So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

[2W2P2S]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

That was pretty dumb, I have to admit.:LMAO

LOL, I was really just trying to help but I did find it funny. I watched you track Dink in hockey last season and what you tabulated IMO is accurate enough. There may be a total difference either way of a full unit or less. This may save Groovin a lot of time if he trusts my opinion on your record keeping.

Overall=W157 L111, +53.14 units

 

[Herbie]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

I don't think it is any secret that Billy Walters pays for information so I'm not sure why everyone is quick to dismiss the idea...

If someone has an edge, like Mathy pointed out indirectly, it is a becomes a mathematical equation if it is +EV/-EV to pay for that information based on your roll and ability to get money down.

 

[FISHHEAD]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

I don't think it is any secret that Billy Walters pays for information so I'm not sure why everyone is quick to dismiss the idea...

If someone has an edge, like Mathy pointed out indirectly, it is a becomes a mathematical equation if it is +EV/-EV to pay for that information based on your roll and ability to get money down.

Herb, you're correct.

 

[texaswizzard]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Alan Boston can't win anymore so talking about him going tout is a waste of time. Dink did talk down about touts in the past. As my momma once told me, "Never say never".

 

[munson15]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

LOL, I was really just trying to help but I did find it funny. I watched you track Dink in hockey last season and what you tabulated IMO is accurate enough. There may be a total difference either way of a full unit or less. This may save Groovin a lot of time if he trusts my opinion on your record keeping.

Overall=W157 L111, +53.14 units

Thanks, that's exactly what I was trying to accomplish. :cheers

 

[HI McDonough]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Make fun and ridicule me if you will, but I will be his first client. I know NOTHING about hockey, but started betting his picks a few weeks before the end of the regular season last year. I made exponentially more on his picks than the 3 dimes he is asking for. Shit, if I knew how, I would have already sent him a few dimes for all the winners he has already given me.

I don't give a tinker's damn if he makes me a dime this NHL season for the dough he made me last season. Same with BuffettGambler; if he went tout, I would be his first client. Am I a client of RAS? Of course!!! At 11 in the morning, I am glued to my computer and put in my bets. Sometimes I buy some back; sometimes I don't. By the way, I was in the black last calendar year and a lot of that had to do with Dink. Give him all the shit you want but he has a far better track record than any of you knuckleheads in this thread.

I think some of you get a bigger erection insulting guys (Fezzik, Railbird, etc..) than you do by winning. Sheesh.....

P.S. I can't believe I agree with Rusty. My goodness...

 

[BAUS]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Who will be the first EOG poster to step up and ante 3k?




Baus?


Napoleon?


Doug?

I enjoy listening to Dink on the radio show. Pay for his NHL picks? Nope.

I hope that Dink and anyone who buys his package do well this NHL season, but I am fine with continuing to win on NHL by line shopping.

BAUS

 

[dinkenson]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

i have always said i do not like touts...but i have also said that i have high regard for RAS and their model...if i could get down on their plays at the original numbers i would pay and i would profit...this is not a service for the small player...i understand that...there will be no per game selections....i hope to get no more then 20 customers so the market will not fly....no advertising anywhere but here and word of mouth....
it seems like a good investment to me.....if this was a full season my price was going to be 10k and i was hoping to get 10-20 customers....the shortened season is a concern...i plan to release my first play on feb 1, since without long training camps i need to watch a few days before i am comfortable giving out plays
i did consider betting for a select clientele, this way just more fair, easier, and somewhat less risk for me...i have been a winner for a long time but getting a 40-60k head start seems prudent, sorry it offends so many of you....
funny because if fish or mathy offered me a piece of their action i would definitely pay for it.....
last thought on the subject....this has more to do with getting something out of the movie then last years winning thread

 

[FISHHEAD]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

I enjoy listening to Dink on the radio show. Pay for his NHL picks? Nope.

I hope that Dink and anyone who buys his package do well this NHL season, but I am fine with continuing to win on NHL by line shopping.

BAUS

SHARP

 

[BAUS]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

And for anyone who said earlier "can't get down enough anyway on NHL" or "can only bet $500" then you really just aren't trying very hard.

I would have absolutely no problem whatsoever getting down 30k on an NHL game in about 90 seconds.

BAUS

 

[WVU]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

. Shit, if I knew how, I would have already sent him a few dimes for all the winners he has already given me.

Dink accepts paypal. PM him for the email

 

[jfhst18]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

never mind...

 

[HI McDonough]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Dink - let me know how to get you my dough. I don't listen to the EOG radio stuff, but I sure did appreciate you last season. If Munson wants to be a client, I will pay for half of his too. If not for my trust in his recordkeeping, I would have never known about you or BG.

 

[WVU]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Dink, do you win year in and year out on your hockey plays? What % would you say you expect to hit or have averaged over say the last 10 years?

RAS is a different animal altogether. You can verify their record over the past several years. With you we only have one season and a movie

 

[LCD]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Dink can do whatever he wants. He made 50 units for people on the forum who bet his plays last year. Who cares what his agenda was. He made people money. He obviously doesn't like the shit-talking and drama that can go on here (JK hinted as much). If you were in his position would you want to keep on giving freebies to people when that includes members of the pizza brigade (SBR is worse than Auschwitz and Henry calling him a retard would be two high points). The shortened season and people banging the overnight line seems like a problem but whatever. Good luck. I hope Munson and Bimmer get a discount.

 

[Bagiant]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Is my math wrong or something? Betting $100 a game would mean that you are getting anywhere from $2500-$3000. That would only equal a break even at best. Or does he mean 25-30 over and above the cost of the service? :+clueless

 

[FISHHEAD]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Is my math wrong or something? Betting $100 a game would mean that you are getting anywhere from $2500-$3000. That would only equal a break even at best. Or does he mean 25-30 over and above the cost of the service? :+clueless

Go back in thread and read post by MATHY

 

[papa 5]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Is my math wrong or something? Betting $100 a game would mean that you are getting anywhere from $2500-$3000. That would only equal a break even at best. Or does he mean 25-30 over and above the cost of the service? :+clueless

Read post #128

 

[dinkenson]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Dink, do you win year in and year out on your hockey plays? What % would you say you expect to hit or have averaged over say the last 10 years?

RAS is a different animal altogether. You can verify their record over the past several years. With you we only have one season and a movie

percentages are irrelevant since every play is at a money line.....i hate to brag but i am pretty good...ask around.....i expect a nickel player to do well...if you are a smaller player you should not pay this price....

 

[FISHHEAD]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

percentages are irrelevant since every play is at a money line.....i hate to brag but i am pretty good...ask around.....i expect a nickel player to do well...if you are a smaller player you should not pay this price....

Hope your clients knock'um dead Dink....................:cheers

 

[WVU]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

percentages are irrelevant since every play is at a money line.....i hate to brag but i am pretty good...ask around.....i expect a nickel player to do well...if you are a smaller player you should not pay this price....

ok then how about in terms of units? How many unit per year have you beaten hockey?

 

[Woodrow Wilson]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Being a TOUT has little downside financially................little expense, potential high rewards.

Make no mistake about it, it is a very lucrative business if you can sleep at night confortably knowing you ripped off people.

I'm surprised the number of touts is not higher.

You would be a tout too if you could find people willing to pay you for plays. :btj:

Good luck Dink, but there isn't any way I'd pay Dink or any hockey handicapper one penny for plays this season.

 

[papa 5]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

I want to join the rest that wish Dink good luck. Hope it works.

 

[groovinmahoovin]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Save yourself the time. In case you have me on ignore, we're only talking about hockey here and I compiled the entire record at 1 unit per play with mature lines and the W-L +/- units is listed above.

I don't think I've ever put a poster on ignore although I did killfile people years ago on Usenet. I saw "someone" posted a record, but didn't notice the username.

 

[Lefthook]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

percentages are irrelevant since every play is at a money line.....i hate to brag but i am pretty good...ask around.....i expect a nickel player to do well...if you are a smaller player you should not pay this price....

Not to be an asshole, but do you think that you're going to find 20 guys here who bet a nickel on NHL, let alone 20 that will give you $3k for the picks? I'm sure you're a good NHL capper, and someone posted a record that was supposedly yours, and it looked good.

But I dont know if there's enough of a public history with you to justify $3k. I'm not sure you're in the RAS category after 1 year of posted results. Even RAS has a hard time each year getting guys to buy picks from the forum and his results are documented over the years.

If its the $60k you need why not get someone to stake you and bet the games yourself? Fuck the forum picks or the tout service. Get $2k down a game and make yourself more than your would selling picks to the forum. Thats how I would handle it

 

[FISHHEAD]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

You would be a tout too if you could find people willing to pay you for plays. :btj:

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Hardly.................I help people for free, and believe me, I've made many thousands of dollars.

 

[groovinmahoovin]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Given last year's volume of plays, to win 30 units this season, assuming the same volume of plays, would require an ROI of around 16-17%, or winning the equivalent of about 61% vs -110. So winning 30 units will require either running godlike or significantly increasing the volume of plays.

 

[William Lee]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

People that post on these forums make up .0000009% of any touts business. But there are thousands who will pay the 3K. Many dime players out there that don't cap games and will follow who's hot. Most of them have 1,2 maybe 3 touts they follow and ride who's hot. You guys here are clueless as to the amount of players who pay good money for plays.

 

[KingRevolver]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Somebody please post it for Groove so he doesn't spend all that time coming up with figures that are marginally different than mine.:cheers

That's exactly what 2W2P2S did when he quoted your post.

:cheers

 

[Woodrow Wilson]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Not to be an asshole, but do you think that you're going to find 20 guys here who bet a nickel on NHL, let alone 20 that will give you $3k for the picks?

If he can get at least 4 or 5 customers it's worth the effort. He already was posting plays here so why not charge for them?

 

[Woodrow Wilson]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Hardly.................I help people for free, and believe me, I've made many thousands of dollars.

You know what you'd do more than any body else.

However, I don't believe you for one second that you wouldn't be a tout if you could find even a handful of customers paying you a few grand for a half season's hockey plays. :scooter

 

[mathy]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Paying for % of action is different than paying for plays.

To make $3000 worth it, the buyer has to be a significant bettor. If you have several of these buyers, the market is going to move, not to mention that dink is hitting them first.

Every market in which I've ever bet, the good numbers do not last very long. Openers on major markets move quickly. 2nd half numbers move quickly. Prop numbers move quickly at any shop that won't ban you the same day, and the move can sometimes be 40c given the juice. Hockey numbers will move. Will Pinn even take 10k on an NHL game next week? We'll see.

So if I subscribed to the service and wasn't in front of my computer 24/7, I'd eventually log on, see Dink's side, then see that Pinnacle/Matchy/Cris/Greek have all moved 5-10 cents against me. Then I'd shop around looking for places that haven't moved and bet there.

But wait... I can do that without paying $3000... it's called steam chasing (if you're on the computer 24/7) or line shopping (if you get distracted by porn or like fresh air once in a while).

Apparently dink's hockey record is excellent... and I am very happy for him. But hard to see the value for subscribers.

 

[Boys911]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

I'll be wishing that Dink has a terrible hockey season. Then maybe his clients will learn a lesson about using touts and Dink might feel bad for his clients and give their money back.

 

[FISHHEAD]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Paying for % of action is different than paying for plays.

To make $3000 worth it, the buyer has to be a significant bettor. If you have several of these buyers, the market is going to move, not to mention that dink is hitting them first.

Every market in which I've ever bet, the good numbers do not last very long. Openers on major markets move quickly. 2nd half numbers move quickly. Prop numbers move quickly at any shop that won't ban you the same day, and the move can sometimes be 40c given the juice. Hockey numbers will move. Will Pinn even take 10k on an NHL game next week? We'll see.

So if I subscribed to the service and wasn't in front of my computer 24/7, I'd eventually log on, see Dink's side, then see that Pinnacle/Matchy/Cris/Greek have all moved 5-10 cents against me. Then I'd shop around looking for places that haven't moved and bet there.

But wait... I can do that without paying $3000... it's called steam chasing (if you're on the computer 24/7) or line shopping (if you get distracted by porn or like fresh air once in a while).

Apparently dink's hockey record is excellent... and I am very happy for him. But hard to see the value for subscribers.

I prefer EOG and AGWEB....................balanced out by a brisk one hour walk.

:cheers


By the way, when you post, everybody should be all ears, tremendous post, as usual.

 

[travisdog]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

$3,000 it is.

Dink said the service runs from February 1 through the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Expectations are to profit between 25 and 30 units.

ONLY 25-30 units of profit??? He should be netting 5-7units per WEEK.
Thats a steep price for only one great hockey season, and I dont consider +50 units anything to hoot about for a sport covering 6 months of action. Ridiculous.op:

 

[mathy]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Fish... posters are priority number one for me.

Most are good people, and frankly ... non-gamblers tend to be pretty dull :cheers

 

[FISHHEAD]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Fish... posters are priority number one for me.

Most are good people, and frankly ... non-gamblers tend to be pretty dull :cheers

:cheers

 

[mathy]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

+50 units nothing to hoot about?

Sir you must be the world's greatest gambler! Congratulations!

 

[smartymarty]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

anyone who doesn't pay for advice knows all there is to know. that isn't me.
just because $ is attached to advice is it bad??? people always looking
for info and other stuff for free. can't stand cheap people. for me its all about ROI.
invest 3000, come out with a 6000 , i double my money in a few months.
i'd do that anytime.
and it's true, billy, warren, and many successful investors pay for advice.
i'm not ashamed.
i wonder if dink is charging 3000 for a partial season, what would have been the
charge for a full season??? honestly, 3000 for a full season is a no brainer.
i'll need to ponder a bit on the 3000 for a partial season.

 

[hels]

Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

I haven't been around EOG long so I don't know any of dinks history or the other poster who kept track of dinks record.

I've posted at poker forums since 2004, and sportsbook forums since 2009 and in that time have seen and heard many scams. Even across the street earlier in the year PWAD scammed griz for over 10k -- of course this is only hearsay as I don't personally know any of those involved.

Numbers can be easily manipulated, in 2010 I called out lakerboy in his NBA thread where he claimed to be up over 110 units, I went through the thread and calculated all posted plays and he was down a little over 65 units. I posted the spreadsheet, told others to double check my numbers etc etc. His thread was closed that night.

Unless a poster has a thread with all plays posted and others are critical and check his numbers then I won't believe anything I hear.

This could very easily be a scam. I hope it isn't but it's been done before and will be done again.