Gruden out

mr merlin

EOG Master
I don't even blame Rail, yes he's a racist and a bigot, so he posts racist and bigoted shit, that's what you would expect from him, the blame falls on Kelly, he's the one who turns a blind eye to the garbage Rail posts, all Rail is doing is what comes natural to him, he is who he is, and obviously at this point in his sad life he'll never change, but Kelly allows him to shit all over the forum with his daily racist and bigoted remarks, he's the one to blame, not Rail. Kelly could have put an end to it a long time ago, but I guess he likes the controversy that the guy brings, or maybe he agrees with his racist and anti-Semitic remarks and that's why he allows it, I don't think that's the case, but I don't know him personally. Ed Ras started a slack chat and Rail was quick to join, after about two to three weeks of his usual bullshit Ed finally said enough and banned him, he sent a clear message from the start that his forum wasn't the place for Rail's garbage, sad that Kelly has never done the same
it sucks when you cant silence all dissent doesn't it?

That's the life of a liberal LOL.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Gruden will never work in the NFL again, not as a coach, not as a TV analyst, not as a pregame show host, he's done in the NFL. Maybe he can get a job at VSIN, or promoting some sportsbook, but he'll never have another job in the NFL again
Probably not, but he only came back for the money to begin with, he'll be able to make plenty of money elsewhere - if he wants to, How much money does a guy need?

Gruden is 58, i retired at 57 and had no desire to work anymore, I've never understood the mentality of sticking around for money you dont need and cant spend.
 

kane

EOG master
it sucks when you cant silence all dissent doesn't it?

That's the life of a liberal LOL.
Silence dissent? LMAO, if you think not wanting to read someone make racist, bigoted, anti-Semitic, and homophobic comments is silencing dissent, then you're a fucking moron
 

kane

EOG master
JK absolutely does not agree with Rail’s racist views but believes in free speech….Railbird takes advantage of him with his garbage rants and views….
You know Kelly, so if you say he doesn't agree with Rail's bigotry, then you're someone I trust, so I'll believe you. As far as Kelly believing in free speech, how many times has he posted "Free speech, but no hate speech"? All Rail does is post hate speech, so Kelly doesn't get off the hook with his free speech argument, like I said, he's the one to blame, not Rail
 

boston massacre

EOG Dedicated
I don't even blame Rail, yes he's a racist and a bigot, so he posts racist and bigoted shit, that's what you would expect from him, the blame falls on Kelly, he's the one who turns a blind eye to the garbage Rail posts, all Rail is doing is what comes natural to him, he is who he is, and obviously at this point in his sad life he'll never change, but Kelly allows him to shit all over the forum with his daily racist and bigoted remarks, he's the one to blame, not Rail. Kelly could have put an end to it a long time ago, but I guess he likes the controversy that the guy brings, or maybe he agrees with his racist and anti-Semitic remarks and that's why he allows it, I don't think that's the case, but I don't know him personally. Ed Ras started a slack chat and Rail was quick to join, after about two to three weeks of his usual bullshit Ed finally said enough and banned him, he sent a clear message from the start that his forum wasn't the place for Rail's garbage, sad that Kelly has never done the same


You Want a Forum, Where Everybody on Here is Smooching Everybody Else's Ass.

A Typical Liberal Flake.

You're a Biden Smoocher.

Biden Was a Good Friend of U.S. Senator Robert Byrd , Who Was a Recruiter For The KKK.

Biden Said a Eulogy at His Funeral.

Kane, You're Just Another Big Drooling Flake, Who is Easy To Expose.

Railbird Posts His Thoughts on Here, Just Like You Do.

Nobody on Here Cares if Somebody Like You, Approves or Disapproves, Somebody Else's Posts.

IGNORE is Available For Wimps Like You.

JK Runs a Good Forum.
 
I don't even blame Rail, yes he's a racist and a bigot, so he posts racist and bigoted shit, that's what you would expect from him, the blame falls on Kelly, he's the one who turns a blind eye to the garbage Rail posts, all Rail is doing is what comes natural to him, he is who he is, and obviously at this point in his sad life he'll never change, but Kelly allows him to shit all over the forum with his daily racist and bigoted remarks, he's the one to blame, not Rail. Kelly could have put an end to it a long time ago, but I guess he likes the controversy that the guy brings, or maybe he agrees with his racist and anti-Semitic remarks and that's why he allows it, I don't think that's the case, but I don't know him personally. Ed Ras started a slack chat and Rail was quick to join, after about two to three weeks of his usual bullshit Ed finally said enough and banned him, he sent a clear message from the start that his forum wasn't the place for Rail's garbage, sad that Kelly has never done the same


JK is pro freedom of speech.

If Railbird were muted then where does it stop; it would be easy to justify doing likewise with over 50% of posters here & on other forums such as TheRx, SBR, etc. Banning them would largely kill the sites.

OTOH several other forums i am a member at do not put up with such.
 
Gruden will never work in the NFL again, not as a coach, not as a TV analyst, not as a pregame show host, he's done in the NFL. Maybe he can get a job at VSIN, or promoting some sportsbook, but he'll never have another job in the NFL again

I don't see that as a "lock" or "guaranteed winner". We may never know if he'd be allowed to do such things, since he may not ever make the attempt to return, unless the NFL issues a statement re a lifetime ban. But, then, what would that say about other "black sheep" (e.g. Michael Vick) who were allowed to return after they did their time, took their punishment, repented & showed evidence of their repentance by their actions and deeds?

If Gruden was ever guilty of what is being claimed against him some 10 years ago, that doesn't make him guilty of being such things a decade later. People change.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
I support free speech.

I campaign against hate speech.

There's a distiction.

I like the hands-off approach when it comes to censorship.

Not a Wild, Wild West approach, however.

Child pornography would be a clear and obvious no-no.

In the end, I agree with the first part of Kane's argument: RAILBIRD is not the problem.
 

blueline

EOG Master
Raiders beat writer Tashan Reed says he forfeits the remainder of the contract....who knows

Gruden signed a 10-year, $100 million deal to come back to the Raiders in 2018. Upon his abrupt departure on Monday night, a settlement package with the Raiders had not been finalized, a person with knowledge of Gruden’s contract told USA TODAY Sports on Tuesday.

“It’s unresolved,” said the person, who requested anonymity because the matter is fluid.
 

ComptrBob

EOG Dedicated
Great line, KANE.

I'm the best and the worst.

Where have I heard that before?

If we take a historical perspective, I'd differ.

1) Several EOG moderators actively defrauded posters in various schemes (ballwonder, Tuckman).

2) Minority EOG owner and part-time mod "1" was a complete fiasco, laying down a page full of completely useless "general"rules. Then he takes off 3 weeks from posting or any sort of helpful moderation, followed by coming back and declaring what a success he was. Upon reading these latest pontifications, I post that he is a "stupid asshole" and of course he bans me.

3) EOG owner and mod Ken Weitzner, in a drunken stupor, put me on "post-review" for supporting JoeFlex's request for information about the recently hired EOG tout, Dave Cokin's, long term record. Gee, its so unfair to ask Dave's baseball record especially when I had previously tracked Dave's successful (58% ATS) 7 year CFB run on the Stardust Line.

No, I think JK is just among the best.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Thanks for the support, Bob.

It should be noted Bob is not always complimentary of my work.

He's a constructive critic.

And I always listen to his advice.
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
It's one thing to post an opinion and simultaneously to be as factual, subjective, and/or subjective as possible, just so long as you're careful to a consistent level when it comes to consensus. When those cross the line and get personal when it comes to race it'll religion, then JK will rightfully so throw the flag with a warning.
 
I support free speech.

I campaign against hate speech.

There's a distiction.

I like the hands-off approach when it comes to censorship.

Not a Wild, Wild West approach, however.

Child pornography would be a clear and obvious no-no.

In the end, I agree with the first part of Kane's argument: RAILBIRD is not the problem.
JK, I beg to differ on one thing. Its not censorship to cut out the crap Rail posts. Almost every other forum of all types I visit has a simple policy of stating you stay on subject. If Rail wants to post picks or comment about legitimate topics on teams then you let that flow. But when he adds the nonsense to it of what religion the ref was or how a team can't win because of the coaches skin color, you just go in and cut it right out. He can complain about it, but do it a few times and leave the impression you will do it every time and he'll either cut it out or go spew it on another site.
 

boston massacre

EOG Dedicated
JK, I beg to differ on one thing. Its not censorship to cut out the crap Rail posts. Almost every other forum of all types I visit has a simple policy of stating you stay on subject. If Rail wants to post picks or comment about legitimate topics on teams then you let that flow. But when he adds the nonsense to it of what religion the ref was or how a team can't win because of the coaches skin color, you just go in and cut it right out. He can complain about it, but do it a few times and leave the impression you will do it every time and he'll either cut it out or go spew it on another site.

Railbird is Just Pushing Back on WEAK People Like You.

You Cry To MAMA on Everything.

You Want To Say Anything You Want About Trump, Because You Got a Little Ear Infection From One of His Tweets.

Didn't See You Complain About Biden When He Called a Guy a Junkie.

Biden Said a Black Guy Wasn't Black, Because The Guy Was Going To Vote For Trump.

No Bad Mouthing From You, About Biden.

I'll Just Keep Exposing Frauds Like You.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
good point, i like jk's phrase "tell me something i dont know" this never happens with kane, wildbill, obese artie, etc. none of my posts are racist or hatefull, liberals have a weird definition of racsim. i like what danesh d souza says, the libs are the biggest racists of all.

You are out of your mind…keep telling yourself that…

Come out of your Mom’s basement and face reality….
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
JK, I beg to differ on one thing. Its not censorship to cut out the crap Rail posts. Almost every other forum of all types I visit has a simple policy of stating you stay on subject. If Rail wants to post picks or comment about legitimate topics on teams then you let that flow. But when he adds the nonsense to it of what religion the ref was or how a team can't win because of the coaches skin color, you just go in and cut it right out. He can complain about it, but do it a few times and leave the impression you will do it every time and he'll either cut it out or go spew it on another site.


Got it, WILDBILL.

BILL recently taught me a lesson.

Here's a good angle I learned from WILDBILL: Instead of paying top dollar to see a big-time stadium in an NFL city, go to an MLS game and pay $20 or $30 to see the stadium.

BILL used that trick this past summer to get a peek at Soldier Field in Chicago.

Instead of paying for a Bears ticket this week which costs $200-plus, you could buy tickets to a Chicago Fire FC game versus Real Salt Lake on October 23 for peanuts.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
One of the many downsides of COVID-19: No more ticket scalpers.

I used to love buying tickets to sporting events for $10 or $20 outside the stadium.

Now, you have all the associated fees and taxes with Ticketmaster or other ticket agents that spike the prices significantly.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
good point, i like jk's phrase "tell me something i dont know" this never happens with kane, wildbill, obese artie, etc. none of my posts are racist or hatefull, liberals have a weird definition of racsim. i like what danesh d souza says, the libs are the biggest racists of all.

Does your avatar get mad when you call some athletes “faggots”….
 
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