Re: Do we know a semi accurate figure for ALL money stolen or froze via these 2 issues...
"Bottom line is a lot of people did not get paid because of Pinnacle's decision to close."
Here is a case where the book transfers the money to Neteller and the customer asks for a check and doesn't get it because it is frozen. As a player you are screwed. This isn't the same thing as a check that bounced but it is not a long way off.
The players had no crystal ball either. However, you want to cut it or slice it - it didn't get done. That is the risk in the industry right now.
So, how does Pinnacle feel about the hard earned money of the customers? Well, it just isn't their problem. We transferred the money to Neteller and the accounts got frozen - hey - player - that's the breaks - U R screwed!
How do the merchants who advertised for Pinnacle feel?
How do I feel about telling a couple of my friends that Pinnacle was a good place to play and Neteller was a good way to move the money? The answer is NVFG.
But, it is the nature of the beast. Nobody is at fault - I can't blame Pinnacle, can't blame advertisers, can't blame myself, can't blame my friends-can't blame the postup system - but I can blame the DOJ. Those CS'rs - they are the ones at fault for the whole mess.