150th Run for the Roses
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Hopefully it changed
dfish
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Agree
Viejo Dinosaur
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Secretariat had nothing to worry about…
Is Collmus who announced this race for real? This 3 once he got thru on the rail was a full length ahead top of the stretch, Collmus is concentrating on the outside closers. He doesn't acknowledge the 3 until mid stretch a good 2-3 lengths ahead of the nearest horse.
Meantime, Churchill Downs track announcer Travis Stone produced a brilliant call.
Stone is arrogant, but he has a right to be.
Murphy’s Best
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Anybody here win yesterday with Mystik Dan?
Wow is right. Watched the replay after you posted this. Very nice race after all the trouble he had and the extra ground he ran. Nice catch.
Not the easiest of trips battling a fast pace 3 wide. First half run in a solid :46 3/5. The final 4 furlongs in about :52. The real running was the first 6 furlongs and then the race collapsed.
sharky99
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Very well done by Travis, thanks for sharing the video JK
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They must've look hard at that because the time between finish and official was abnormally long.
No official inquiry. And it wouldn't have effected the winner but for public perception, that HAS to require a stewards inquiry.
Someday the Japanese horsemen will realize that going 5 wide on the Churchill dirt will get you beat. Better off with a local Churchill rider like Brian Hernandez or Corey Lanerie, (and before them, Calvin Borel), who understand how important it is to save ground at Churchill.
I wonder if Ohtani (or Ohtani's interpreter) bet the Japanese horse?
Haha.
Haha.
Exactly.
And jockey Brian Hernandez pressed the button at just the right time.
Reminiscent of jock Gary Stevens aboard Winning Colors when "Colors" had just enough left to hold off a late-charging Forty Niner in the 1988 Kentucky Derby.
Reminiscent of jock Gary Stevens aboard Winning Colors when "Colors" had just enough left to hold off a late-charging Forty Niner in the 1988 Kentucky Derby.
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mrbowling300
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Wonder how Vic Stauffer would have performed as the Churchill Downs Track Announcer?
blueline
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"We’re not committed to the Preakness. No, not yet,” McPeek said the morning after his Mystik Dan won the 150th running of the Kentucky Derby by a nose over Sierra Leone. “We’ll just watch him over the next week. It will be one of those where we’ll probably take (the decision) up to the last minute. … We’ll let him tell us. If he’s not in the feed tub, he won’t run.”
blueline
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Were the foot issue rumors true...maybe will never know....I lean towards true
I appreciate Vic Stauffer's talent in the announcer's booth.
As I understand it, Stauffer's personality sometimes rubs racing people the wrong way.
On a report card in elementary school, Stauffer would have received an unsatisfactory mark in the box labeled "Works well with others."
i disagree on the inquiry against the 3 horse.
If there was going to be an inquiry it would have been on the 2 horse. the 2 started out in the 8 or 9 path when they turned for home. He lugged in all the way down the stretch leaning and bumping the 11 horse, and at the wire the 2 was in the 3 path.
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Sierra Jockey being brought in for discussion and potential fine. Finish to official clock was most definitely delayed race day.
blueline
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"The Stewards review every race in Kentucky live and by video replay before posting it official and they followed the same procedure for the 150th running of the Kentucky Derby," the statement said, via Sports Illustrated's Pat Forde. "After conducting their standard review of the race, determining no further review or investigation was necessary to conclude there were no incidents that altered the finish of the race, and seeing there were no objections filed, the Stewards posted the Kentucky Derby official."
What were the actual numbers?
Mindframe certainly didn't need to run any faster. I know he had run a 0 at GP.
Forward move, regression, pair, etc.
All terms popularized by the "sheet guys."
I wonder how much interpretation is used in assigning each number or if the numbers are strictly mechanical.
Do you see where I'm going here?
The creators can massage the numbers to promote situations where sheet readers respond positively.
I always thought groups like Ragozin and Thorograph had the best of both worlds: If a customer won money, he was buying the most accurate set of numbers in the game.
And if a customer lost money, he simply did not have the experience or wherewithal to properly interpret the data.
All terms popularized by the "sheet guys."
I wonder how much interpretation is used in assigning each number or if the numbers are strictly mechanical.
Do you see where I'm going here?
The creators can massage the numbers to promote situations where sheet readers respond positively.
I always thought groups like Ragozin and Thorograph had the best of both worlds: If a customer won money, he was buying the most accurate set of numbers in the game.
And if a customer lost money, he simply did not have the experience or wherewithal to properly interpret the data.
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That said, I've often heard it said the "sheet guys" swear by the turf numbers.
More marketing?
More marketing?
Back in the day, when Las Vegas race books inside the Barbary Coast and Imperial Palace offered handsome rebates, the biggest players in the country were "sheet readers."