Colo -11

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Re: Colo -11

so beating the closing number by 2 does not offset missing the 6.5? I don't know about that. Is not The bookmaker saying 7 was as weak a number as 6.5.


anyone else thoughts? shrink would love to hear your opinion.
 

shoebox

EOG Veteran
Re: Colo -11

-7 is not only a good bet, its a great bet, anytime you can beat the closer by 2pts, REGARDLESS OF THE OPEN, u have a good bet.

Dont take my word for it, just ask Billy Walters, or in fact dont ask him, just watch how he operates. The man who is the most well know and most respected sports gambler ever. Not only was he destroying books in the late 80's he is still doing it in 2008, walk into any Sportsbook today and see who all the BM's fear and want to know who he is on. BW will bet a game -7 on gameday that has sat at -6.5 all week.
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Re: Colo -11

-7 is not only a good bet, its a great bet, anytime you can beat the closer by 2pts, REGARDLESS OF THE OPEN, u have a good bet.

Dont take my word for it, just ask Billy Walters, or in fact dont ask him, just watch how he operates. The man who is the most well know and most respected sports gambler ever. Not only was he destroying books in the late 80's he is still doing it in 2008, walk into any Sportsbook today and see who all the BM's fear and want to know who he is on. BW will bet a game -7 on gameday that has sat at -6.5 all week.

I agree but if he knows he is betting it why not take the 6.5. I can see that as a valid argument.
 

shoebox

EOG Veteran
Re: Colo -11

Tom Brady, since you bring up Ed at Right Angle Sports and you respect him, how can u explain this???

This email was sent out by RAS this weekend:

Play: Oklahoma State -7 1 UNIT

We have five total (over/under) plays going Saturday. ORDER NOW to not miss a single play.

Click here to view Week 1 Situational Notes.

Explain how I am the idiot and the moron and RAS is the pro but we gave out the same game at the same line??

You are a clown, seriously, u have exposed yourself for whatever agenda you have, I am a loser and RAS is a true pro and we have the same bet:+textinb3
 

TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
Re: Colo -11

so beating the closing number by 2 does not offset missing the 6.5? I don't know about that. Is not The bookmaker saying 7 was as weak a number as 6.5.


anyone else thoughts? shrink would love to hear your opinion.


6 was available all week and yesterday. SIX. Then 6.5 well into yesterday. Money often comes in on the favorite near gametime in college games where it is the right side and TV games. The difference between betting at 6 and betting at 7 is the difference between a winner and loser to answer your question. 6 is obviously much better and smarter. This is not a close call AA. Not saying 7 is a bad bet but it is not a great bet for sure. Not when 6 was available for a long long time. ANy quality gambler will tell you this.
 

shoebox

EOG Veteran
Re: Colo -11

This game was at -7 AT CRIS since WEDNESDAY stop putting your foot in your mouth please:


<TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/25 08:49:15am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>7</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/25 08:49:15am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>67?</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/27 08:16:29am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>67</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/28 08:37:52am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>66</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 09:26:34am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>64?</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 09:28:23am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 09:31:09am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>64?</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 11:23:48am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>63?</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 11:27:53am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 11:38:53am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>7?</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 11:38:54am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 12:27:49pm</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 12:27:49pm</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>8</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 12:31:32pm</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>64?</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD></TR>
 

shoebox

EOG Veteran
Re: Colo -11

This is grande, same thing, -7 since wednesday:


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class=casino-whitebg-right>66</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 08:59:01am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>66?</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 09:09:16am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>66</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 09:13:19am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>66</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 09:13:19am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>7?</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 09:23:25am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>7</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 09:23:25am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>66</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 09:26:58am</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>64?</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 11:28:16am</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 12:24:58pm</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 12:24:58pm</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>7?</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 12:28:13pm</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>8</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 12:28:13pm</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 12:28:23pm</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 12:28:23pm</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>8-15</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-greybg-left>08/30 12:30:45pm</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left>#171 </TD><TD class=casino-greybg-left>Oklahoma State</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-right>8</TD> <TD class=casino-greybg-left> </TD> </TR><TR><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>08/30 12:30:45pm</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left>#172 </TD><TD class=casino-whitebg-left>Washington State</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-right>64</TD> <TD class=casino-whitebg-left> </TD></TR>
 
Re: Colo -11

so beating the closing number by 2 does not offset missing the 6.5? I don't know about that. Is not The bookmaker saying 7 was as weak a number as 6.5.


anyone else thoughts? shrink would love to hear your opinion.

No bookmaker in the world will beat you if you consistently get 2 points better than the closing line laying 11-10, period...12io4j2w90

Most won't take your action for long or you will be severely limited...

I speak from experience..
 

munson15

I want winners...
Re: Colo -11

Since the difference between 6.5 and 7 could potentially be a win vs. a push, it would obviously have been better to play 6.5. Not everybody operates the same way, not everybody has outs early in the week, not everybody likes to play a game before they have late information available. But if you told me simply that you had bet a fave -7, and the closer was 9, I would think you were holding a strong ticket. Just one man's opinion.:cheers
 

TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
Re: Colo -11

That speaks volumes about the value of this info and it would be a shame to see posters like Tom run shoe off...:finger004
\\:finger004:finger004:finger004:finger004:finger004:finger004

Everything I said is above is true and speaks for itself. You calling him great is a fuckin joke. :finger004:finger004:finger004:finger004
 

shoebox

EOG Veteran
Re: Colo -11

Tom, where are u ignoring my posts???

What about RAS, a guy u repspect giving out same game same line?? Why about my copy paste from Don Best Line History proving you wrong on the OKST game being 6 on gameday?? Try not to get facts in the way of your bashing of me, LOL
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
Re: Colo -11

Tom you have to relax a bit,

Great is not that high of a praise. The over used term might be "World Class", that is an overused term... Like in the NFL this and that WR have "World Class" Speed. bullshit.

to say a guy is Great at what he does is just a compliment on being skillful. cripes I say that "great" about my mailman, trashman, priest, hair cutter. what that means is above average and solid and really that I'm comfortable with their work. They do a great job. Are they really doing a GREAT job? eh maybe maybe not.

Shoe is great at what he provides EOG....
 

Mr. NBA

EOG Dedicated
Re: Colo -11

That speaks volumes about the value of this info and it would be a shame to see posters like Tom run shoe off...:finger004



I dont get why people trash.....shoe has a wealth of info and knowledge and for him to take the time to post is very cool to say the least. MOST people in the "know" avoid posting on these sites like the plague......and with shit like this can ya blame em?



Tom relax man.....if you dont agree with shoe or you just straight up dont respect him just dont open his threads.:cheers
 
Re: Colo -11

\\:finger004:finger004:finger004:finger004:finger004:finger004

Everything I said is above is true and speaks for itself. You calling him great is a fuckin joke. :finger004:finger004:finger004:finger004

You're right...

It doesn't matter to me...

Have a good night....
 

TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
Re: Colo -11

Tom you have to relax a bit,

Great is not that high of a praise. The over used term might be "World Class", that is an overused term... Like in the NFL this and that WR have "World Class" Speed. bullshit.

to say a guy is Great at what he does is just a compliment on being skillful. cripes I say that "great" about my mailman, trashman, priest, hair cutter. what that means is above average and solid and really that I'm comfortable with their work. They do a great job. Are they really doing a GREAT job? eh maybe maybe not.

Shoe is great at what he provides EOG....

How is under 500 great or close to being great? His record is not great plus all my other points I made.

BTW definition of great: remarkable in magnitude, degree, or effectiveness <great bloodshed

HOW IS LOSING MONEY BETTING HIS PICKS GREAT in any form or definition?
 

TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
Re: Colo -11

I dont get why people trash.....shoe has a wealth of info and knowledge and for him to take the time to post is very cool to say the least. MOST people in the "know" avoid posting on these sites like the plague......and with shit like this can ya blame em?



Tom relax man.....if you dont agree with shoe or you just straight up dont respect him just dont open his threads.:cheers


I got nothing against him and do not talk much about him. And will not in the future I got a problem with SHrink telling us how great he is. He has not been great. Why call someone great when he is average at best??? Can you see my point?? I hate seeing gamblers mislead. Sorry.
 

munson15

I want winners...
Re: Colo -11

munson - it was over when i posted .they could not lose...were up 2 scores.

I had it 2:14 to play and with some of the bad beats I have suffered recently, felt the call was premature. I know you had the other side, just wanted to cover the backsides of the people on Colorado.:+textinb3
 

shoebox

EOG Veteran
Re: Colo -11

Its fucking amazing what I go thru on here with some completely ignorant posters with agendas.

I post OKST -7, closes -8.5 and wins by 26

I post Colo -11, closes 13.5 and wins by 21

And somehow I am an idiot loser becasue last March I had a bad Tourney.

ANYTHING can happen in the short term, you can flip a coin 50 times and it can be 40 heads and 10 tails, but if u flip that coin 1000 times its gonna be close to 50%.

Forget about results and look at what I am posting here, win or lose, if u cant see that these were both winning plays long term then u need your head examined. I wonder what kind of shit I would catch if i were Laying -8.5 on a game that closes -7 or taking +11 on a game that closes +13.5, lol. If I were betting games that moved againsts me and I wasnt even close in the picks, then sure, go ahead and blast me but that isnt gonna happen.

Seriously, if I were betting a game and it closed 1.5pts the worst of it and I lost by 26 open your mouth in your crusade to protect the gamblers of EOG, what a clown.
 

munson15

I want winners...
Re: Colo -11

Its fucking amazing what I go thru on here with some completely ignorant posters with agendas.

I post OKST -7, closes -8.5 and wins by 26

I post Colo -11, closes 13.5 and wins by 21

And somehow I am an idiot loser becasue last March I had a bad Tourney.

ANYTHING can happen in the short term, you can flip a coin 50 times and it can be 40 heads and 10 tails, but if u flip that coin 1000 times its gonna be close to 50%.

Forget about results and look at what I am posting here, win or lose, if u cant see that these were both winning plays long term then u need your head examined. I wonder what kind of shit I would catch if i were Laying -8.5 on a game that closes -7 or taking +11 on a game that closes +13.5, lol. If I were betting games that moved againsts me and I wasnt even close in the picks, then sure, go ahead and blast me but that isnt gonna happen.

Seriously, if I were betting a game and it closed 1.5pts the worst of it and I lost by 26 open your mouth in your crusade to protect the gamblers of EOG, what a clown.
Please consider the majority as being appreciative of the games you post here. I made some bucks all weekend following your posted selections. Thank you very much.
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Re: Colo -11

good call shoe. and to clarify i have no problem or issue with you what so ever. i was just asking a couple questions to learn. no agenda here.


:cheers
 

shoebox

EOG Veteran
Re: Colo -11

AA, its got nada to do with you, dont worry. Its Tom Brady and 2 other clowns that havent checked in yet, they will wait to check in on a thread where I have a loser, lol.

This forum is abut asking questions and getting answered but some people just dont know how to act and are jealous for whatever reason.
 

shoebox

EOG Veteran
Re: Colo -11

AA, also to answer your other question about why BW will wait on a agme and maybe bet it at a worse number on gameday is simple. Some people just couldnt imagine how much this man gets down per game week after week, midweek limits are no where near as big as gameday limits for starters, its easier to minpulate games midweek and its easier to hide your real plays on gameday. Trying to keep your beards a secret is alot easier when u are firing gameday when everyone else is, compared to betting on a Tuesday afternoon for a Saturday game. Also its no given the line will move againsts him, for every game he misses out on a half point he gains a point on others. Obviously its not his goal to lay 7 on a game thats 6.5 but if that means he can keep his outs, keep his beards hidden and get down 500k vs 100k then so be it and have the oportunity to also lay 5.5 on gameday(they dont always move againsts him by waiting). There is also many other factors key to betting gameday, Injuries that may happen midweek, weather issues, suspensions, there are so many variables that are not known Tuesday that are known Saturday that rarely change.
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Re: Colo -11

AA, also to answer your other question about why BW will wait on a agme and maybe bet it at a worse number on gameday is simple. Some people just couldnt imagine how much this man gets down per game week after week, midweek limits are no where near as big as gameday limits for starters, its easier to minpulate games midweek and its easier to hide your real plays on gameday. Trying to keep your beards a secret is alot easier when u are firing gameday when everyone else is, compared to betting on a Tuesday afternoon for a Saturday game. Also its no given the line will move againsts him, for every game he misses out on a half point he gains a point on others. Obviously its not his goal to lay 7 on a game thats 6.5 but if that means he can keep his outs, keep his beards hidden and get down 500k vs 100k then so be it and have the oportunity to also lay 5.5 on gameday(they dont always move againsts him by waiting). There is also many other factors key to betting gameday, Injuries that may happen midweek, weather issues, suspensions, there are so many variables that are not known Tuesday that are known Saturday that rarely change.


thanks shoebox. i appreciate the info and all your plays. where do i sign up for the BW beard gig? :cheers
 

mistermoe

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Colo -11

Good job shoebox...... Keep'em coming.. Appreciate you taking the time to post your plays........
 

jacksorbetter

EOG Dedicated
Re: Colo -11

More importantly than this pissing match:


How bout them Buffaloes!!!!!! The future phenom Darrell Scott and his uncle Josh Smith both looked fast as hell. They will beat WVU in 2 weeks.
 
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