Arlington Park

CHARLIEPEETE

EOG Dedicated
on the way to arlington on sat. for the million................any advice i have never been there?

parking etc???
thanks
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: arlington track

Re: arlington track

Arlington Park is one of the most beautiful racetracks in the country.

Clean and comfortable.

Think about attending a handicapping seminar hosted by either M. Scott McMannis or Joe Kristufek.

More info is available at www.arlingtonpark.com.

Enjoy Charlie.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Purses are horrible. They are around the levels they were in 1983 or 1984, when I first started going.

Check out race 8; an allowance for horses bred/foaled in Illinois, Louisiana or Arkansas. Racing secretary was really desperate to get some barns from the FG and Oaklawn.
 

blueline

EOG Master
vs the rest of the industry theyre bad but for IL this year I expected worse

that 8th race purse is down a couple of thousand from last year
the mdn claimer looks the same and the beaten claimers might be slightly higher
that 8th race condition is a first for me
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Happy opening day 2019
purses dont look horrible
will this be the final season?
If the sports wagering in Indiana gets passed (bill on governor’s desk), yes. The only thing that could save it IMO is for Illinois to pass it also and allow it at the tracks.
 

blueline

EOG Master
Churchill bought majority ownership in Rivers casino....they're preparing themselves to be in the gaming market without arlington being part of it
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Churchill bought majority ownership in Rivers casino....they're preparing themselves to be in the gaming market without arlington being part of it

How close is sports betting in coming to Illinois? I know Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh is one of the casinos with a sports wagering license.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
How close is sports betting in coming to Illinois? I know Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh is one of the casinos with a sports wagering license.
Illinois biggest problem is they want it, but only if they get a cut. Follow the money in Illinois definitely applies. I have a feeling nothing gets done until IN, MI, and Iowa get it.
 

Rockfish

EOG Veteran
Happy opening day 2019
purses dont look horrible
will this be the final season?

Arlington will never close as long as Dick Duchossois is alive. Of course he seems like he is going to live forever. When he dies then it is a whole different ballgame.
 

Rockfish

EOG Veteran
Duchossios is worth way more than 40 million. He has given more than 40 million to charity in the last 5 years.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Understood.

Back in the day, Mister D made his money in rail car manufacturing and automatic garage door openers.

He bought Arlington Park for "only" $20 million in the early 1980's.

I assumed the valuation of his net worth at age 97 is a product of surrendering his fortune to his children.
 

Rockfish

EOG Veteran
You could be right. Estate planning i think they call it. Two years ago the Duchossios family gave 100 million to the University of Chicago.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Illinois biggest problem is they want it, but only if they get a cut. Follow the money in Illinois definitely applies. I have a feeling nothing gets done until IN, MI, and Iowa get it.

True. I think Ohio is closer to getting it, but the politics in Illinois make getting anything done difficult.
 

Neveragain

EOG Dedicated
Filed under ‘Ones to watch’,

Aurora native, jockey Cristina Bonilla returns to her hometown after struggling to find success in New York’s Aqueduct this winter.

She’s been working with horses for a few years now all around the country after leaving her comfortable office job in Chicago.
Her journey has been challenging thus far to say the least.

She’s riding 3 long shots at Arlington later today starting in race 6, and I will be betting her to hit the board in my trifectas.
 

Neveragain

EOG Dedicated
She fell off the horse again in the 6th today.
That’s twice in 11 mounts this year.

Reminds me of sex with my Ex.

Hope she’s ok and escaped injuries.
But seriously maybe she should try something else.
 

blueline

EOG Master
looked at the website for the first time in years...jockey and trainer stats are from last year.....that is pathetic but not surprising
 

blueline

EOG Master
look what the cat dragged in Mickey Goldfine has one in.
He is something like 6 for his last 8 all with the same horse.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Not even an average of six horses per race.

Embarrassing.

Looking at the Equibase charts now.

The third choice won Sunday's third race at Arlington Park and paid $6.60 to win.

Yikes!
 

Valuist

EOG Master
A negotiating ploy. Where in the hell else in Illinois would you relocate the track to? That's comical. They want tax rate reductions like the city of Chicago, that's all

Like Blueline said, it wouldn't be relocated. Churchill would likely sell the land.
 
Like Blueline said, it wouldn't be relocated. Churchill would likely sell the land.

No way. Trust me on this one, it's just a strategic ploy. That location would make for very good casino revenue. If Churchill sells it some sharp buyer is going to resurrect the casino entitlement and Rivers is fucked. Best move is claim poverty, get tax relief, open some modest gaming that doesn't compete with Rivers and keep out someone who would really go after that market.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
No way. Trust me on this one, it's just a strategic ploy. That location would make for very good casino revenue. If Churchill sells it some sharp buyer is going to resurrect the casino entitlement and Rivers is fucked. Best move is claim poverty, get tax relief, open some modest gaming that doesn't compete with Rivers and keep out someone who would really go after that market.

There's only so much of the pie to slice up. Do you think people in the NW suburbs aren't gonna play slots or blackjack unless it's in Arlington Heights? Both Rivers and Elgin are within 10, maybe 15 miles at the most for Grand Victoria. And a new one will be coming to Waukegan. Same thing in city of Chicago. North siders already have Rivers. South siders have the Horseshoe in Hammond. Rivers is in a better location for casino revenue (than AP) just a shuttle from O'Hare.
 
There's only so much of the pie to slice up. Do you think people in the NW suburbs aren't gonna play slots or blackjack unless it's in Arlington Heights? Both Rivers and Elgin are within 10, maybe 15 miles at the most for Grand Victoria. And a new one will be coming to Waukegan. Same thing in city of Chicago. North siders already have Rivers. South siders have the Horseshoe in Hammond. Rivers is in a better location for casino revenue (than AP) just a shuttle from O'Hare.

Just trust me on this one, I have done a lot of work in the Chicago market as far as expansion goes. Yes the pie is getting cut up way too much. Yes the Governor is a fucking moron who got sold a stupid bill of goods by approving everything under the sun. Yes the city of Chicago is so desperate they will take any lifeline even if it makes little sense. But there is a lot of logic to everything and part of it will be some casinos not getting built. But this ain't one of them. Churchill is conflicted, even more so if they win Waukegan.

But at the end of the day this expansion came from wanting more money in certain hands, namely governments. This market they are in can support more revenue. Some will come from Rivers or Elgin or Aurora, but the pie gets bigger with Arlington due to location close to money. The joke is on those trying to add more supply on the south side. Lower incomes and too many casinos already. Now Gary is moving to a better spot why not put in two more casinos plus Hawthorne. Yeah so brilliant. Not going to happen. But North side is less supplied and has so much more money to tap into. If Churchill doesn't tap that, someone else will try to force their way in.
 
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