Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Interesting.

BTW, 2005 was a bitch of a year for everyone in the modeling biz. So FEZ wasn't out of step then. This year's FEZ train wreck is opposed by everyone including Squares cleaning up.

Yes. As I wrote in response to Fezzik's brother on RTP, I defended Fezzik's poor results in 2005 as a possible short term aberration, as "everyone" lost that year, he'd done pretty well the few years previous, and even though he sold picks on SSB and LVA, he hadn't yet gotten involved in any tout-esque nonsense aside from a late season Yosh. But after hitting about 48% over a 4 year period, you can no longer claim "short term bad luck."
 
Re: If JK had bothered to attend my overpriced Seminar he was comped to..........

Re: If JK had bothered to attend my overpriced Seminar he was comped to..........

He would have learned that a KEY evaluation of your abilities in major liquid sports is how well your plays do VS. THE CLOSING NUMBER.

I don't give a crap about 3-15, 15-6, 51-22 runs.

LOL. How many times were you boasting on Twitter, LVA, EOG about your 53-23 run in WNBA or whatever the hell it was. You've hit about 48% over your last 4 years of posting service plays, which is probably at least 800 plays, if not more. Do you know the chance of even a 53% handicapper going on an extended run like that?

remember I'm the guy that warned everyone after 66% Hilton back to back years that is was "an aberration....no one hits over 55% in the NFL longterm sides".

You could have also warned them "nobody can actually bet into the Hilton's contest numbers," which is how you hit 48% on service plays the second year you won the Hilton.
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Here's a simple, clear cut example of what an asshole Fezzik is, and by extension, his brother. In Dec 2009, Fezzik showed up on SSB to mock their handicappers for poor performance and boasted of his "55% site." Poster Dreamer, a long time poster to SSB and the old LVA board, asked where Fezzik's record was documented. Fezzik said "it's not documented, but I welcome you to do so."

Dreamer compiled the record and discovered Fezzik had actually hit closer to 48% and posted a full record of Fezzik's posted picks. Anthony Curtis promptly banned Dreamer from LVA and accused him of compiling the record when he was unauthorized to do so, even though Fezzik invited him to do so. (You can still see the post inviting Dreamer to compile the record on SSB's "General Forum" from Dec 2009, and Dreamer's subsequent post with the record.)

Fezzik accused Dreamer of being a "Fezzik-hater" and most hilariously claimed the Hilton picks should be included, even though he specifically told his clients not to bet Hilton picks unless specifically told you.

Later, PerpetualCzech compiled the complete record of every pick posted to LVA and his results confirmed that Fezzik's true record was around 48%. PC's documentation included links to the specific thread where the pick was posted, so if Fezzik knew of picks that weren't included, he could have simply mentioned what the pick was and in which thread it appeared. But instead, he complained about "you left out my Hilton picks and Atlanta Hawks under season wins!" when anyone who looked at the documentation could see Atlanta Hawks season wins sitting right there.

Lying about his record was bad enough, but he threw Dreamer under the bus and continues to do so to this day even though he invited Dreamer to compile the record! Fezzik's brother, who's constantly shilling for Fezzik's tout service on Twitter, just tweeted "I don't see much hard evidence he lost in 2009. Just some guy "Dreamer" who claims to have tracked him but Fezzik disputes it."

Seriously, how much of an asshole do you have to be to throw the guy under the bus who you invited to compile your record because you didn't like your results? It's tantamount to extortion "You tell people I'm a winner, we're fine, you tell them I'm a loser, I'll ban you from my message board and spend the next few years smearing your name." In that single tweet alone, Fezzik's brother uses all sorts of loaded language, calling him "some guy" when he was a long time poster to SSB and LVA, putting his username in scare quotes, as if an English guy using a John Lennon reference of a username is any different than a guys named Fenic using a Princess Bride alias, and saying "Dreamer claims to have tracked Fezzik" when that "claim" was REQUESTED BY FEZZIK and the tracking was posted in its entirety to SSB.



 

Flamingo kid

Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

The 'Fezzik' obsession continues.

Its incredible to me that a 48% handicapper would get this many people following his every move, documenting his every pick, counting every piece of corn in his shit and counting every penny he leaves for a tip at restaurants.

Fezzik is a rock star from Mars and his groupies are just hoping for a sniff of his underwear as he walks by.
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

I like Fezzik 1st qtr plays, good stuff. also a likable guy and not just because he bought me lobster.

He stiffed me on the "dinner with Fezzik" I won on LVA and LVA staff eventually told me "haha, good one Fezz" when I asked them about it. I guess I needed to be some forum's "Douchebag of the Year" rather than being some other forum's "Fezzik ghost account."
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

The 'Fezzik' obsession continues.

Its incredible to me that a 48% handicapper would get this many people following his every move, documenting his every pick, counting every piece of corn in his shit and counting every penny he leaves for a tip at restaurants.

The only "obsessed" ones are the megalomaniac himself and his brother, constantly crowing about his prowess while flat out lying about his historic record and throwing a bunch of people under the bus. His brother must have made 20 tweets the last couple days boasting of Fezzik's abilities.

Hell, his brother started a blog where the second post was an attempt to discredit me for claiming that a $100 blackjack bettor would lose about 30 cents per hand after comps if playing perfect strategy, and I said that said recreational blackjack bettor would do a hell of a lot better than the same person investing in Fezzik's plays. He didn't even dispute the facts, he just made up a completely fraudulent premise that I claimed the typical $100 blackjack bettor plays perfect strategy. Who's the obsessed one?
 
Re: If JK had bothered to attend my overpriced Seminar he was comped to..........

Re: If JK had bothered to attend my overpriced Seminar he was comped to..........

LOL. How many times were you boasting on Twitter, LVA, EOG about your 53-23 run in WNBA or whatever the hell it was. You've hit about 48% over your last 4 years of posting service plays, which is probably at least 800 plays, if not more. Do you know the chance of even a 53% handicapper going on an extended run like that?

Using Binomial dist. assuming FEZ is a long term 53% punter, for exactly 800 picks (384-416) gives a z-score of 2.8 which happens about .03% of the time. So, for these results, the numbers say FEZ was not a 53% long term picker. Now the gold standard stat test is usually defined for a z of 3.0, so with these figures Fez can still make a few more bad picks before he hits that standard. These are all pretty round numbers, but it ain't looking good for the boy.
 

absolutvodka999

EOG Addicted
Re: If JK had bothered to attend my overpriced Seminar he was comped to..........

Re: If JK had bothered to attend my overpriced Seminar he was comped to..........

I don't give a crap about 3-15, 15-6, 51-22 runs.
says the guy who posted everywhere he could about big nba playoff runs etc. get the fuck outta here with your bs
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

The difference between Fezzik and guys that gained 'notoriety' as touts in the past is that Fezzik has always claimed to be legit. And had plenty of backers in his corner. SO basically fezzik had a bigger more 'reliable' network.

Plus fezzik local and 'reachable'. While guys like Feiner, Root, Feist, Lang (although he posted a bit in the past) dont dirty their names with the forum posting world. Fez relishes it (as long as he is doing well anyway)

So Fezzik wanted to be a man of the people, because they were the ones who helped push him along in the frst place.

Shrink, Fezzik, Diamond, Dr Bob (to some extent), and a few others who have changed their names all got their juice in the early poster board days. Before forums as they grew to be and are today even existed. That was the direction Shrink and Russ went, and they took a few of the characters with them. Devil, Sting, Peep (although he had a different name then but became Peep at RX). Some guys went and started their own books in CR or offshore. So it was a Garden of Eden of sorts. So it wasnt an instant network put into place overnight.

Anyone who was around back then saw how it grew. Shrink and Russ pimping and promoting books run by their buddies and cohorts. 99% of them complete stiff places. But ALL had been visited and accounted by Shrink and or Russ. But people ate it up because these guys were 'insiders' then they created or hired more 'insiders' to fool the masses.

So that morphed into plays form 'sharp guys' or inside tips on what big name gambler was playing. So more of these make believe guys like Fezzik, Krackman, Wong (who was a legit BJ player, but horrible sports better), and a few others I forget now came out and joined forces too. To be fair fezzik was always a drive by type guy but he sold his name to a few places to be sure, but he did stay out of the direct Russ and Shrink spotlight. But that didnt stop him from posting on those places because at he time the traffic was incredibly high and great exposure.

So it all started back on the AOL boards and Players Talk boards for the most part. Fezzik is basically the last of the 'big name' folk heroes left. Maybe because he still tries, maybe because he is still alive, or hasnt been put away. Maybe because he won a couple Hilton contests. But make no mistake if not for the explosion of the internet and forums and partly because of Shrink and Russ and how they changed the forum world Fezzik would be just another made up name on the top of a list of other names. But again to be 'fair' he showed enough 'ability' back then, or at least had a big enough following that he was invited to just about every local contest going as well. So was Fezzik the first Kardashian? Seemingly little or no talent but enough game to fool people into thinking they were famous? Gaining a cult following and manipulating that into other ventures?

Now again, Fezzik has won some 'prestigious' contests, so he does have that going for him. But did he win those because or in spite of himself?

But again, the reason why Fezzik gets so much on the boards, be it criticism, hatred, ass kissing or worship, it is because he has put himself smack in the middle of it., and really got his start on them.
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Great write up '4moi ^^^^^^.

You ought to write up a history of gambling in the internet age and sell the e-book. Maybe a few of these degenerates who can actually read, or spend any time away from being stoned, watching games, screaming at the TV while their picks lose, etc, might buy 5 copies.

...I'd buy one, though.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Great write up '4moi ^^^^^^.

You ought to write up a history of gambling in the internet age and sell the e-book. Maybe a few of these degenerates who can actually read, or spend any time away from being stoned, watching games, screaming at the TV while their picks lose, etc, might buy 5 copies.

...I'd buy one, though.

don't forget about porn. It is a degens "social interaction" via webcams.
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

The difference between Fezzik and guys that gained 'notoriety' as touts in the past is that Fezzik has always claimed to be legit. And had plenty of backers in his corner. SO basically fezzik had a bigger more 'reliable' network.

Plus fezzik local and 'reachable'. While guys like Feiner, Root, Feist, Lang (although he posted a bit in the past) dont dirty their names with the forum posting world. Fez relishes it (as long as he is doing well anyway)

So Fezzik wanted to be a man of the people, because they were the ones who helped push him along in the frst place.

Shrink, Fezzik, Diamond, Dr Bob (to some extent), and a few others who have changed their names all got their juice in the early poster board days. Before forums as they grew to be and are today even existed. That was the direction Shrink and Russ went, and they took a few of the characters with them. Devil, Sting, Peep (although he had a different name then but became Peep at RX). Some guys went and started their own books in CR or offshore. So it was a Garden of Eden of sorts. So it wasnt an instant network put into place overnight.

Anyone who was around back then saw how it grew. Shrink and Russ pimping and promoting books run by their buddies and cohorts. 99% of them complete stiff places. But ALL had been visited and accounted by Shrink and or Russ. But people ate it up because these guys were 'insiders' then they created or hired more 'insiders' to fool the masses.

So that morphed into plays form 'sharp guys' or inside tips on what big name gambler was playing. So more of these make believe guys like Fezzik, Krackman, Wong (who was a legit BJ player, but horrible sports better), and a few others I forget now came out and joined forces too. To be fair fezzik was always a drive by type guy but he sold his name to a few places to be sure, but he did stay out of the direct Russ and Shrink spotlight. But that didnt stop him from posting on those places because at he time the traffic was incredibly high and great exposure.

So it all started back on the AOL boards and Players Talk boards for the most part. Fezzik is basically the last of the 'big name' folk heroes left. Maybe because he still tries, maybe because he is still alive, or hasnt been put away. Maybe because he won a couple Hilton contests. But make no mistake if not for the explosion of the internet and forums and partly because of Shrink and Russ and how they changed the forum world Fezzik would be just another made up name on the top of a list of other names. But again to be 'fair' he showed enough 'ability' back then, or at least had a big enough following that he was invited to just about every local contest going as well. So was Fezzik the first Kardashian? Seemingly little or no talent but enough game to fool people into thinking they were famous? Gaining a cult following and manipulating that into other ventures?

Now again, Fezzik has won some 'prestigious' contests, so he does have that going for him. But did he win those because or in spite of himself?

But again, the reason why Fezzik gets so much on the boards, be it criticism, hatred, ass kissing or worship, it is because he has put himself smack in the middle of it., and really got his start on them.


Exactly

The Forum world is a stiff/scam backed world where wanabe's pretended to be important people in the sports betting world.

When in fact they are only running these sites to steal/scam unsuspecting bettors who thought these leaches were insiders.

The Forum world is filled with a lot of scammers/scum who figured out how to leach off the masses.

:btj:
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

don't forget about porn. It is a degens "social interaction" via webcams.

Porn? You see, here in Holland we see it as a normal way of life...

...you f*cked up Amerikans have screwed up a beautiful thing.
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Exactly

The Forum world is a stiff/scam backed world where wanabe's pretended to be important people in the sports betting world.

When in fact they are only running these sites to steal/scam unsuspecting bettors who thought these leaches were insiders.

The Forum world is filled with a lot of scammers/scum who figured out how to leach off the masses.

:btj:

Will you kindly tell me the difference between this and other business in the USA?

...your country is ALL ABOUT f*cking the masses.
 
J

joeybagadonuts

Guest
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Will you kindly tell me the difference between this and other business in the USA?

...your country is ALL ABOUT f*cking the masses.

Every business in the world is all about maximizing profits and fucking the masses. That's what capitalism is, pal. Hate to break it to ya, but its not just done in 'Merica! I saw plenty of 2-bit hustlers trying to scam tourists and the masses in your country as well, mainly the whores and bike renter guys.

:houra
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Every business in the world is all about maximizing profits and fucking the masses. That's what capitalism is, pal. Hate to break it to ya, but its not just done in 'Merica! I saw plenty of 2-bit hustlers trying to scam tourists and the masses in your country as well, mainly the whores and bike renter guys.

:houra

Yup, you're welcome. If you read your history, Joe-Bob, you'll see that Holland is the real Father of your capitalist system, not the fricken Brits. We invented the closest thing to your present day banking system, and in the 16-1700s we had the largest trading system in the world at that time; colonies all over the planet.

Santa Claus is a Dutch invention, as is baseball, and New Amsterdam (New York) is a former colony, and I can go on and on...

BTW, Amsterdam is acknowledged to be an "open" city. We run it to rip off you dumb-assed drug/sex tourists from Amerika especially.
 

FISHHEAD

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Every business in the world is all about maximizing profits and fucking the masses. That's what capitalism is, pal. Hate to break it to ya, but its not just done in 'Merica! I saw plenty of 2-bit hustlers trying to scam tourists and the masses in your country as well, mainly the whores and bike renter guys.

:houra


Here's the deal...........everyone runs around fucking others their whole lifetime......in the very end, WE ALL end up DEAD STINKING EVEN.

REALITY BOYS!
 

Sleepy

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Nobody and I mean nobody beats the NFL.

Why do you think the books let you bet a 100 dimes on these games:gui

Those guys and their 65% models are flat out lying.
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Nobody and I mean nobody beats the NFL.

Why do you think the books let you bet a 100 dimes on these games:gui

Those guys and their 65% models are flat out lying.


They show you stats that say they should be winning and these bets are huge winning propositions yet they can't bet enough to make the bookmakers worry 1 bit.

They have nothing to show for their "winning stat based NFL programs"

It is pretty funny
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Nobody and I mean nobody beats the NFL.

Why do you think the books let you bet a 100 dimes on these games:gui

Those guys and their 65% models are flat out lying.

Sleepy, our system is not running at 65%...

...it's running at almost 70% thru last week. We expect it to fall off these last two reg season weeks though.

...but you can believe whatever you want to. I could give a $hit.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Porn? You see, here in Holland we see it as a normal way of life...

...you f*cked up Amerikans have screwed up a beautiful thing.

I just booked a 2 week stay in Holland after reading this!
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

I just booked a 2 week stay in Holland after reading this!

yep, we have porn in glass boxes, that you can see on the street...and then if you like, you can even sample...for a small fee....and the police could give a f*ck.
 

Sleepy

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

...it's running at almost 70% thru last week. We expect it to fall off these last two reg season weeks though

:lolxmas ok, whatever

Who is the we? Someone holding your hand when you bet?
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

:lolxmas ok, whatever

Who is the we? Someone holding your hand when you bet?

Several in the group, using the latest methods, and frankly it's better if you don't f*cking believe me.

Matters not though, in 5-10 years, with so many of us now pounding the lines, there will be no value for puds like you to win anything. Enjoy your short, miserable betting life while some of it still exists.
 

pop dukes

EOG Member
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

two things I learned

Fezzik is a great fade

Holland isn't the father of anything
 

Sleepy

EOG Master
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

Several in the group, using the latest methods, and frankly it's better if you don't f*cking believe me.

Matters not though, in 5-10 years, with so many of us now pounding the lines, there will be no value for puds like you to win anything. Enjoy your short, miserable betting life while some of it still exists.

I never seen so many guys on the internet that win and not only win but win at unrealistic rates. Sure your beating the toughest sport at a 65% clipView attachment 7553
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

two things I learned

Fezzik is a great fade

Holland isn't the father of anything

Exact statement you'd expect from an ignorant tribalist American't...

...yep, we're a small country now, not world f*ckers like you...by the way, if you haven't noticed, your interventionist policies are getting pretty expensive, you like paying for all that shit?
 
Re: Fezzik responds to "haters" in LVA newsletter....

I never seen so many guys on the internet that win and not only win but win at unrealistic rates. Sure your beating the toughest sport at a 65% clipView attachment 7553

NFL is doing real well this year, it will go back to normal next year. Nobody does much over about 55-56% over all non-ML situations, but you ride the ponies when they show up.
 
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