Federal Agent: No Sex Scandal At Penn State, Just A "Political Hit Job

brucefan

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When you say come forward, you mean just cash a million dollar check right? See all of these " Victims" were from the second mile , so we already know they come from low income, broken homes, where many may have been abused, just not by Jerry . They were told Jerry was a ped, and so these kids just piled on, without any evidence, claiming repressed memories !


"As a result, 32 accusers have been paid an average of $3 million each for their stories of abuse. This was done without any sort of trial, investigation, or even cross-examination. If the accuser had been part of Sandusky’s Second Mile charity, was under 30 years old (the statute of limitations in Pennsylvania for such claims), and the accusation involved Penn State in any way, they were paid with almost literally no questions asked. The agreements with the claimants (see below) make it very clear that Penn State was not verifying the accuracy of their accusations and Penn State’s president has recently, against his self-interest, admitted that the university did not adequately vet these accusations.
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I have seen a ton of “Media Malpractice” in my career, but there is nothing I have endured which compares to what we are witnessing today with the further destruction of a revered dead man with horrendous allegations which are not only not remotely proven, they simply are not true.
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Victim Settlement Agreement by Mediaite on Scribd





John has a tape of a COMPLETELY FAKE victim showing what they did to coerce him to change his story alledge a crime

Many never had to testify or say anything other then they Knew Jerry and he looked at me funny one time and Penn State gave them HUGE checks . Many victims defended Jerry when these accusations came out, strongly , and publicly, until they lawyered up of course.

When Joe was fired by Penn State, it was over for any hope of finding truth

Even if you though JS was guilty , has anyone here stopped and thought why no one at the second mile has been charged or sued ? Remember , thats where Jerry worked, he was an EX football coach at Penn State . Shouldnt somone at the second mile who were trained to protect these kids be part of this story on some level?

Nope, because the winningest coach in college football doesnt work there, he works at PSU
http://www.bigtrial.net/2017/04/federal-agent-no-sex-scandal-at-penn.html?m=0
 
#44
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Re: Federal Agent: No Sex Scandal At Penn State,Just A "Political Hit Job

John ZieglerVerified account @Zigmanfreud
Insane: I'm convinced Paterno's dropped NCAA lawsuit out of fear of destroying fake 71 accuser who was put up to it by guy who DID abuse him

John ZieglerVerified account @Zigmanfreud
One based on extensive research & one that isn't even debatable, really.






 
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#46
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When I can, I will tell Ziegler to name names because then he would be opened up to 2 counts of libel. He won't dare. If he really believes this and he has proven it to himself, name the names, force a libel trial and cross examine everybody and become a legend by proving Jerry Sandusky was framed. Again, he won't. This guy is worse and worse than a publicity hound. He is a disturbed man. He wrote about his obsession of Tiger Woods and how Tiger winning majors prevented him from committing suicide then when Tiger lost his form, he became so angry he heckled him during a tournament. Won sick puppy.
 
#47
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Too bad Tiger didn't lose a couple more majors during his prime.
 
#48
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Ziegler interviewed Sandusky from prison and debuted some of that interview live on the Today Show on March 25, 2013. Ziegler steadfastly maintains that Sandusky was a "chaste pedophile" and committed no sexual acts with his victims.[SUP][31][/SUP] Ziegler, who initially said he believed Sandusky was guilty of the crimes he was accused of, now believes that Sandusky is innocent.[SUP][32][/SUP] Ziegler's prison interview with Sandusky came under fire by the Paterno family. Paterno family attorney Wick Sollers released a statement, describing it as "transparently self-serving and yet another insult to the victims and anyone who cares about the truth in this tragic story" [SUP][33][/SUP]
 
#49
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It wouldn't surprise me if John Ziegler is a pedophile himself.
 

brucefan

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#51
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Ziegler interviewed Sandusky from prison and debuted some of that interview live on the Today Show on March 25, 2013. Ziegler steadfastly maintains that Sandusky was a "chaste pedophile" and committed no sexual acts with his victims.[SUP][31][/SUP] Ziegler, who initially said he believed Sandusky was guilty of the crimes he was accused of, now believes that Sandusky is innocent.[SUP][32][/SUP] Ziegler's prison interview with Sandusky came under fire by the Paterno family. Paterno family attorney Wick Sollers released a statement, describing it as "transparently self-serving and yet another insult to the victims and anyone who cares about the truth in this tragic story" [SUP][33][/SUP]
John and the Paterno family have had their battles because John blames Scott for much of how this whole thing spiraled out of contol .

Scott of course just wants to cover his ass and make this all disapear
 

brucefan

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#52
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Sue Paterno Responds To NCAA’s Assertions After Paternos Dropped Lawsuit 0 By Steve Connelly on July 1, 2017 at 4:05 pm News, Sandusky Scandal


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Following Friday’s announcement that the Paterno family dropped its lawsuit against the NCAA over its use of the Freeh report, both Sue Paterno and the NCAA expressed thoughts on the matter.
Paterno explained that the family had achieved all it needed to — helping to reverse the NCAA’s sanctions against Penn State and bring Joe Paterno back his wins that made him the all-time winningest coach in Division I college football.
“Our goal has always been to uncover and make transparent the full truth. We have done all we can in this litigation to achieve that end and the furtherance of it beyond this point will not yield anything new, which is why I have decided to end my litigation with the NCAA,” Sue Paterno said in the statement.
The NCAA, however, had a different theory for why the Paternos were not moving forward with the lawsuit.
“Its decision today, after years of investigation and discovery, to abandon its lawsuit rather than subject those facts to courtroom examination is telling,” NCAA chief legal officer Donald Remy said in a statement. ” We believe that the powerful record developed during discovery overwhelmingly confirmed what the NCAA has believed all along: the NCAA acted reasonably in adopting the conclusions of an eight-month investigation by Louis Freeh.”

Sue Paterno responded to the NCAA’s claims on Saturday, saying “The NCAA’s implication that the litigation was ceased out of a fear of discovery being revealed is absurd on its face. At every stage of this litigation we have sought to make a complete record available. As recently as three weeks ago, the NCAA successfully kept the evidence in this matter under seal.”
Because of the crucial evidence under seal, Paterno did not believe more information could surface. She also cited the “financial burden” of funding this case as another reason for dropping the lawsuit.
You can read Sue Paterno’s full statement below:
Less than a month ago, Pennsylvania Auditor General Eugene DePasquale announced the findings of his independent report into events at Penn State, including matters involving the NCAA. In that report the Auditor General concluded that the Freeh report was paid for advocacy, a person arguably “hired to do (the board’s) bidding.” He also concluded that the NCAA was an organization just this side of FIFA and the IOC in terms of corruption. More specifically, he stated that the NCAA’s actions manifested an apparent “vendetta” against Penn State. That vendetta, and the NCAA’s propensity to distort matters to improve its image, once again manifested itself in its statement yesterday.
The NCAA’s implication that the litigation was ceased out of a fear of discovery being revealed is absurd on its face. At every stage of this litigation we have sought to make a complete record available. As recently as three weeks ago, the NCAA successfully kept the evidence in this matter under seal. It was this reality – that we could not make these records available for public inspection – coupled with the financial burden of private individuals facing a billion dollar entity with limitless funds that prompted the ending of the litigation.
In my statement yesterday, I sought to bring some closure after this became apparent. The tone of that statement was neither petty nor bitter, and it was our hope for that to be the last we said on it. But given the NCAA’s statement we felt this response was necessary.
So, with that in mind, we wish to make the following clear: we do not oppose the complete release of the discovery in this case, and support any effort for that record to be made public in its entirety. We have seen enough half-truths in this matter, a complete record of all discovery would be welcome.
 

brucefan

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#53
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Do you think they settled for 3 milli a pop because Sandusky was innocent?

They didnt care . They were in damage control and panic mode . The board of trustee basically admitted guilt firing Joe, and Scott Paterno knowing nothing , setting up a prayer vigil for the 'victims' Then the media firestorm insued and it was over . Open checkbook time for anyone that even passed Jerry in the hallway over at the second mile
 
#55
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Do you support John Ziegler when claims he knows for a fact Jerry Sandusky is innocent and "it's not even close"? And now he has concocted some conspiracy that there is a real pedophile that framed Jerry and again, he knows it for a fact and "it's not even debatable". Is there evidence Jerry is 100% innocent and somebody else molested these kids?
 
#56
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My position has always been the same and it is measured and reasonable. Legitimate questions about this whole fiasco and whether there are some fake accusers and whether JoPa was unfairly blamed. No problem having a new trial and sorting out the truth. But nobody in their right mind would declare it all a hoax and nothing happened and Jerry is only a "chaste pedophile" who never acted out on his fantasies. That is batshit. John Ziegler is a fucking clown.
 

brucefan

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#58
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My position has always been the same and it is measured and reasonable. Legitimate questions about this whole fiasco and whether there are some fake accusers and whether JoPa was unfairly blamed. No problem having a new trial and sorting out the truth. But nobody in their right mind would declare it all a hoax and nothing happened and Jerry is only a "chaste pedophile" who never acted out on his fantasies. That is batshit. John Ziegler is a fucking clown.
Fair enough. I agree that any reasonable person who looks at what happened here would understand Jerry deserves a new fair trial, in front of an unbiased jury, where actual evidence should be presented and victims interrogated and questioned . Im fine with that although as I have stated, I do believe based on my research that he is innocent . The whole "cover up" scenerio , as well as Joe's involvement has ALREADY been thouroughly disproven and discredited , yet the media and most in the public still believes that horseshit.

My question is instead of personally attacking John, why not just evauate him on his work ? NO ONE , has worked harder to investgate this case then him.

He as never used the term "chaste pedophille" when describing Jerry . Jerry was as John does describe him
, a dumb dufess who was an old school guy with yes, boundry issues

He was not pedophile in my opinion.
 
#59
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Because John Ziegler is an arrogant Never Trump cuck who accepts the whole Russia Russia Russia hoax by the media but then turns around and says the media helped frame Jerry. If Jerry is innocent then so is Trump. The media can't even find the email hacker which would be equivalent to Victim #1. There is literally shaking nothing! If there was something, you can be sure it would have been leaked by the Washington Piss.

Give Jerry a new trial and let Roger Stone testify (in public). Compromise!
 

brucefan

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#60
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Well said St. Louis sports-talk radio host Kevin Slaten


From The King (Kevin Slaten) on Paterno lawsuit and Penn State.
Sue Paterno and her family have dropped their lawsuit against the NCAA. While disappointing, the reasons are real. First, and most importantly, the corrupt NCAA got a ruling in its favor by the equally corrupt legal system that allows them to keep records sealed. For God's sake, why would you want records sealed if you're innocent? Paramount to the Paterno's case was transparency. They wanted the truth to come ou...t. Since the courts allowed the NCAA to hide what it's done like the cowards they are, why continue? Already, the Paterno suit and others have forced the NCAA to rescind all penalties assessed against Penn St. and JoePa. That, folks, is what we call TOTAL VICTORY!!! In addition, the NCAA played stall ball, forcing the Paterno family to spend tens of thousands of dollars to continue the fight. The Paternos already won. It was proven when, after they dropped the suit, the NCAA did its best impression of Nazi Germany propaganda when it claimed victory. Excuse me? You're bragging about rescinding ALL penalties you illegally assessed? Interesting, Josef Goebbels! The NCAA proved it is what it's always been. A rogue operation run by arrogant, incompetent mob lords who, for some reason, targeted the one program that did things the right way. It will always be a mystery as to why. They were dead wrong, it was proven so, and it doesn't matter what they say. To Penn Staters, I've never seen a group of people who care more passionately about their university. Hold your heads high. There's plenty to be proud of in taking down that organized crime group known as the NCAA.
 

raycabino

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Bruce, why did the defense settle for 3 milli a pop if they are so innocent?
 

brucefan

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Bruce, why did the defense settle for 3 milli a pop if they are so innocent?
Thats a great question

The answer comes from everyones motivation in the case. When Penn State bot fired Joe, they basically admitted guilt based on bull shit allegations . After that they were in panic damage control mode, and only wanted to appear to do the right thing . Of couse actually questioning a victim as to a claim, would have been suicide after the media firestorm that was created.

So the goal was make this go away
Of course then they find Freeh who was a hired gun who conducted and "investigtion ' basically to support a predetermined outcome

This is pretty obvious when there was a simultanious investigation going on by the govt by Snedden , which Freeh wanted nothing to do with

http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2013/08/irony-psu-bot-settles-with-victims-to.html

John Ziegler & Kevin Slaten Expose the Absurdity of Sandusky

Blehar on How PSU is Using the Sandusky Settlements For Own Purposes



PA State Senator Takes PSU BOT to the Woodshed Over Handling of Sandusky Settlements
John Ziegler Rips Sandusky Settlements on KDKA in Pittsburgh

Ray Blehar on Why the First PSU Settlement is Totally Bogus
 
#65
Here is your proof, Bruce

Here is your proof, Bruce

[FONT=&quot]Jerry Sandusky was arrested in 2011, and subsequently found guilty of 45 counts of criminal behavior against children[/FONT]
 
#67
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I'll say this. I wish everybody was like you and Ziegler with this Russia hacked the election hoax. We are waiting to see the proof except CNN. 17 intelligence agencies (it was 3) saying it happened is proof enough.
 
#68
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I'm not sure what, other than the HD videotapes, would be enough for you. 12 jurors looked at the evidence with the defense having an opportunity to rebut and unanimously voted guilty 45 times. That's quite a feat by the prosecution with no proof. Have another trial with another Dream Team if that is what it will take. Release and examine all the records. Cross examine every accuser thoroughly. And if Jerry's found guilty again, that's it. It's over. Would that convince you?
 

brucefan

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#69
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I'm not sure what, other than the HD videotapes, would be enough for you. 12 jurors looked at the evidence with the defense having an opportunity to rebut and unanimously voted guilty 45 times. That's quite a feat by the prosecution with no proof. Have another trial with another Dream Team if that is what it will take. Release and examine all the records. Cross examine every accuser thoroughly. And if Jerry's found guilty again, that's it. It's over. Would that convince you?


How about one, any of them, saying anything to anyone other then they all loved Jerry until they were offered money

No notes, no recordings, no dna, no pornography, no 3rd party sightings, no diaries, no voice mails , or maybe proof one them was homosexual ( Jerry certainly wasnt )

How much evidence was there when they found a real pedophile, mr subway guy ? They guy had so much against him he was nailed every which way to sunday, his wife ran, and he admitted it .

That jury was as polluted as there ever was, and the defense bulled over by the firestorm
 

brucefan

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MONDAY, JULY 10, 2017

Penn State Confidential: U.S. Attorney, FBI Investigated Second Mile Charity And Came Up With A Big "Nothing Burger"


By Ralph Cipriano
for BigTrial.net

For years, Penn State alumni have clamored for a federal investigation of The Second Mile charity founded by convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky.

It turns out that the U.S. Attorney's office and the FBI have already conducted a federal investigation of The Second Mile. It's an investigation that's apparently been closed since at least 2014, with the result that no charges were ever filed.

In response to FOI requests filed by Ryan Bagwell, a former newspaper reporter and unsuccessful candidate for Penn State trustee, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, D.C. released some 1,000 pages of documents from the closed files of The Second Mile probe.

What's the bottom line?

"It's a big nothing burger," said John Snedden, a former NCIS and FIS special agent who just got through reviewing the documents. "There was an investigation and there was nothing to pursue, and no charges were filed."

Most of the notes in the released files appear to be FBI interviews conducted in 2012 with Second Mile board members in both the State College office and other regional offices. The interviews described how Second Mile board members reacted to the Sandusky revelations dating back to as early as 2010 and 2011.

"Not a single person admitted to knowing about Sandusky's crimes prior to the presentment," Snedden said. Two people claim to know about "missing donor money," but nothing else is said about that subject in the rest of the released files.

The documents released by the feds are heavily redacted, but there are many references to Second Mile board members circling the wagons. References were made in the documents to false allegations being made by a "disgruntled mother" and a "disgruntled kid."

The documents are more noticeable for what they don't say. Such as in the issue of jurisdiction involving the Sandusky investigation. If, for example, in their investigation of The Second Mile, if the feds any found any evidence of a federal crime, such as Sandusky crossing state lines with sex abuse victims, "They would have taken it [the investigation] away from the state for prosecution," Snedden said.

"But they [the feds] didn't do any of that," Snedden said after reviewing the documents. "There's no indication they did that."

Instead, the attorney general pursued the Sandusky investigation, and the feds pursued The Second File.

"Sadly, neither focused on political vindictiveness and corruption, which is exactly what happened here," Snedden said.

Snedden has his own experience with a previous secret federal investigation into the Penn State scandal. In 2012, working as a special agent for the Federal Investigative Services, Snedden did a background investigation of former Penn State President Graham Spanier, to see if Spanier's high level security clearance should be renewed by the government.

As part of that investigation, Snedden investigated whether Spanier had orchestrated a coverup of Sandusky's crimes. Snedden's investigation concluded that there was no cover up at Penn State, because there was no sex crime to cover up. As far as Snedden was concerned, Mike McQueary, the guy who witnessed a naked Sandusky allegedly abusing a boy in the Penn State showers, was not a credible witness.

Spanier's clearance was renewed as the result of an 110-page report that Snedden wrote back in 2012, a report that was declassified earlier this year.


In the investigation of The Second Mile, the released files include copies of FBI interviews with eight witnesses whose identities are redacted. The interviews are recorded on FBI "302s," the number of the form that interview summaries were typed on by FBI agents.

"I see a lot of interviews with a lot of different people, a wide range of positions in the Second Mile hierarchy," Snedden said. "And I don't see any people admitting to knowing anything concrete about Sandusky."

In the interviews, there are quotes from woman who "had always heard positive things about the organization. She had never heard anything bad about TSM founder Jerry Sandusky."

Another woman interviewed by the FBI described Sandusky's "nondescript entrance and presence" at a March 25, 2011 "Celebration of Excellence" event in Hershey.

"Sandusky was not acknowledged during the event formally by TSM," the woman told the FBI.

"On March 31, 2011, the Patriot News published an article about the grand jury investigation" of Sandusky," the woman told the FBI. "The article was everywhere and everyone was talking about it."

"She didn't recall seeing any evidence of financial improprieties or anything otherwise questionable," the FBI 302 stated. "She did not personally observe any misuse of donations."

"The general mood of the room was that of denial," the woman told the FBI. "Everyone appeared to be in support of Sandusky and TSM."

In another 302, an unidentified witness said, "He did not observe any inappropriate behavior." On the same form, someone, possibly Sandusky himself stated the complainant "was a disgruntled kid, not associated with TSM. He was not aware at the time that the allegation was sexual in nature"

Another 302 notes that one board member was "shocked after reading the indictment." In addition, "four or five board members in particular were upset that they were never notified. The exchange was heated."

In the 302s, there was discussion of an earlier 1998 allegation that Sandusky had abused another youth in the shower, but "the allegations were considered 'unfounded.'"

There is also discussion in the 302s about an alleged allegation involving the Clinton County Children and Youth Services[CYS].

"CYS did have a safety plan in the event a child was a victim of sexual abuse," the 302 stated. "They did not need to enact their safety plan for SANDUSKY's case because the allegation was not founded and all actions taken by CYS were 'by the book.' "

Bagwell said he has filed multiple FOI requests as part of his Penn State Sunshine Fund. Bagwell, a former newspaper reporter who is now a web developer, said he filed his requests because he was seeking primary source documents from the Sandusky investigation.

"What frustrated me about everything since the very beginning was a complete and utter lack of transparency," Bagwell said.


In his court battle with the U.S. Attorney's office, Bagwell said, the feds indicated that there were some 300,000 pages of documents related to The Second Mile investigation. The feds only released 1,000 pages and "withheld tends of thousands more for reasons not apparent at this time," Bagwell said.

Bagwell, himself a former journalist, said the press coverage of the scandal has been "abysmal, reactionary and sensationalistic," as well as "factually incorrect." Bagwell said he hopes the newly released documents will have a calming effect on Penn State Nation.

"Penn Staters are still screaming for an investigation for years of The Second Mile," Bagwell said. "Well, it turns out there was an investigation."


"My overall view is that everything here [in the documents] seems to support the idea that The Second Mile didn't knowingly do anything wrong," Bagwell said. "The Penn Staters who are clamoring for heads at The Second Mile to roll, I don't think that's an outcome that's appropriate at this point in time."



POSTED BY RALPH CIPRIANO AT 7:56 PM
TRIAL: PENN STATE SEX ABUSE SCANDAL



Read more at http://www.bigtrial.net/2017/07/penn-state-confidential-us-attorney-fbi.html#GdSgM0JrfJROOrSD.99
 

brucefan

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WTF is a bloke?

excellent article, exposes incompetence, corruption & facts provided by JZ from start of this witch hunt



Friday, July 14, 2017

Bob Costas And Sara Ganim Star In Jerry Sandusky's Appeal


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By Ralph Cipriano
for BigTrial.net

Fifteen minutes.

That's how much advance notice Jerry Sandusky got from his lawyer, Joseph Amendola, before he engaged in a disastrous nationally televised interview with Bob Costas.

Amendola also did nothing to prep Sandusky for talking with Costas, Sandusky's appeal lawyers say. That disastrous 2011 interview was replayed in court by the prosecutors, who proceeded to rip Sandusky for talking to Costas, but not the jury. Sandusky was subsequently convicted and sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison.

The idiocy of the Costas interview was described in a 257-page post-hearing brief filed Thursday in Centre County Common Pleas Court by Sandusky's appeal lawyers, Alexander H. Lindsay Jr. and J. Andrew Salemme, of Butler, PA.

Lindsay and Salemme argue that Sandusky deserves a new trial because Amendola foolishly chose to go on national TV and give up his client's right to remain silent and not convict himself. Amendola went on Costas's TV show in a misguided campaign to cultivate "friends" in the media, Sandusky's appeal lawyers write. Amendola told a judge he embarked on his campaign because at the time the media was saying that his client was "worse than Adolph Hitler."

Even with the language barrier, however, it's doubtful that Hitler would have been as flat-footed as Sandusky was during the Costas interview.

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In the interview, Costas asked Sandusky if he was sexually attracted to young boys.

Sandusky repeated the question a couple of times, before saying, "I -- I love to be around them . . I -- I -- but no, I'm not sexually attracted to young boys."

In their appeal brief, Sandusky's lawyers argue that the Costas debacle wasn't all Jerry's fault. It was editing by NBC that made it appear "that there was repetition of the infamous question and answer regarding Mr. Sandusky being sexually attracted to young boys," the lawyers write.

Amendola admitted that the Costas interview presented at trial had the "same effect as a police interview," except that Amendola was powerless on TV to stop the questioning, Sandusky's lawyers write.

In their brief, Sandusky's lawyers quote another criminal defense attorney, James Bryant, as saying he would have only agreed to the Costas interview if they put "a gun to my head."

That interview "killed" Sandusky, Bryant said. Especially when it was played at trial.

At trial, Sandusky's lawyers said, the prosecutors "sought to fix a bias and hostility against Mr. Sandusky in the jury's minds based on the fact that Mr. Sandusky was willing to talk to the media about his case, but he did not take the stand to talk to the jury directly."

Sandusky's lawyers cited the Fifth Amendment that says no person "shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself."

Except if he voluntarily decides to waive that privilege, by going on national TV.

Prior to the Costas interview, Sandusky's lawyers write, Amendola told Sandusky that only Amendola would be interviewed by Costas. And that if Sandusky was interviewed, the only thing he would have to say was that "he was innocent."

The short notice to Sandusky was disclosed by the host of Rock Center, Sandusky's lawyers say.

"Bob Costas, himself, provided an interview in which he recalled that Mr. Amendola only contacted Mr. Sandusky 15 minutes before the interview," Sandusky's lawyers write.

Sandusky originally wasn't even supposed to appear on the show. At the time, in his campaign to win friends in the media, Amendola had promised to do his first interview with Costas. But then the lawyer gave an interview to CNN.

An NBC producer "voiced strong displeasure" after the CNN interview, Sandusky's lawyers write.

"In order to make up for this and ingratiate himself with the media again, Mr. Amendola convinced Mr. Sandusky to do the interview" with Costas, Sandusky's lawyers write. Aamendola told Sandusky the Costas interview would provide a "golden opportunity" to proclaim that he was innocent.

In their appeal brief, Sandusky's lawyers also fault Amendola for failing to move to quash the grand jury charges against Sandusky because of illegal grand jury leaks.

Amendola was aware that former Patriot News reporter Sara Ganim "had the name and phone number of an agent involved in the investigation and was providing it to potential witnesses," but did nothing to investigate, Sandusky's lawyers write.

Ganim wrote the first story about the supposedly secret Sandusky grand jury investigation, on March 30, 2011, so somebody in the know was obviously leaking grand jury secrets to her. In that article, Ganim cited a prior 1998 investigation into another Sandusky shower incident. Somebody had obviously leaked to Ganim a police report from the prior 1998 case that had turned up no crime, and was supposed to be expunged.

In their brief, Sandusky's lawyers write that Ganim "approached the mother of accuser 6," Deb McCord, according to the testimony of State Police Corporal Joseph Leiter, and gave the mother the name and phone number for an investigator assigned to the attorney general's office.

Ganim, according to the brief, had a message for McCord:

"Debra, it's Sara from the Patriot. I just want to pass along this agent's name and number. The Attorney General has expressed interest in helping you."

Sandusky's lawyers say the trial judge was at fault of not allowing the defense to call Ganim as a witness, so they could ask about the grand jury leaks.

After the initial Ganim article, Ronald Petrosky, a retired Penn State janitor, came forward to accuse
Sandusky of another shower incident.

At the Sandusky trial, prosecutors were allowed to present hearsay evidence via Ronald Petrosky that another retired janitor, James Calhoun, had allegedly "observed Jerry Sandusky molesting a child in the Lasch Building shower."

Sandusky's appeal lawyers fault trial lawyer Amendola for not telling the jury that 13 months prior to the trial, Calhoun had given a taped interview to a state trooper where he denied that it was Sandusky he saw in the shower having sex with a boy.

At trial, however, Sandusky was found guilty of abusing "victim 8," identity unknown. Sandusky's appeal lawyers also faulted Amendola for not objecting when prosecutor Joseph McGettigan told the jury that the identity of Victim No. 2 -- the boy Mike McQueary had allegedly witnessed being anally raped in the showers by Sandusky -- was "known only to God."

At the time, the prosecutors knew that Allan Myers had claimed to be the boy in the showers with Sandusky, and had not denied it, Sandusky's lawyers write. Myers told state troopers that he and Sandusky were snapping towels in the shower, which could have accounted for the "slapping sounds" heard by McQueary.

Myers told corporal Corporal Jospeh Leiter and Trooper James Ellis in 2011 that "The grand jury report says Coach McQuearry said he observed Jerry and I engaged in sexual activity. This is not the truth and McQueary is not telling the truth. Nothing occurred that night in the shower."

But Amendola was so incompetent he never presented Myers's statements to the jury, Sandusky's appeal lawyers write.

In their brief, Sandusky's lawyers also hit Amendola for not presenting any expert witness testimony "regarding repressed or false memories" of the alleged victims.

Amendola knew about recordings "showing suggestive police questioning and learning that therapy was used to enhance the memories of the accusers," Sandusky's lawyers write. Yet, Amendola did not challenge "the reliability of the accusers or present expert testimony on suggestive questioning" by police and therapists.

In their brief, Sandusky's lawyers quote the testimony of Dr. Elizabeth Loftus, a renowned expert on memory.

In an appeal hearing, Loftus testified that Aaron Fisher, Victim No. 1 in the Sandusky case, "had a therapist who appeared to have convinced his patient that he had repressed memories of abuse."

Aaron Fisher "did undergo a type of repressed memory therapy . . . designed to get people to remember things that somebody thinks they have repressed or forgotten," Loftus testified.

There is "no credible scientific evidence" to support the theory of massive repression of traumatic memories, and subsequent recovery of those repressed memories, Sandusky's lawyers write.

The theory of repressed memory "is so controversial that in many other jurisdictions, accusers who claim to have repressed meormies that have been recovered, the cases are even dismissed because of the controversial nature of that theory," Loftus testified.

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In their brief, Sandusky's lawyers quote Silent No More, the book written by Fisher with his therapist, Mike Gillum.

Prior to therapy, Fisher "never acknowledged any sexual abuse" by Sandusky, his lawyers write. Fisher's book "suggests Gillum used suggestive questioning to ferret out Mr. Sandusky's alleged abuse," Sandusky's lawyers write.

The lawyers quote Fisher from Silent No More: "Mike [Gillum] just kept saying that Jerry was the exact profile of a predator. When it finally sank in, I felt angry."

The Sandusky brief also cites "pervasive and virulent" publicity during the Sandusky case. The trial attracted 240 reporters and 30 TV trucks.


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#74
Re: Federal Agent: No Sex Scandal At Penn State, Just A "Political Hit Job

SEPTEMBER 5, 2017 Franco Harris: Graham Spanier Trial, Jail Sentence A Ridiculous Farce


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By Ralph Cipriano
for BigTrial.net

Franco Harris thinks that former Penn State University President Graham Spanier got screwed.

Harris, 67, the former Penn State star and NFL Hall of Famer with the Pittsburgh Steelers, went on John Ziegler's "World According To Zig" podcast on Sunday to describe the trial and subsequent jail sentence of Spanier as a ridiculous farce.

"They had this secret witness who was guarded by 1,000 police take the stand," Harris said, laughing. "It was a farce, it was staged."

Harris was referring to the Dauphin County trial of Spanier last March, when Judge John A. Boccabella had a phalanx of extra sheriff's deputies patrolling the courtroom while the judge introduced 28-year-old Michal Kajak to the jury as "John Doe."

Kajak, who testified as a sex abuse victim of Jerry Sandusky's, proceeded to sob on cue. Only the jury was never told about the sex abuse that Kajak allegedly suffered. It wasn't rape; Kajak was allegedly soaped up in the shower by Sandusky, for which Kajak collected in a civil settlement $8 million.

And when Kajak got through his direct testimony, with the help of some Kleenex, the cowed defense lawyers in the case were too intimidated to ask Kajak a single question. Even though Kajak, a shaky witness at best, had given four different dates for the alleged shower incident, varying from 1998 to 2001, when he was between 10 and 14 years old.

In the Kangaroo Court of Judge Boccabella, this was all the evidence that was needed to send a man up the river. Spanier was promptly convicted of endangering the welfare of a child, and the judge sentenced him to 4 to 12 months in jail.

"That was so ridiculous," Harris said about the jail sentence. "So once again we see the political system at work here with the Attorney General's office. That was a farce."

About the prosecution's case against Spanier, Harris said, "They showed nothing, they had nothing. It was all an emotional appeal to the jury."

"This judge was just ridiculous," Harris said. And then there was the Attorney General's office.

Short of an acquittal on all the charges, "This is the second best verdict we could have had," Harris said, because the jury found Spanier innocent of a second endangerment charge, as well as a charge of conspiracy.

"And the Attorney General's office tried to make it . . . like they had this big victory," Harris said.

"And of course the media lapped it up," Ziegler chimed in. "The media is so dumb. Anything that substantiates their fairy tale narrative they embrace."

Ziegler asked Harris, a longtime defender of former Coach Joe Paterno, if he believed that Sandusky was innocent.

"There will always be questions about that because a lot of them [the alleged victims] weren't even vetted," Harris said. "Penn State ended up playing all the money [$93 million to 32 alleged victims] and Penn State didn't even take the time to vet anyone."

In Harris's view, his former coach got tarred and feathered.


"When the news broke about Jerry and the allegations [came out] against Jerry," Harris said, "That should have never led to the firing of Joe Paterno. There should not have been any connection whatsoever."

Harris said he would continue the fight to clear Paterno's name.

"We have to get the story out, we want to educate Penn Staters," he said. He expects "this HBO movie" starring Al Pacino to stir things up again.

"There are things that we're gonna have to do to really get our side of the story out," Harris said. "That's going to be very important, to get our side of the story out."

"We will continuing fighting and never stop."

On the podcast, Harris said he was reading an advance copy of Mark Pendergrast's book on the Penn State sex scandal, "The Most Hated Man In America; Jerry Sandusky and The Rush To Judgment," which has been excerpted several times on Big Trial.

"It definitely makes you question some things," Harris said about Pendergrast's book. "It definitely isn't over."

Elsewhere, on the podcast, Harris talked bout the upcoming football season. He pronounced Penn State's Saquon Barkley "the real deal." And revealed how he changed his diet 17 years ago to include blueberries and fish oil in hopes of healing his brain from all the concussions he's had on the gridiron.

Harris also panned former NFL QB Colin Kaepernick for his social activism.

"When he puts that suit on it is not just about him and his position," Harris said. "The team has to come first."

The entire podcast can be heard here.
 
#75
Re: Federal Agent: No Sex Scandal At Penn State, Just A "Political Hit Job

Nobody Alan Karres, brucey. You can continue posting John Ziegler crap. Doesn't matter to me. Just a friendly tip.
 
#76
Re: Federal Agent: No Sex Scandal At Penn State, Just A "Political Hit Job

My question is instead of personally attacking John, why not just evauate him on his work ? NO ONE , has worked harder to investgate this case then him.

He as never used the term "chaste pedophille" when describing Jerry . Jerry was as John does describe him
, a dumb dufess who was an old school guy with yes, boundry issues
Lies.

John Ziegler posted on his website:

http://www.framingpaterno.com/victi...ied-about-joe-paterno-hardly-anyone-will-care



That then leaves us with only Aaron Fisher as an even theoretically totally credible victim who testified (after a couple of failed attempts in the grand jury) to an actual sex act with Sandusky. As I have outlined in this video which makes the case that Sandusky was a “chaste pedophile” and was grossly overcharged, there are many other reasons to question Fisher’s story, which I believe may have been coerced out of him by the therapist who co-wrote his book.


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Here's the video if you want to watch it instead of making inaccurate posts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLVpbe9oXQ
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
#79
Re: Federal Agent: No Sex Scandal At Penn State, Just A "Political Hit Job

Lies.

John Ziegler posted on his website:

http://www.framingpaterno.com/victi...ied-about-joe-paterno-hardly-anyone-will-care



That then leaves us with only Aaron Fisher as an even theoretically totally credible victim who testified (after a couple of failed attempts in the grand jury) to an actual sex act with Sandusky. As I have outlined in this video which makes the case that Sandusky was a “chaste pedophile” and was grossly overcharged, there are many other reasons to question Fisher’s story, which I believe may have been coerced out of him by the therapist who co-wrote his book.


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Here's the video if you want to watch it instead of making inaccurate posts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLVpbe9oXQ
Well, I stand corrected . However that was 2013. Lots have changed and evolved since then

Dear Dell Dude

You do realize Ralph Cipriano is not John right?
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
#80
Re: Federal Agent: No Sex Scandal At Penn State, Just A "Political Hit Job

Monday, September 18, 2017

State Attorney General's Office Tries To Keep Sandusky Probe Secret

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By Ralph Cipriano
for BigTrial.net

What do you do when you screw up royally?

If you're the state Attorney General's office, you try to keep a top secret lid on everything, even if its years after they put Jerry Sandusky in jail.

That's what our A.G.'s office is up to. On June 28th, Jennifer C. Selber, executive deputy attorney general, wrote Assistant U.S. Attorney D. Brian Simpson in Harrisburg, about all of the files the A.G. turned over to the feds three years ago from the state's grand jury investigation of Sandusky.

Selber's concern was that the U.S. Attorney's office not turn any of the A.G.'s records in response to a long-running FOI battle being waged by Ryan Bagwell, a former newspaper reporter and candidate for Penn State trustee. When Bagwell couldn't get any records out of the state, he filed FOI requests with the U.S. Attorney's office in 2014, and so far has recouped some 1,000 pages of documents.

The A.G.'s office wants to make sure no further documents are released.

"Initially, it must be understood that the investigation of Sandusky PSU and TSM [The Second Mile] was done through two Statewide Investigating Grand Juries," Selber wrote. "As such, all of the materials gathered by the OAG and provided to your Office were subject to grand jury secrecy."

The state attorney general turned over their Sandusky records when they asked the U.S. Attorney's office to investigate Penn State and The Second Mile, Sandusky's defunct charity, for "financial irregularities and possible Clery Act violations" stemming from the state's grand jury probe of Sandusky. The Clery Act mandates transparency when it comes to reporting crime on campus.

The feds closed the investigation in 2014, without any tangible results.

Under Pennsylvania law, the state is allowed to turn over records from an investigation "only if the agency is investigating a crime within its jurisdiction and the person to whom disclosure is made are sworn to grand jury secrecy," Selber wrote. She asked that the records turned over to the feds under an FOI request remain secret and "confidentiality be maintained."

Bagwell says he's determined to see this battle through to the end, "no matter how long it takes."

"There's virtually no public access to records from police investigations in Pennsylvania," Bagel said. "They're not used to the idea of having their investigations scrutinized."

Bagel says if the records are eventually released, they "might reveal some interesting things that suggest the original grand jury presentment should have never been written in the way it was."

As previously reported on this blog, the grand jury report on Sandusky was built around an event that didn't happen, an anal rape of a naked 10-year-old boy by Sandusky, supposedly witnessed by Mike McQueary in the Penn State showers back in 2001.

However, four men who interviewed McQueary said he didn't witness a sexual attack. Even McQueary agrees he never saw an anal rape, as he stated in writing in an email to the state attorney general's office.

A federal official, former Special Agent John Snedden, also investigated the alleged shower rape as part of an investigation of former Penn State President Graham Spanier. Snedden concluded in a recently declassified 110-page report done in 2012 that McQueary was not a credible witness, no sex crime was committed at Penn State, and hence, no cover up, since there was nothing to cover up.

During the state attorney general's investigation, a couple of state troopers were caught on a tape recorder lying to an alleged victim of sex abuse about hearing the same story from several other alleged victims, even though it wasn't true.

"Obviously the AG is doing everything it can to make sure that people don't have the opportunity to review the facts versus the presentment," Snedden said.


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