Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

So not even a couple months after Palafox completely falls off the map for undisclosed reasons and "rumors" (nobody asks, nobody cares, just like everything else with this mafioso regime!), the NEW Director of Health slides into position, and out pops this:



Awwww...you remember, don't you? The press conference where our messiah took no questions? You remember, don't you? One day prior to Mr. All American John Wayne announcing he had killed bin Laden? Oh, and did I mention the Obamas attended church this past weekend? (Group hug!)

Yes, we have witnesses, yes we have the evidence that the birth certificate was planted during a specific period -- and yes, this IS the "crime of the century." :lock:

Fools! ullhair

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

So not even a couple months after Palafox completely falls off the map for undisclosed reasons and "rumors" (nobody asks, nobody cares, just like everything else with this mafioso regime!), the NEW Director of Health slides into position, and out pops this:



Awwww...you remember, don't you? The press conference where our messiah took no questions? You remember, don't you? One day prior to Mr. All American John Wayne announcing he had killed bin Laden? Oh, and did I mention the Obamas attended church this past weekend? (Group hug!)

Yes, we have witnesses, yes we have the evidence that the birth certificate was planted during a specific period -- and yes, this IS the "crime of the century." :lock:

Fools! ullhair

And you idiots want everyone to think Palafox would not have done this.:LMAO:LMAO
I know, I know.....Fuddy and the state of Hawaii are in on it!!:LMAO
The mystery for birfers is why they could not get Palafox in on it too right?:LMAO
Who planted the birth notice in the paper??:LMAO
Who planted it back in 2005 when the law firm he worked for needed it?Let me guess they are in on it too?:LMAOEveryone is in on it except for those brilliant birfers who keep losing court cases so everyone should join up with the losers and send some money huh?Sorry not that stupid but for those that are.....keep sending money and trying to get shit to fit your agenda like usual.You are doing so well.:houra

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Yes, we have witnesses, yes we have the evidence that the birth certificate was planted during a specific period --

:LMAO:LMAO:LMAOI cannot wait to see this!!Sure is a good thing they never used this in the previous 96 cases right??:LMAO:LMAOBerg sure has to be pissed since he ''missed'' this!!:LMAO
Hey are they the same supervisors that ''told'' Tim Adams that their was no birth certificate?:LMAO
Golly why didn't they use this in all those other 96 cases huh?:shoot:

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Tim Adams already signed an affidavit that there was never any birth certificate on file at the DOH, but your coffee mug clowns were too busy smearing him to think that maybe, just maybe, he was telling the truth.

Adams isn't the only mole inside the DOH ready to come forward at the appropriate time confirming the obvious. Are they all liars and white supremacists smearing the president because he's black? :lol

Why do you suppose Sheriff Joe Arpaio is insisting not only on the original birth certificate but the transaction logs AND entire microfilm on which Obama's birth certificate is filmed?

Because no such records exist at the HI DOH, that's why.

"Our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives written down"
-- Neil Abercrombie

Right, because there was no birth certificate on microfilm at the time of this statement, only the adoption "birth records" filed by his grandparents AFTER the baby was brought into the country, something I have insisted from the very beginning.

We don't know the exact reasons why Palafox was forced to resign (mysterious undisclosed "rumors"), but we DO know the birth certificate was planted in the DOH records AFTER the new Health Director was appointed. It didn't exist prior to that point. At some point presumably Palafox will be called to testify.

Rather than distribute physical copies of the birth certificate at the Kenyan's press conference, they posted a forged PDF on the White House website printed it out and released "photocopies to the lapdog press. Only one reporter claims to have seen the original copy and that she "felt a raised seal" but there is no indication that she verified whether it matches the official seal posted on the HI DOH website. Visually, it does not match.

Recall that in 2008 no reporters were allowed to examine the COLB either.

All of these records that I have spoken of (birth certificate, computer transaction logs, original microfilm at the DOH) and their witnesses need to be investigated and cross examined under oath.

They are playing a huge game of chicken with the birthers hoping nobody is gutsy enough to expose the emperor as wearing pink underwear.

The facts is, the American people deserve to know about "the crime of the century".

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Tim Adams already signed an affidavit that there was never any birth certificate on file at the DOH, but your coffee mug clowns were too busy smearing him to think that maybe, just maybe, he was telling the truth. Uh huh.And the supervisors never was named and never signed one so what does that tell you?Why did he say WND is the ones that did all this and he just signed it?>Cannot wait to see him on the stand!!:LMAO

Adams isn't the only mole inside the DOH ready to come forward at the appropriate time confirming the obvious. Are they all liars and white supremacists smearing the president because he's black? :lol


:LMAOSure Joe!!Just like the moles Trump had over there with his investigators too right?How did all that turn out?Let me expose your dumb ass...if you are losing case after case then you better have some facts and witnesses to back your claims.Talking shit and saying you have that is just another sign of stupidity and showing how dumb you are.
Why do you suppose Sheriff Joe Arpaio is insisting not only on the original birth certificate but the transaction logs AND entire microfilm on which Obama's birth certificate is filmed?
Because like all your idiotic claims he knows he cannot get them by law!!Then WND and all the birfers can scream ''see it is fraud since he cannot get them''That is all you have is smears and unattainable shit that you think proves something.Just like with the adoption papers that never existed because he was not adopted.You idiots still keep asking for those even though they do not exist and then cry ''fraud'' he is hiding something,g blah,blah,blah

Because no such records exist at the HI DOH, that's why.
They do exist or you are saying the state of Hawaii is lying.You have no access to them and they are unattainable to you so like a hundred times before you scream ''they do not exist because we cannot get them by law''blah,blah,blah.

"Our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives written down"
-- Neil Abercrombie

Right, because there was no birth certificate on microfilm at the time of this statement, only the adoption "birth records" filed by his grandparents AFTER the baby was brought into the country, something I have insisted from the very beginning.

Of course.The state of Hawaii is lying about this for what reason again?
Adoption papers.:LMAOShow them and prove the exist.Quit talking stupid shit and start proving this shit or STFU.Your idiotic smears with no truth is getting old.

We don't know the exact reasons why Palafox was forced to resign (mysterious undisclosed "rumors"), but we DO know the birth certificate was planted in the DOH records AFTER the new Health Director was appointed. It didn't exist prior to that point. At some point presumably Palafox will be called to testify.
:LMAO:LMAOUh huh and what about the birth certificate he used to get hired by the law firm in 2005??You see how logic get's you again with facts involved.Let me guess it was fake right?Another just wait line of shit...yeah Palafox is the whole key to your new line of shit.They forced him to resign because he would not go along.:LMAO

Rather than distribute physical copies of the birth certificate at the Kenyan's press conference, they posted a forged PDF on the White House website printed it out and released "photocopies to the lapdog press. Only one reporter claims to have seen the original copy and that she "felt a raised seal" but there is no indication that she verified whether it matches the official seal posted on the HI DOH website. Visually, it does not match.
More stupid bullshit.You are just repeating the same old debunked stupid shit

Recall that in 2008 no reporters were allowed to examine the COLB either.
:LMAOAnd they all asked to see it too right?

All of these records that I have spoken of (birth certificate, computer transaction logs, original microfilm at the DOH) and their witnesses need to be investigated and cross examined under oath.
Only in a birfer mind does this make sense or have any meaning.More idiotic bullshit.

They are playing a huge game of chicken with the birthers hoping nobody is gutsy enough to expose the emperor as wearing pink underwear. Nope!!They have done everything required and then some , even more then any other president in history but like the stupid fucks you are you keep going moving the goalposts and making shit up that you cannot prove and you have zero facts to back your stupid shit.Just questions that you know cannot be answered to fit your agenda

The facts is, the American people deserve to know about "the crime of the century".

They already do.It is the small percentage of dipshits that keep moving the goalposts every week.I do love how you say you got ''moles''over in the DOH..:LMAOThat is the funniest shit you nuts have dreamed up in a long time.I would ask you to prove your idiotic shit but I know....you can't so it is ''just you wait and see''.I know ,I know.Typical birfer shit.

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Tell us more about this adoption?The state department is in on it too.:LMAOThe birfer stupidity knows no bounds.
[h=1]Hollister v. Indonesian Citizenship Law[/h]by Dr. Conspiracy on <abbr class="date time published" title="2009-02-09T23:39:13-0500" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); cursor: help; ">FEBRUARY 9, 2009</abbr> in CITIZENSHIP, DEBUNKING, EVIDENCE, LAWSUITS, PHILIP BERG

Philip Berg
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Some lawsuits filed with the intent of proving Barack Obama ineligible to be president make arguments that Barack Obama’s 4 years in Indonesia somehow erased his American citizenship.
In Philip Berg’s case, Hollister v Soetoro, we see some Indonesian laws cited. These are not as easy to find as a corresponding US law would be, but your diligent Obama Conspiracy Theorist has come up with them.
A number of claims are made in the suit for which no documentation is offered, for example the statement “All Indonesian students were required to carry government Identity cards.” Without a source, it’s not possible to verify the statement. We can’t deal with those here.
Here’s the first Indonesian law reference from Hollister:

27 Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s, and any time a child was registered for a public school, their name and citizenship status was verified through the Indonesian Government. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Chapter 13, Law No. 62 of 1958 (all citizens of Indonesia have a right to education). The school record, attached hereto as Exhibit “B”, indicates that Soetoro’s name is “Barry Soetoro;” his nationality is “Indonesia;” and his religion as “Islam”. There was no way for Soetoro to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen, as Indonesia was under tight rule and was a Police State. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Law No. 62 of 1958. These facts indicate that Soetoro is an Indonesian citizen, and therefore he is not eligible to be President of the United States.
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Looking at the paragraph we see these Indonesian law claims:

1. Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s
2. any time a child was registered for a public school, their name and citizenship status was verified through the Indonesian Government
3. There was no way for Soetoro to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen

No argument is provided for the truth of these claims save the Indonesian Constitution Chapter 13 and Indonesian Law No. 62 cited. Law No. 62 has nothing to do with education or identity cards, so we we’ll save that law for later. The Constitution Chapter 13 does talk about education. It says:

Chapter XIII. Education
Article 31
1. Every citizen has the right to education.
2. The government shall establish and conduct a national educational system which shall be regulated by law.
Article 32
The government shall advance the national culture.
Indonesian Constitution of 1945
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Frankly I am at a loss as to how “There was no way for Soetoro to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen” can be inferred from this article of the Indonesian Constitution. Further there is nothing about verifying identity.
Having struck out finding any valid application of the cited Indonesian laws to Berg’s claims, we move on to the next section.

28. Under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son, in this case Soetoro, an Indonesian State citizen. Constitution of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958 concerning Immigration Affairs and Indonesian Civil Code (Kitab Undang-undang Hukum Perdata) (KUHPer) (Burgerlijk Wetboek voor Indonesie).
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Better luck this time because Law No. 62 does deal with citizenship. The entire law 62 is too long to paste here, but a copy in English is on the UNHCR web site for your review.
The facts are that Barack Obama’s mother married an Indonesian national (Lolo Soetoro) and that they all moved to Indonesia when Barack Obama was 6 years old.
First, Berg’s argument is predicated upon “a male acknowledges a child as his son” which doesn’t seem to apply. It was never said the Lolo Soetoro fathered Barack Obama. This law if it exists (it is not part of Law No. 62) it would reasonably be analogous to an “affidavit of paternity” such as we have the the United States. I don’t see this language as applicable to an adoption (if indeed there ever was one). Law No. 62 lists who is an Indonesian Citizen. Most are not relevant. This one is of interest:

(1)A foreign child of less than 5 years age who is adopted by a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if such an adoption is declared legal by the Pengadilan Negeri [state court] at the residence of the person adopting the child.
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However, Obama was over 5 years old when he went to Indonesia so it does not apply. Law No. 62 says nothing about a child 5 years or older acquiring citizenship.
The rather complicated Article 3 is of interest. It says that a child cannot acquire Indonesian citizenship if it would create dual citizenship unless the child is able to renounce said citizenship (which an American child is unable to do).

(1)A child outside a marriage of a mother who is a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia or a child out of a legal marriage, but who has in a case of divorce been assigned to the care of its mother, a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia, who follows the nationality of the father, a foreigner, may present a petition to the Minister of Justice in order to acquire the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if, after, having acquired the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, it possesses no other nationality or states at the same time to have released another nationality according to the procedure stipulated by the legal provisions of the country of originand/or according to the procedure stipulated by the agreement on the settlement of the bi-nationality between the Republic of Indonesia and the country in question.
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Of course there is no “legal provision” of the United States whereby a minor could release his US Citizenship. This is similar to 5h which also restricts citizenship to those for which it would create dual citizenship.

h.have no nationality, or have lost his nationality if the petitioner acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia or states at the time to have released another nationality according to the legal provisions of the country of origin or according to the legal provisions of the Agreement on the settlement of the bi-nationality between the Republic of Indonesia and the country concerned.
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Article 7 deals with the options for Indonesian citizenship for Obama’s mother (probably not relevant but included for reference).

Article 7.
(1)A foreign woman married to a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia, acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if and when she makes a statement as to that effect within 1 year after contracting said marriage, except in case when she acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia she possesses still another nationality, in which case the statement may not be made.
(2)With the exception as mentioned in para 1 the foreign woman who marries a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia also acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia one year after the marriage has been contracted, if within that one year her husband does not make a statement as to release his citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia.
Said statement may only be made and only results in the loss of the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia if by such a loss the husband does not become stateless.
(3)If one of the statements mentioned in para 1 and 2 have been made, the alternative statement may not be made.
(4)The statements mentioned above shall be made to the Pengadilan Negeri or the Representation of the Republic of Indonesia at the residence of the person making such a statement.
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Again, the principle of no dual citizenship prevents the acquisition of Indonesian citizenship:

Article 9.
(1)The citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia acquired by a husband is automatically valid for his wife, except if, after the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia has been acquired, the wife possesses still another nationality.
(2)The loss of the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia by a husband affects automatically his wife, except if the wife will become stateless.
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Next item from the lawsuit:

29. Furthermore, under the Indonesian adoption law, once an Indonesian citizen adopts a child, the adoption severs the child’s relationship to the birth parents, and the adopted child is given the same status as a natural child and the child takes the name of his step-father, in this case, Soetoro. See Indonesian Constitution, Article 2.
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Following is Article 2 of the Indonesian Constitution:

Article 2
1. The Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat shall consist of the members of the Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat augmented by the delegates from the regional territories and groups as provided for by statutory regulations.
2. The Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat shall meet at least once in every five years in the capital of the state.
3. All decisions of the Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat shall be taken by a majority vote.
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Doesn’t make any sense to me either. I’m beginning to think Berg is doesn’t know the difference between the Indonesian Constitution and Law No. 62 from 1958. Article 2 of Law No. 62 is quoted above and only applies to children under 5 years of age.
Next from Hollister:

30. The Indonesian citizenship law was designed to prevent apatride (stateless) or bipatride (dual) citizenship. Indonesian regulations recognized neither apatride nor bipatride (stateless or dual) citizenship. Since Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship; neither did the United States (since the United States only permitted dual citizenship when ‘both’ countries agree); and since Soetoro was a “natural” citizen of Indonesia, the United States would not step in or interfere with the laws of Indonesia. Hague Convention of 1930.
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In this Berg starts correctly: Indonesian law is designed to prevent dual citizenship; however, it does so with the full acknowledgment of the laws of other nations. What Berg fails to take into consideration is the provisions of Indonesian law already in place (cited preceding) that deal with dual citizenship, and prohibiting acquisition of Indonesian citizenship in that case when dual citizenship would otherwise be created. Therefore, US Law which does not allow a minor to renounce their citizenship, in no way interferes with Indonesian law, and there’s no reason to invoke the Hague Convention.
The way the Hague Convention is interpreted by Berg seems to be “any time US law conflicts with that of another country, we lose” and that’s just plain silly.

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

[h=1]Department of State denies birther allegations[/h]by Dr. Conspiracy on <abbr class="date time published" title="2009-04-23T19:40:39-0500" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); cursor: help; ">APRIL 23, 2009</abbr> in BIRTH CERTIFICATE, CITIZENSHIP, DEBUNKING, FOIA, LAWSUITS

Strunk v. State
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In a surprise move, the United States Departments of State and Homeland Security in an answer to FOIA lawsuit Strunk v. U. S. Department of State denied essentially all of the birther allegations against President Obama’s eligibility! Here are excerpts from the document filed in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia today:

To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or is otherwise ineligible to serve as President of the United States, that allegation is denied.
To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama may be an illegal alien or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied.
To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama’s birth certificate has not been released to the public, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied.
Specifically, Defendants deny that President Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere outside the state of Hawaii.
To the extent this paragraph alleges that Lolo Soetoro is or ever was President Obama’s father by birth or adoption, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is or ever was a practicing Muslim, that allegation is denied.
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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Department of State denies birther allegations

by Dr. Conspiracy on <abbr class="date time published" title="2009-04-23T19:40:39-0500" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); cursor: help; ">APRIL 23, 2009</abbr> in BIRTH CERTIFICATE, CITIZENSHIP, DEBUNKING, FOIA, LAWSUITS

Strunk v. State
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In a surprise move, the United States Departments of State and Homeland Security in an answer to FOIA lawsuit Strunk v. U. S. Department of State denied essentially all of the birther allegations against President Obama’s eligibility! Here are excerpts from the document filed in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia today:

To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or is otherwise ineligible to serve as President of the United States, that allegation is denied.
To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama may be an illegal alien or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied.
To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama’s birth certificate has not been released to the public, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied.
Specifically, Defendants deny that President Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere outside the state of Hawaii.
To the extent this paragraph alleges that Lolo Soetoro is or ever was President Obama’s father by birth or adoption, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is or ever was a practicing Muslim, that allegation is denied.
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Run and hide Joe.Everyone is in on it except for you.:LMAO:LMAO

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

I do love how you say you got ''moles''over in the DOH. That is the funniest shit you nuts have dreamed up in a long time.I would ask you to prove your idiotic shit but I know....you can't so it is ''just you wait and see''

Tim Adams is one already on record, which you nuts dismiss. There are others, and you can take that to the bank!

Admit it, all you got is lies and smears because you can't defend the crime of century.

op:

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

We don't know the exact reasons why Palafox was forced to resign (mysterious undisclosed "rumors"), but we DO know the birth certificate was planted in the DOH records AFTER the new Health Director was appointed. It didn't exist prior to that point. At some point presumably Palafox will be called to testify.
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Hey dummy....Fukino say's you are stupid since she already said it was there before Palafox was even in there for that one month.:shooton't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself though.Please continue with the lies.
Remember this??Nope evidently not.
October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes ?338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.

:LMAO

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

"Dr Conspiracy" advises his emperor to commit suicide! :doh1

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/01/burden-of-proof-in-georgia/

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. ::LMAO::

So far Obama’s attorney hasn’t shown that he intends to mount much of a defense. He didn’t list any exhibits in his pre-trial order and only one witness, one that can’t speak to the facts of Obama’s birth. So what is zero plus zero? It looks like such an answer would be a lose for Obama because in a previous decision in O’BRIEN v. GROSS, Judge Malihi wrote:

Under Haynes v. Wells, 273 Ga. 106, 538 S.E.2d 430 (2000), the burden of proof is entirely upon Respondent to establish affirmatively his eligibility for office.

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My advice to Mr. Jablonski is to bring a birth certificate with him and maybe some documents to show Obama’s residence for the past 14 years. That way Obama looks just everybody else who sometimes has to show documentation.

Psst Doc, you haven't heard their defense because there isn't one. Their only "defense" is to keep playing dodge ball with truth seekers who are on to the fraud, filing to dismiss case after case because their emperor has no clothes.

Go ahead, submit the forged birth certificate in a court of the law, and it will be the beginning of the end of the most corrupt, criminal regime in US history.

See, this is what happens when stupid underwear bloggers are in over their heads, assume the Kenyan isn't a crook, and have no idea what they are dealing with! :shoot:

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Tim Adams is one already on record, which you nuts dismiss. There are others, and you can take that to the bank!

Admit it, all you got is lies and smears because you can't defend the crime of century.

op:

But why hasn't he been called to testify then??:LMAOIf this is legit then why hasn't this ''proof'':LMAObeen used yet???Why hasn't his supervisor who told him this been identified and why isn't he signing an affidavit?/:LMAOThought so but keep dreaming along with the lying and smearing with no proof or facts to back your stupid shit.
What lies are you talking about?Everything has been proved to the sane Americans.

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

"Dr Conspiracy" advises his emperor to commit suicide! :doh1



Psst Doc, you haven't heard their defense because there isn't one. Their only "defense" is to keep playing dodge ball with truth seekers who are on to the fraud, filing to dismiss case after case because their emperor has no clothes.

Go ahead, submit the birth certificate in a court of the law, and it will be the beginning to the end of the most corrupt, criminal regime in US history.

See, this is what happens when stupid underwear bloggers are in over their heads, assume the Kenyan isn't a crook, and have no idea what they are dealing with! :shoot:

Satire!!:LMAOWhen the Judges and lawyers for Barry get done with Orly it will be the laughing stock of the century.I would offer to place some money on this case but since you are a chicken shit coward I won't waste my time.I have nothing to be afraid of do you?
BTW it is good to see you going to Doc's site.Maybe that will smarten you up a bit but I won't hold my breath.

 

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Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Hey dummy....Fukino say's you are stupid since she already said it was there before Palafox was even in there for that one month.:shooton't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself though.Please continue with the lies.
Remember this??Nope evidently not.
October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes ?338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.

:LMAO

Another debunked birfer lie.Yeah Joe this only started when Palafox was there for a month.:shoot:

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Satire!!:LMAOWhen the Judges and lawyers for Barry get done with Orly it will be the laughing stock of the century.I would offer to place some money on this case but since you are a chicken shit coward I won't waste my time.I have nothing to be afraid of do you?
BTW it is good to see you going to Doc's site.Maybe that will smarten you up a bit but I won't hold my breath.

You might be surprised to hear that I don't believe THIS particular GA case will be the one that brings him down, especially with Orly at the wheel. Anything is possible, but I doubt it.

FYI, Douglas Vogt (the guy who gave your underwear bloggers the finger) is one of the witnesses at this trial. :btj:

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Hey dummy....Fukino say's you are stupid since she already said it was there before Palafox was even in there for that one month.:shooton't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself though.Please continue with the lies.
Remember this??Nope evidently not.
October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes ?338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

We don't know the exact reasons why Palafox was forced to resign (mysterious undisclosed "rumors"), but we DO know the birth certificate was planted in the DOH records AFTER the new Health Director was appointed. It didn't exist prior to that point. At some point presumably Palafox will be called to testify.


:LMAO

Defend your LIE!!!Thought so ....you can't.Another birfer LIE debunked!!

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

BTW it is good to see you going to Doc's site.Maybe that will smarten you up a bit but I won't hold my breath.

"My advice to Mr. Jablonski is to bring a birth certificate with him and maybe some documents to show Obama’s residence for the past 14 years. That way Obama looks just everybody else who sometimes has to show documentation."

Dr. Conspiri-Kook definitely proved his astounding ignorance with that statement! :shoot:

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Defend your LIE!!!Thought so ....you can't.Another birfer LIE debunked!!

What lie?

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

FYI, Douglas Vogt (the guy who gave your underwear bloggers the finger) is one of the witnesses at this trial. :btj:

And what are his credentials that make him an expert again??:LMAO
I cannot wait to watch this !!Hell I have 2 weeks of vacation left to use by March 1 st so I just might go there and watch this in person.This is going to be great!!

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

What lie?

Remember when you said this!!

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

We don't know the exact reasons why Palafox was forced to resign (mysterious undisclosed "rumors"), but we DO know the birth certificate was planted in the DOH records AFTER the new Health Director was appointed. It didn't exist prior to that point. At some point presumably Palafox will be called to testify.

Fukino was already on record with this statement proving that it was already there.Another birfer lie from you debunked.

October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes ?338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.


When was Palafox there for that month??:LMAO:LMAO
It is so easy catching you in your lies and bullshit it is not even funny anymore.FRAUD!!

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

And what are his credentials that make him an expert again?

What I'd like to know is, who are crazy witnesses Obama's lawyers will be calling to the stand to defend this fraud?

op:

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Remember when you said this!!
Fukino was already on record with this statement proving that it was already there.Another birfer lie from you debunked.

What was "already there"? His "vital birth records"? Tell us something we don't know, genius.

I was the one who posted the images of Fukino's two written statements 10 pages ago. You can go back and read my commentary relating to them.

Do you have a specific question? Or is this another one of your blind lame-ass attempts to smear the birthers because you can't defend the indefensible? :handjob:

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

What was "already there"? His "vital birth records"? Tell us something we don't know, genius.

I was the one who posted the images of Fukino's two written statements 10 pages ago. You can go back and read my commentary relating to them.

Do you have a specific question? Or is this another one of your blind lame-ass attempts to smear the birthers because you can't defend the indefensible? :handjob:

When caught in yet another lie this is all you have??:LMAO
You are the one that said Palafox resigned and that is when they ''put'' the birth certificate in there and that it never existed before that.I proved that Fukino made a public statement saying it was there 3 years earlier.Busted again you lying fraud!!

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

What I'd like to know is, who are crazy witnesses Obama's lawyers will be calling to the stand to defend this fraud?

op:

You keep showing you do not know shit!!

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

When caught in yet another lie this is all you have??:LMAO
You are the one that said Palafox resigned and that is when they ''put'' the birth certificate in there and that it never existed before that.I proved that Fukino made a public statement saying it was there 3 years earlier.Busted again you lying fraud!!

So Fukino admitting she peeked at a document which she is legally forbidden from doing is your evidence that I'm a "lying fraud"? ::LMAO::

What's wrong with this picture, tank?

Idiot.

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

So Fukino admitting she peeked at a document which she is legally forbidden from doing is your evidence that I'm a "lying fraud"? ::LMAO::

What's wrong with this picture, tank?

Idiot.

What's wrong with this picture??To be frank you are a stupid fuck.Plain and simple.
Read the statement again and see if you can figure out why you look like such a dumb ass after asking this stupid question.Yeah talk about an idiot!!
October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes ?338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

So Fukino admitting she peeked at a document which she is legally forbidden from doing is your evidence that I'm a "lying fraud"? ::LMAO::

What's wrong with this picture, tank?

Idiot.

I honestly do not know if you are just so damn stupid or if you are a lying fraud.Sometimes it is hard to tell.

Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority
Quit wasting my time with your stupidity.Idiot!

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Fukino did not say original HAWAIIAN birth certificate, and never mentions the origin of the Kenyan's birthplace.

We already discussed this -- under Hawaii law, ANYONE (including NON-AMERICANS) could apply for a Hawaii birth certificate provided they could prove the parents/legal guardians were residents of the state for at least one year, which is exactly what Barry's grandparents did. They went to the HI DOH and registered the baby which automatically triggered the birth announcements in the newspapers. Ooooo...big conspiracy!

None of these facts (including Fukino's statements) "prove" anything, certainly not the place of the Kenyan's birth.

I have always said there is a birth certificate on file in Hawaii, just not one that lists Hawaii as his birthplace.

Go jack off viewing your loser underwear blog, while the birthers drag Barry's lawyers into court DEMANDING VALID DOCUMENTATION!

op:

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

I honestly do not know if you are just so damn stupid or if you are a lying fraud.Sometimes it is hard to tell.

Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority
Quit wasting my time with your stupidity.Idiot!

Don't want to admit to your stupidity?Good move idiot.We will just ignore this and act like it never happened.

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

We already discussed this -- under Hawaii law, ANYONE (including NON-AMERICANS) could apply for a Hawaii birth certificate provided they could prove the parents/legal guardians were residents of the state for at least one year, which is exactly what Barry's grandparents did. They went to the HI DOH and registered the baby which automatically triggered the birth announcements in the newspapers. Ooooo...big conspiracy!

Ho hum another LIE!!!!
Hawaiian Law ?338-17.8 says:

Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child… [L 1982, c 182, ?1]
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The law cited preceding did not exist until its passage in 1982 (the “L 1982″) , 21 years after Barack Obama’s birth registration on August 8, 1961.

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Ignore the stubborn facts at your own peril.

The birthers are heading to court and this GA case is merely the opening act.

CRIME OF THE CENTURY = STONE COLD :lock:

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Ho hum another LIE!!!!

:whatever:

Do your own homework and quit C&P garbage from your idiot underwear blogs. 2938u4ji23

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

If you fill out the form requesting a “Certified Copy of Birth Record” at the Hawaii Department of Health web site, this is what you get.

Court notice


:LMAO:LMAOYep the state is in on it too.Gee I wonder if this will matter in Georgia???:LMAO
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[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

:whatever:

Do your own homework and quit C&P garbage from these idiot underwear blogs. 2938u4ji23

Dummy that is from the state of Hawaii.Click on this and see where it takes you?
Hawaiian Law ?338-17.8 says:

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

:whatever:

Do your own homework and quit C&P garbage from your idiot underwear blogs. 2938u4ji23

You mean the ones that make you look stupid on a daily basis and expose your lies and you cannot debunk anything they say??Gee I wish I could be dumb enough to keep believing fraud sites like OBRYR and WND that beg for donations and are WRONG on every single lie and smear they throw out there.Who to trust and believe???/So tough but I will stick with the ones that present FACTS and PROVE their claims instead of believing fraud sites that are 0-96 in court cases and present ZERO FACTS.

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Dummy that is from the state of Hawaii.Click on this and see where it takes you?
Hawaiian Law ?338-17.8 says:

Which relates to current law. Duh, duh, duh, duh! Which means what exactly?

Another strawman from Underwear Blogger Central! :handjob:

So what are these Obot turds implying? That Hawaii law back then didn't permit what I posted?

PROVE MY STATEMENT WRONG! OR STFU!

Another example why DEBATING YOU RETARDS with your underwear blogger strawman BULLSHIT is a COMPLETE WASTE OF EVERYONE'S TIME!

 

[Joe Contrarian]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Duhhh....debunked!!!....duhhh....debunked!!....lies....duhhh....debunked...duhhhh....lies!!!...duhhhhh....smears!!....duhhhh....debunked...newspaper ads....duhhhh...lies....duhhhhhhhh....Fukino said....duhhhhhhh...lies...factcheck...duhhhhhh....coffee mugs....duhhhhhh...Dr Conspiracy said...duhhhhhh...!!!

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Which relates to current law. Duh, duh, duh, duh! Which means what exactly?

Another strawman from Underwear Blogger Central! :handjob:

So what are these Obot turds implying? That Hawaii law back then didn't permit what I posted?

PROVE MY STATEMENT WRONG! OR STFU!

Another example why DEBATING YOU RETARDS with your underwear blogger strawman BULLSHIT is a COMPLETE WASTE OF EVERYONE'S TIME!

Here is the law dummy.Read it closely and see if you notice your stupidity on this one too okay?
Remember now that Obama was 4 DAYS OLD when his birth certificate was produced. Humor us and see if you can finally figure out your stupidity now and why you are looking so damn dumb.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/hawnbirth.html

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Another example why DEBATING YOU RETARDS with your underwear blogger strawman BULLSHIT is a COMPLETE WASTE OF EVERYONE'S TIME!

DEBATING??????That is when you present FACTS and counter with your FACTS.YOU HAVE NOT PRESENTED ONE SINGLE FACT.Not one.I have debunked and exposed ALL your LIES and just like tonight I have EXPOSED your stupid LIES yet again.All you have is OPINIONS and you cannot back that stupid shit with any FACTS!!Do you see why you are a laughing stock FRAUD??

 

[tank]

Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Duhhh....debunked!!!....duhhh....debunked!!....lies....duhhh....debunked...duhhhh....lies!!!...duhhhhh....smears!!....duhhhh....debunked...newspaper ads....duhhhh...lies....duhhhhhhhh....Fukino said....duhhhhhhh...lies...factcheck...duhhhhhh....coffee mugs....duhhhhhh...Dr Conspiracy said...duhhhhhh...!!!

Ah a manic Monday!!I love it!!I would be mad too if someone kept exposing all my LIES too.
Hang in there kid!!You could get one over on me sometime but seriously your lies are like so 2009 ish.