Are we really doing the right thing regarding Covid?

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MrTop

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What about the hospitals that are filled up along with the insurance costs.. This will add to the insurance bills & protection in the future.
 
mr merlin

mr merlin

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IWishIWasAPro said:
But I do understand we are stuck between a rock and hard place. There's no way struggling businesses will cooperate and shut down without some sort of help. It's just not plausible to expect them to when livelihoods are on the line. I agree in this sense. A lot of families don't have the luxury of being well off.

This virus (whatever it is) destroyed the world. When you're well off and haven't been directly impacted by getting it or knowing somebody who did I can certainly see how one can downplay everything.

I don't understand for the life of me how McConnell can come out and say the economy is better when he knows that's only the case for some industries. Not to mention people with degrees and experience are lowering their standards and probably getting anything entry level.

Fuck all the games. Our founding fathers are absolutely rolling over in their graves. America is a melting pot of the entire world. I don't want to hear other countries input when it comes to this virus.
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You sure are a nervous nellie, feel free to hunker down, the rest of us will plug along like always. And i think you're watching the wrong news channels, the sky is not falling.
 
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IWishIWasAPro

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That's what I'm saying with these tests. Unreliable and inconsistent.

I like many just want things to go back to normal. I don't want to keep adding covid to the list of handicap factors.
 
mr merlin

mr merlin

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IWishIWasAPro said:
That's what I'm saying with these tests. Unreliable and inconsistent.

I like many just want things to go back to normal. I don't want to keep adding covid to the list of handicap factors.
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Even the PCR test, which is regarded as the most reliable is not perfect, we're doing 1,5 million tests/day, if 2-3% are false positives(it could even be higher) then they number in the tens of thousands daily, to the point where perhaps a 1/3 to 1/2 of all positives are false.
 
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railbird said:
IT will always be with us, just dance around it. like car crashes. if ya get take hydroxycholorquine-zinc
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You can choose not to get in metal death traps. You can't stop an infected maskless covidiot from coughing in your face & thereby murdering you.
 
railbird

railbird

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X-Files said:
You can choose not to get in metal death traps. You can't stop an infected maskless covidiot from coughing in your face & thereby murdering you.
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i know you live in an urban immigrant infested shithole in Vancouver, I do not, i live in a Right wing beach town in Southern Cal and I naturally social distance anyway.
 
Viejo Dinosaur

Viejo Dinosaur

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railbird said:
i know you live in an urban immigrant infested shithole in Vancouver, I do not, i live in a Right wing beach town in Southern Cal and I naturally social distance anyway.
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I think that those who live near you prefer to be social distancing from you....they hate to be on video without their consent.....
 
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railbird said:
i know you live in an urban immigrant infested shithole in Vancouver, I do not, i live in a Right wing beach town in Southern Cal and I naturally social distance anyway.
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Urban immigrant infested. Doesn't that speak to how the vast majority of the USA historically was populated from 1492 onwards.

So if the USA is virtually the same as Vancouver or Canada in that regard, what makes one a "shithole" & the other not a "shithole"?

Isn't America also a such a "shithole" if Canada is too because of immigrants.

And likewise your "beach town in Southern Cal" a shithole if Vancouver is a "shithole" because of immigrants?
 
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X-Files said:
You can choose not to get in metal death traps. You can't stop an infected maskless covidiot from coughing in your face & thereby murdering you.
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railbird said:
i know you live in an urban immigrant infested shithole in Vancouver, I do not, i live in a Right wing beach town in Southern Cal and I naturally social distance anyway.
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It takes 2 social distancing for social distancing to succeed. If you're in a grocery store, or walking on the sidewalk, or at a doctor clinic or pharmacy, for example, you can't stop a maskless covidiot from getting within a foot of you & coughing in your face.
 
Bucky

Bucky

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I really do not understand why an emergency cannot be declared and start the shots. It took less time to invent the atom bomb. As far as Pfizer goes and their announcement Monday here is a copy and paste that sheds some light on time to go.



The press release from Pfizer does not include the two months of safety data required by the FDA before companies can apply for emergency use authorization; Pfizer says it should have this by next week. The company’s Phase III clinical trial began in July and has enrolled 43,538 participants, with about 30 percent of U.S. participants from “racially and ethnically diverse backgrounds.” But beyond that, nothing has been made public yet about how participants from different demographics have reacted to the vaccine.





How are we going to be able to tell the difference after the shots start? Will those people be wearing masks until everybody gets a shot?
 
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Valuist

EOG Master
Bucky said:
I really do not understand why an emergency cannot be declared and start the shots. It took less time to invent the atom bomb. As far as Pfizer goes and their announcement Monday here is a copy and paste that sheds some light on time to go.



The press release from Pfizer does not include the two months of safety data required by the FDA before companies can apply for emergency use authorization; Pfizer says it should have this by next week. The company’s Phase III clinical trial began in July and has enrolled 43,538 participants, with about 30 percent of U.S. participants from “racially and ethnically diverse backgrounds.” But beyond that, nothing has been made public yet about how participants from different demographics have reacted to the vaccine.





How are we going to be able to tell the difference after the shots start? Will those people be wearing masks until everybody gets a shot?
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We need to find out more about the side effects. There's a reason why vaccines aren't approved quickly.
 
Bucky

Bucky

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How scientifically accurate can these clinical trials be? Placebo group may have socially distanced and wore a mask?

The group that got the shot may have wore a mask and socially distanced and then that 90% is not really 90%!

So, we are waiting to see side effects that have not happened in the first 5 months but let's give it another 2 weeks?

How can we win a war with so many, "I don't wannas?

I don't wanna wear a mask
I don't wanna socially distance
I don't wanna take a shot
I don't wanna authorize the shot until 10 million people die
I don't wanna close my bar and would rather have people catch Corona here and pass it on to people who will die
I don't wanna close my dine in restaurant and would rather have people catch Corona and pass it on to people who will die
I don't wanna have the schools close and would rather have students catch Corona and pass it on to people who will die
I don't wanna close the economy because my 401 k will take a hit

Just not impressed with the FDA going the extra yard to save American lives. In this case, the FDA is hurting Americans more than it is helping them! Get off their dead butt and get this done.
 
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FairWarning

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It doesn’t do much good when our elected leaders tell us what we have to do, then they do the opposite. Look at Gov Newsom this week.

nice thing is They have plenty of supporters like BigRunner.
 
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Patrick McIrish

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X-Files said:
It takes 2 social distancing for social distancing to succeed. If you're in a grocery store, or walking on the sidewalk, or at a doctor clinic or pharmacy, for example, you can't stop a maskless covidiot from getting within a foot of you & coughing in your face.
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Is that a regular occurrence for you?

:oops:
 
railbird

railbird

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Bucky said:
How scientifically accurate can these clinical trials be? Placebo group may have socially distanced and wore a mask?

The group that got the shot may have wore a mask and socially distanced and then that 90% is not really 90%!

So, we are waiting to see side effects that have not happened in the first 5 months but let's give it another 2 weeks?

How can we win a war with so many, "I don't wannas?

I don't wanna wear a mask
I don't wanna socially distance
I don't wanna take a shot
I don't wanna authorize the shot until 10 million people die
I don't wanna close my bar and would rather have people catch Corona here and pass it on to people who will die
I don't wanna close my dine in restaurant and would rather have people catch Corona and pass it on to people who will die
I don't wanna have the schools close and would rather have students catch Corona and pass it on to people who will die
I don't wanna close the economy because my 401 k will take a hit

Just not impressed with the FDA going the extra yard to save American lives. In this case, the FDA is hurting Americans more than it is helping them! Get off their dead butt and get this done.
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free will. Have you accepted Jesus? or are you going to spend eternity in hell?
 
blueline

blueline

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in a store non-mask wearing scumbag POS waking down an aisle directly towards me let's out a big hacking cough...doesnt evwn attempt to cover his mouth....hope he drops dead
 
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Patrick McIrish said:
Is that a regular occurrence for you?

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No, but i've had a maskless grocery store manager walk within about 2 feet of my while talking to me. That's all it takes to murder someone with your C-19 infection.

There's also lots of homeless people & drug addicts in the city & area i live in who have been getting more aggressive during the pandemic. They are a concern in a similar way.

Those are just a couple examples among many of how easily the virus could be transmitted & ruin or destroy someone else's life through covidiocy.
 
pete mcmeat

pete mcmeat

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the biggest thing you can do to combat covid is keeping your immune system strong......every adult should be taking this daily

10,000 iu vitamin a
5,000 iu vitamin d
1,000 mg vitamin c
6 drops of lugols iodine

i almost never wear a mask.....pretty much only give in when at a casino
 
mr merlin

mr merlin

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pete mcmeat said:
the biggest thing you can do to combat covid is keeping your immune system strong......every adult should be taking this daily

10,000 iu vitamin a
5,000 iu vitamin d
1,000 mg vitamin c
6 drops of lugols iodine

i almost never wear a mask.....pretty much only give in when at a casino
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I saw a report of another apparent treatment that is very good, some kind of common anti depressant drug was given to the treatment group and none developed serious symptoms, in the control group something like 60 got worse and at least one was ventilated. i forget the name but it was like fumotonide.
 
WildBill

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Scoldings or not, the people aren't really listening that much anymore. People are willing to mostly wear masks and do some modest things to keep distance, but they aren't giving up things like family gatherings, small parties and going out to shop or dine. The numbers we are seeing basically reflect that, the increases in cases are just data points to a numb population. We are heading to either full herd immunity or a semi-effective vaccine in the coming months. If people don't want to take the vaccine they will get away with it long enough until something like herd immunity exists. Maybe some stuff gets closed early, some people stay home more, but really its nothing like it was in April and I can't see it getting there again for most of us.
 
kane

kane

EOG master
OAN? You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe anything that far right network says, not surprising Merlin the Moron watches that fake news bullshit
 
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Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
X-Files said:
There's also lots of homeless people & drug addicts in the city & area i live in who have been getting more aggressive during the pandemic. They are a concern in a similar way.
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If drug addicts and aggressive homeless people are routinely getting up in your face perhaps a gun would make more sense?

I never realized how blessed I was, can't remember the last time someone got up in my face and coughed.
 
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