Bernie got hosed, 5Dimes still hasn't graded Iowa caucus results

#41
biden not doing well ATS. Meanwhile the dems have never beaten trump in anything.. Whatever they throw against the wall does not stick. I don't see how the dems can win in November.. True value is with trump.

I have Bloomberg to win vs the dems
Looks like I will be on trump in the nov election. The man is worth laying -500 every time he goes to the mound.
 
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#42
Certainly could see some of this playing out, but I really don't see Obama jumping in if Biden continues to look like he's drowning and needing a life raft to be thrown to him. Nor do I see much of the DNC royalty giving too much favor to Bloomberg, even if they certainly would feel more comfortable with him than a guy that doesn't even identify with their party in Congress.
I never said Obama will endorse Biden. His goal would be to stop Bernie from clinching the nomination so Obama's boy or girl can be nominated at the convention. These idiots have cornered themselves. Put all balls out on Biden and if he drops and it looks like he will, there is nobody that can beat Bernie. Beta and Kamela were supposed to be the hedges but they gone. So only Bloomberg's money. The good news is that will be enough to activate wokeness.
 
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#43
biden not doing well ATS. Meanwhile the dems have never beaten trump in anything.. Whatever they throw against the wall does not stick. I don't see how the dems can win in November.. True value is with trump.

I have Bloomberg to win vs the dems
Looks like I will be on trump in the nov election. The man is worth laying -500 every time he goes to the mound.
You really want to lay big wood on it? Whoever it is at the end it will largely be a yes or no on Trump. Trump loves that prospect because of course its all about him, but the numbers and the electoral map suggest that's a 50/50 proposition. If he gets too smug and goes pandering even deeper into what he thinks is his base, the fickle few that decide the election could abandon him, especially if the economy is just so so at the time. I think the DNC has set it up this way so they really don't have to worry about Bernie as much as everyone thinks. Bernie will have to think to himself do I want to win this election and get Trump out, or do I want to go down in flames fighting for what I believe is right? Bernie could do the latter, but my guess is if he's the nominee he will settle for just trying to win and get the DNC's money and support behind him.
 
#44
You really want to lay big wood on it? Whoever it is at the end it will largely be a yes or no on Trump. Trump loves that prospect because of course its all about him, but the numbers and the electoral map suggest that's a 50/50 proposition. If he gets too smug and goes pandering even deeper into what he thinks is his base, the fickle few that decide the election could abandon him, especially if the economy is just so so at the time. I think the DNC has set it up this way so they really don't have to worry about Bernie as much as everyone thinks. Bernie will have to think to himself do I want to win this election and get Trump out, or do I want to go down in flames fighting for what I believe is right? Bernie could do the latter, but my guess is if he's the nominee he will settle for just trying to win and get the DNC's money and support behind him.


last 100 years the every president got reelected on a good economy ..
 
#46
biden not doing well ATS. Meanwhile the dems have never beaten trump in anything.. Whatever they throw against the wall does not stick. I don't see how the dems can win in November.. True value is with trump.

I have Bloomberg to win vs the dems
Looks like I will be on trump in the nov election. The man is worth laying -500 every time he goes to the mound.

Unfortunately I cant say he wont win but....

He is no lock.

He won by the skin of his fake teeth last time while losing the popular vote.

He cant even afford to lose 1 in 200 people who voted for him last time and there are has to be a few people percentage wise he turned off with he behavior ( not the hardcore base, no)
And Dems will probably work themselves in a tizzy no matter who the nom is
 
#51
What the fuck. Why is that nincompoop Tom Steyer polling 2nd in South Carolina? If Biden drops out, all of those mobiles have to go somewhere. They ain't going to Buttboy. Bernie is not exactly an honorary brother. Steyer could win and that would be too she's perfect.
 
#52
What the fuck. Why is that nincompoop Tom Steyer polling 2nd in South Carolina? If Biden drops out, all of those mobiles have to go somewhere. They ain't going to Buttboy. Bernie is not exactly an honorary brother. Steyer could win and that would be too she's perfect.
Steyer is spending a fortune on ads there. Him and bloomy will siphon from biden.
 

John Kelly

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#53
Fishhead, you need to get out there and round up some people who can count.

Bad look for Iowa.

Will we see Iowa hold its "First In The Nation" status in 2024?

At least we can bet sports legally in the state now.

That's one feather in the state's cap.

And Prarie Meadows still offers a minimum show payout of $2.20.
 

TheGuesser

EOG Dedicated
#54
Bad look for Iowa.

Will we see Iowa hold its "First In The Nation" status in 2024?

At least we can bet sports legally in the state now.

That's one feather in the state's cap.

And Prarie Meadows still offers a minimum show payout of $2.20.
Iowa should be relegated to the 2nd division of primaries next time.
 

TheGuesser

EOG Dedicated
#56
Relegated, I like it.

Which state or states would you promote, Guesser?
They need some highly populated state like NY, Cali, Florida, Texas, Penn, Mass, etc.to be first. Enough with these irrelevant states like Iowa, NH setting the tone. And by all means, end the ridiculous caucus system, where you lose but still win and vice versa. Just straight voting.
 
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FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
#57
Bad look for Iowa.

Will we see Iowa hold its "First In The Nation" status in 2024?

At least we can bet sports legally in the state now.

That's one feather in the state's cap.

And Prarie Meadows still offers a minimum show payout of $2.20.
They can roll out a new marketing message - First in voting, last in results.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
#59
the dems have a lot of 5 inning pitchers. No stoppers.
a party for the people as they claim, they do an awful job of listening to the people. They are doing everything they claim the republicans do. As always, follow the money - and that’s why they hate Bernie. They don’t want to get cut off from the Wash DC perks.
 

TEXED

EOG Addicted
#62
These campaigns have basically all year to campaign for the first contest. They should have all 4 of these states, and even 1 or 2 more on the first day. If you had Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada and maybe 1 or 2 more all going on Tuesday that would make sense. You have different parts of the country plus no state is so big that they would dominate the attention, Definitely get rid of the caucuses, and go strictly Primaries.
 
#63
Tulsi would be the she's perfect compromise nommy at a wokered convention.




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#64
I'm going to add to this bitch. Still 200-1 at Bookmaker. Great thing is her odds will remain high until wokered. Can keep pounding her. If she wins, it will happen suddenly.
 
#66
I'm going to add to this bitch. Still 200-1 at Bookmaker. Great thing is her odds will remain high until wokered. Can keep pounding her. If she wins, it will happen suddenly.
Dont waste your money, i like her too but the dnc and media is conspiring against her. She has ZEEEEro chance.
 
#69
Tulsi would be the she's perfect compromise nommy at a wokered convention.




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That uniform pic is nice and all, but Mayor Pete served too. Imagine if they started showing that knowing he's gay, way too much controversy to follow.
 
#70
They need some highly populated state like NY, Cali, Florida, Texas, Penn, Mass, etc.to be first. Enough with these irrelevant states like Iowa, NH setting the tone. And by all means, end the ridiculous caucus system, where you lose but still win and vice versa. Just straight voting.
The media would love this. If they did that then just the richest candidate, or the one with the biggest war chest, would win. But that's the problem, way too much nonsense spending and the process goes on far too long. Imagine if it was NY or California, there would be political ads from the day after the inauguration and billions would be spent for nearly 4 years.

I'd argue the best way to do it is to have 4 states as the first still, but have them all the same "opening day" and switch them up and make them relevant for the parties. Iowa doesn't mean shit for the Dems, their candidate won't win the state in the next 100 years. Trying to win over people whose vote in November is meaningless is not optimal. Imagine there are thousands of new fans of the nominee in Iowa thanks to all the time and exposure there and yet that will mean zilch in the future.

Pick 4 smaller swing states where having the candidates around for a year before the primaries start actually gets them name recognition and might help win the votes in November.
 
#71
Howid it would play:

Bernie and Bloomberg top two delegate winners but neither to the Magic Johnson #. Multiple ballots and neither can get there. Tensions are high between the Bernie and Bloomberg camps and AOC is about to go full stop Carrie. That's when Tulsi's people come in and make some dirty deals. Maybe she agrees to have a woke running mate to satisfy AOC and agrees to run a moderate campaign to satisfy the Bloomberg's. To avoid the convention blowing up 1968 style, Tulsi becomes the nominee.

Hillary would be too decisive. John Kerry and Al Gore are hasbeens. Michelle (Michael) Obama would be another possibility. Kamela a chip and a chair because she's Obama's crush. So Tulsi would still be the longest of longshots but there's a chance if we go wokered.
 
#72
Also, if Tulsi doesn't shut it down after Super Tuesday, she may start gaining momentum as Democrat realize what a shit field they have.
 
#73
Howid it would play:

Bernie and Bloomberg top two delegate winners but neither to the Magic Johnson #. Multiple ballots and neither can get there. Tensions are high between the Bernie and Bloomberg camps and AOC is about to go full stop Carrie. That's when Tulsi's people come in and make some dirty deals. Maybe she agrees to have a woke running mate to satisfy AOC and agrees to run a moderate campaign to satisfy the Bloomberg's. To avoid the convention blowing up 1968 style, Tulsi becomes the nominee.

Hillary would be too decisive. John Kerry and Al Gore are hasbeens. Michelle (Michael) Obama would be another possibility. Kamela a chip and a chair because she's Obama's crush. So Tulsi would still be the longest of longshots but there's a chance if we go wokered.
Come on AOC has no power in the party. She's just youthful noise which no one with power listens to.
 
#74
The DNC better not have such a dismissive impression. She could blow up that convention if she wanted. She wasn't there in 2016 so all that anger at Hillary couldn't get organized. This time is different. They better be very careful how they treat Bernie.
 
#77
Trump said that AOC will run against Schumer for the senate and win easily, same thing will happen to Nadler, all those fat, corrupt dems will be gone in 4-6 years. It'll be all socialists.

Up here in MN there was a dem woman who had been here for 30 years, omar pushed her out easily, then ran for the house.
 
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