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MrTop

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Delta Spread in Vaccinated People on Cape Cod, CDC Says​





the mask would of stopped it. The mask last week stopped a 6 game winning streak.
 

mr merlin

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thank god masks are back in nevada. I feel safe on the east coast
looks like NV and Maine are the only states to mandate masks huh? A few other gave strong recommendations but none of them really mandated it did they? At least a dozen blue states actually rejected it.

That's really sad, there must be a lot of hand wringing in the biden administration that few listened? They really thought they can count on every blue state governor to hop when they snap their fingers.

Think about it, Bidens been president for 6 months and he already has almost zero influence.
 

MrTop

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Walmart, Disney Get Tough on Unvaccinated Staff Amid Delta Surge​


  • Moves affect a wide swath of both companies’ employees
  • Large employers’ rules could become template for smaller firms
 

MrTop

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ORLANDO, Fla. (WFLA) — The Walt Disney Company has announced it will mandate COVID-19 vaccines for employees, becoming the latest major company to do so as cases spike and concerns over the delta variant grow.



so much for florida laws
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Can Biden actually be serious about this "more restrictions are coming" statement? Almost no one listened to his mask request. I live in a blue state, the media keeps saying pretty much every county around meets the criteria to mask - from what I've seen no one has remasked.

Just imagine what the reaction will be if Biden says to shut down rest/bars/movies/ sports? The latest surge in the south is supposedly peaking now or soon in most places, he'll look like an even bigger fool than he does now.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Can Biden actually be serious about this "more restrictions are coming" statement? Almost no one listened to his mask request. I live in a blue state, the media keeps saying pretty much every county around meets the criteria to mask - from what I've seen no one has remasked.

Just imagine what the reaction will be if Biden says to shut down rest/bars/movies/ sports? The latest surge in the south is supposedly peaking now or soon in most places, he'll look like an even bigger fool than he does now.



it has nothing to do with biden or a dem. Other countries are having problems too. Delta is showing up where people are not vaxxed and it is breaking thru the vaccine.. The vax is not good enough.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
it has nothing to do with biden or a dem. Other countries are having problems too. Delta is showing up where people are not vaxxed and it is breaking thru the vaccine.. The vax is not good enough.
Who cares, the UK had a 5-6 week head start on us and it went away as fast as it came. You're right about the vax, the problem isn't that it's not good enough - the vax is causing the problem/mutations.

In any event I'm talking about Bidens inability to get anyone to listen to their hysterical shifts, mask, dont mask, mask again, vax perfect, vax great, vax pretty good...now we're at "it sorta works".
 

MrTop

EOG Master
the donald paid all this money for vax and i cannot go outside. I have to hide under my bed. It is the vax drug makers makin $$$
 

MonkeyF0cker

EOG Dedicated
If the Biden administration's CDC had been transparent about vaccine efficacy, we could have been handling this before it got out of control.

Instead, as usual, the leftists have been completely dishonest about it, continually citing a 97% efficacy number that came from January to April numbers in press conferences up to the beginning of this week.

And they've doubled down on requiring a failing vaccine and continue trying to blame all of it on the unvaccinated.

None of that has anything to do with Trump.
 

MonkeyF0cker

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What we should be looking at very seriously is if there is waning effectiveness in the J&J vaccine like there is with the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines.

This is completely failed leadership that falls ENTIRELY under the Biden Marxist regime.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
these vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality. If you look at the people that are being admitted to hospitals, over 95% of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. If you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, the chances of you getting seriously ill or dying from covid is effectively zero.
 

MonkeyF0cker

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these vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality. If you look at the people that are being admitted to hospitals, over 95% of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. If you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, the chances of you getting seriously ill or dying from covid is effectively zero.

You're using the same outdated numbers and lies that the CDC is. Fact is, you have no idea what the real numbers of hospitalizations or deaths of vaccinated versus unvaccinated are because there is ZERO transparency from this administration.

Again. Vaccines inherently provide immunity. Otherwise, they're not vaccines. They're treatments.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
You're using the same outdated numbers and lies that the CDC is. Fact is, you have no idea what the real numbers of hospitalizations or deaths of vaccinated versus unvaccinated are because there is ZERO transparency from this administration.

Again. Vaccines inherently provide immunity. Otherwise, they're not vaccines. They're treatments.


oh sorry, I should have noted that the was a direct quote from Governor DeSantis. I think it just refers to Florida numbers...

guy is a fukin sell out
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
Mortality in nursing homes, since we rolled out the vaccines in December is down over 95% due to COVID. The mortality for elderly people since we rolled out the vaccines is down nearly 90% and so we’re proud in Florida to be seniors first in that because they were the most vulnerable. We have 85% of our seniors that are vaccinated and about 75% of folks over the age of 50. We have no mandate, we’ve provided information to people and we’ve been very honest about any data that has come out. I can tell you that if you look, you are seeing people that are vaccinated – for whatever reason – some, I think, can test positive if you’re vaccinated but they don’t get seriously ill, except maybe rare instances. There’s always one-offs on stuff.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
yeah it's the Florida hospital #'s

the Governor has been real good about keeping them on the up and up and honest with the #'s




COVID-19 Hospital Update:
  • Hospitals report more than 95% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients are not fully vaccinated
  • Average age of individuals hospitalized with COVID-19 is younger than previous peaks
  • No hospitals report serious shortages of supplies
  • Hospitals are implementing surge capacity plans as local situations warrant
 

MonkeyF0cker

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yeah it's the Florida hospital #'s

the Governor has been real good about keeping them on the up and up and honest with the #'s




COVID-19 Hospital Update:
  • Hospitals report more than 95% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients are not fully vaccinated
  • Average age of individuals hospitalized with COVID-19 is younger than previous peaks
  • No hospitals report serious shortages of supplies
  • Hospitals are implementing surge capacity plans as local situations warrant

That's not transparent data.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
these vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality. If you look at the people that are being admitted to hospitals, over 95% of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. If you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, the chances of you getting seriously ill or dying from covid is effectively zero.
Those numbers are old, what was a few percent became 10% and now 25% or more, pretty soon it'll be 50% and then more.

And by the way, you cant say someone with 1 shot is not vaccinated, they are by definition vaccinated., when boosters are recommended will they now say that people with "only" 2 shots are unvaccinated? Yes they will if it serves their purposes.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
these vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality. If you look at the people that are being admitted to hospitals, over 95% of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. If you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, the chances of you getting seriously ill or dying from covid is effectively zero.



1\3 cape cod caught the flu-19 they got vaxxed.... It does not work too good.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
Those numbers are old, what was a few percent became 10% and now 25% or more, pretty soon it'll be 50% and then more.

And by the way, you cant say someone with 1 shot is not vaccinated, they are by definition vaccinated., when boosters are recommended will they now say that people with "only" 2 shots are unvaccinated? Yes they will if it serves their purposes.

take it up with Desantis, he said it
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
take it up with Desantis, he said it
I hear the biden administration is going to go after Desantis hard over the delta variant, I would imagine they'll say 'look at all those cases, it's out of control because of you"?

That ought to be rather amusing, hopefully desanty expresses complete indifference and says "come to florida, where everyone is free and welcome, even virus's", anothe option is "virus schmirus", a third option is for him to grab his crotch and say "I've got your virus right here".

Iowas gov today rejected bidens $100 vaccine bonus's, told him to shove it up his ass, LOL.
 

MonkeyF0cker

EOG Dedicated
The Florida governor thinks his state is a bigger sample size than that

Someone's obsessed with DeSantis.

You'd almost think they believe Florida is the only state that's seeing a surge in cases.

You'd almost think they'd have a point.

Meanwhile, in the libtard paradise of Los Angeles County, where 62% of those 16+ are fully vaccinated, 71% have received at least one dose, and they had an entire 3 weeks of maskless freedom, they currently have more cases per day than they had last summer and it's still rising.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Someone's obsessed with DeSantis.

You'd almost think they believe Florida is the only state that's seeing a surge in cases.

You'd almost think they'd have a point.

Meanwhile, in the libtard paradise of Los Angeles County, where 62% of those 16+ are fully vaccinated, 71% have received at least one dose, and they had an entire 3 weeks of maskless freedom, they currently have more cases per day than they had last summer and it's still rising.
This was put out by someone if florida. the difference between blue states and red states is blue states get very, very upset and say we have to do something. Red states say oh well, it'll get better, lets go out tonight.

 

MonkeyF0cker

EOG Dedicated
It's hilarious to see them blame the rise in cases on the unvaccinated but credit the "vaccine" for the low death rate.

Can't have it both ways, retards.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
It would appear that what happens next is exactly what happened in the NE and every other country that had a huge surge, cases fall, hospitalizations fall, deaths fall, and then they'll be ok.

the nature of pandemics is they need to burn through the population, it's possible almost all states will have similar surges, with the good news being that once this current surge is finished(maybe in a month) all the large population states will be through it.

one year nostalgia!
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
one year nostalgia!
it never did get a chance to run it's course did it? Look at florida - worldometer has them at 20,000 cases just today(which means the real number is 50K +, that's good news IMO, they cant keep that up for long without running out of people can they?
 
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mr merlin

EOG Master
Here's an article about that outbreak out east that they blame on the super infectious delta, an interesting read, the key point it was a gay festival, packed to the gills, and they no doubt did a lot of gay activites if you know what i mean. Anyway that's not exactly representative of normal indoor activities that imply indoor masking is needed.

 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I wonder why the media doesn't cover Sweden now?


Sweden: Despite Variants, No Lockdowns, No Daily Covid Deaths​


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Since the Covid pandemic broke out, Sweden has been fought over more than any other part of Europe since Germany in the 30 Years War. In refusing to use an iron fist to control a virus, lockdown advocates claimed it was either committing murder or suicide; choose your favorite metaphor. Relatively few such as me, in three separate articles, claimed the Nordic country was sparing both the economy and something called “liberty” with its light-handed approach. My favorite title (editor chose it): “Media Enraged That More Swedes Aren’t Dying.”


Thus last year we saw such headlines as CNN’s “Deaths Soar In Country That Didn’t Lock Down. Officials Identify Big Reason Why.” Around the same time “Sweden Steadfast In Strategy As Virus Toll Continues Rising,” claimed another source. “Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Drives Up Infection Rate,” screamed the BBC. Everyone was playing pile-on. “Sweden Has The Highest Daily Coronavirus Death Rate In The World – And It’s Getting Worse.” That’s from Yahoo Sports. Sports?


Modelers desperately tried to scare Sweden into locking down. One predicted an incredible median of 96,000 deaths, with a maximum of 183,000. At Sweden’s Lund University an academic used the parameters in the now-infamous Neil Ferguson/Imperial College model to warn that it meant 85,000 deaths for Sweden. An Uppsala University team also found the nation paying a terrible price with 40,000 Covid-19 deaths by May 1, 2020 and almost 100,000 by June.


Total Swedish Covid deaths at this writing: 14,651.


It’s not that Sweden did nothing – but very little. “From the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Public Health Agency . . . embarked on a de-facto herd immunity approach, allowing community transmission to occur relatively unchecked,” declared a scathing editorial in the leftwing medical journal The Lancet last December. “No mandatory measures were taken to limit crowds on public transport, in shopping malls, or in other crowded places,” it said. “Coronavirus testing, contact tracing, source identification, and reporting, as recommended by WHO, were limited and remain inadequate.” High schools closed temporarily, but grade schools never.


“In our view,” snarled The Lancet, “there is still not sufficient recognition in the national strategy of the importance of pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic transmission, aerosol transmission, and use of face masks.”


Time to revisit Sweden as much of the world starts locking down and masking again regardless of vaccination levels, blaming the Delta variant. And those impudent Swedes are pretty much refusing to die of Covid at all.


Not to say that vaccines haven’t contributed to the current low numbers, but … cases peaked during the first week of January while vaccinations didn’t even begin until the end of that month. Currently Sweden ranks 18th in Europe in vaccines per capita, right in the middle. Likewise, there are those who say Sweden finally buckled down and imposed serious restrictions. It didn’t. It imposed more restrictions in the second week of January, perhaps more in response to international opprobrium than anything else. But yes, it was after cases not only had started dropping but actually plummeted by more than half.


What’s happening? According to an as-yet unpublished but online study by two Svenske researchers, it appears the country has reached that Holy Grail of Covid called “herd immunity.” That means a level where those already protected are significantly guarding those without exposure. Mind, they say, it’s not all from Covid-19 per se but possibly in great part to “pre-immunity” from other infections. Four coronaviruses are known to cause colds, but the researchers actually don’t even mention that. It’s just that previous exposure to something seems to be providing natural inoculation. And it shouldn’t be as unique to Sweden as Ingrid Bergman.


Mind, the current figures are just a snapshot. Did the country pay an awful price en route to the apparent herd immunity? Well, certainly the Swedish death rate is higher than its Nordic neighbors Norway, Denmark, and Finland. Those are the comparisons you’ll hear. But it’s well below the rates for larger-population European countries including Belgium, Italy, the U.K., Romania, Spain, France, and Portugal. The U.S., too.


Sweden’s chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who caught absolute hell, feels vindicated. “Locking down is saving time,” he said last year. “It’s not solving anything.” In essence the country “front-loaded” its deaths and decreased those deaths later on.


Meanwhile, the Swede haters have also insisted that in exchange for its “butcher’s bill” the country was deriving little or no economic benefit from not shutting down.


“Sweden unlikely to feel economic benefit of no-lockdown approach,” warned the Financial Times in a May 10, 2020 headline. It admitted that so far Sweden has fared better, but select “analysts” cautioned it wouldn’t last.


Wrong. Despite Sweden inevitably feeling undertow from economies that did lock down, “Covid-19 has had a rather limited impact on its economy compared with most other European countries,” according to the Nordetrade.com consulting firm. “Softer preventative restrictions against Covid-19 earlier in the year and a strong recovery in the third quarter contained the GDP contraction,” it said.


Thus the country the media loved to hate is reaping the best of all worlds: Few current cases and deaths, stronger economic growth than the lockdown countries, and its people never experienced the yoke of tyranny.


Not surprisingly, it’s not just Sweden’s pro-freedom position on Covid that sticks in the MSM’s craw. Though routinely labeled “socialist,” it ranks 10th out of 190 economies for ease of doing business, according to the World Bank’s Doing Business report for 2020.


Which for a lot of people is presumably another good reason to hate them.
 
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