Casinos reopening: Are you back to casinos or playing from home?

James_her0

EOG Member
Hey, I’m a big fan of casinos, and I’m very happy that they started opening in Pennsylvania, but I wonder if online casinos are still a better option since the pandemic is far from being under control.

I found out that land-based casinos have online versions as well. Have you played already at any pa online casino? Is the experience similar or close to playing at physical casinos? Thanks!!
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
It looks like I won't be back to Atlantic City anytime soon. Seems like all table games but poker has resumed. A limited amount of rooms are open in Vegas and they are operating 6 and 7 handed, but not one venue has resumed operations here. Not rushing back to play craps and lose $300 in 10 minutes. I don't see poker reopening until early to mid August at the minimum.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Need to quit funding my Twin Spires account.

The WNBA returns Saturday, July 25.

The NBA is back on Friday, July 31.
 
Need to quit funding my Twin Spires account.

The WNBA returns Saturday, July 25.

The NBA is back on Friday, July 31.

Yeah JK, at the very least stop supporting those asswipes at Churchill Downs. Clowns working harder to make sure you don't get to go to Arlington ever again.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Hey, I’m a big fan of casinos, and I’m very happy that they started opening in Pennsylvania, but I wonder if online casinos are still a better option since the pandemic is far from being under control.

I found out that land-based casinos have online versions as well. Have you played already at any pa online casino? Is the experience similar or close to playing at physical casinos? Thanks!!

Has Presque Isle re-opened yet? Last I heard, they hadn't. Rivers in Pittsburgh opened about a month ago and was already shut down a second time for cleaning after several employees tested positive
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Yeah JK, at the very least stop supporting those asswipes at Churchill Downs. Clowns working harder to make sure you don't get to go to Arlington ever again.


I hear you.

But I need convenient access to the huge Pick 4, Pick 5 and Pick 6 pools.
 

James_her0

EOG Member
It sounds like online casinos are the best option right now, poker is one of my preferred games and the restrictions are still very confusing. Thanks for the insights o/.
 
Has Presque Isle re-opened yet? Last I heard, they hadn't. Rivers in Pittsburgh opened about a month ago and was already shut down a second time for cleaning after several employees tested positive

Presque Isle Casino opened end of June along with most casinos in PA. Rivers Pittsburgh was closed just a week. It was sort of a negotiated deal as they weren't facing regulatory shutdown, just a city mandate, and they could have in theory pressed to stay open. They decided instead to use the time to change a few things and reopen in a week as they had expected.
 

blueline

EOG Master
Bleak outlook


Sands Chief Operating Officer Rob Goldstein told analysts on a conference call with investors Wednesday that the outlook for the company’s venerable meetings and conventions business is bleak for the rest of the year.


“Of all (our markets, Las Vegas, Macao and Singapore), I view Las Vegas least favorably,” Goldstein said. “Las Vegas, especially our company but really the whole city, is dependent on group, convention and banquet segments’ return. I see nothing that indicates that 2020 will return at all.”


The company is dependent on conventions driving food and beverage, hotel rooms, entertainment and casino revenue. A glimpse at those quarterly figures tells the story: Hotel room revenue fell 94.2 percent to $9 million.


Occupancy rates decreased 63.7 percentage points to 33.5 percent. The average daily room rate fell 35.5 percent to $162. Slot win declined 81.7 percent to $11 million and the table games drop decreased 80.7 percent to $99 million, while win percentage decreased 6 points to 11.8 percent.


“Las Vegas cannot perform without the return of these segments,” Goldstein said. “It cannot make money with negligible occupancy midweek, maybe 50 percent capacity on the weekend. In essence, we’re running a regional casino predicated on drive-in business.”


Of the three markets Sands is in, Las Vegas is the one most dependent on fly-in traffic. Goldstein said only about 10 percent of the Macao market flies to airports in Macao or Hong Kong. In Las Vegas, about 45 percent of the market is dependent on people traveling on planes. And right now, the virus is keeping passengers off them in droves.


“We have airlift somewhere around 40 percent of what it was,” Goldstein said. “Of that 40 percent, the occupancy of those planes is much less than what it was previously. We’re in a world of hurt here in terms of Vegas. As far as looking ahead, I don’t crystal ball (any changes until) ‘21.”
 
Won a tad at Harrahs in Nola 1.5 mths ago...6 total people in the entire casino playing blackjack.
Won a bunch last weekend in Bossier City at Margaritaville. All tables were packed (limited per table) and all tables were $25 min....including craps.
Going to some casino in Cincinnati this weekend.
 
Won a tad at Harrahs in Nola 1.5 mths ago...6 total people in the entire casino playing blackjack.
Won a bunch last weekend in Bossier City at Margaritaville. All tables were packed (limited per table) and all tables were $25 min....including craps.
Going to some casino in Cincinnati this weekend.

Good intel. Kind of makes sense, Harrahs NO is a tourism driven casino and little tourism going on six weeks ago. Bossier City is all about Texans wanting to get out of the sort of lockdown they got at home. Were people all wearing masks there?
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Good intel. Kind of makes sense, Harrahs NO is a tourism driven casino and little tourism going on six weeks ago. Bossier City is all about Texans wanting to get out of the sort of lockdown they got at home. Were people all wearing masks there?
The local joints should do good, destination touristy casino areas will really struggle for the forseeable future. Convention business will go straight in the crapper until 2022.
 
Good intel. Kind of makes sense, Harrahs NO is a tourism driven casino and little tourism going on six weeks ago. Bossier City is all about Texans wanting to get out of the sort of lockdown they got at home. Were people all wearing masks there?

Mandatory masks the whole time....Harrahs has to have changed this by now...but they were serving me crown on rocks....in a disposable sippy cup. everyone got a sippy cup. horrible
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Good intel. Kind of makes sense, Harrahs NO is a tourism driven casino and little tourism going on six weeks ago. Bossier City is all about Texans wanting to get out of the sort of lockdown they got at home. Were people all wearing masks there?
Went to a casino in iowa last week, not many masks in there(25%).
 
The local joints should do good, destination touristy casino areas will really struggle for the forseeable future. Convention business will go straight in the crapper until 2022.

All very true. Rob Goldstein going on the call and crying for his mother is making the rounds in the industry and most are like WTF was he doing. Then again, gambling patrons don't listen to company earnings calls so the blowback is minimal. Minimal business on weekdays is a reality in Vegas, its been a reality in other destination markets like Atlantic City and Biloxi for ages. Casino operators just have to adjust their business models, but will take some time.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
All very true. Rob Goldstein going on the call and crying for his mother is making the rounds in the industry and most are like WTF was he doing. Then again, gambling patrons don't listen to company earnings calls so the blowback is minimal. Minimal business on weekdays is a reality in Vegas, its been a reality in other destination markets like Atlantic City and Biloxi for ages. Casino operators just have to adjust their business models, but will take some time.
What made Vegas special wasn't the gambling, it was everything else - the food, the shopping, nightlife, etc. Now there is very little of that, so you may as well play at the local joint. The mask-wearing on planes certainly doesn't help it either.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
What made Vegas special wasn't the gambling, it was everything else - the food, the shopping, nightlife, etc. Now there is very little of that, so you may as well play at the local joint. The mask-wearing on planes certainly doesn't help it either.




agree 100%
 
What made Vegas special wasn't the gambling, it was everything else - the food, the shopping, nightlife, etc. Now there is very little of that, so you may as well play at the local joint. The mask-wearing on planes certainly doesn't help it either.

Its closer than you think other than the nightlife. There just aren't customers coming out to enjoy it. All the shopping and most of the food choices are open or will open by September. Getting people willing to fly again is a huge problem, especially business travelers.
 

blueline

EOG Master
A Delta Air Lines flight returned to the gate at its airport of origin last week in order to remove two passengers who refused to wear masks.
A spokesperson for the Georgia-based airline confirmed to HuffPost in a Monday email that Flight 1227 departed Detroit for Atlanta July 23 before it was forced to turn around.
“Flight 1227 from Detroit to Atlanta returned to the gate following two customers who were non-compliant with crew instructions,” the statement read. “After a short delay, the aircraft departed to Atlanta.”

The spokesperson confirmed that the passengers were “removed due to non-compliance with Delta’s mask requirement,” but offered no additional details.
 

blueline

EOG Master
https://www.yahoo.com/news/four-station-casinos-properties-las-000137841.html

LAS VEGAS – There’s a chance four Station Casino resorts in Southern Nevada have closed for good.

Frank Fertitta III, CEO of Station's parent company, Red Rock Resorts, revealed in an earnings call Tuesday the company is uncertain whether Texas Station, Fiesta Henderson, Fiesta Rancho and the off-Strip Palms will reopen in the wake of COVID-19.

“We don’t know if – or when – we’re going to reopen any of the closed properties,” Fertitta said. “We think it’s too early to make that decision at this time.”
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/four-station-casinos-properties-las-000137841.html

LAS VEGAS – There’s a chance four Station Casino resorts in Southern Nevada have closed for good.

Frank Fertitta III, CEO of Station's parent company, Red Rock Resorts, revealed in an earnings call Tuesday the company is uncertain whether Texas Station, Fiesta Henderson, Fiesta Rancho and the off-Strip Palms will reopen in the wake of COVID-19.

“We don’t know if – or when – we’re going to reopen any of the closed properties,” Fertitta said. “We think it’s too early to make that decision at this time.”

Trust me, there is little loss to the gambling world if three of these went away. The Texas and Fiesta Rancho are across the street from each other in what most of you would consider the hood. The Fiesta Henderson is next to a bunch of industrial businesses, nothing special there. These would totally make sense being sold off, but RRR hates the idea of having a competitor around the category they think they own so that ain't happening.

The Palms is a whole different subject on its own, but rest assured it won't just close and be like the Fontainebleu for a decade, it will get sold and reopen at some point.
 
Caesars Rewards Members now have access to rooms
in Las Vegas from $10/night!!

They had that when they reopened too. Stations are offering rooms without resort fees until end of September which makes them an even better deal than Caesars rooms.
 
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