Did FanDuel really give away $13 million yesterday?

[WildBill]

They said they would move the line 1 point for every 2500 bets. Line moved from -7 to +113, so 120 points times 2500 bets means they got 300,000 bets on the promo. Most you could win was $45.45, I'm sure there were some idiots who didn't bet the max $50. So they had to give away at least $10 million and could have been a max of over $13 million??? And yet the stock just keeps going up for these guys...

 

[MrTop]

They said they would move the line 1 point for every 2500 bets. Line moved from -7 to +113, so 120 points times 2500 bets means they got 300,000 bets on the promo. Most you could win was $45.45, I'm sure there were some idiots who didn't bet the max $50. So they had to give away at least $10 million and could have been a max of over $13 million??? And yet the stock just keeps going up for these guys...

flutter owns way more books than fan duel.......fan duel just enetered a 2nd place in new jersey.... in an atlantic city casino

 

[WildBill]

flutter owns way more books than fan duel.......fan duel just enetered a 2nd place in new jersey.... in an atlantic city casino

Gave away $13 million for what? I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of their marketing and that of many of their competitors. I'll take the free money and I'm sure you do it too, but why do people really invest in these books at absolutely insane valuations thinking these guys are future industry titans off an activity with 5% hold rates and almost limitless competition? Go make money off the trend now, but this is so obviously similar to 1998 and the dot.com stock frenzy. In a few years these guys will be trading at multiples like normal casinos, just with less revenue and profit, and a lot of them will be consolidated into relatively few books.

 

[MrTop]

Gave away $13 million for what? I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of their marketing and that of many of their competitors. I'll take the free money and I'm sure you do it too, but why do people really invest in these books at absolutely insane valuations thinking these guys are future industry titans off an activity with 5% hold rates and almost limitless competition? Go make money off the trend now, but this is so obviously similar to 1998 and the dot.com stock frenzy. In a few years these guys will be trading at multiples like normal casinos, just with less revenue and profit, and a lot of them will be consolidated into relatively few books.

I have not played one bonus in new jersey..... if it shows up in my account then ok...

 

[WildBill]

I have not played one bonus in new jersey..... if it shows up in my account then ok...

You didn't throw a $50 spot on the Bills just to collect free money? I mean literally when they do these line moves with bets they are free money, don't even have to play it through 1x.

 

[FairWarning]

Gave away $13 million for what? I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of their marketing and that of many of their competitors. I'll take the free money and I'm sure you do it too, but why do people really invest in these books at absolutely insane valuations thinking these guys are future industry titans off an activity with 5% hold rates and almost limitless competition? Go make money off the trend now, but this is so obviously similar to 1998 and the dot.com stock frenzy. In a few years these guys will be trading at multiples like normal casinos, just with less revenue and profit, and a lot of them will be consolidated into relatively few books.

They do offer much more than regular books. For me their live lines are great and they offer fantasy football props, no other books offer those.

 

[WildBill]

They do offer much more than regular books. For me their live lines are great and they offer fantasy football props, no other books offer those.

You guys in Michigan are getting to participate in a golden era, might be the best situation ever for sports betting customers. You have enough potential operators across the state to make it ultra competitive and the lure of offering online casino is going to get these guys to act insane thinking customer value is much higher than in other states with no online casino allowed yet. Plus the timing is fantastic, us here in Colorado had to kickoff the free plays and play off our upfront bonuses on shit like KBO baseball and Belarus soccer. I remember thinking having German soccer back was like nirvana and then promptly had some free plays go bad. You guys get to start off with NFL playoffs, NBA/NCAAB and NHL.

 

[MrTop]

You didn't throw a $50 spot on the Bills just to collect free money? I mean literally when they do these line moves with bets they are free money, don't even have to play it through 1x.

no.. unless a book puts the money in the balance... i do not play a bonus... I don't like them holding up my money.... they don't give much anyhow. I have 6 monitors and 3 computers they can never pay for what i invested in hardware./stocks and sports

 

[Jb777]

Gave away $13 million for what? I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of their marketing and that of many of their competitors. I'll take the free money and I'm sure you do it too, but why do people really invest in these books at absolutely insane valuations thinking these guys are future industry titans off an activity with 5% hold rates and almost limitless competition? Go make money off the trend now, but this is so obviously similar to 1998 and the dot.com stock frenzy. In a few years these guys will be trading at multiples like normal casinos, just with less revenue and profit, and a lot of them will be consolidated into relatively few books.

It's all about market share. Market share market share market share. Paddy Power's mindset with these promos always has been and always will be "we'll get it back anyway."

 

[TobyTyler]

no.. unless a book puts the money in the balance... i do not play a bonus... I don't like them holding up my money.... they don't give much anyhow. I have 6 monitors and 3 computers they can never pay for what i invested in betting sports & stocks.

Dude they don't hold anything

They literally just add 50 bucks to your acct for 15 seconds of "work" (reading the promo details)

They also gave me ten bucks for Christmas

 

[MrTop]

Dude they don't hold anything

They literally just add 50 bucks to your acct for 15 seconds of "work" (reading the promo details)

They also gave me ten bucks for Christmas

i don't read those emails...i do see fan duel and mgm do add to my balance... cause i have to adjust my spreadsheet for those 2 books.. I keep a running history on the NJ books.

 

[TobyTyler]

i don't read those emails...i do see fan duel and mgm do add to my balance... cause i have to adjust my spreadsheet for those 2 books.. I keep a running history on the NJ books.

There are no emails

They plastered it at the top of the home page on phone

Spreadsheets?

Mr Top I gotta feeling we go to different types of parties

 

[MrTop]

There are no emails

They plastered it at the top of the home page on phone

Spreadsheets?

Mr Top I gotta feeling we go to different types of parties

they have my email... they all do... and they all send emails. ...I don't play on the phone... nowhere but thescore and tipico . I play on websites

 

[raiders72001]

FD and DK have a lot of goodies. I took the Buffalo one at FD and Draftkings had a 100% profit bonus.

 

[TobyTyler]

Tipico!

Don't tell anybody about their live player props where you can find a jewel every game if you have the time

 

[MrTop]

Tipico!

Don't tell anybody about their live player props where you can find a jewel every game if you have the time

does your password same with them ?

 

[TobyTyler]

does your password same with them ?

?

No comprende

 

[MrTop]

?

No comprende

does your phone save your password with tipico? My does not maybe cause it is an android or they shut it off as security

 

[TobyTyler]

does your phone save your password with tipico? My does not maybe cause it is an android or they shut it off as security

Nope, and they timeout quickly, major pain in the ass
Score quicker with thumbprint and 4 digit code

 

[MrTop]

yep you are right... score likes to make you miss by putting up a offline.. with the old vegas oddsmaker that use to work for the mgm in nevada

 

[TobyTyler]

yep you are right... score likes to make you miss by putting up a offline.. with the old vegas oddsmaker that use to work for the mgm in nevada

I use Score for baseball only for most part

Score plays games - College football team totals - they like to shade a number one way, and juice it even though was still half pt off the key number, to make it seem like you are getting a better #, when you would be screwing yourself taking it

 

[fifty cint]

Dude they don't hold anything

They literally just add 50 bucks to your acct for 15 seconds of "work" (reading the promo details)

They also gave me ten bucks for Christmas

There are no emails

They plastered it at the top of the home page on phone

Spreadsheets?

Mr Top I gotta feeling we go to different types of parties

LOL.....Yeah I think I do different types of partying as well.Good luck & safe travels Mr.Top...Toby shoot me a text when you get a minute

 

[Patrick McIrish]

Score plays games - College football team totals - they like to shade a number one way, and juice it even though was still half pt off the key number, to make it seem like you are getting a better #, when you would be screwing yourself taking it

Yep, squares eat that stuff up. It works.

 

[WildBill]

I use Score for baseball only for most part

Score plays games - College football team totals - they like to shade a number one way, and juice it even though was still half pt off the key number, to make it seem like you are getting a better #, when you would be screwing yourself taking it

Agree on Score. Sometimes I get the feel like its Bodog/Bovada on there and before you know it they are going to switch off the square lines and give me the sharp numbers. I hate that you have to use the app and that they don't share their odds feed with oddsboom and whoever else aggregates them. I have about two bets worth left on them and forget to look at them a lot of the time. SBK also went from amazing numbers to lousy high hold numbers with just an app too, but they at least let their numbers go to oddsboom once in awhile. But both are pretty much for me at the point where I could either close them up or leave a bet or two there just in case I find an off number, otherwise they are a waste.

 

[MrTop]

Agree on Score. Sometimes I get the feel like its Bodog/Bovada on there and before you know it they are going to switch off the square lines and give me the sharp numbers. I hate that you have to use the app and that they don't share their odds feed with oddsboom and whoever else aggregates them. I have about two bets worth left on them and forget to look at them a lot of the time. SBK also went from amazing numbers to lousy high hold numbers with just an app too, but they at least let their numbers go to oddsboom once in awhile. But both are pretty much for me at the point where I could either close them up or leave a bet or two there just in case I find an off number, otherwise they are a waste.

jay left the vegas MGM now makes their number. So he sets traps. Like Indiana st yeaterday.... everyone was at 5 ...score at 6 the team wins by 7........thescore on don best

 

[WildBill]

jay left the vegas MGM now makes their number. So he sets traps. Like Indiana st yeaterday.... everyone was at 5 ...score at 6 the team wins by 7........thescore on don best

NJ numbers are on Don Best I have been told...

 

[MrTop]

NJ numbers are on Don Best I have been told...

the score is.works well on DB.. drafkings delayed...caesars 98% are correct ....... william hill & mgm not the right numbers.........bet365 the numbers get stuck sometimes....but work overall

 

[NowshesmyRuca]

Agree on Score. Sometimes I get the feel like its Bodog/Bovada on there and before you know it they are going to switch off the square lines and give me the sharp numbers. I hate that you have to use the app and that they don't share their odds feed with oddsboom and whoever else aggregates them. I have about two bets worth left on them and forget to look at them a lot of the time. SBK also went from amazing numbers to lousy high hold numbers with just an app too, but they at least let their numbers go to oddsboom once in awhile. But both are pretty much for me at the point where I could either close them up or leave a bet or two there just in case I find an off number, otherwise they are a waste.

I've noticed Sore and Elite use the same #s.

 

[WildBill]

I've noticed Sore and Elite use the same #s.

Interesting, I haven't gotten onto Elite yet. I do know DraftKings and Rivers are the same lines for the most part, but different promos and boosts so have to look at both.

 

[Sleepy]

They must make money hand over fist. I can bet a max of 100 on a CBB total at Jazz, Gtbets, intertops, Bovada but when I'm at Fanduel I can 50x the overnight line on a kiosk and no one will say a word.

 

[MrTop]

They must make money hand over fist. I can bet a max of 100 on a CBB total at Jazz, Gtbets, intertops, Bovada but when I'm at Fanduel I can 50x the overnight line on a kiosk and no one will say a word.

YEP, Fan Duel has deep pockets but software not that great.

 

[IWishIWasAPro]

I got banned off POINTSBET for abusing boosts and numbers (whatever the fuck that means) and FAnduel Software does suck. I've been messing with these books and their boosts and weird prices lately and I don't think one should do that. Even if its $50 max bets. I will give credit though they are extremely quick with payouts for PayPal. Basically automatic cashing out Paypal.

Issue is I don't want to pay taxes though. The way money moves and the way I bet is psychopathic. Too many red flags at these legit sites. Much easier with bitcoin. I have to play with offshore.

 

[railbird]

I got banned off POINTSBET for abusing boosts and numbers (whatever the fuck that means) and FAnduel Software does suck. I've been messing with these books and their boosts and weird prices lately and I don't think one should do that. Even if its $50 max bets. I will give credit though they are extremely quick with payouts for PayPal. Basically automatic cashing out PayPal.

Because issue is I don't want to pay taxes though. The way money moves and the way I bet is psychopathic. Too many red flags at these legit sites. Much easier with bitcoin. I have to play with offshore.

your allowed to get paypal payouts these days?

 

[railbird]

They must make money hand over fist. I can bet a max of 100 on a CBB total at Jazz, Gtbets, intertops, Bovada but when I'm at Fanduel I can 50x the overnight line on a kiosk and no one will say a word.

post some of your totals.

 

[IWishIWasAPro]

Yeah at some of these legal books, PayPal was available, deposit and withdrawal. so is your bank account, debit card, the usual. Just for me, I prefer offshore still with the use of bitcoin. Also offshore typically still has better numbers.

 

[MrTop]

your allowed to get paypal payouts these days?

Paypal is with U.S. legal books. However they all do not deal with paypal... It has been a little slow putting it in.. Most are checking accounts. I got paid last week with bet365 in 3 hours

 

[MrTop]

Yeah at some of these legal books, PayPal was available, deposit and withdrawal. so is your bank account, debit card, the usual. Just for me, I prefer offshore still with the use of bitcoin. Also offshore typically still has better numbers.
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remember the tax form coming out in a month asks you did you ever buy bitcoin.. better say yes...if you say no they will fine the crap out of you down the road

 

[IWishIWasAPro]

They started asking that and I say no. I think when they ask that they're looking for sellers as well, whatever profits you made off bitcoin. I never sold bitcoin ever off am exchange or coinbase or whatever.

Im not dealing with over 6 figures though so I'm not sure how I would play it out.

 

[MrTop]

They started asking that and I say no. I think when they ask that they're looking for sellers as well, whatever profits you made off bitcoin. I never sold bitcoin ever off am exchange or coinbase or whatever.

Im not dealing with over 6 figures though so I'm not sure how I would play it out.

they ask you all the questions to get you in a trap. If you admit it you are better off. It is the first question in the tax form already

 

[TobyTyler]

Fanduel PayPal withdrawal is 48 hrs like clockwork. I peppered them in Dec with small amounts to pay for everything xmas.

I put 500 in Resorts last week to take advantage of $250 risk free bet. Put all 500 on Steelers taking it out now via PayPal.

Resorts -
Software terrible, and app only works with wifi
Support terrible
Been 3 days since put in for PayPal, still waiting