas uses in the title of this threads.. calling the president an ape, or monkey, or dumbfuck bothers me for some reason.

 

[BADTTBONE]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

to me, it doesnt matter what color the man is or what description anyone uses of him, as long as it isnt the type that a guy like darvas uses in the title of this threads.. calling the president an ape, or monkey, or dumbfuck bothers me for some reason.

Thank you !That's called "racism" !:cheers

 

[Mr. Sanderson]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

Thank you !That's called "racism" !:cheers

you dont have to define anything to me. i grew up in the south, and read posts by diggin, darvas, munchkin, bct, etc everyday. most people's brains still have not developed outside of what mommy and daddy or dumbass uncle ted told them when they were 4 years old.

 

[KTBKRUSHER]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

whether he be white black or green is not important.
his leftwing ideals are what makes me want to puke

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday that he and Cuban ally Fidel Castro risk being more conservative than U.S. President Barack Obama as Washington prepares to take control of General Motors Corp.
During one of Chavez's customary lectures on the "curse" of capitalism and the bonanzas of socialism, the Venezuelan leader made reference to GM's bankruptcy filing, which is expected to give the U.S. government a 60 percent stake in the 100-year-old former symbol of American might.
"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right," Chavez joked on a live television broadcast.
During a decade in government, Chavez has nationalized most of Venezuela's key economic sectors, including multibillion dollar oil projects, often via joint ventures with the private sector that give the state a 60 percent controlling stake.
Obama has vowed to quickly sell off General Motors once the auto giant is back on its feet, but the government will initially control the company after a $30 billion injection of taxpayer funds.
Chavez, a vehement critic of the U.S. "empire," has toned down his rhetoric since Obama took office in January and the two men shook hands during a summit in Trinidad and Tobago in April.

 

[BCTTWR]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

To: edzo4

 

[4625]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

More wonderful, zany, wack-job photos!! Do they all come from the same website?

After all the hue and cry, blather, distraction and attempts to hide-the-ball, no one has even come close to posting in reference to which "freedoms" His Royal Highness Comrade Crown Prince Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add) is moving to "take away."

 

[4625]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

This is a logical fallacy which is known as argumentum ad populum.

As you stated, this reference concern a post from an entirely different thread. Thus, it has absolutely zero relevance here. But, I might point out regarding that other thread, that the "three men and a horse" reference was not stated for the truth of the matter asserted, merely for the proposition that the assertion was commonly believed. I will check your next submission from Wikipedia as well, though since I won't be billing you, it may take me a little while to get around to it. Carry on. . .

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

I will check your next submission from Wikipedia as well, though since I won't be billing you, it may take me a little while to get around to it. Carry on. . .

Greetings Mr. 4625:

Does this mean you're not going to offer the Munchkin Man a job?

2348ji23e

Munchkin Man