Best O-line coach ever
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FairWarning
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Yeah, saw that the other day. Great coach.
Bugel was 80.
Best o-line coach ever?
Birdie knew a tightly-defined description was necessary.
Joe Bugel had an embarassingly-low (.300) winning percentage as an NFL head coach of the Arizona Cardinals (1990-93) and Oakland Raiders (1997).
Best o-line coach ever?
Birdie knew a tightly-defined description was necessary.
Joe Bugel had an embarassingly-low (.300) winning percentage as an NFL head coach of the Arizona Cardinals (1990-93) and Oakland Raiders (1997).
So many NFL coordinators flop as NFL head coaches.
Buddy Ryan was one of the greatest defensive minds in NFL history.
However, his NFL head coaching record with the Eagles and Cardinals was 55-55-1.
Buddy Ryan was one of the greatest defensive minds in NFL history.
However, his NFL head coaching record with the Eagles and Cardinals was 55-55-1.
And yet, it's hard/impossible to become an NFL head coach without first serving as a coordinator.
Searching for some NFL head coaches without the traditional path.
Didn't John Harbaugh take an unusual route to the top job in Baltimore?
Searching for some NFL head coaches without the traditional path.
Didn't John Harbaugh take an unusual route to the top job in Baltimore?
John Harbaugh was best known as a special teams coach and later became a defensive backs coach.
His lifetime head coaching record with the Ravens is impressive.
A regular-season record of 118-74 and a postseason record of 10-7 and of course, a Super Bowl title at the end of the 2012 season.
His lifetime head coaching record with the Ravens is impressive.
A regular-season record of 118-74 and a postseason record of 10-7 and of course, a Super Bowl title at the end of the 2012 season.
On the downside, John Harbaugh's teams are 1-3 in the postseason since the Super Bowl title.
TheGuesser
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Andy Reid was never an NFL Co-ordinator. Worked out pretty good and he's the best Coach of Coaches since Walsh.
TheGuesser
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Best OL coach was the dude at Denver that churned out 1000 yard rushers ever year. Can't think of his name, but he was "dirty" in that he coached his OL to go for the knees. Teams feared playing them. Rules have changed since him.
I forgot about Andy Reid's background.
He was a quarterbacks coach for the Packers before the Eagles hired him in 1999.
Good call, Guesser.
Reid's won-loss numbers as an NFL head coach: 207-128-1 in the regular season and 15-14 in the postseason.
Two words to describe Reid: offensive-minded and detail-oriented.
How funny is this picture of a young Andy Reid in a Punt, Pass and Kick competition:
FairWarning
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He was the coach in the famed Fog Bowl for Philly.
Buddy Ryan teams were 0-3 in the postseason.
Not surprisingly, all three games went UNDER the total.
Final scores were 20-12, 21-7 and 20-6.
Foresthill
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In the words of Lee Corso to Kirk Herbstriet, "Not so fast my friend." I disagree.
Jim Hanifan is the greatest offensive line coach of all time.
Consider:
Hanifan coached -- #1 The St. Louis Cardinals offensive line from 1973-1978. The 1975 offensive line set the then NFL record for fewest sacks allowed with 8 (one of those "sacks" was to place kicker Jim Bakken), and led the NFL with fewest sacks allowed for 5 straight years in that span 1974-1978 -- all with immobile QB Jim Hart playing. Remember that during this time period the rules for offensive holding were much stricter, so given the rules of the day, that total was astounding. They could also run block with the best of them. During the 1975 and 1976 seasons running backs Terry Metcalf and Jim Otis combined to average 168 yds per game.
#2 The Washington Redskins offensive line from 1990-1996. The 1991 team won the Super Bowl
#3 The St. Louis Rams offensive line from 1997-2003. The 1999 team won the Super Bowl
Hanifan coached up 3 separate, superior offensive lines for 3 different franchises. Bugel only coached up one.
Jim Hanifan is the greatest offensive line coach of all time.
Consider:
Hanifan coached -- #1 The St. Louis Cardinals offensive line from 1973-1978. The 1975 offensive line set the then NFL record for fewest sacks allowed with 8 (one of those "sacks" was to place kicker Jim Bakken), and led the NFL with fewest sacks allowed for 5 straight years in that span 1974-1978 -- all with immobile QB Jim Hart playing. Remember that during this time period the rules for offensive holding were much stricter, so given the rules of the day, that total was astounding. They could also run block with the best of them. During the 1975 and 1976 seasons running backs Terry Metcalf and Jim Otis combined to average 168 yds per game.
#2 The Washington Redskins offensive line from 1990-1996. The 1991 team won the Super Bowl
#3 The St. Louis Rams offensive line from 1997-2003. The 1999 team won the Super Bowl
Hanifan coached up 3 separate, superior offensive lines for 3 different franchises. Bugel only coached up one.
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railbird
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good answer, and you are probably right. how about defensive line coach? Torgy Torgeson coached the Fearsome Foursome Deacon Jones, Rosey Grier, Lamar Lundy, Merline Olesn.. Then coached Fred Dryer in 79 rams superbowl, and was the Redskins defenisve line coach in all 5 of their superbowl appearances including their 3 victorys. coaching Dexter Manely, Charles Mann, Dave Butz, Diron Talbert.
Foresthill
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Thanks. I'm not as up on NFL d-line coaches, but I like your choice of Torgy Torgeson. If someone else has a bettor nominee, I'd like to see the post.
Foresthill
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Jim Hanifan was born in Compton, CA, and grew up in Covina, CA. He currently is retired and living in metro St. Louis, MO. He attended the University of California where he was an All-American tight end and led the nation in receiving yards in 1954.
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Viejo Dinosaur
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Bright spot was that he never lost to the Cowboys when he was the Eagle head coach....
FairWarning
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Hanifan was another big-hype name who failed as a HC.