So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

[tripp]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

There is certainly some truth to this. Can you respond to this Mike? You have said many times to bet this or that as we have by far the best line out there. So when you are known for taking a stance, how is one to determine you weren't taking one on Dallas here? What is the saying? You can't have your cake and eat it to?

Well put.

 

[PassTheRock]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

did they not think to call & at least ASKKKKK is this -265 correct, as seems lil low to me .......

Your customers should call to see if the lines are valid? :+clueless

Hmmmm....

Did you call everybody that bet the -265 and let them know the bets were canceled?

 

[NowshesmyRuca]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Again anyone that thinks i was taking a shot at them. They solicited me hours before I made the bet.

I made a thread asking about whats books do what and he PMed me!

I loved the Nuggets for the game from start to finish. Most places had anywhere from 250-300 1st half and between 465-550 or so for the game. I went with the lower # for the half because I was getting better odds.

Yes I did put every penny on it but I just sent that money in the same day. Thats how i bet. If I think its a sure thing why would i hold back.




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HIGH--HIGH would u like to play?????


we'll do $100-K NFL (25-K Totals)

$20-K college (5k totals)


LET US KNOW
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Even if I use Adam Meyers picks?
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LOL
LOL
LOL

Adam has "Cooled" off some

are you on of his clients ????
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No Im not. In fact I think the guy is a mush. But I started a thread on what books reduce limits or cut people off and i remmeber in the past you reduced his limits and all of his followers. Im not that big of a player but i do have 1k Im looking to deposit.What kind of a reload bonus can you do for me.

B91451

Thanks Brad
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TELL YOU what we'll do, i'm really trying hard to Promote this GOLD--PAY

www.gold-pay.com & create an acct fund it via MOneygram, Western Union OR many other ways, Dep from there Directly to us ACCT # 100 288 and we'll do 20% RELOAD bonus & offer 1 FREE cashout per 30--days


fair??????
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Let me just MG you. Ive been fucked by these fly by nights before. I would like to give them some more time before I open an acct with them.

Thanks Brad
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Thanks Mike I made the deposit but the didnt give me my bonus.
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

very sorry, send me your acct & I will make sure you get FULL 20% Bonus as I Promised you sir ...........
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In closing I havnt asked for anything from BFC I didnt accept there free $100 offer or anything I just wont play there anymore or recommend that sight anyone else.

 

[Thor4140]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I honestly don't understand why bfc posts on the forums. No good comes from it. I get some like the "interactive" part of bfc, but give me the books that don't talk on the forums because they are actually busy doing work.


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what exactly has he said that has hurt ur feeling Tripp? I like when he post and there is some great info that he post if u are slick about it and understand it.

 

[Thor4140]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

BFC is a square book. Why would anyone assume a square has access to a live lines program or that the square would even know a bad line when he sees it? We all aren't staring at Don Best or Sports Options. Many squares play at one book only and do not even know what the others are offering

Calling out everyone who took this bet as a shottaker is wrong.

So u are assuming everyone that wagers there is a square? Highly doubt it and looking at this guys picks in a few contest, he is far from a square.

 

[ATX]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

question to BFC:

how many people bet on the Dallas ML and what was done with those bets?

 

[Cannon]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

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<HR style="COLOR: rgb(43,41,94)" SIZE=1>Let me state for the 333rd time

PINNY = BEST BOOK ON PLANET

and you get Better Lines/Juice there 90% Time

That said this UFC Fight One hour ago

PINNY CLOSES @ -831

B-F-C CLOSES @ -650

so, the math Genious that was comparing our expected Hold % VS Pinny's on The M-L of Superbowl, please provide us the exact some mathematically comparison on the 2 lines above please

ANYONE that Bet FABER - 650 & WON-easy feel free chime </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[WVU]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

So u are assuming everyone that wagers there is a square? Highly doubt it and looking at this guys picks in a few contest, he is far from a square.

no not everyone that plays there is a square. But if you are playing there without a bonus with the lines they hang then you must be a square.

 

[royalfan]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

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<HR style="COLOR: rgb(43,41,94)" SIZE=1>Let me state for the 333rd time

PINNY = BEST BOOK ON PLANET

and you get Better Lines/Juice there 90% Time

That said this UFC Fight One hour ago

PINNY CLOSES @ -831

B-F-C CLOSES @ -650

so, the math Genious that was comparing our expected Hold % VS Pinny's on The M-L of Superbowl, please provide us the exact some mathematically comparison on the 2 lines above please

ANYONE that Bet FABER - 650 & WON-easy feel free chime
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this here makes bfc look really bad

 

[Thor4140]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

question to BFC:

how many people bet on the Dallas ML and what was done with those bets?

Only Identity but she won't admit it.

 

[ATX]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Only Identity but she won't admit it.

there's usually a couple ID's at every joint. not sure how accurate the 46 accounts betting the Denver first half ML is....

 

[trytrytry]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

they paid the guy, that is a great use of forums..they got it right...water under the bridge..

 

[Cannon]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Ruca we are all pulling for you.

 

[betfirstclass]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

they paid the guy, that is a great use of forums..they got it right...water under the bridge..

This will me my LAST POST


46--accts were Credited this MORNING


and NOT 1---person is willing to admit they were paid on a WAGER where They are Literally RISKING 0 to win Whatver

I'm shocked that NOT one of you has admitted you were PAID


unreal

 

[betfirstclass]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Ruca we are all pulling for you.

I LIED


ONe more post (just for my Great Buddy cannon)


RUCA and 45--others WERE paid


However, NOT 1--single Person has stepped up to the Plate

 

[Cannon]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Give Ruca back the all in money he tried to double up on the second half because he was screwed on the first half.

 

[NowshesmyRuca]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

They credited my acct.

 

[BADTTBONE]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Boy ,I am going to try to be nice about it ?{Even though I have been in a bad mood lately, dealing with too many "crooks"} !
Okay,Oden did not play !He did not lose either ,he couldn't compete !The wager was for Oden ,at 20/1 ,would win "rookie of the year"
They don't give you the "rookie" award for pre-season !
It's for the regular NBA season !
If you bet this weekend's Preakness,and your horse comes up lame today, do you want your refund ? That's just one example !I am sure their are many more ?2348ji23e

anyone ?

 

[raiders72001]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

This isn't a bad line. Look at percentages and not sense. I've heard that Pinny considers a bad line as being off by more then 9% of the consensus.

-1300 to -1400 is almost identical. Cents mean nothing.

 

[raiders72001]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

This isn't a bad line. Look at percentages and not sense. I've heard that Pinny considers a bad line as being off by more then 9% of the consensus.

-1300 to -1400 is almost identical. Cents mean nothing.

grammar police - cents

 

[ATX]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

anyone ?

can you post a ticket?

 

[BetPot]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

why go through so much trouble?
- Becuz you are playing at a F Book. 2938u4ji23

8/24/2008 11:27 PM
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The unrated sportsbook is one of 11 betting websites on its platform. They share the same IP address. Nine of those sites are registered under a proxy service. The other two, NetBet777.com and BetDragon.net have the same whois registration as one of the biggest bookmaker thieves in 2008, Atlantisbets (SBR rating F). The new sportsbook, which has started an advertising campaign with at least one forum website, has copied the about us page and terms of service from SBG Global (SBR rating D-). SBG customer service states they are unrelated to BFC. BFC uses an unknown brand of software, also used by BetCascade (SBR rating F). SBR will ask FirstClass management to comment before initiating rating coverage.

Stay with at least B or above, you won't have to go through these kind of scams.
Why would you ever trust a credit shop ?? Do these guys even have a proper license to operate???? i'm not trying to bash this book but man, stick with books like betjm, you'll never have problems like this.

:hangt

 

[Cannon]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Ruca did they give you your second half money back?

 

[ATX]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

why go through so much trouble?
- Becuz you are playing at a F Book. 2938u4ji23


Stay with at least B or above, you won't have to go through these kind of scams.
Why would you ever trust a credit shop ?? Do these guys even have a proper license to operate???? i'm not trying to bash this book but man, stick with books like betjm, you'll never have problems like this.

:hangt

it's a Shrink book for sure, and that's better info than some arbitrary letter grade. for better for worse.

 

[Cannon]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

How many of these books has Shrink started

 

[raiders72001]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Sorry if already posted

This is from a Pinnacle Pulse article a few years ago.


Quote:
Although very few books offer such a comprehensive range of events and wagering options, no matter how big or how small the operation, pricing mistakes - though infrequent - can and do occur. When pricing mistakes happen, they are always a major cause of friction between the player and the book as canceling wagers tends to be a lose-lose situation that only generates negative publicity.

From our perspective at Pinnacle Sports, canceling wagers because someone has bet into a bad line can be a real logistical headache. A supervisor must evaluate what happened, an attempt must be made to notify the players concerned and the players? accounts are flagged for future reference.

If you see a game line at ?+7? when it should be ?-7?, it?s pretty clear someone flipped a sign and this would be a clear case of a ?bad line?. At reputable sports books like Pinnacle Sports, you can expect these wagers to be cancelled, but at a dishonest book, you could be asking for trouble. Less reputable shops will take a shot at the player ? only canceling the wager after the event IF the bet wins.

But what if a ?bad line? is not so clear-cut? How do you know if a number is a ?bad line? and not just the house taking a position on a game?

A general rule of thumb is that a number is bad if it gives you a 7% EV (expected value) versus the market price. Consider a baseball moneyline with a no-vig market price of -120. This suggests that side will win (120/220) = 54.5% of the time. If you found this game priced at +100, the EV is (0.545 ? 0.455) = 9%. This is probably a bad line.

In the NBA and College hoops, a number off 2 full points, or a total off 3 full points could be considered ?bad?. It?s unlikely that a book will attempt to cancel wagers in this scenario, but these situations often cause uproar across the gambling forums.

That being said, using the 7% EV rule it?s much harder to argue that there are bad lines on futures. Consider the future ?Arizona Diamondbacks to win the World Series: +15000,? which is the current price available at Pinnacle Sportsbetting. Would +30000 be a bad number?

If you assume +15000 is the correct price, this wager will win (1/150) = 0.66% of the time. The EV on Arizona at +30000 would be 0.0066 (300) ? 0.9934 = 0.99%. While the number may look bad, a bookmaker really isn?t giving up that much by offering higher odds on a long-shot. However, these are the situations where the public will be more sympathetic to the book if bets are indeed cancelled.

To avoid possible disappointment, if you see a number that might be a bad line and have any doubts, don?t bet into them. Contact the sportsbook first, preferably by email. You might be surprised to learn that many books will reward your honesty by awarding you a bonus. If a sportsbook emails you back saying the line is good, you can fire away knowing it would be very hard for them to cancel it later.

The alternative ? betting into a bad number ? only works if 1) it isn?t caught before the game, and 2) they don?t free-ride you through the game. Keep your life simple, notify the book and pass on bad lines.

 

[Cannon]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

This line was off -181 and they claim it was not a bad line. How can it not be a bad line if it was off by that much over Pinny.
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<HR style="COLOR: rgb(43,41,94)" SIZE=1>Let me state for the 333rd time

PINNY = BEST BOOK ON PLANET

and you get Better Lines/Juice there 90% Time

That said this UFC Fight One hour ago

PINNY CLOSES @ -831

B-F-C CLOSES @ -650

so, the math Genious that was comparing our expected Hold % VS Pinny's on The M-L of Superbowl, please provide us the exact some mathematically comparison on the 2 lines above please

ANYONE that Bet FABER - 650 & WON-easy feel free ch</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[Point Given]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

BOYS THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS MATTER I GUESS WE CAN ALL REALIZE MIKE IS A NIT WIT AT BET FIRST CLASS.NOW THAT BEING SAID I WONDER IF MIKE CANCELLED THE ACTION ON THE POOR SUCKERS WHO THOUGHT TAKING DALLAS +225 OR WHATEVER WAS WORTH TAKING A SHOT.DID HE ALSO CANCEL THE BETS FOR THE DALLAS ACTION?

I LOVE SPORTSBOOKS THAT CHANGE THERE LINES ITS F-CKING UNBELIEVABLE YOU SET LINES HONOR THEM YOU RAT BASTARDS.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I BET AN OVERNIGHT LINE AND I WAS ON THE WRONG SIDE I BET THE LINE RED SOX -180 THEN ONE HOUR BEFORE THE GAME STARTS IT GOES DOWN TO -150 CAN I CALL BET FIRST CLASS AND SAY I MADE A MISTAKE ON THE LINE I DIDNT WANT TO BET THAT LINE PLEASE CHANGE MY BET :finger004 THIS IS F-CKING OUTRAGOUS MIKE AT BET FIRST CLASS IS A F-CKING CROOK END OF STORY.

IF BET FIRST CLASS DOESNT HONOR THAT BET NOBODY SHOPULD EVER PLAY WITH THESE CORRUPT SHIT BOOK.THEY WILL NEVER MAKE IT TO FOOTBALL SEASON :LMAO

:+textinb3

 

[Point Given]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

IMO after reading through this thread....it seems to me the lines manager messed up when posting a line for that particular game

either way you cut it....there are players out there who spend 24hrs a day fishing for bad lines....they seen the off line and unloaded on it

IMO I didnt think using the excuse it was a "incorrect" line held any water here

I think the lines manager might have been drunk that day...using another books line as a standard is weak...why not just close down and direct all your customers somewhere else then

I wouldnt say the player "took a shot" in this case

I would say that the player beat the linesmaker in this case

maybe this book needs a new lines manager? :shoot:

 

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

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</TD><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_1910356 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #2b295e 1px solid"> Re: PINNY VS B-F-C
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So will you beat Pinny's juice and lines on hoops and foots from now on? If so, I will come on here and gloat for you.
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DUST--BABY

90% time you get Better Prcing @ Pinny

altho, I was Under Impression they closed doors to Most U.S. clients, again THEY ARE THE--BEST

I'm simply stating if you do "Homework" Like WVU, MR NBA, HOGAN, OSU and more you can find Lines HERE better than anywhere

IE G-Town -4 2nd HF today (LOSER) but line closed 5-everywhere</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​

 

[Cannon]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

He says right here if you do your homework you can find lines at BFC that are better than anywhere.


Hell invites people to bet his bad lines if you find them.


This is funny as hell.

 

[Cannon]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

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LOL
LOL
LOL
no no no no & no, simply saying the above poster picked out an Instance where we had Much worse line than Pinny & granted MOST of the TIME we Probably will, But anyone with some "INFO" can find many spots where we offer the Very Best line on ALL sports, Especially if you Like CBB Dogs

someone that Plays here, please elaborate on this, as YOU would know more what we Offer than me / I'm more into VOLUME and pleasing my agents & clients than researching spreads . . . . . .

Make-sense????




He says right here he cares more about volume than if his lines are correct.

What is the deal with this guy.

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[beedo]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

good info, raiders.

According to the Pinnacle Pulse article, -322 and -265 is not considered a bad line. Assuming Pinnacle's -322 is a fair market value for the bet, it follows that a fair expectation of it winning is 76.3%. Now consider -265, which can be expected to win 72.6% of the time. The difference is only 3.7%. So while it may seem a big jump from -322 to -265, the book offering the lower price of -265 is giving a 3.7% advantage to the player. 3.7%, would not be a bad line (using a minimum of 7% off fair market price to qualify as a bad line).

 

[beedo]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

good info, raiders.

According to the Pinnacle Pulse article, -322 and -265 is not considered a bad line. Assuming Pinnacle's -322 is a fair market value for the bet, it follows that a fair expectation of it winning is 76.3%. Now consider -265, which can be expected to win 72.6% of the time. The difference is only 3.7%. So while it may seem a big jump from -322 to -265, the book offering the lower price of -265 is giving a 3.7% advantage to the player. 3.7%, would not be a bad line (using a minimum of 7% off fair market price to qualify as a bad line).

.. so there's no good reason to call -265 to -322 a bad line based on the expected value to win. Mathematically, there's not a lot of difference.

It looks like the shop that hung -265 while the fair market value was -322 is calling it a bad line based on the side effect of getting lopsided action. They had many players unload.. But on the other hand, hey, lopsided action is not uncommon. Many games have most of the money on one side.. Disclaimer: I read page 1 of this thread and this last page, skipping everything in between. If I'm missing something please flame me harshly and I will go back and read the dirty little motherfucker.

 

[justsilly]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

HIGHLANDPARKDR = MIKE @ BFC

 

[raiders72001]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

.. so there's no good reason to call -265 to -322 a bad line based on the expected value to win. Mathematically, there's not a lot of difference.

It looks like the shop that hung -265 while the fair market value was -322 is calling it a bad line based on the side effect of getting lopsided action. They had many players unload.. But on the other hand, hey, lopsided action is not uncommon.

agree. It's opinionated, not bad.

 

[beedo]

Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

agree. It's opinionated, not bad.

Agree. BFC posted an opinionated line and got buried on it. It was not a bad line per se, but definitely leaning toward one side (intentional, or not). The problem for them is they got buried on one side - large. Play with fire and get burned. A true online bookmaker, or just a bookie located offshore is an existential question for BFC right about now. Online players don't play nice and they bang "opinionated" lines like a worthless ass whore.