College Football Final Four
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Conference Championship Winner is just Another Win.
The Fact that it's a Conference Championship Game doesn't give it More Strength.
It's all about Strength of Opponent/Schedule.
If LSU, Clemson, Ohio St. run the table, they are in.
IF Alabama and Oklahoma both end up with 1 Loss, You have Alabama losing to LSU, and Oklahoma losing to Kansas St.
You tell me who gets in.
I'll Argue Alabama All Day.
The Fact that it's a Conference Championship Game doesn't give it More Strength.
It's all about Strength of Opponent/Schedule.
If LSU, Clemson, Ohio St. run the table, they are in.
IF Alabama and Oklahoma both end up with 1 Loss, You have Alabama losing to LSU, and Oklahoma losing to Kansas St.
You tell me who gets in.
I'll Argue Alabama All Day.
Odds to win 2020 College Football Championship Game
Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook, 11/10/2019
Ohio State 2-1 (Open: 10-1, January 7, 2019)
LSU 2-1 (50-1)
Clemson 7-2 (7-2)
Alabama 6-1 (3-2)
Georgia 14-1 (12-1)
Oklahoma 40-1 (15-1)
Penn State 40-1 (100-1)
Utah 40-1 (80-1)
Oregon 50-1 (30-1)
Minnesota 80-1 (1,000-1)
Baylor 100-1 (200-1)
Michigan 500-1 (12-1)
Wisconsin 1,000-1 (50-1)
Auburn 2,000-1 (50-1)
Florida 2,000-1 (25-1)
Notre Dame 2,000-1 (25-1)
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2020 College Football Championship Game
Monday, January 13, 2020
Mercedes-Benz Superdome (TurfNation S5)
New Orleans, Louisiana
ESPN, 8 pm EST/5 pm PST (?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_College_Football_Playoff_National_Championship
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Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook, 11/10/2019
Ohio State 2-1 (Open: 10-1, January 7, 2019)
LSU 2-1 (50-1)
Clemson 7-2 (7-2)
Alabama 6-1 (3-2)
Georgia 14-1 (12-1)
Oklahoma 40-1 (15-1)
Penn State 40-1 (100-1)
Utah 40-1 (80-1)
Oregon 50-1 (30-1)
Minnesota 80-1 (1,000-1)
Baylor 100-1 (200-1)
Michigan 500-1 (12-1)
Wisconsin 1,000-1 (50-1)
Auburn 2,000-1 (50-1)
Florida 2,000-1 (25-1)
Notre Dame 2,000-1 (25-1)
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2020 College Football Championship Game
Monday, January 13, 2020
Mercedes-Benz Superdome (TurfNation S5)
New Orleans, Louisiana
ESPN, 8 pm EST/5 pm PST (?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_College_Football_Playoff_National_Championship
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Anything can happen, but I don't see Georgia beating LSU in the SEC Championship Game either, if they faced each other.
If that's the case, then you have Undefeated LSU, Ohio St, and Clemson.
And Probably a Handful of 1 Loss Teams, Alabama, Oregon/ Utah Winner, and Oklahoma all Lobbying for that #4 Spot.
It be Politics, the Eye Test, Crowd Following, Strength of Schedule, Margin of Victories, Opponents W-L Records, and a few other things thrown in.
FOURTH PLACE WILL BE A " PHOTO FINISH".
Here is 1 other thing to keep in mind
IF: LSU, Ohio State, Clemson all run the table they will finish 1-3 in that order. I don't think anyone would argue this
As for #4: IF the Committee puts Bama #4 that is very unfair to LSU who now has to beat Bama. Again. If I am on the Committee I think long and hard about it
BUT.................since this is also about Ratings - would Bama or Oregon draw more eyeballs to the set? The easy way to go is Bama but I'm not so sure. You will get the SEC viewers if LSU i s in the game but I actually think you get more interest and eyeballs if Oregon gets in because now you open up the Pac-12 market to the game while a game between N*SEC*AA teams doesn't bring as many
IF: LSU, Ohio State, Clemson all run the table they will finish 1-3 in that order. I don't think anyone would argue this
As for #4: IF the Committee puts Bama #4 that is very unfair to LSU who now has to beat Bama. Again. If I am on the Committee I think long and hard about it
BUT.................since this is also about Ratings - would Bama or Oregon draw more eyeballs to the set? The easy way to go is Bama but I'm not so sure. You will get the SEC viewers if LSU i s in the game but I actually think you get more interest and eyeballs if Oregon gets in because now you open up the Pac-12 market to the game while a game between N*SEC*AA teams doesn't bring as many
I think Alabama is toast, assuming your scenario plays out. No SEC Title game in their future for "eyeballs."
Much football left also despite the look.
Oregon-Utah winner, Georgia, Minnesota and Oklahoma have better shots in my eyes.
They need 8 teams. Prairie View A&M made the Big Dance last year. The strongest 2 will always make it there anyway.
Oklahoma (40-1) seems like a potential value play and a team who could be and wouldn't be scared of LSU-OSU-CLEM and could maybe play in a shootout.
Much football left also despite the look.
Oregon-Utah winner, Georgia, Minnesota and Oklahoma have better shots in my eyes.
They need 8 teams. Prairie View A&M made the Big Dance last year. The strongest 2 will always make it there anyway.
Oklahoma (40-1) seems like a potential value play and a team who could be and wouldn't be scared of LSU-OSU-CLEM and could maybe play in a shootout.
100% agree. All "Power 5 Conf Champs" a "Group of 5" school and 2 Wild Cards
DONE!
See how easy that was! And I do think eventually we will get that and this season Alabama would get a WC spot (assuming they win out) and almost certainly Oklahoma, too. And no one would really argue that although if Penn State wins out, knowing they would beat THE Ohio State they would get in over Oklahoma
DONE!
See how easy that was! And I do think eventually we will get that and this season Alabama would get a WC spot (assuming they win out) and almost certainly Oklahoma, too. And no one would really argue that although if Penn State wins out, knowing they would beat THE Ohio State they would get in over Oklahoma
Actually - no it won't. If that happens UGA joins the Top 3 right now and really few can say that would be bad
IF that happens I think the T4 would be: Ohio State (assuming they win out), Clemson, LSU (although if they out LSU ahead of Clemson I'd be OK with it and it really makes no difference who is #2 and who is #3) and UGA #4
IF that happens I think the T4 would be: Ohio State (assuming they win out), Clemson, LSU (although if they out LSU ahead of Clemson I'd be OK with it and it really makes no difference who is #2 and who is #3) and UGA #4
Don't believe Alabama is Toast.
Undefeated LSU, Ohio St, Clemson would get in.
If Alabama Runs the Table, that gives them 1 Loss, and it would be to the #1 Ranked Team in the Country.
If 1 Loss Oregon goes up against 1 Loss Utah, the Winner of that Game will have 1 Loss.
Then put that Resume up Against Alabama's, and decipher who has the Better Argument.
I wagered $5 on Oregon at 50/1 at the Westgate to win it all as I agree with Winky's general premise and think they'll outscore Utah.
If they (Ducks) get a theoretical nod over Bama and face #1 seed OSU or LSU. they may be able to outscore them but neutralizing the Buckeyes or Tigers (Burrow) QB will be imperative in that Semi. Then beating the winner of the other theoretical Semi with #2 LSU-OSU and #3 Clemson would be like a miracle and require Luck and the TO and Field Position edges likely.
I also threw $5 on Trevor Lawrence at 100/1 (to win Heisman) as I think his numbers could get gawdy, it's determined by writers and the OSU and LSU QBs can flub it up. Tua has no shot in my mind. Lawrence may be able to squeeze out 3 great performances and help win the tile again for Clemson, but the problem with this Futures longshot is that the Heisman is voted for in the first week of December while the Semis and Title Tilt are played in January when a full body of work (to be judged) isn't done. That's like judging a year by what we've done from January to October. Writer lemming-ness may already have Burrow winning this, but the Buckeyes QB has been great and deserves consideration. Betting (at the SuperBook closes at end of business Saturday, so what ends up happening might have little bearing on who really deserves the Heisman Trophy. Clemson's Etienne and Alabama's Jeudy are the two guys I'd draft first. Lawrence would be #3 if he enters Draft. He will be very good in the NFL.
Whomever wins the Championship Game will deserve it. They need 8 teams. And never 16—this is very obvious.
#1 LSU vs #8 Oklahoma or most respectable Minn-Utah-Oregon loser
#2 Ohio St vs #7 Minnesota (if beat Iowa, play well in B10 Title) or Utah (if beat Oregon)
#3 Clemson vs #6 Oregon (or Utah if Utes beat Oregon in P12)
#4/5 Georgia vs #5/#4 Alabama (>When a #4 or #5 could win it all, you need 8 teams)
Note: AUBURN can thrash all of his with BTB wins vs GA and ALA
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If they (Ducks) get a theoretical nod over Bama and face #1 seed OSU or LSU. they may be able to outscore them but neutralizing the Buckeyes or Tigers (Burrow) QB will be imperative in that Semi. Then beating the winner of the other theoretical Semi with #2 LSU-OSU and #3 Clemson would be like a miracle and require Luck and the TO and Field Position edges likely.
I also threw $5 on Trevor Lawrence at 100/1 (to win Heisman) as I think his numbers could get gawdy, it's determined by writers and the OSU and LSU QBs can flub it up. Tua has no shot in my mind. Lawrence may be able to squeeze out 3 great performances and help win the tile again for Clemson, but the problem with this Futures longshot is that the Heisman is voted for in the first week of December while the Semis and Title Tilt are played in January when a full body of work (to be judged) isn't done. That's like judging a year by what we've done from January to October. Writer lemming-ness may already have Burrow winning this, but the Buckeyes QB has been great and deserves consideration. Betting (at the SuperBook closes at end of business Saturday, so what ends up happening might have little bearing on who really deserves the Heisman Trophy. Clemson's Etienne and Alabama's Jeudy are the two guys I'd draft first. Lawrence would be #3 if he enters Draft. He will be very good in the NFL.
Whomever wins the Championship Game will deserve it. They need 8 teams. And never 16—this is very obvious.
#1 LSU vs #8 Oklahoma or most respectable Minn-Utah-Oregon loser
#2 Ohio St vs #7 Minnesota (if beat Iowa, play well in B10 Title) or Utah (if beat Oregon)
#3 Clemson vs #6 Oregon (or Utah if Utes beat Oregon in P12)
#4/5 Georgia vs #5/#4 Alabama (>When a #4 or #5 could win it all, you need 8 teams)
Note: AUBURN can thrash all of his with BTB wins vs GA and ALA
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Still think Alabama will finish with 1 Loss.
If that happens, it will still be interesting, on who gets that #4 Spot.
Remember, Auburn Lost Yesterday.
Oregon's 1 Loss is to Auburn.
Those kind of things weaken Oregon's Strength of Schedule, which is 1 of the things that the committee weights.
If Bama and Oregon finish with 1 Loss, you have Bama losing to #1 LSU at Home, and Oregon Losing to 3 Loss, maybe 4 Loss Auburn at Home.
Currently, Utah hasn't faced a Team ranked in the top 25 College Football Poll.
Oregon has faced 1 Team ranked in the top 25 College Football Poll and Lost.
If it comes down to this, we'll see the committee's thought process in all this.
If that happens, it will still be interesting, on who gets that #4 Spot.
Remember, Auburn Lost Yesterday.
Oregon's 1 Loss is to Auburn.
Those kind of things weaken Oregon's Strength of Schedule, which is 1 of the things that the committee weights.
If Bama and Oregon finish with 1 Loss, you have Bama losing to #1 LSU at Home, and Oregon Losing to 3 Loss, maybe 4 Loss Auburn at Home.
Currently, Utah hasn't faced a Team ranked in the top 25 College Football Poll.
Oregon has faced 1 Team ranked in the top 25 College Football Poll and Lost.
If it comes down to this, we'll see the committee's thought process in all this.
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...............as someone who posted U26 in 2h of that game - not unexpected. Anyone watching the game knew all Saban wanted to do was run out the clock and get the game over. It will be interesting to see if he tries to score a Million this week against Western Carolina or just tries to get the game over. Auburn has a great defense and I can't see Bama scoring more than 35 - if that - against them.
Keep in mind Oregon/Utah will play on a weekend Bama is not. Oregon's loss was the 1st game of the season and a game they should have won. Bama was down 20 at half to LSU and while I will admit if that game goes 5 more minutes not sure LSU wins. But Bama was really never in that game. I do think Oregon gets in if they win out. Utah will be dicey
Keep in mind Oregon/Utah will play on a weekend Bama is not. Oregon's loss was the 1st game of the season and a game they should have won. Bama was down 20 at half to LSU and while I will admit if that game goes 5 more minutes not sure LSU wins. But Bama was really never in that game. I do think Oregon gets in if they win out. Utah will be dicey