Better Call Saul

Re: Better Call Saul

I like the show and have always enjoyed Michael Mckean as an actor until BCS. I absolutely hate the character they've created for him and feel it kind of drags down what the show could be. He's such a wimpy character. Breaking Bad was always edgy and razor sharp but in my opinion the storyline of Sauls brother sort of softens up the show. I have not started watching season 3 yet as I will wait for it to conclude so I can binge watch.
 

Arnold Zwiffel

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I'm current with Season 3. You'll enjoy Season 3 as it does pick up. Episode 4, the current one, is especially good.

Interesting point point you make Heisenberg about Michael Mckean's character being so wimpy. But I do enjoy the byplay between his lawyer's intellect versus Jimmy's street smarts in their brother rivalry.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
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The first few episodes of the season were slow, but adding Gus to the cast will only help. The most recent episode was an improvement, IMO. More Gus, less Chuck.

OTOH, last night's Fargo was a disappointment.
 

Arnold Zwiffel

EOG Enthusiast
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I remember Jonathan Banks playing a guy with multiple personalties on an episode of Hill Street Blues. He's a great actor.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
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I thought last night's episode was decent. And we saw another cameo (Lydia).
A few too many cameos, it's not even a story, just 1 tease after another, oohh there's gus, there's lydia, there's hector, everyone is sneaky, everyone's stabbing each other in the back, I'm losing interest.
 

Hangover

EOG Dedicated
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I will watch till the end because so heavily invested since BB...but they need to focus more on Mike's storyline. The Kim and brothers story is too repetitive. Also major flaw of show is we already know where it is headed if saw most of Breaking Bad... so very easy to lose interest...
 

raycabino

Long Live Wilson!
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I will watch till the end because so heavily invested since BB...but they need to focus more on Mike's storyline. The Kim and brothers story is too repetitive. Also major flaw of show is we already know where it is headed if saw most of Breaking Bad... so very easy to lose interest...

They can focus on other things going on with Saul in the timeline of the BB series. No problem IMO.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
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I don't even remember his small role in Airplane. I do remember Eddie Murphy throwing him into a buffet table in Beverly Hills Cop however

Speaking of Airplane my cousin was married to Julie Haggerty. She played the cute floozy stewardess.

With that said, Heisenberg you are one of the good guys!
 
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I was planning on waiting until this season ended before I started to watch. I broke down and I'm all caught up and season 3 is my favorite by far. So happy they brought Gus back. The pool scene with Don Eladio is my favorite scene so far this season. It takes it back to the breaking bad feel and flavor more than any moment first 3 seasons. I still can't stand the Michael Mckean character and so wish they'd just kill him off.
 

Hangover

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Great season so far....still waiting for some sort of backstory or glimpse into why Gus does what he does. Guy is making a ton of money but does not appear to spend it on anything....he drives a beater and has no women. I know its smart to fly under the radar if earning money illegally but he is almost flying too low under the radar...what is his money going to? Why even get involved with drug trafficking if he does not need/want the big money?
 
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Great season so far....still waiting for some sort of backstory or glimpse into why Gus does what he does. Guy is making a ton of money but does not appear to spend it on anything....he drives a beater and has no women. I know its smart to fly under the radar if earning money illegally but he is almost flying too low under the radar...what is his money going to? Why even get involved with drug trafficking if he does not need/want the big money?

They pretty much showed in Breaking Bad that Gus is gay. His boyfriend was shot by Hector Salamanca at Don Eladios pool and that's why Gus always had it out for him.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
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They pretty much showed in Breaking Bad that Gus is gay. His boyfriend was shot by Hector Salamanca at Don Eladios pool and that's why Gus always had it out for him.
Nahh, them prissy south american gangsters all look gay. I thought that was his brother anyway?
 

2W2P2S

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The hate for the Michael McKean character is exactly what the writers/producer wanted. It's proof he's doing an excellent job portraying his role.
 
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Nahh, them prissy south american gangsters all look gay. I thought that was his brother anyway?

The chicken brothers was a figure of speech. That was his gay lover. They made various subtle references to it throughout the show.
 
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The hate for the Michael McKean character is exactly what the writers/producer wanted. It's proof he's doing an excellent job portraying his role.

There's characters that people hate but find entertaining and interesting. The Chuck character is neither in my opinion.
 
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Spoiler alert: If you haven't watched the series finale you probably don't want to continue reading.

Was curious of what some of you thought how the season ended? First off I don't understand why Mike (the best character on the show in my opinion) didn't appear in this episode. Thought it was an interesting episode concerning personal choices and the implications that come from them. I was happy to see Chucks character get killed off. What am I missing with Kim's accident? Did she cause the accident on purpose because the grind and stress of her career was catching up to her and she just wanted a way out? Hoping some of you watched and would love to hear any input regarding the finale and entire season as a whole.
 

Valuist

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It APPEARS that Chuck is dead, although on Talking Saul, which was right after the episode, the lead writer hinted we hadn't seen the last of Michael McKean. I interpreted that as Chuck IS dead, but may re-appear in flashback scenes next season.
 

Brayden11

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Spoiler alert: If you haven't watched the series finale you probably don't want to continue reading.

Was curious of what some of you thought how the season ended? First off I don't understand why Mike (the best character on the show in my opinion) didn't appear in this episode. Thought it was an interesting episode concerning personal choices and the implications that come from them. I was happy to see Chucks character get killed off. What am I missing with Kim's accident? Did she cause the accident on purpose because the grind and stress of her career was catching up to her and she just wanted a way out? Hoping some of you watched and would love to hear any input regarding the finale and entire season as a whole.


I think she just fell asleep behind the wheel from being overworked/overtired.
 
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I think she just fell asleep behind the wheel from being overworked/overtired.

Thats part of the genius of Vince Gilligan. He is very good at putting key elements (especially in Breaking Bad) that are open to speculation and interpretation which always leads to interesting discussion amongst viewers.
 
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It APPEARS that Chuck is dead, although on Talking Saul, which was right after the episode, the lead writer hinted we hadn't seen the last of Michael McKean. I interpreted that as Chuck IS dead, but may re-appear in flashback scenes next season.

i would guess that you are right on the flashback scenes. Bloodline kind of did the same thing with Danny Rayburn interacting with John.
 

Hangover

EOG Dedicated
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Probably hospital deathbed stuff...i am guessing that is where he meets the real Gus and they begin their relationship...should be same hospital Salamanca is taken to..
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
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So this is the end of the 3rd season of "better call saul", but we've yet to see saul, just jimmy, jimmy, jimmy. I dont think chuck will die, he cant, if he got 3 million from the law firm, with 2 more installments to come, then Jimmy would get the money if he dies(probably), and then jimmy wouldn't need to be a money grubber. Chuck will prob be in a nursing home forever. I like Kim but i dont really care what happens to her either, this season lost me.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
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Probably hospital deathbed stuff...i am guessing that is where he meets the real Gus and they begin their relationship...should be same hospital Salamanca is taken to..
One thing you guys need to keep in mind, is that there is no "plan", the writers haven't decided what to do,it's not like there's a story but we'll have to wait to find out, anything is possible.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
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One thing you guys need to keep in mind, is that there is no "plan", the writers haven't decided what to do,it's not like there's a story but we'll have to wait to find out, anything is possible.

I think they better put all their cards on the table for season 4. The TV ratings have slipped considerably from season 1, so there's no guarantee there will be a 5th season.
 

Arnold Zwiffel

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Here are my takes. And, yes, I think it's an outstanding show:

I think Chuck definitely is dead. The money meant nothing to him. He was overcome by despair due to the firm kicking him out, losing his pride when his brother showed him up at the court hearing and most of all from his mental illness. It was too much for him.

Interesting observation Heisenberg about Gus being gay. You could be right. I never thought about that. Or he could just be a-sexual. His ego/motivations/desires just could be driven by fooling the public and a desire for revenge agaisnt Hector and the Cartel.

Kim was too overworked and burdened. That's why she got in a car crash. I don't find her very interesting. It's my guess she will leave law and get into a new phase of her life - without Jimmy.

I do think, Mr. Merlin, the show's writers do have a plan. I'm hoping - and expecting - the show to be renewed for a fourth season.

Breaking Bad was an all-time TV great. But Better Call Saul definitely stands on its own. Excellent show!
 

Hangover

EOG Dedicated
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Good points....i think Gus is def a-sexual...amassing wealth by illegal means gets him off. There is speculation of foreshadowing that Kim becomes a hardcore addict from the pain pill scene. Great show...
 
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Here are my takes. And, yes, I think it's an outstanding show:

I think Chuck definitely is dead. The money meant nothing to him. He was overcome by despair due to the firm kicking him out, losing his pride when his brother showed him up at the court hearing and most of all from his mental illness. It was too much for him.

Interesting observation Heisenberg about Gus being gay. You could be right. I never thought about that. Or he could just be a-sexual. His ego/motivations/desires just could be driven by fooling the public and a desire for revenge agaisnt Hector and the Cartel.

Kim was too overworked and burdened. That's why she got in a car crash. I don't find her very interesting. It's my guess she will leave law and get into a new phase of her life - without Jimmy.

I do think, Mr. Merlin, the show's writers do have a plan. I'm hoping - and expecting - the show to be renewed for a fourth season.

Breaking Bad was an all-time TV great. But Better Call Saul definitely stands on its own. Excellent show!

During Breakung Bad I suspected Gus was gay for how hard he took it when Hector killed his partner at the pool. Gus never shows emotion over anybody or anything but he was devastated. Twice now Hector made gay innuendos about Gus. What confirmed it for me was I heard Vince Gillian say on a podcast that Gus was indeed gay and his lover was who Hector killed. Like I said earlier it's part of what makes Gilligan so great. He doesn't force feed anything and likes to leave bits and pieces out there for his viewers to discuss like we are doing now. I could talk for hours about anything BB related-to me that show was a brilliant masterpiece on so many levels-acting-writing-music-and the cinematography was so awesome with such unique and beautiful shots.
 
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