Adrian Hill NFL Referee and Crew

mrbowling300

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My wife and I were flying to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico at 6.15am the morning after Thanksgiving.

We decided to stay at the hotel at Detroit Metro Airport the night before, which was Thanksgiving evening.

We went down to the bar/restaurant for drinks and appetizers.

The table next to us had 8 loud mouth guys and 1 woman.

My wife was looking at them, and mentioned one had an NFL hat and another had a tee-shirt with the NFL logo.

Our server confirmed it was the NFL ref crew who worked the Det/Chi Thanksgiving day game in Detroit, who was headed by Adrian Hill.

I wish I took some video of this gang. They were very loud and obnoxious. Probably half drunk.

Adrian Hill was sitting there with a 12 inch cigar in his mouth yapping away non stop. Every other word was an F bomb.

These guys acted like they were the game and the game couldn't happen without them.

Some of the boasting was they were in complete control of the game, and how they were bragging how they shut down certain plays.

They were very aware of Goff coming off injury, etc.

Adrian Hill referred to Mike Pierra and Gene Saratore as "mother-fukers" who didn't deserve their positions on TV (he was implying that he could do the same thing, and they were no more knowledgeable than himself).

It was very interesting hearing these guys talk about various plays, players, etc.

The most interesting thing was a TV had the Dallas game right next to them, which had one of the most penalties ever in a game.

These guys were totally oblivious as to what was going on in that game. Not one of them stopped to look at the TV to see what was going on! It was as if the broadcast didn't even exist to them!

Quite an interesting evening to say the least!
 
mrbowling300

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John Kelly said:
Did you enjoy Puerto Vallarta, 300?
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PV was fabulous. Warm, upper 80s, love the people, food, location! Worst part was the travel down. 6.15am flight connecting through ATL. Equipment problems (a sensor of some sort) was failing. By the time it was fixed, we left at 8am, missed our connection in ATL. Ended up being rerouted through Mexico City with a 6 hour layover there. Finally got into PV at 12.30am, a full 10 hours later than originally expected. I find that when I'm down there, I start to speak more and more in Spanish. I'm not fluent, but know enough to get by. Back in ATL, at customs, I said gracias to the guy as I passed by, and he snapped back "you are in America now, we say thank you"! What an ass hole! Food in PV is still relatively cheap. For example, we had dinner at a very nice place, We each had two margaritas, appetizers, and main course. Total cost was equivalent of $50 US

I'm assuming you are still in CR....how is your Spanish?
 
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These major league refs are mostly total pricks you can just tell by their attitude. They love the all-powerful positions they get and clearly go out of their way to make certain players and coaches pay if they don't bend over and kiss their feet. I saw it last night at the Nuggets game where Tony Brothers tossed Jokic out yet again. He was calling a particularly horrible game but it just gets worse when Jokic gets kneed in the nuts and no call. Then he goes down and gets poked in the face by the same player who clearly realizes he can antagonize him and Brothers and crew are going to look the other way. Sure enough Jokic gets pissed and refs say see ya asshole.

You know its bad when the whole arena knows that's Tony Brothers out there, the worst ref in the NBA. A couple of fans a row in front of me were yelling out stuff about his wife and kids, they knew their names too. Not saying I condone that shit, but still how bad an official must you be when fans know all that about you. Refs should be nearly invisible out there, but that's clearly not the case.
 
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A lot of folks don't realize that the NFL make particularly poor choices (intentionally?) as the head of referees. About 10 years ago, they had a former black official named Johnson performing the job and making 1.5 mllion dollars per year. Johnson was so bad the league fired him from that position and he became a line judge for a few years to max out his pension. The league then hired undistinguished referees Mike Perreira and Dean Blandino to perform the job. Perreira did something unethical and was basically fired. No sure why Blandino left or was let go. Former white hat Riberon has been in charge the last few years. Although I suspect that John Parry is a bit of a prick, I think that he would be a good choice for the league job.. Probably easier to make less money doing the tv gig which Parry does well.
 
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Carl Johnson Sr. who is referee #101 and a current line of scrimmage official, was the first full-time official the NFL hired. He served as the leagues VP of officiating, but resigned (probably was told to resign to avoid being fired) and later returned to the field.

He was rumored to have punched a live-in girlfriend. The charges later were dropped, and the league briefly received some bad press.
 
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Hill made unwanted headlines during a January 3, 2021 game when he called a "roughing-the-passer" penalty against Detroit Lions safety Tracy Walker after he sacked Kirk Cousins of the Minnesota Vikings on a 4th and goal play. The sack, which would have given the Lions the ball, appeared to be routine as the Lions players started to celebrate before realizing the penalty flag was against them. Cousins told Walker "I don't necessarily agree with that call, but I'll take it" as players on both sides of the field looked befuddled about the call. The Vikings would score a touchdown two plays later and go on to win the game 37-35. Both social media and mainstream media outlets covered the call with headlines such as "Tracy Walker’s phantom personal foul penalty causes uprising on social media" (Detroit Sports Nation), "NFL fans could not believe the horrendous, game-changing roughing call from Lions-Vikings" (USA Today), "Detroit Lions robbed by one of the worst calls ever in game vs. Minnesota Vikings" (Detroit Free Press), "Ridiculous roughing call on Kirk Cousins sack sets up Vikings' game-winning TD" (Yahoo Sports), "Lions flagged for roughing passer against Vikings on simple sack, befuddles fans" (Fox News) and "Worst Call in NFL History Aids Vikings in 37-35 Win against Lions" (Sports Illustrated). Though it seemed to be a blown call, Hill explained it as a clear-cut penalty in a post-game interview saying “By rule, one of the categories for roughing-the-passer is full body weight, where the tackler lands with his full body weight on the quarterback. That’s the category this play fell into.”
 
winkyduck

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mrbowling300 said:
My wife and I were flying to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico at 6.15am the morning after Thanksgiving.

We decided to stay at the hotel at Detroit Metro Airport the night before, which was Thanksgiving evening.

We went down to the bar/restaurant for drinks and appetizers.

The table next to us had 8 loud mouth guys and 1 woman.

My wife was looking at them, and mentioned one had an NFL hat and another had a tee-shirt with the NFL logo.

Our server confirmed it was the NFL ref crew who worked the Det/Chi Thanksgiving day game in Detroit, who was headed by Adrian Hill.

The most interesting thing was a TV had the Dallas game right next to them, which had one of the most penalties ever in a game.

These guys were totally oblivious as to what was going on in that game. Not one of them stopped to look at the TV to see what was going on! It was as if the broadcast didn't even exist to them!

Quite an interesting evening to say the least!
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Completely understand this. As much work as they put in during the week of watching "film" the last thing they wanted to do was watch more. They just did a game. They needed to unwind. I know one of the last things I want to do when I was reffing was watch another basketball game. I wanted to do anything BUT watch a game because I cannot watch a game without looking at it from a Ref's P.O.V.

The game winning basket in the 2020 TBT made me "lose it." The final play was one where the official on the baseline blew one of the easiest calls of his life. I mentioned it on Twitter and was told to "STFU" because I had no idea what I was talking about even though I was 100% right.

So I completely understand this crew not wanting to watch the game...........and as for the arrogance part - also not a shock. Pro (Or very high college level) officials are arrogant. They feel they have a right to be because of what level they are at.
 
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Don Eagleston said:
A lot of folks don't realize that the NFL make particularly poor choices (intentionally?) as the head of referees. About 10 years ago, they had a former black official named Johnson performing the job and making 1.5 mllion dollars per year. Johnson was so bad the league fired him from that position and he became a line judge for a few years to max out his pension. The league then hired undistinguished referees Mike Perreira and Dean Blandino to perform the job. Perreira did something unethical and was basically fired. No sure why Blandino left or was let go. Former white hat Riberon has been in charge the last few years. Although I suspect that John Parry is a bit of a prick, I think that he would be a good choice for the league job.. Probably easier to make less money doing the tv gig which Parry does well.
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He was part of yesterday's Super Bowl crew.

Side judge or Line judge.
 
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