An Iraqi prisoner holds the answer to this 9/11 mystery. ATTA in the Prague

dirty

EOG Master
AT WAR

[FONT=Garamond, Times]Atta in Prague?[/FONT]
[FONT=Garamond, Times]An Iraqi prisoner holds the answer to this 9/11 mystery.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Times]
BY EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN
Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:01 a.m. EST
PRAGUE--On Oct. 27, 2001, the New York Times reported (erroneously) that 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta "flew to the Czech Republic on April 8 and met with [an] Iraqi intelligence officer," helping to give credence to the so-called Prague connection. It subsequently cast doubt on it, editorializing in November 2005 that the alleged meeting between the hijacker and the Iraqi was part of President Bush and his team's "rewriting of history" based on nothing more than a false tale "from an unreliable drunk." But was the putative Prague connection solely an invention of the Bush administration--or was it the product of an incomplete intelligence operation?
To sort out the confusion, I met earlier this month in Prague with Jiri Ruzek, chief at the time of the Czech counterintelligence service, BIS. Mr. Ruzek is in a position to know what happened. He personally oversaw the investigation of Iraq's alleged covert activities that began, with full American collaboration, nearly two years before Mr. Bush became president and resulted, some five months before the 9/11 attack, in the expulsion of Ahmad al-Ani, the Iraqi intelligence officer alleged to have met with Atta. I also spoke with ex-Foreign Minister Jan Kavan, who headed the intelligence committee to whom Mr. Ruzek reported, and to Ambassador Hynek Kmonicek, who, as deputy foreign minister at the time, handled the al-Ani expulsion for the foreign ministry. According to them, here's how the Prague connection developed.
The proximate cause for BIS interest in al-Ani was a sensational revelation of Jabir Salim, the Iraqi consul who defected in Prague in December 1998. Mr. Salim said in his debriefings that the Mukhabarat, Iraq's intelligence service, had given him $150,000 and tasked him with carrying out a covert action against an American target in the Czech Republic: Using a freelance terrorist, he was to blow up the headquarters of Radio Free Europe in Wenceslas Square, in the heart of Prague.
This intelligence about state-sponsored terrorism was taken very seriously by both America and the Czech Republic. The U.S., for its part, doubled security at the Radio Free Europe facility and began its own countersurveillance, including photographing suspicious individuals in Wenceslas Square. The BIS did what counterintelligence services do in such circumstances: It sought to penetrate the Iraq Embassy by recruiting Arabic-speaking employees familiar with its operations. The source the BIS used, according to Mr. Ruzek, was neither unreliable nor a drunk.


Ahmad al-Ani was Jabir Salim's replacement at the embassy. Soon after he arrived in March 1999, he was picked up by U.S. countersurveillance cameras. The interest in him intensified after the BIS learned from its penetration of the embassy that he was attempting to acquire explosives and contact foreign-based Arabs. Then, on April 9, 2001, the BIS's source in the embassy reported that al-Ani had gotten into a car with an unknown foreign Arab. After the car managed to elude BIS surveillance, concern mounted that he was in the process of recruiting his bomber, and, since the BIS could not find the mystery Arab, Mr. Ruzek decided to act pre-emptively. He recommended to Foreign Minister Kavan that al-Ani be immediately expelled from the Czech Republic. He was given 48 hours to get out of Prague on April 19--and he returned to Baghdad.
On Sept. 11, Mohamed Atta's picture was shown on Czech television, and the next day the BIS's source in the Iraqi Embassy dropped a bombshell. He told his BIS case officer that he recognized Atta as the Arab who got in the car with al-Ani on April 9. Mr. Ruzek immediately relayed the secret information to Washington through the CIA liaison. The FBI sent an interrogation team to Prague, which, after questioning and testing the source, concluded that there was a 70% likelihood that he was not intentionally lying and sincerely believed that he saw Atta with al-Ani. The issue remained whether he had mistaken someone who resembled Atta for the 9/11 hijacker. Meanwhile, records were found showing that Atta had applied for a Czech visa in Germany in 2000, and made at least one previous trip to Prague (from Bonn, by bus, on June 2, 2000, flying to Newark, N.J., the next day).
Less than a week after Mr. Ruzek shared the BIS's confidential information with American intelligence, it was leaked. The Associated Press reported, "A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the United States has received information from a foreign intelligence service that Mohamed Atta, a hijacker aboard one of the planes that slammed into the World Trade Center, met earlier this year in Europe with an Iraqi intelligence agent." CBS named al-Ani as the person meeting with Atta in Prague.
Mr. Ruzek was furious. He considered what he had passed on to the FBI to be unevaluated raw intelligence, and its disclosure not only risked compromising the BIS's penetration in the Iraqi Embassy but also greatly reduced the chances of confirming the intelligence in the first place. In Baghdad, al-Ani, through an Iraqi spokesman, denied ever meeting Atta. In Prague, Czech officials who had not been fully briefed added to the confusion. Prime Minister Milos Zeeman, wrongly assuming that the meeting had been confirmed, stated on CNN that Atta and al-Ani had met to discuss Radio Free Europe, not the 9/11 attack.
Meanwhile, pressure on Mr. Ruzek mounted. Richard Armitage, Colin Powell's deputy, complained to Prime Minister Zeeman that Mr. Ruzek was not cooperating in resolving the case, even though Mr. Ruzek had extended unprecedented access to the FBI and CIA, access that included allowing their representatives to sit on the task force reviewing the case. He was also warned by a colleague in German intelligence that he could become entangled in a heated hawk-versus-dove struggle over Iraq.
Mr. Ruzek decided that if this was an American game, he did not want to be a part of it. So he threw the ball back in the CIA's court, taking the position that if al-Ani did meet Atta for a nefarious purpose, it would have been not on his own initiative but as a representative of the Mukhabarat. The answer was not in Prague but in Iraq's intelligence files; and the CIA and FBI would have to use their own intelligence capabilities to obtain further information about al-Ani's assignment. That more or less concluded the Czech role in the investigation.
The FBI had by this time established that Atta checked out of the Diplomat Inn in Virginia Beach and cashed a check for $8,000 from a SunTrust account on April 4, 2001, and was seen again in Florida on April 11, 2001. But it could not account for his movements during this period (or how he used that money), though there was no record of Atta using his passport to travel outside the U.S. The CIA also drew a blank, and Director George Tenet testified on June 18, 2002 before a Joint Committee of Congress: "Atta allegedly traveled outside the U.S. in early April 2001 to meet with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague, we are still working to confirm or deny this allegation. It is possible that Atta traveled under an unknown alias since we have been unable to establish that Atta left the U.S. or entered Europe in April 2001 under his true name or any known aliases."
Al-Ani was captured by the CIA in Baghdad in 2003, and he remains in detention in Iraq. Though no one has been allowed to interview him, he told the CIA that he was not anywhere near Prague at the time of the meeting. Although Mr. Ruzek termed al-Ani's claim of being elsewhere "pure nonsense," the CIA had evidently found it could go no further with the vexing case. Mr. Tenet, on March 9, 2004, told a closed session of the Senate Armed Service Committee, "Although we cannot rule it out, we are increasingly skeptical such a meeting occurred."


Before 9/11, when the investigation into al-Ani's activities was initiated, both the CIA and the BIS took deadly serious the allegation of state-sponsored terrorism directed against Radio Free Europe. Both agencies cooperated in attempting to thwart it, accepting the information furnished by the BIS penetration agent as sufficiently reliable to expel al-Ani. After 9/11, with Iraq now on the Bush administration's agenda, the subject of state-sponsored terrorism became a political hot potato, as Mr. Ruzek learned, that could easily burn anyone who touched it. So hot that if the CIA even questioned al-Ani about the instruction he had concerning blowing up Radio Free Europe, it never disclosed the answers to the BIS. So, like many other intelligence cases that become politicized, the Prague connection, and all that led up to it, was consigned to a murky limbo. Mr. Epstein, author of "The Big Picture" (Random House, 2005), is writing a book on the 9/11 Commission
[/FONT]
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
Can you still not see through all the bullshit? 9/11 was an inside job, it's so obvious it's ridiculous.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Holy shit...you are such a idiot....

I didn't respond to your last idiotic statement that the towers didn't fall becuase of the planes....I highly doubt that the towers would have fell if the planes wouldn't have hit them..:cheers



and to answer your questions Truthfully....The towers didn't fall directly becuase the planes hit them...they fell becuase of the Fuel Buring so hot that the protective coating burned off the Steel Beams and then the fire got so hot it cuased them to melt...That is why they collapsed from the top down...and if you think the firemen went up there to plant bombs or Explosive devices and then die..you are as anti American as any Jihadist.

It is a Damn shame when You leftists hate George Bush so bad that you come up with these Ridiculous outlandish Theories:hung


DAmn shame Yall keep getting beat and outthought by what ya'll consider an Idiot:cocktail :+signs11-
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
No, firemen did not plant explosives. They were there already as is always the case with controlled demolitions. Fire has never caused a steel building to collapse. I challenge you to show me when a steel building has collapsed from fire...and doint point to 9/11. Furthermore "I highly doubt the towers would have fell if the planes wouldn't have hit them" oh yeah, did a plane hit building 7? The most ridiclous theory of all is the one that 19 arabs hijacked four planes, eluded NORAD, and crashed the planes into the towers and pentagon and the towers and bulding 7 fell as a result of fire.

dirty said:
Holy shit...you are such a idiot....

I didn't respond to your last idiotic statement that the towers didn't fall becuase of the planes....I highly doubt that the towers would have fell if the planes wouldn't have hit them..:cheers



and to answer your questions Truthfully....The towers didn't fall directly becuase the planes hit them...they fell becuase of the Fuel Buring so hot that the protective coating burned off the Steel Beams and then the fire got so hot it cuased them to melt...That is why they collapsed from the top down...and if you think the firemen went up there to plant bombs or Explosive devices and then die..you are as anti American as any Jihadist.

It is a Damn shame when You leftists hate George Bush so bad that you come up with these Ridiculous outlandish Theories:hung


DAmn shame Yall keep getting beat and outthought by what ya'll consider an Idiot:cocktail :+signs11-
 
Last edited:

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
FYI, On the eve of a Republican National Convention invoking 9/11 symbols, sound bytes and imagery, half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall say that some of our leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act," according to the poll conducted by Zogby International. The poll of New York residents was conducted from Tuesday August 24 through Thursday August 26, 2004. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.5.
 

dirty

EOG Master
LOL at the NORAD Comment......Those planes took off from within our Borders...NORAD has nothing to do with this...You Obviously know nothing that you talk about in this situation....Sure our Military could have shot the planes down after we knew they were HiJacked but who knew they would be flown into Buildings and the Pentagon


And you are a Friggin Lunatic if you think that a steel Building Built 75 years ago is built to the standards of today....And do you Know how they Make Steel beams....they heat it up and pour it into Molds....With the Gas in place and the other debris in the Building the Temp was over 2k..(that is thousand) Degrees in Temperature....I think that is more than hot enough to melt almost anything that Buildings are made of...or at least to make the Beams Bend and Become unsound to hold the wight of the Floors above them....Kinda funny how the Buildings Collapsed exactly where the planes hit.:hung Not above or Below......



You should Move on with Moulder and Sculley and live in the Unrealistic world of TV and all the Conspiracy Theorists...:cheers I am sure there are more X File Cronies out there for you to Collaborate with somewhere....:+hitting-
 
Last edited:

dirty

EOG Master
Yes We knew Atta was here and planning something..But Clinton's Cronies kept Able Danger from reporting this INFO to the FBI :+clueless


and to think our Government put Bombs in the WTC to blow it up is Lunacy...and did you ever think that the Buildings Falling may have Caused Structural Failure in other Surrounding Buildings :+clueless No that would be too much Commen since....I am in the Construction Industry and have built many building out of Steel Beams....so please save your Breathe.:cheers
 

dirty

EOG Master
And tell me Mr. Moulder....does the government have more Bombs planted in the Empire State Building, Sears Tower, the IBM Building in ATL, The CDC to Release dreadful disease's???? Tell me....are they on the Golden Gate Bridge?? Where exactly did our government plant these Bombs to Murder Innocent Americans???? You seem to know this as Fact! I want to know and if you knew before hand then you are more at Fault than anyone else Becuase the people in the know did nothing about it....:hung


What a Moron:+hitting-
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
Wrong, the max temp of kersosene burning is 1800 degrees, not hot enough to melt steel (need 2500 degrees for that). And even fema admits most of the kerosene was burned up in the initial fireballs. Also, the building fell in freefall, if the floors collapsed onto each other it would not have happened as fast. BTW, you are totally wrong about NORAD. Their main mission is the monitoring, detection, validation, and warning of attacks against north america by aircraft, missiles, and space vehicles. Get a clue.

dirty said:
LOL at the NORAD Comment......Those planes took off from within our Borders...NORAD has nothing to do with this...You Obviously know nothing that you talk about in this situation....Sure our Military could have shot the planes down after we knew they were HiJacked but who knew they would be flown into Buildings and the Pentagon


And you are a Friggin Lunatic if you think that a steel Building Built 75 years ago is built to the standards of today....And do you Know how they Make Steel beams....they heat it up and pour it into Molds....With the Gas in place and the other debris in the Building the Temp was over 2k..(that is thousand) Degrees in Temperature....I think that is more than hot enough to melt almost anything that Buildings are made of...or at least to make the Beams Bend and Become unsound to hold the wight of the Floors above them....Kinda funny how the Buildings Collapsed exactly where the planes hit.:hung Not above or Below......



You should Move on with Moulder and Sculley and live in the Unrealistic world of TV and all the Conspiracy Theorists...:cheers I am sure there are more X File Cronies out there for you to Collaborate with somewhere....:+hitting-
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
Whether it was NORAD's job at the time or not doesn't matter. If it wasn't NORAD it was the air force or someone else, and that someone else execued flawlessly the 64 times planes went off their flight paths in the year or so before 9/11. Yet they failed 4 times in a row on 9/11. Could that have something to do with the multiple war games involving hijacking and crashing planes that were going on the same day? Very likely. Vigilant guardian and vigilant warrior are 2 of those simulations that were going on.
 

dirty

EOG Master
National Geographic had a special on and the Experts they had, that were independant, said the Fires were well over 2k degrees....you can research some more on national goegraphic dot com if you need too

And their are other sites as well....But yall usually don't want Facts....Just what fits your Agenda
 
Top