Buck Gianni Exposed Again

Heim

EOG Master
Geez the Euro step from the free throw line to the hoop pretty effective for 3.5 quarters but in crunch
time this guy is just not ready. Key turnovers, missing open men, forcing shots (for Christ sakes it was the Rockets on defense).

He's body beautiful now, but still a good 2 years away from developing anything awe inspiring on offense. Good luck
to the Warriors or Knicks that are going to empty the bank on this guy. Top ten player for sure, stats marvelous, ring guy.....
no way not yet.
 

Heim

EOG Master
He's very indecisive on offense late because he doesn't have much in his arsenal. You watch
guys like Kyrie or Kawhi late they can beat you so many ways and they have a pretty good idea
how they're going to do it. You watch Gianni and he has no plan. Still a lot of time for him but
definitely not elite yet.
 

kane

EOG master
Giannis's problem is he doesn't have a reliable jumper yet, and credit Houston's D last night, they did a good job on him at the end
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
I love long players so I've always had a place in my heart for Giannis.

I see him as a longer version of Scottie Pippen.

And Pippen is one of my all-time favorites.

Can't disagree with any of HEIM's criticisms.

After all, HEIM is showing profits of more than 70 units in EOG's Best Bet thread.

Not the guy whose opinions you want to challenge.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Giannis's problem is he doesn't have a reliable jumper yet, and credit Houston's D last night, they did a good job on him at the end

True.

Kawhi has developed a trusted jumper in a few short years.

So did Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing back in the day.

Dwight Howard, not so much.
 

pro analyser

EOG Dedicated
Geez the Euro step from the free throw line to the hoop pretty effective for 3.5 quarters but in crunch
time this guy is just not ready. Key turnovers, missing open men, forcing shots (for Christ sakes it was the Rockets on defense).

He's body beautiful now, but still a good 2 years away from developing anything awe inspiring on offense. Good luck
to the Warriors or Knicks that are going to empty the bank on this guy. Top ten player for sure, stats marvelous, ring guy.....
no way not yet.
Like him going to Dallas or clippers. With Dallas he can create the first euro big 3 with all under 25. Clippers if they don't win it 2nd choice, Balmer deep pockets or Cuban
 

kane

EOG master
I'm on record as saying if he leaves Milwaukee he'll be taking his talent to South Beach
 

Heim

EOG Master
I love long players so I've always had a place in my heart for Giannis.

I see him as a longer version of Scottie Pippen.

And Pippen is one of my all-time favorites.

Can't disagree with any of HEIM's criticisms.

After all, HEIM is showing profits of more than 70 units in EOG's Best Bet thread.

Not the guy whose opinions you want to challenge.



Pippen had a very well developed offensive game leaving Central Ark if you ever saw him in college. Miles
ahead of Gianni at the same age.
 

Heim

EOG Master
He needs to control his temper.....stupid head butt yesterday will result in suspension hopefully not into GM1 of playoff.
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
True.

Kawhi has developed a trusted jumper in a few short years.

So did Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing back in the day.

Dwight Howard, not so much.
Ewing's baseline jumper was his trademark in the post and only got better through and after his time at Georgetown.

Hakeem Olajuwon also mastered it and had grest range for a center as well.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Ewing's baseline jumper was his trademark in the post and only got better through and after his time at Georgetown.

Hakeem Olajuwon also mastered it and had grest range for a center as well.

Hakeem Olajuwon and the Dream Shake, loved it.

One of the game's greats.

I saw many games where Olajuwon made Patrick Ewing and David Robinson look soft and silly.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Pippen had a very well developed offensive game leaving Central Ark if you ever saw him in college. Miles
ahead of Gianni at the same age.

Of course, Pippen was 23 during his rookie season with the Bulls while Giannis entered the NBA at age 18.

Pippen's offensive game also benefited from the presence of Michael Jordan.

Not only could Pippen learn from the game's best player but Jordan would always draw the opponent's best perimeter defender.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
I'm on record as saying if he leaves Milwaukee he'll be taking his talent to South Beach

I could see him going to Frisco to play for a Warriors team that will be back to the team they were the past handful of years starting next season and definitely by 2021-22

I could also see him doing what another Milwaukee star player did almost 50 years ago
 

kane

EOG master
He needs to control his temper.....stupid head butt yesterday will result in suspension hopefully not into GM1 of playoff.

When I saw him do that, it reminded me of the head butt John Starks gave to Reggie Miller in the playoffs one year
 

kane

EOG master
I could see him going to Frisco to play for a Warriors team that will be back to the team they were the past handful of years starting next season and definitely by 2021-22

I could also see him doing what another Milwaukee star player did almost 50 years ago

Just speculation on my part, but I don't see Giannis pulling a Durant by going to an already loaded team, I think he would want to go somewhere to be "the man" on that team
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Just speculation on my part, but I don't see Giannis pulling a Durant by going to an already loaded team, I think he would want to go somewhere to be "the man" on that team

Just like Mike Trout, Giannis can never be considered among the GOAT if he never comes close to winning a Title. Trout can hit 900 HRS, Have a career WAR of 900, win the MVP ever year for the rest of his career and if he only plays 3 playoff games in 2014 he will never go down as the GOAT in MLB
 
Giannis is never going to be the GOAT, but that's ok. He's an athletic freak, but the mindset isn't there. He wants to win, who doesn't, but I can't see him leading the team the way LBJ or MJ did, let alone having the drive to win that Kobe had.
 

kane

EOG master
Just like Mike Trout, Giannis can never be considered among the GOAT if he never comes close to winning a Title. Trout can hit 900 HRS, Have a career WAR of 900, win the MVP ever year for the rest of his career and if he only plays 3 playoff games in 2014 he will never go down as the GOAT in MLB

Barring major injuries, Trout will go down as one of the greats to ever play the game, not winning a WS won't change that fact. I can give you the names of some of the all time greats who never won a WS
 

kane

EOG master
It doesn't make any difference, but Giannis is suspended for their next game, good chance he would have sat anyway
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
Boston would not be a good first round draw against Philly. They do have an impressive second unit. Kormaz and Neto both impressed me tonight, but Boucher for Toronto was all over the place in the 2nd half and took matters into his own hands in the 4th. If they are locked into 6th, the first round series vs the Celtics won't go beyond 5 games.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Geez the Euro step from the free throw line to the hoop pretty effective for 3.5 quarters but in crunch
time this guy is just not ready. Key turnovers, missing open men, forcing shots (for Christ sakes it was the Rockets on defense).

He's body beautiful now, but still a good 2 years away from developing anything awe inspiring on offense. Good luck
to the Warriors or Knicks that are going to empty the bank on this guy. Top ten player for sure, stats marvelous, ring guy.....
no way not yet.


Giannis was 4-for-12 from the free-throw line tonight in an 11-piont loss to the underdog Heat.
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
If he can't stay out of foul trouble, Milwaukee just doesn't have the weapons to compete. I'm not going to rely on a subpar Middleton who finally decided to show up last night. Bledsoe hurt too, so your offense can't just come from Matthews and Lopez.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Despite losing Game 1, the Bucks are still solidly favored (-180 or thereabouts) to defeat Miami in the Best-of-7 series.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Miami has copied Toronto's blueprint how to beat them.....evident last night. Big surge late on Miami series price from +345
to +315
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Miami has copied Toronto's blueprint how to beat them.....evident last night. Big surge late on Miami series price from +345
to +315


Plenty of money for Miami on the money line in Game 1 too.

I saw Milwaukee as high as -250 early in the betting cycle and as low as -200 near tipoff.

If you laid the price on Milwaukee in Game 1, you were on a dead side.
 
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