Big Ten hoops or Big 12 hoops?

John Kelly

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So much for the ACC leading the charge in college basketball this season.

Which conference do you prefer?

The Big 12 currently boasts three teams (#1 Kansas, #3 Baylor and #7 West Virginia) among Ken Pomeroy's top seven.

The Big Ten has no teams rated in Pomeroy's top eight but five teams (#9 Michigan State, #10 Maryland, #12 Ohio State, #13 Iowa and #16 Penn State) listed among Pomeroy's top 16.

Only three ACC teams (#2 Duke, #8 Louisville and #18 Florida State) are among Pomeroy's top 50 teams in the country.
 
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Eight of the top 25 teams on Pomeroy's defensive scale (points allowed per 100 possessions against the average D-1 defense) hail from the Big Ten.
 
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Not surprisingly, the two worst defenses in the Big Ten -- Nebraska and Northwestern -- reside in the basement of the Big Ten standings.

Nebraska is 2-9 and Northwestern is 1-10.

And Northwestern's only conference win came against Nebraska.
 
FISHHEAD

FISHHEAD

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John Kelly said:
So much for the ACC leading the charge in college basketball this season.



The Big Ten has no teams rated in Pomeroy's top eight but five teams (#9 Michigan State, #10 Maryland, #12 Ohio State, #13 Iowa and #16 Penn State) listed among Pomeroy's top 16
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................and RUTGERS a mere one game out of first place in the always rugged BIG TEN.
 
John Kelly

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Pomeroy projects Rutgers to finish the season 20-11 overall and 11-9 in conference play.

Should be good enough for a 7-seed or 8-seed.
 
TobyTyler

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Assuming they make it in, Rutgers/Purdue 1st round exit. I get the defense but lately these teams that go through 7 min scoring droughts always seem to lose in tournament to teams like Creighton, Texas Tech, st Marys, byu, Houston, etc.
Penn State and Ohio St will win a couple games
 
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Valuist

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Big Ten has TWELVE teams in Pomeroy top 41.

Haven't seen the RPI but usually most in top 40 get into tourney. Some of the lower Big Ten teams won't get in due to too many losses but likely better than other bubble teams.
 
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Scooper

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Look for the SEC (uk, LSU, arky, Bama specifically) to make the bigger splash in the tourney than both of the “bigs”
 
SpottedCow

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The biggest advantage for the big 10 right now is that almost every team is quad 1 in the net rankings. So basically every game is either a quad 1 win or loss.. They should get 10 teams into the tourney this year.
 
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ComptrBob

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Valuist said:
Big Ten has TWELVE teams in Pomeroy top 41.

Haven't seen the RPI but usually most in top 40 get into tourney. Some of the lower Big Ten teams won't get in due to too many losses but likely better than other bubble teams.
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RPI isn't used anymore, it was officially replaced as a "sorting tool" by the NET rankings which are somewhat more "refined" than RPI.

BTW, Joe Lunardi of ESPN , as of Jan 31, has 12 Big Ten teams making the NCAA tournament (with only Purdue and Minnesota on the bubble) as opposed to 5 for the Big 12, SEC, Pac 12, and Big East with 4 from the ACC.
 
FISHHEAD

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ComptrBob said:
RPI isn't used anymore, it was officially replaced as a "sorting tool" by the NET rankings which are somewhat more "refined" than RPI.

BTW, Joe Lunardi of ESPN , as of Jan 31, has 12 Big Ten teams making the NCAA tournament as opposed to 5 for the Big 12, SEC, Pac 12,, and Big East with 4 from the ACC.
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Holy Smokes!
 
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Another tidbit, Sagarin has 13 Big Ten teams in the Top 33 strength of schedule (SOS) with Rutgers as #47. SEC has 2 teams (Fla, Ala) in Top 33 SOS.
 
TobyTyler

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Scooper said:
Look for the SEC (uk, LSU, arky, Bama specifically) to make the bigger splash in the tourney than both of the “bigs”
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I don't know if Bama gets there...they are fun to watch and prob nightmare to prepare for, but losing bodies every weeek it seems
 
John Kelly

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The Big East earned 11 bids from a 16-team league in 2011.

That's the record the Big Ten is targeting.

Only Nebraska and Northwestern would be watching the tournament from home.

A lot of good teams in the Big Ten, not a lot of great teams.
 
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Remember 1985?

Three teams from the Big East arrived at the Final Four in Lexington, Kentucky.

Villanova beat Georgetown in the title game after Georgetown defeated St. John's two days earlier.
 
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The ACC is a hot mess this season after having three teams (Virginia, Duke and North Carolina) earn #1 seeds last season.
 
SpottedCow

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This is somewhat stunning. Assistant coach nearly killed by drunk driver preseason, unfavorable transfer ruling against a player, top scorer cites racism and leaves program, coach unfairly fired for racism claim, team reels off 7 straight to take the top spot in arguably toughest NCAAB conference in 2019/20. Most under-reported success story of the year.

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Love Wisconsin's backcourt of Trice and Pritzl.

Both are gritty.

Wisconsin finished the season with a 15-1 record at Kohl Center.

The only home loss came against Illinois.
 
Brayden11

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SpottedCow said:
This is somewhat stunning. Assistant coach nearly killed by drunk driver preseason, unfavorable transfer ruling against a player, top scorer cites racism and leaves program, coach unfairly fired for racism claim, team reels off 7 straight to take the top spot in arguably toughest NCAAB conference in 2019/20. Most under-reported success story of the year.





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Underrated yet again this year, what's new? Potter is a guy to watch. Team came together after the fiasco with Kobe King transfer...good riddance.
 
TobyTyler

TobyTyler

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i didn't see it but heard Michigan St played out of their minds in that second half vs PSU

prob stay away from that conference tournament, those are going to be some wars
 
Sportsrmylife

Sportsrmylife

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Greg gard big ten coach of the yr.

Wow.

They are playong their peak right now. There is little more room for this team to keep climbing.
 
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